Flightline Reactions

Alright, welcome to another edition of the horse racing

action. My candle here with blue or

boldly. Have you ever actually listen to

that song? The entire way through whatever

I just realized today that I have not I've never left that

song you know all the way through when we're joined today

by the illustrious, John Sherpa is a good Edge different.

What you think of me John How are you?

You got a special guest in the in the room with you sounds like

ripples in the room is always good.

All right. You listen is this, we always

have animals all look at that. You greatly like you put him in

a person came around Orlando, that's what I want.

No, all right. A good-looking.

He's a good-looking father that dog has had more Stakes

Baltimore than I have. Good to have you on the show,

John, we're going to talk about several things, and I know you

were at flight lines, when in the Pacific classic we

definitely get there, but I think we got to start though,

with Queen, Elizabeth passing away.

That news just coming down, just just a couple of hours ago,

means pretty fresh. I most people who would listen

to this show, I think would understand that Queen Elizabeth

is a huge supporter of horse racing as an owner a breeder she

actually there's five classic races in the United Kingdom.

She's 14 of them. All of them except the Epsom

Derby. She's been at the Kentucky Derby

three times and it's just a it's a it's a big loss for for the

sport. John do you have any Queen

Elizabeth stories because I think you would probably would

more likely have something that we would actually I've never met

the queen never seen the queen but you know her support of

thoroughbred racing in the UK has been tremendous.

I think this past year was the first time You know quite a

while. She hasn't gone to roll a skit

and you know she's had some horses from the US that have one

I'm going you know I don't know who actually owns them.

I mean she's listed as the owner and I think she will, you know,

I don't know whether King Charles, this is the first time

I've ever said that will controls the third, by the way,

controls the third. Yes.

And who can forget the King? Charles the second?

But I, you know, I think he'll just to honor his mother will

sort of keep the stable around, you know, who will actually run.

I mean, she never ran it but she actually showed up.

I mean, you know, he's not not Coast Aromas that shows up every

weekend. But, you know, he showed up,

she's in the Hall of Fame over there.

You know, she's in the horse racing, whole thing over there

for flat racing. So Lewis, three races named

after her one in Japan. One of the us and one in the UK.

That is a And that you have a huge reach in the sport.

I have a personal family story about Queen Elizabeth, she had a

horse in, the derby comes over, decides to watch the Derby in

person here in Louisville, that 2007, right?

And my aunt and uncle have for the previous five months, had a

box ready to go at the Derby and they're very excited.

My uncle, the the CEO, everyone has a rich Uncle, I have a CEO

type uncle, and they find out about a month before the Derby

that they have lost their Seats and my aunt calls Churchill

Downs. She's Furious.

What has happened? Well, the queen needs your box.

Ma'am. That's what my aunt.

Hopefully has gotten over it, but as of a couple years ago

hadn't gotten over it, it's gonna be a testament to the

quality of that box. Oh, that's what I'm saying.

Like that's, that's everybody has a rich uncle and I have that

I'll go so, yes, 100%, you know the interesting thing.

To actually the minor connection from the queen.

So they show the first time I ever did broadcaster with Mike

was on my uncle's birthday, the justify Derby.

And so my aunt and uncle were back in town for the first time

since they were bumped out of their box in 2018, for my uncle,

70th birthday. And so they, that's like my one

connection to the horse racing in the queen long live, the

queen. And then now we've got a

Charles, the Third. Third.

We have the God, Save the King in our lifetime.

It's really even sure it was like them, which is it's close.

Its close but not quite, I mean without the queen we wouldn't

have the TV show The Crown, you know.

So I mean that might be her lasting Legacy was spawning the

crown. Louis, what are you drinking

there? You got tall.

Utah glasses. Has American light beer decided

to get out the old, the old 30 ounce You know, thing for this

afternoon, this is As Nice the weather day as we have ever had.

I mean it is, it's pretty much it is great.

I was at Kentucky Downs this morning.

It was great. And then of course, John's like

I can do the show at three and I'm like, oh so I'm not gonna

watch any races today. So I ran home at did this

instead I did see Ron flatter, it talked to John serve on the

same day, so that's a good day. And Dan, Issel me.

Can't forget about Dan Issel. It's a little is, did the

flatter pod today, how about that.

Okay. So did dance, did you and Dan

had the draft? Separately.

Is that what had happened? He figured out, he could be a

minor celebrity on the The podcast room, so it's good.

Okay. All right.

Good deal. Well, what's the drinking tea

though we should? Well, listen, I can't do that.

I can't drink. No, not doing.

I love the that's one of my favorite Parts about the whole

Ted lasso series is just how much can't stand the T over

there. So, all right, let's get right

into the, the impressive. I mean, just unbelievable.

I showed this race. I watch the replay.

I didn't watch it live. A flight line in the Pacific

classic and then I immediately showed it to my wife because I

don't know, you know, obviously a wooden the 157, that's

particular bid had the fastest in for a long ever but flavian

never wrote him like, never did anything.

He's never give me a favor, back this up to where before the

final turn where he starts to make his move, because that to

me is it is it is It possible to describe unless unless you

actually watch it and I would actually like to see it again.

I mean, all he does is shake to shake the reins a little bit,

never sits down on the horse, and he's still a sub 2 minute

10. Furlong John, have you ever seen

anything like that? No, and at the thing is he did

it so effortlessly. I mean, it was he would, he

never struggled when Before the Race, you know, I was talking to

people, We're saying wow man, if he wins by like six won't that?

Be impressive and he won by 19 and a quarter.

And we were down there and I was actually mentioned flattered.

I was standing next to flatter down with Warner circles just

where we watch the race and it was so effortlessly effortless

and afterwards. You know, baffert who, by the

way, never comes down with his horses.

Came down to the track for that and I said, what do you think he

says, Why mine was so far ahead that my horse Country Grammar

who finished second by 3:41 lights, thought he won because

he was anybody else there, you know, Country Grammar, who is a

good freaking horse, who is like, you know, you've brought

the point. Like it's not a flight line went

up against a bunch of nobodies. There was three grade, one

winners in that race. It's not like, it's not like it.

Well the Triple Crown so it's he's great horse Sally

Justified. Beating Gronkowski who's on the

dirt for the first time in the Belmont.

It's that that's not what this was.

This is Country Grammar, who's a group one, winner wins a an

8-digit race in the Arabian, Peninsula, you know, multiple

frankly really good to turn horses from Southern California

that are used to the track. All that sort of thing.

This is, this is the Transcendent performance of my

time watching horses. And I'm glad to hear that from

John because, you know, sometimes You you wonder if you

are watching something that is that transcended or if it's just

in the moment, it's so great. But I went back, I watched it a

couple of times Mike, I'm not surprised you showed it to your

wife. I made I made my buddies.

Flip out of a football game on Saturday.

They're all mad and they're like, what do we want some?

Like, just watch the five, just watch the five.

Go ahead and roll attack opens next Country, Grammar down at

the rail. Stiletto, boy, express train and

still last. His Royal shuts going to come

running but he's got a good ten links to make up.

Vaughn flight line. Let's see.

A quarter of a mile to go in the Pacific classic, flavian, Pratt

and flight line or an embarrassingly that must be 15

lynxes. They turn found now and let's

see. Flavian Pratt just shakes the

reins at flight line and take a good look at this, because

you're not going to see this too often.

Maybe never again flight line, 20 lanes, clear flabby on Brad.

Takes a whole and cantor's in in the TV Jeepers sir.

Classic second place will go to Country Grammar oil shop express

track. I mean unbelievable he's got

your girls are really good horse but it's just like, wait, wait,

wait and horse appearance, you know, that's a classic stuff.

You know, country grammars time was faster than his time in the,

the Dubai World Cup. Now, I know they're different,

they're different surfaces. But that, that just underscores,

I, you know, I have never Physically seen a better

performance, you know. Again I wasn't there to see, you

know, Secretariat in the Belmont which probably is the gold

standard but you know and we just couldn't believe it.

We couldn't believe the distance that he won by how effortlessly

he did and sort of, you know, you know, Things you don't

expect to happen. I was flying home that night.

There are no, you know, San Diego to Orlando overnight

flights but there is a San Diego to Chicago flight that I then

transferred and I sit down and I got upgraded and I look to my

left. And in Row 3 is lobbying,

lobbying is flying freaking commercial through Chicago, to

get back to Sarasota. I mean the Sarasota, sir, toga.

And, you know, I said, I don't worry.

I'm not going to talk to you, because I don't want to sleep,

and he basically said, yeah, he says, I've just never never

experienced anything like that. It was just unbelievable and and

and yeah, you're right. He didn't write them in the

stretch. He just, you know, never went to

the Whip and of all the dumb things you can say.

It's that was the best performance since I've seen

since flight line, one, the Malibu.

So when Spencer Bid ran his 157, you know.

You had the one horse that just like went out to an

embarrassing, you know, shot shot out of the cannon kind of

lead set an incredible early pace and I mean I guess you can

say that's particularly good kind of close those more I guess

of a stalk of a horse over the eventually around gas.

If this horse was pushed in any way shape or form, could we see

him go sub 157? I think it's possible.

I mean John John Samuel said you know we have not seen how

talented he is yet. We have never gotten to the

bottom of the tank and you may never if there's no one I mean

life is good it's going to be a pretty formidable opponent but

to me of all I mean it's spectacular is this race was, I

think this race in the Met mile was really, you know, kind of a

defining race in the fact that he overcame a lot of adversity

allows he's he does have lousy starts.

That group will give them that, but then, you know, he goes up,

comfortably, he was two or three wide around the first turn and

just, you know, in clock and said, I just, you know, they

just wanted to run so I let him run.

And there you have it, you know, it wasn't much else.

It's certainly silenced. Any diapers, you know?

Kenny, Kenny go to turns. Yeah, but he don't, can he go a

mile and a quarter like yeah, can he do this?

This after only four now, five races.

Yeah. So you know it's he's the kind

of horse that I think regardless of where he runs I have to cover

him the rest of his career I mean obviously the neck which

what we're finding out now he that sounds like he's very

likely to run in 2023. You know, we kind of mentioned

last week that we thought you know, he was going to have this

race in the Breeders Cup and that was it.

But they're saying there's ownerships came out and said

yesterday that He's very much likely to run at some point when

23 and you know, I don't know if that's probably if I had to

guess, it's probably for just the first part of the year,

right? There we go.

There to get the Pegasus, get the Dubai money and then that

would be it. Well, when you only run two or

three races a year, you know, yeah, and I mean, Costa did that

with accelerate because the Romans who's the owner, you

know, one of the many owners but the primary spokesman, you know,

I think he'll certainly I don't know when you think about the

spacing on his own Braces is the month of two months between the

Breeders Cup Classic. And the Pegasus may be little

bit more than two months. Is that enough?

Probably and the Pegasus is not an easy race to run.

Because at a mile and an eighth at Gulfstream, you have a really

short amount of time to get to the.

But if you're that talented, you know, what does it matter?

You know, I mean, he can be in the one he can be in the, you

know, But I'm not sure, I think the biggest race that he'll ever

race. The number of horses he'll ever

race again, will be this November in the classic.

Because, you know, there are only six horses in the Pacific

classic but they were good horses.

As, you know, both of them said they were darn good horses.

I mean, you know, I just, I was blown away.

I mean it was a performance like, like Trevor said, like,

you may never see you again. Yeah, I'm glad he I'm glad he

knew it, he was willing to say it out loud when it was

happening, right? Because I was kind of like okay

maybe maybe that was their idea like they were going to get out

because it was two terms of flavian was going to make a move

early and then it and but I looked at him in my mind, I was

like I think the horse just likes to throw just to run and

it seems like a nerdy romantic thing to say about it but

sometimes horses just want to run.

He's one of those horses. Got out there did the damn thing

and You know, like Mike said I mean no coaxing from Flavia and

accept a little bit on the backstabbing just maybe at the

8th hole, but but by the time he got to the 16th and he did the

old jockey look under his arm thing.

You know? I mean there was nobody there

and I love that quote from a friend.

I had no idea that it's a grammar.

It's like I'm going to the motorcycle doubt that's pretty

well. Well, John brings out that the

biggest field will probably go up against his up.

His will be a Keeneland in the Breeders Cup Classic.

And Louis, I got to ask you like, How big will the field be

lead? I mean the decision will have to

be I mean you go for the million dollar second place.

Purse at the Breeders Cup Classic or do you go for that?

Dirt mile or you know what what what do you think is?

There's a lot of those horses that are kind of On The Fringe

between that classic mile, you know, I think we're going to,

you know, if it were at Churchill, the classic field

would be 9 or 10 because it's, it would be the to turn option

because the Mi would be one turn.

It's a to turn my life. And I think it makes it a very

easy thing. For two horses to drop into the

mile, rather than going into the classic.

And so I think the classic field will be five, six, seven,

something like that. John Henry, bigger.

Once the ones that will be in with him, don't run the style

that he does. They're not get out front, stay

out front types, it's so he's now.

I don't I don't know who's gonna challenge him in that kind of

feel. I mean, you know, the

conventional wisdom is life is good.

I mean, but, you know, like this good has his looked really good

but not like that. Nobody has looked like that.

And I think epicenters thinking about that and, you know, we're

gonna find out the Mike's theory on the Your old class on that

one and that although I do think I think my Eclipse vote will go

to epicenter for three-year-old Colt, but you know it's it's

almost like it was a really strange feeling and I was

talking to Joe Harper who's the CEO at Del Mar?

And actually Josh Josh Rubenstein, who's the CEO?

Oh, before the race. And you know, there's just sort

of that that anxiety like cash we really hope he does well

because, you know, racing needs this.

I mean, and I've said it, I've written it, you know, racing

most sports celebrate, their Stars Racing retires.

There's and, you know, the fact that Costa's is potentially

willing to go another, another year, the thing that that, you

know, one of the things that that actually that baffert says

a Is even the very best horse loses and somewhere.

Next year, flight line could get baby just you know may not show

up or whatever but we've seen no hint of that.

I mean zero hint of that. Okay.

So let's let's map them out. Where would you take it?

You take him to the Pegasus and in January then what your next

stop. I mean if you go Middle East, I

think you go to the Middle East and then that's it.

I don't think you come back from the Middle East and run again.

That's probably right. You go Ray be infinite, slow.

You just go do that be done without income for 20 million.

I might go, I might go back to the mat mile.

If I'm him, if I run the Pegasus go back to the mi mi he seemed

to like it. I just don't like I guess when

you're so lightly race like to me like you know that the whole

the whole thing's cared for the breeding.

So you know if you were going to run as a Well, I guess I would.

I'm surprised he's not a little bit more seasoned than where he

is right now as a from a race perspective.

But, you know, so like if you're going to raise him you might as

well go write some big right. Go chase the big purses and

that's going to be over in the Arabian Peninsula.

What happens when things that Costa said is he wants him to be

America's Horse and you know, can you do?

It's not like the truth is these guys don't need the money, I'm

Gonna Know. And is it willing to put your

horse through the travel to go there and then then you know

okay so say you do this Audi Dubai double then you come back

I don't know, Pacific classic and then and then Breeders Cup

Classic I don't see that. I actually think he'll stay

domestic but you know, I don't know.

I mean this is this is a horse of a generation.

It's a horse it's a Civil lifetime probably the best horse

since secretary it if you can say that after five races and

yeah let's be honest. You can't really say that after

five races but you can think it but we've only had one horse

ever won. The Brit school class or twice

so that would be quite interesting, be cool if they

just get the Breeders Cup and just went straight to the Clark

right? And here so listen you say that

but you know Clark Field way better than it would.

Normally that's actually a real possibility.

You know, the courts don't have to watch because because life is

good. You could have to free spaces.

If if they don't go to the same race, I mean life is good would

be really good. The Breeders Cup by.

I think dirt. What is like?

You love Olympiad what's Olympiad.

Do Casco classic? Yeah, I would think so too.

And I also wonder if life is good out of a life is good in

Olympia, who gives A little bit more of a push.

So question. Yeah.

Well, the thing about life is good that will push is that he

likes to be out front, right? That style that running style

that that come get me version of him, makes him more interesting

overall in the race. But yeah I don't you know how

much how I feel about Olivia, I don't see him beating flight

line for sure epicenters a fine three-year-old.

He's probably done after this year.

I do not They're beating life is good, excuse me, flight line.

Either one probably. Yeah, you know, because I mean

even, you know, I was just looking at it, you know, life is

good. Start in the Whitney, you know,

it goes a mile and an eighth and he does it, you know, pretty

much in hand. No problem finishing time sub

149. So if you add a furlong to that

he's looking at like a 20 to something like that, probably,

you know. Is that a problem?

I don't think so because I don't Don't try to remember.

It's happy saver. Hot rod Charlie, I don't think

they were pressing him at all. Looking at head of town that

day. Yeah, so my mind, you know, it's

life as good as he is the main Challenger here, but if you can,

I get it. The check is, the check is what

it is. And the chance to excuse me,

catch a flight line on an off day to pick off.

The classic would be pretty great but to turn mild and I

think it's going to complicate a lot of things.

You know, the mention that the off day, I mean he will have an

off day, but does that mean he wins by 6:00 instead of Right?

Or does that mean he finishes up the track?

And we don't know, one of the funny things is I saw Craig for

Abel who's the CEO of Stronach group just before the race when

I was heading heading downstairs.

And and he called me over his okay, Craig what's the deal

here? If he wins?

How about you guys come up with a bonus to get him to run in the

awesome again. Craig answered with one word.

No. Plus, you know they wouldn't do

that. I mean the thing about you know

coaster onus is brother Pete. You know is is it really do take

care of the horses? I mean, they brought accelerate

back as five after that. He won that.

When the classic at 451 the classic at let's see.

I have it up here. He wanted in 2018.

So your spot is 50k and then he came back at 6 to do the to do

the Pegasus which should concept the Pegasus which is a totally

different deal than it started out.

And started out to be almost like a quarter horse race where

everyone put up a million dollars and you know winner take

all and then that was awesome. yes yes yeah and but it is you

know so if you're willing to pay the insurance, which is what is

what I wrote a story about it, you think I've remember it's

like 5% or something of the host it's basically With the older

stakes races that they haven't been in this country anywhere.

Is it really does not make economic sense to do that,

because you're not going to make enough money.

I mean, even even that, what the Santa Anita handicap handicap is

the cap is now in six hundred thousand dollars, you know.

And do you keep him around all year to get the sum of the

million-dollar Breeders Cup races or do you, you know, put a

half way across the world to run in the Arabian peninsula.

They're five million dollar race is at Kentucky Downs this

weekend. Saturday alone is worth a

million bucks. Well you only got one.

You got two million dollar. Race is on there.

Well the 750 races can be bumped up if it's a Kentucky bred.

Okay okay. All right so before we go on let

me let one last thing about this and we'll talk more about

flavians, big big day because I think we've got to go there

next. How does horse racing screw this

up or just horse racing? Create a just a ton of buzz in

the next two months and get tons of eyeballs watching NBC I mean

to me John this is like I remember Zenyatta in the loss to

blame. That was the most excited I've

ever seen a race track ever Pharaoh in the classic people

wanted to tune into that. You don't get a Triple Crown

Runner and Flightline. So people, the average person

doesn't know who flight line is. How does horse racing go out

there and create a buzz for what?

This is probably the greatest horse that anyone's ever going

to see. Well you know traditionally

horse racing will always screw up whatever opportunity it has.

That's that's just how they do things.

I don't know. I don't know if there's a plan

to create a buzz with the non, you know, the non regular horse

racing followers, you got to admit.

It's remember it's in football season, you know, and everybody,

you know, the first, you know, the Rams play tonight, you know,

in the first game. You know, college football's is

week two or week 3, depending on how you count it, and I'm not

sure what they can do. You know, saying yatta had the

added factor of being a, you know, feeling a girl horse, you

know, being a mirror and that added step brought in a little

bit of a different audience. So and I don't feed it and hate

being undefeated in 20 some odd. Braces, right?

Yeah. But you know, I don't know, I

don't know how horse-racing can capitalize on this, but here's

something to think about Beyond this year and the future of the

Breeders Cup who has the big 10 starting next year and no in

d.c. But one game.

Yep. NBC.

And you wonder if what that will do to the Breeders Cup.

Let's say the Breeders Cup is in Santa Anita.

It's in Del Mar are they willing to take that take the classic

can move it to like you know 1:00 in the afternoon in

California so they can put on a late late?

You know, the Big 10 game? Well yeah I mean I think that's

you know, we've talked on your show about the the change to

FanDuel from TV G and I think so far, all I've noticed is like us

losing like the bottom third of the screen and think it as a

transition has changed because I got so sick of those

commercials, you know, to be fair, what used to be TVG to Is

pretty just solidly horse racing.

It's actually pretty good. Okay.

Yeah I think it's called FD racing, that that's been.

I've really enjoyed that and then they actually update the

third screen which is like the it's supposed to simulate you

being in a parley. Essentially, I don't know TB and

then, I mean, do they do the international races?

Yes. Okay.

I mean, what are the things that I really when I had a look in

Pasadena? It's an apartment there and I

had TV T 2. Then I like just have TVG and

I'll do have a fire stick that can get Stevie.

I was gonna say you have to use that man.

You have to use that. And that that's kind of a pain

in the ass, but one of my favorite things on TV G was when

they would take a big race and encapsulated into 30 minutes and

they would are though and I'm kind of a late guy and, you

know, you they start, you know, 10 11 12, 1 o'clock in the

morning. You can watch some really great.

Races encapsulated in a half hour.

Now I would frankly rather watch that then you know the sixth

race at Hong Kong but that's just me.

I'm not that interested in international racing although we

don't win the international versus come over for the

Breeders Cup. That's that adds some you listen

to that episode. Yeah, right.

Yeah, I'm more than ever especially after what you did

last year, right? So yeah.

So, so anyway, I'm not sure we're I was going with that

other than other than the TV landscape.

I mean, I can see horse racing be almost an entirely screaming

product product and because and that's not a negative thing.

By the way, that's just the reality of where we're going

with. A lot of sports, frankly, I saw,

I was listening to an interview yesterday on our local ESPN

Affiliates about Valvano used to work at ESPN Radio in

Connecticut. And he had one The original guys

who was there. Yesterday was ESPN's like 37th

anniversary of being founded as a company.

And when they went to streaming, they discovered that they would

take sports that have smaller followings but very intense

followings and put them on the streaming platform.

So Cricket is one of these in the United States where if

you're an Indian expat or Pakistani expat whatever or one

of their kids you're going to watch a lot of cricket,

something like that. And then on top of that there I

forget the other sports but might be bowling or Billiards or

something like that that have these really intense followings

that people go over there now. Horse racing is a bigger sport

that all of those for sure but I think there are a lot of people

who play for pay for hrt's at horse racing TV.

Is that what I'm thinking of that is just to say?

To be lose. Louis this happens once a show,

John Louis just kind of freezes. Yeah, and that's it, you know,

but he's back, he's back. He's back now and they don't

want that 30-minute display of what the race is about to be.

Now, John also doesn't watch derby cover.

Because he's there. That's right.

So you don't know what NBC is doing for an hour and a half

before the Derby, which is fine. It's rather be at our spot then

watching it at home but the it is, although they do great human

interest stories during the I think I'd be C does a very good

job. Yeah, absolutely.

But the, especially when I watched a the Belmont or

something. If I'm not there, whatever.

I think they do a really good job.

That's flipping a fox that's cut this coming year, right?

Yes. Yeah, so that's a big change to

it'll be interesting if they have Gus Johnson calling races

or whatever. Fox decides.

To do oh it's let the jockey decides to do but the pantyhose

it's a plaid. All right the Breeders Cup

article from Keeneland, I got many things when we talked about

TVG, becoming FanDuel TV, Yeah, it's and again we'll we'll wait

and see if they change their personnel.

If they do some some, some changes there.

You know, what happens in these first three to four month, four

months, you know. And again, they're going up

against the NFL and right college football and and you

know, FanDuel doesn't care about the, you know, the million

dollar race in Kentucky, down care about, you know, the spread

on some of those college and certainly those Games.

All right, flavian, wins three out of four bit, you know, comes

in from Saratoga, won three of the four stakes races.

This is him in Hong, Kong, Harry, will watch this one, and

that's it. And third Hong Kong Harry.

Starting a light drum Hong Kong Harry in the white blank is now

making good. Headway on the outside.

They come for home. Goliad getting weary Air, Force,

read down the center. Hong Kong Harry coming like a

rocket and Hong Kong Carry. Just mowed them all down.

Hong Kong Harry and flavian brought win the Del Mar Mi SEC.

Hi Hong Kong Harry with the impressive close their

flavoring. Also one on gold Phoenix to

close out the the card I mean, that was about.

It was legit. I mean, hopefully being made is

travel day, work for him reminded me of what was the day,

John, that I read went out west and just one the to grade ones

and then flew back. Yeah, you know, I'll try to

remember. I was there I was trying to

remember and when you take a look at that and Delmar has a

really short stretch, you know, Los Alamitos have the longest

stretch and they'll Mars not certainly not the shortest but

you know it's tough to come through like he does or like

like they did but Fabien is just getting better, you know.

And you know, is he Irene Iran is is is maybe arguably, maybe

none. Arguably the best jockey in the

country right now, but he's got some issues, you know, he's he's

a little reckless at times and Joelle is, you know, fantastic

but he you know asked asked you know Steve asmussen about about

his right on epicenter in the was the Preakness.

I think you know she thought was just Isabel Fabien and Eddie,

you know what? He's I know him before he was

like really good and he's a really nice guy.

He's just he's Pleasant, he's he's, he's respectful when you

when he sees you, he waves to you, not that that means

anything. But it's just like, he's kind of

aware of him of himself and his role in the in the business and

I think he's, you know, he's a couple years away from Eclipse

award, you know? And and while I was sorry to see

him, leave Southern California, you know, he certainly made the

right the right move for him, although private person who's

most happy, he left Southern California's Juan Hernandez,

he's on the grass, a to respond to.

Yeah, right. And it was physically on the

grass. Yeah. you know, the interesting

thing about Flavia and in the finish up at and so has he

finished his second at Saratoga was something like a hundred

less mouths than irad and certainly less our horses and I

read had and just a really impressive first run in that

Saratoga me, frankly, he doesn't have an East Coast agent yet

Number two, on the air. You're right.

I didn't I didn't think about that.

Who's his agents. Other client is Mike Smith.

No. I'm trying to think because I

think you're allowed to two Riders at any one Colony, so I

don't know. I'm just kind of like a gun that

is so, but I don't want to go ahead Lee

and it was Luminary Central, I mean you got the Hall of Famer

the initial you got. Steve Beck doing this show down

there, Ron flatters down there, you got our guy Tim Wilkins down

there, Trackside Jenny, Reese's down there.

I mean everybody was there it felt like being at the freaking

so I just figured out that I did it out of order because Tim is

doing notes with Jenny. But yeah, so the but I was

there. I mean everybody moves there was

incredible and so the It's hard. It's getting hard to put lose

screen on on camera. I just want to know John it's so

but don't. It's look we talk about it.

Mike Cash talks, man. Money Talks.

I mean like that. That's what this is going to the

bathroom. Today, I passed to Ortiz,

Brothers. I mean it's just it is just what

it is, right, on a Thursday, on the Tennessee Border, that's

what this is. Nobody talks.

And it is, it is incredible. What the, you know, the rise in

purses in Kentucky, has done To all of these tracks to all of

them. Frankly, that I mean we had a

aircraft over the weekend at Kentucky Downs in the derby,

their little girl. And he's like yeah I'm based in

Kentucky and I don't have to go anywhere.

Now I'm good we talked about what money does allowance races

at Kentucky Downs today for two-year-olds.

Well. Why would you leave?

Where are you going? I mean I just if you're based

here, man, it's going to be, you know, the interesting thing.

Like we're going back and forth doctor Derby on Twitter, a

couple of years ago and he said you live in it.

You live in a artificial ecosystem or something like that

you live in a bubble. Yeah, it man.

Is that the only concern here John?

Is there a possibility? It just becomes, you know, we

watching in college sports, with the SEC in the Big Ten.

They're going to get these huge TV deals.

Everyone else is gonna have a third of the money, a quarter of

the money there. Any possibility that happens.

It always reason. Oh yeah.

Oh I'm sorry. Is it you're right?

It does. I mean the real question is, you

know, is California racing a power five racy go places.

You know, because it's sort of on the cusp, you know, New York

has the backing of fox. You know, because Fox owns 25%

of never bets and Florida racing is really only exists.

You know, during the Gulf Stream meeting and even that that's not

a very good meeting, you know, there's a lot of crappy races

there. This is a couple of big races

but I think traditionally you don't want to be in New York

because it's too cold and where they had five days a week, is a

lot of golf. I mean, it doesn't exist

anymore. This is dead, there's nothing

that matters in Arizona or New Mexico, California Northern

California's, you know when we all love that dinner men, he's

not calling great great, he's calling great races but they're

not great races and in Southern California again at some point

when does the real estate value of Santa Anita that kid up, it

is only able to raise three days a week.

When does one does that, you know, Not not make sense

anymore. And then Delmar course is does

not own this property. You know, it's owned by the

state and it's a fair graphs. They can't run all year round

there. And of course I mean I think one

of the biggest mistake so he helped earlier racing made using

say many to went for like 26 months meeting and they did put

a couple of dark weeks in there, but there's just too much racing

now. Kentucky, you've got, you know,

you've got Churchill. Surf way you've got you know,

Kentucky Downs, you know, you just date with Kaitlyn.

Yeah. But I think Louisa's chemo is

really only about some racing. So you know, if racing goes to

its final legs Kentucky, will be the bubble, Kentucky will be

where it exists because you know, the infrastructure there

that they the purses, you know. And the The historical racing

Gambit, which is frankly what it is, you know, it has worked very

well for them, you know? And again we also don't know

what sports betting is going to do for California racing.

They have they have two amendments.

One of them says brick-and-mortar, only one of

them says online, which one do you think is going to be better

for racing? Well, that would be brick and

mortar but I don't know which one's gonna pass.

I mean, you know, I don't know. Just got too close.

Well, I've been of the opinion on this show and I know you've

heard it that we need, we need saying, I need a, we need Delmar

to be grade 1 tracks. Essentially for using horse

racing terms, we need that to be a great one circuit.

So I hope they can figure it out for sure.

Because those are, I mean, and I'm not, and I mean, this is,

this is both just as a fan on the outside, things like this

and Anita Derby leading in. You know, the preps that run

through Southern California, the ability to host those Breeders

Cup in a really meaningful way. And then frankly for us just

watching the demographic of our show and if we did that Southern

California we'd have 20% less listeners.

It's um, you know, it's just really popular where it, you

know, out there and so I just, you know, it is, is that all

because its share of the, I mean, don't you think that you

only was so, you know, that's a really good question.

My initial thought is, yes, my second thought is no chance and

so I choose one of those there. Yeah, it's someone that.

All right, John, thanks for joining us.

It just has seven days for me. It's really a couple of dark

weeks. Actually give the stewards a

couple days off that and we had the VP of racing on on the radio

show this morning and he essentially said we can't run

more than we run. Because we'll just kill the

course and. And so I was happy to hear that.

I'll be honest because I think it's better as a super as a

hyper Boutique be essentially, like being very, very small

being very unique amongst racing and so hopefully they're able to

keep it at the 7 days or so. Yeah, that you guys have gone

almost 44 minutes. Then you just have without

machine Green Sheet racing is that I would actually take what

you're looking for. Yeah, we're we go there now.

Our friends are going well for both of us, very good.

So we also know that you don't want to handicap.

I don't know if I would be arrested for fraud, if that

happens, you know, and that's why I don't have any change on.

So I just said, I just put the ball on the tee for Louis can

just let him swing the club. So alrighty.

Well, it will talk to you next time.

John, thanks for joining us. Is John cervenka.

Yeah, racing extraordinaire of the LA Times.

So alright, let's do the Green Sheet segment.

By the way, make sure you're going out to Green Sheet and

Green Sheet racing.com and getting your green sheet for the

weekend and take part of watching The Great races down.

I can tell you downs. And like Louise said, there's

gonna there's a three grade 2 s and 2 grade threes.

But two of those have a million-dollar purse, owes to a

great, 27 million dollars per person the 750 race which is

actually great three. You could get bumped up to a

million dollars. Louis, the thing that makes this

whole thing crazy to me is that you see a horse like gufo travel

on two weeks rest to get down here to race for a million

dollars. That's exactly.

Yeah. Wildman it is crazy.

It is freaking crazy. So I get it.

Cripes Almighty. It is a, by the way, the place

is beautiful evidently Improvement.

Suitors is still just a field like, you know, Okay, that's the

only thing I didn't get to do today that I wanted to do was

actually walk in the course. Do you remember the USC Notre?

Dame football game with Reggie. Bush, getting pushed into the

end. I was literally there and the

grass was this deep and people are watching at home.

Yeah. The nine inches of grass.

I was like now I wasn't watching him but yes I was at was at the

game, right? So it's like being in my

bedroom, it it is It is like that over their entire Turf

course it is just like it is a meadow in the nicest way that I

can say it, it's very well-maintained.

I mean it's very consistent throughout.

You can tell it's all exactly the same undulation 's mmm.

If we had outtakes, we would save that one but there's two

separate different dips in the track, one of them on the

backside, one of them on the front side.

And and so it's a very unique course when we had are Foster on

today, I asked you What should I look for if I'm handicapping and

he goes, I don't know some horses.

Take well to it is some horses. Don't, I was like, thank you

Eric. I appreciate that very much.

Thank you. Thank you are.

Thank you. There it is.

That's all you need to know. So, I, so when we, as we get

into the handicapping here, with our friends, a Green Sheet, I'm

doing a late pick for because this is a wildly unpredictable

sequence. However, the good thing about

Kentucky Downs 14% take out on both the pick five.

The pick for so you're not penalized for playing these

shorter. See penalized.

If it's not healed at all. Penalized 14% for that.

Take out on the pick force will be playing that I do want to

talk about all five of them layers.

Well then let's do it Louie. I mean, let's get you there and

there's actually we don't even have the other million dollar

race on there, which is the WinStar MIT million Stakes.

They're not. Now they're not racing tomorrow.

Correct? Or taking their let nature was

Thursday Saturday, Sunday. Yeah, that's right.

That's for the Integrity of the turf course, actually.

Yes. All right.

So are we going to not? We're going to not do the

WinStar. Let's do is that earlier in the

day? Yeah, race five.

Let's look at. All right.

So right, we'll start there with race five, which is a million

dollars online. Again everything here is a Turf.

This is one mile for three year, olds and up and this is the wind

star. We're going to see some like a

hot brown here, who's at 12:48, which is kind of crazy to even

think, of course, been around for a little bit.

Who do you like in this race? Louis?

Why check your email? Okay, you want to check them.

Yeah. Check your e-mail.

I'll start talking. You check your email.

So this is help me out race to. Yeah, sorry, I'm sorry.

Rach 5. Yeah.

So I'm going to look at a couple of things this weekend.

Tyler, definitely. Own is the all-time leading

Rider at Kentucky Downs. I'm gonna lean on him in spots

where I can't quite figure things out.

Excuse me. I'm gonna look at horses that

have run a Kentucky announced previously in one.

So in that race. Could you get pixelate in the

two hole? For example, which over Rosario

You said that you whole that's who you get in the two hole.

Okay, get into 1 million. Last year is stepping into the

million again. This year.

Cool thing. Last year to this year, that

court that race kept its graded status.

So what we're seeing is as these horses come in as you see a gufo

come in for a grade 2 they're gonna be able to keep those

great statuses for these races which is very fun pics.

Like wins the race last year. Over Some Like It Hot Brown

who's also in this field and also ran really well Some Like

It Hot brown. One time over the course came in

second that time. You get 92 on Some Like It Hot

Brown of 52. Want to pixelate based more on

recent Forum, has only run one time this year and that was in

July, guess what? We're second off the layoffs, a

love that angle. Of course, a little bit over a

month off. In this case, about them for

five weeks and trainer Michaels didn't come in at 17 percent the

two of them have already run two horses together at this meet

they've already won and so I like that very, very much.

Some like an operand is probably an include here.

Two wins last year. Already, got a win this year.

Has won in a list at stake. Over muddy.

Go had to go off the cars off the terrified to win over.

Mud doesn't bother me that a horse wins over wet.

Go when we're talking about the surface, it Kentucky Downs,

right? Little bit deeper a little bit

more work that you have to do going over these distances.

So that makes sense for Mike maker and it was a Ortiz Mike

maker. By the way, already hitting it

25% and just smashing an across-the-board. 13 hits of the

board in 24 runs at Kentucky Downs this meat really really

really good hit rate so far as actually the favored here and

that's because of the time. The connection.

So, if you wanted to go with the jockey connection here, go with

the 72 tone, I think that's a totally reasonable angle as

well. Tono over 45 in 2022, I

understand. And I'm telling you, that's when

that's how much people think of Tyler at Kentucky Downs.

I've just telling you, that's what people think he's 5 for 27

so far this year. Pepper, the board is himself, 11

times, 27 rounds. I like it outside.

Horse here though, with David Cohen, Calvary charges here.

One last year at KD void Alice Stewart.

Yep. It was in September actually, in

an optional claimer here with Bryant Hernandez going.

Going a mile over the over the course.

Same, exact course, that we're going to get here, gets to break

from the outside. I actually like that horse at

12:48 as well. So I would use any of those four

horses. But I would lean on pixelate

here at 12:55 as my top selection and of course we saw

cavalry charge Indiana Derby Day, right?

So and finish ahead of some like a hard Brown and you rocking the

racing Rachel shirt and she's already commenting.

She's texting us and letting us know that only Lost.

I've Heart by a length in that race, right?

I mean, that's and I told her one, I don't want to be critical

of the turf course, but that wasn't a Turf race round in the

sort of traditional sense. However, charge already won over

the Kentucky Downs course, that means the environment.

The undulations of the course the environment there, as far as

like being tree-lined rather than having people in cars or

whatever. Doesn't bother the source told

the ones, a super nice number and a Kentucky Downs.

Those kinds of horse All the time.

What do you think about even taking, you know, the another

horse that was in that race is who's been running out?

Ellis Park also who like Grace Fable at a 10 to 1, but I can't

recharge 12 to one's much better.

Play than grade, PHA will attend to I think in my mind it is he

kind of Michelle is a nice writer.

She's only hitting at 7% this year for wins at 55 rides.

She and Brian Lynch, have already won actually this year

together but not a Kentucky down, she's over five, she

hasn't even hit the board and so I just for me cavalry charge

makes much more sense, in 12 more.

Okay. So We're going to we're going to

move on to the next race. And when I said 12 to Once

someone has been I was actually looking at, Kentucky goes the

horse right below. I got my eyes kind of play

tricks on me and so yeah, we're going to move to the Kentucky

knows another horse 12:48 has hit the board twice, run Second

Twice, a Kentucky Downs. So the horse isn't without

experience at the track and has run.

Well, they're both a 90 speed, Beyer speed, figures plus.

And so that's roughly bejarano, man.

You're not going to go wrong with that guy.

He's going to give you an honest, ride hasn't won yet at

the meeting, but it doesn't mean that he can't pick one off.

All right, we're going to see a potential female star in the

one-mile turf for the ladies. The Kentucky Downs ladies Turf,

this is a great 3 is like Lucetta 750-thousand, dollar

purse. But if Kentucky Thoroughbred

Jenna potentially, maybe even other 375, is that it is them.

So when I read, I don't sleep. Yeah, so listen, another great

field, we get to leak out, we can Hindi Woods, I mean, this

is, this is another nice field. What?

Are you liking this one? Yeah, DeLuca.

I just so again, one out of this crazy lady on that, on that

million day. Again, not really the turf

course, Counterpoint she's already won a Kentucky towns.

Previously running a 96 piece, figure in this race winner.

Last year, she wins it, excuse me, she runs in this race last

year behind Princess Grace by a half a length.

She's right there, right? Carrying the same way, doing the

whole thing gets Bryant Hernandez Junior here.

Who wrote her to the wind at Churchill Downs.

So she's an inclusive using I need to drink beer.

That's right. You drink all the beer you need.

You're making Rachel proud. It's so handy.

Woods of course was involved in in a in a in a dead heat.

It's going to rain on Saturday. We don't know how much.

And so we might be looking at a good Turf course, rather than a

firm Turf course. In this horse has won over good.

Go at Indiana listed steaks, who did you say was a future

Princess Grace? Yes.

Yeah. Princess Grace could be.

I mean, I think Princess Grace is the top plate here before I

was rude. Michael Stidham.

Them have already won a Kentucky down to this meeting horse won

last year in this race when she was going great and then she got

off this course things, slow down for.

She did come back to win a great 30 Parks over firm.

Go over 2 over 2 turns. What's interesting about the

mile course here because you take that elongated trip around

the final turn there. It's almost like a to turn race.

Actually, it's not like one Turner at Belmont.

You actually have to do the work of going around a full turn,

almost like running a circle on it.

Yeah, it's almost like 50%. More work than you would have to

do it another track. And so, I really trust her since

you did that break this, you ran a really good race in the

Beverly D. So she runs that form back and

she's has the experience of Kentucky Downs of, not hating

the track. She should be able to come back

and win this race as well. So I would definitely use her

and then I just I don't know about the nine.

It's not a really low price here.

The for with Jose Luis Cano, and shook, two of them, hitting an

insane percentage of 28 percent this year.

I just don't know if she's going to like the course here, and I

really worry about that for a lot of these horses.

Sometimes you have to gamble that a certain horse will like

it and so I sort of just guessing they're gonna like it

but I would leave her off the tickets.

I would leave on Princess Grace. I would leave it on talika who

are both winners here and on Eddie Woods frankly, the three

here who's with Giuliana Peru who already has four wins over

this course 19% at Kentucky Downs because the turf rider.

That's what he does the best, right?

He's going to be a guy that rides a grass, the best.

His best form will be on the grass.

And so heavy was, it was one twice the last time about five

out. Cluding, one of the one dreamer

last year, four hundred thousand dollar listed Stakes because

that's what they do at Kentucky towns.

Should have a good trip here so I would use those sources.

I'm looking also maybe a lady space spear for a little bit of

now you play at eight to one. This one's a really nice number.

All right, so that's a winner sometimes horses just win,

right? And that's right.

Yeah, yeah. Alright.

The FanDuel Turf Sprint is a great tool for a million

dollars. Six, furlongs.

It's going to be kind of starting at the beginning, third

of that, kind of weird. And that they have, I guess,

really? The First turns, the weird to

turn the more of The Hairpin turn.

I don't know. This is a another great race

million dollars here. Louis, who do you like in this

one? So, Iraq came in won the first

race today. Yeah, and he's got a recipe

right on the outside and people might say, oh man, you're

breaking right at the top of the turn.

That's a terrible spot to be on the outside.

The good news for her or perhaps get some rest because there's

cold for him, is that you have to go and he Wants to be out

from. And if he's going to win this

race, he's going to have to be out front.

So he's got the break. Well he's gonna have to get out

front. That's his style from six runs

the last few years. He's hit the board in all of

them. One for a second and a third.

So if you want a horse that's possibly a single in your

sequence, this might be it. I wouldn't single anyone in this

sequence. I just don't think the track

plays that way. It's just not, it's just not

that kind of freaking track. It just isn't there.

A lots of horses here that you could use that.

Make a lot of sense, chewing gum.

Has run in every track in North America would by its and Anita

Aqueduct Belmont Kentucky, doubts, are it's okay Churchill

Downs. Horse has been everywhere.

The horse is 14 times in 24 runs five to one on the line Belmont

seven year old horse, Joel Rosario already picked up a

couple wins. At the meat has been training,

over the Belmont training, track But one it Kentucky Downs last

year or two years ago God, I can't remember now it's been a

while but the horse has been everywhere.

It doesn't seem to mind where he runs.

So if you just want a horse that runs all over the place, chewing

gum would be that kind of course is the to win this race.

Oh, I really like somebody in this race where my notes were

else. Chewing gum has gone

head-to-head with the rest. Me, read a couple times and has

come hit the board with a raspberry red much, the better

in those races. We're seeing good form out of

horses that have won it. Park and I don't know why that

is. But for some reason, of course,

is that if one of those Park have come to Kentucky Downs and

done well. And so, in this case, totally

boss, the 10 is 12 to 14 hours. Rule in Rusty Arnold has won

over a yielding course at Keeneland before as well ran ran

seventh. But by 3/4 of a length three

three and a quarter likes. Excuse me, a Kentucky Downs in

the turf oh Sprint last year, over soft go.

If it's not that wet if it's something where the horse can

Really get its footing, totally bosses 12:48 might be a problem

here, but I do think a recipe red is on top here, and it's

pretty significant off to the next horse.

Other horses that, you know, don't have experience here.

That might be a problem, you know, I think, you know, for

example, like Johnny unleashes run here, twice, nothing to show

for it. That's the kind of horse that

you should toss once in awhile horses that run on synthetic, by

the way, have been running really well here.

So, our Zach is a horse here, who's 446?

On the synthetic. And that was mostly over the

Woodbine synthetic. So I don't know how well that

will translate here. Picks up Kimura, the jockey

hasn't run yet at a Kentucky Downs.

That might be kind of an include here.

It's a not this time in a tap a damn I just I'm interested if

more of these synthetic Runners who seem to not mind that the

more work you have to do with synthetic not mining to have to

deal with the deeper turf at Kentucky Downs as well.

All right, we're going to move on to the I guess the the star

of the day, right? This is the big one, the

Kentucky Turf cup, the grade two million dollar, purse mile and a

half. And we talked about gufo being a

mile-and-a-half specialist gufo, trying to run a mile and a half

for the second time. In two weeks after winning.

The Sword Dancer is a heavy favorite 725.

Can Goof. Oh, do it again.

I'm against him here. I'm going to try to use arklow

who is run for it. Two Kentucky Downs.

Never finished worse than second.

Seems to enjoy the course. Was in this Turk up last year

lost by a neck. A couple years back.

Over soft, go in the Kentucky Turf cup, which is a great three

at the time, Randall. 102 /, / soft go.

We may have a really wet soft surface on Saturday won that

race. So, I'm going to lean on arklow

here. I think if you had to single, if

you had a single, this would be the leg, you would do it in and

you would use our club. We have 24 hours.

What's up and not? Okay.

Wow, you'd see, I hate the two-week layoff here.

I hate it, I do too. But I also hate the fact that

our clothes, I mean, really kind of coming off of somewhat of a

turbulent 2021 is only race once and 2022 the layoffs.

First time off the layoffs, runs in a grade 2 is only a half

lengths off at the finish at a mile and 38.

We get an extra eighth of a mile here.

I think this actually sets up really really well for our koi.

I think this is the kind of race.

The Brad Cox picks off all the time. 28% second off the layoff

with, Brad Cox horses had great success in Kentucky announced.

This is the kind of course I definitely lean into.

All right, well there it is. So that's that's a Louise big on

the are closed there so we're going to go through the six and

a half. Furlong great three.

The mint ladies Sprint which is a six hundred thousand dollar

purse. Who do you like in this one

living? I don't okay but you know,

campanelle comes in here obviously you know people Really

leaning on irad Turf sprinters. Like we just talked about how

bad the allergies are in Kentucky right now.

I don't know. I'm sitting outside except that

my kids were getting home from school.

When the show was gonna be, I didn't want to be in my basement

cause the weather's perfect, but Kevin has won twice this year.

Once this year, scuse me went over to ask.

It didn't work out. They tried her in a straight

line. Race didn't work.

She gets to go back to turn here.

I do think that's going to be good for her.

She did win the Giant's Causeway at Keeneland by a bunch by two

and a half lengths. She was really, really good.

That day. She's coming out of the ten hole

here. I am interested because I don't

think it will bother her to have to bypass forces, but on the, on

the finish that Kentucky, down, you go down a hill and then up a

hill and then you flatten out essentially at the finish.

I'm so sorry. I think, you know, it'll be

interesting to see if she takes to that very well.

She only lost by 3/4 of a length.

You know, a task. It's not like she ran poorly in

a, you know, 24 horse field, goal, 24 horses, kind of wait

for those to happen, a Kentucky down someday, but if you're

looking for another horse, I really have always liked jouster

was a horse that is one and a bunch of listed spots stepping

up integrated spot here in the grade 3.

But Josh is a really really nice our schedule or zarion Todd

Pletcher, only clutch or sensor. Unless she's really ready has

been running at. Saratoga Vermeil distances.

Has been largely every other type course as well.

So she ran well, to back in the perfect song before that she was

winning every other last year. In twenty one gave a little bit

of time off, over the from July 21st, July 21, to March.

So she's 15 times this year, she won the one in the perfect song.

Going of the one, turn mile over the turf at Belmont.

She kind of gets the same setup here because the six-and-a-half

actually starts at the bottom. Near the bottom of the hill.

So they actually have to run up the hill there to get to that

turn. So it's going to feel like a

mile, not like six-and-a-half furlongs and so it'll be

interesting to see if she takes to it.

Tyler's on the one Bay Storm, this might be where you just use

him. That horse has won two in a row,

stepping up in class again. Coming off, an optional claim

Irwin to back at Belmont over, six furlongs five-and-a-half at

at Monmouth, the horse can go out front and stay out front.

The horse can also stalk. I worry a little bit about that

rail position. Getting swallowed up by four or

five horses, something like that.

Getting stuck on the rail if she's able to not do that then

she can be a factor as well. I just I think either you really

Lean Like I said I'm camping out or you just grab a bunch

campanelle does, have that European experience.

I imagine going six furlongs at basket.

It does have a hill involved, right?

So she's going to have that experience.

Such mind against bots are 11 in.

Good spirits is announced all John Velazquez combination as

well. And so, just but hasn't won this

year has been running decently. Well, as been closed has been

with within two and a half lengths and every race, but

those are in lesser races than this.

Also talking about Churchill Woodbine over Sprints and then

we try to turn at Saratoga and she's, you know, she's in fourth

place. I just don't know where she is

and so like I said, I think you might have to leave in a couple

of horses. Final Stakes race other day will

be the six-and-a-half, Furlong Franklin Simpson, a great to.

So if you like Tyler Tyler's action on a 15 1 shot and that

in the to with pleasure as the trainer, it's not a bad 12:45

bet but we are probably going to see because this is three Golds.

Only, we're going to see. Could be a rising star in the

turf World, deter Sprint, world and big Invasion.

Who's won, six of the last seven?

Who do you like in this one? Louis, I do like big Invasion.

It's just, it's just the consistency runs at Saratoga

Belmont. Churchill Gulfstream, seems to

not matter where horses right there or wins only time he

didn't win was when he lost by 2.

It is is Debut over five furlongs at Gulfstream during

the championship meet breaks his Maiden during the championship

meet then they move them straight into steaks company has

never left sticks. Come He has won all of them and

to me, that is just the sight of a horse.

That is a massive competitor. It'll be interesting.

You're right. Mike because I'm trying to think

of, for example, at Keeneland, a restricted three-year-old races

in October if there's one that might fit big Invasion because

of the connections Christophe Clement will definitely run

horses to Keeneland. And so we might see him this

fall but I think you can get skinny and a couple of legs

here. Big invasion is certainly one of

them but again because it's a Sprint.

And because they're starting with that Hill, something.

A lot of these sources have never done by a lot of these.

I mean, every single freaking horse, in this race has never

done this. It's something where you might

want to spread just a little bit run.

Curtis, run is right next door with Ricardo Santana jr.

Who's already picked off a couple races into twelve percent

at Kentucky down so far the to he and Mike maker the last

couple years at 13% maker. Unfortunately his graded Stakes

numbers are have dropped. So he's under 10% recently in

graded Stakes this horse though. Three runs Here, all of them

hitting the board one and a high-level allowance to of the

others. In graded Stakes company could

eat, could he be the one that jumps up here?

I don't know, sumpter's in this race as well.

The eighth, John Velazquez, Richard Mandela, the two of them

over to a Kentucky down so far, excuse me this year, not just

excited now, but in general usually don't get together.

I don't like Sumpter, by the way, the eight because it's

coming from California, that your courses in California, San

based, and not in are going to be a lot, a lot shorter.

A lot. Lot shorter than what we're

dealing with, it could take you down, so I I would leave

something off your ticket which means that horse will win by 50

and then how it goes, that's usually how it goes.

And it's stitched is just a winner horses coming out of a

couple listed six wins at Canterbury and Indiana and a

horseshoe Indianapolis. They've given this horse a

little bit of time off though. A couple of months off.

I think this is more gratefully trying to get a check for us.

Who hasn't won at this track yet?

I'm picking him up on Josh are closed.

So I mean take this for what it is.

But I do worry that that horse is a little bit out of depth

here so take it for what it is. I do like if he draws in and I

don't know how far down they're going to make them go.

Wow, 12. Okay.

Kind of most goes and also eligible as an Irish horse that

came over and immediately ran right behind big invasion in

third spot at Saratoga going left-handed.

And so I'm interested this horse.

Won some races overseas or won a race overseas in the main level

but has never stepped up into the next level.

Is this, the kind of thing getting back with Joseph

O'Brien, getting back into these kind of these kinds of turquoise

has that'll work out my senses. I'm interested but I probably

wouldn't bet. And then the one that's right

there. Call me midnight.

Oh no is Evans sing? Okay Jose Ortiz else all the 30

said the one not the one horse you're talking about actually

thought I was like yeah just High-level allow its level over

good. Go at Saratoga going five and a

half and this is s off the layoff of as well with this

horse. So if he keeps that form going,

maybe unrestricted company, the 13th worth playing, if he draws

in and I think there's a good chance that he will.

And so yeah, I would lean for sure.

I think that it makes sense. That something that people would

be leading on big Invasion who's just a winner but if not, you

might be able to get some value with maybe an also eligible.

Like I've been saying one and still deleuze point to about,

you know, not race here. There's only one horse.

Who's actually raced in one and that horse is going off at 30 to

1 and that's the for heaven street.

So, you know, in a race like this, where you don't know how

course, you're going to handle the hill and everything else.

It might just work, just throw two dollars down the heaven

Street and see what happens in, or you go with Tyler.

Who's got the experience at the track on a 15 to 1?

Those could be some really good value plays there as well.

Alright. Well hopefully, it's a great day

at could take eons and your to get your green sheet and check

out Louise. Most likely winner, the favorite

he's against and his sequence in the Equals what you're going to

do is again is like pick for the late pick for and we'll see if

we can go for 343 again this weekend and we appreciate you

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