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Golf. I will come in Thursday Edition.

No Big Fudge Edition. Horse racing happier.

Excited though. Because we do get to visit with

friend of the show back for a second second visit already.

Well mr. Your handicap or you might know

him as a sniper I know him as berries.

Berries peers how are you doing good?

How you doing man? Thanks for having me on.

Thanks for jumping back on, always good to see you.

Last time we spoke you were prepping and you did 600 podcast

the week of the Tampa Bay Derby. How did that go?

Yo man, it was so much fun, you know.

For the opportunity to do something like that.

And I think I'll have another shot at it again this year.

So you don't have a good time. Yeah, you know, it's great.

You were like, yo, you guys should have more people like

meeting The Paddock and they were like, okay, we'll call you

blarp. All right, let's go.

They really did. That's exactly what happened.

But I'm okay with that. Yeah, don't for sure.

It was great. And so fun having very back.

I'm going to talk to them on some Cotillion, some

Pennsylvania Derby. Some big races.

Tell you what man would Parks does that they do it.

That's a hell of Picard. This Saturday.

It's a great card. Yeah, should be a lot of fun,

those last six races, for sure, maybe some value earlier in the

car to which is pretty fun, but we got into Derby season last

week. Very here at Churchill Downs.

Took my boys down there to watch the Iroquois.

The Pocahontas, of course to kick off the oak season, kind of

a flip from what we might be used to.

We got Kenny McPeak on the girls side.

We got Tom Davis on the boys side but funny thing we're going

to open the show with an o sound on the curly.

Jack would he be recoil? Not by the replay with Travis

toads, voiceover it. And so let's go ahead and play

that one Zach. I know this is off of their

YouTube page with just doesn't have a have any sound So, curly

Jack comes from a little bit off the pace.

Here I go again and Damons Mound.

Go to the front. Like we expected them to but

those fractions under-23 and three sub 48.

I think we're just a little bit too much for them to figure out

and then curly Jack picks up. The pieces here at the end is

going to come flying up to pick it off with a with Lee who was

on curly Jack in the Iroquois all Edgar Morales.

Man, I want Morales about that a little bit, man, because Tom has

really come to trust Edgar Morales their Really butted at

Horseshoe Indianapolis and now they're doing the the doing the

damn thing and Churchill to picking off a race like this.

Do you make much of these early early two-year-old races very or

do you make just see them sort of as Hang Ten to one on a

really good horse. They're typically I kind of

discount horses that quote unquote Peak too soon like you

know this time of year rather than after the new year.

One thing I do find kind of bizarre is that they don't have

a mile. Race for a two year olds like

that where you know that race I thought probably should have

been one turn mile and then later on you know, go that extra

distance, there was no progression.

It kind of went from you know six-and-a-half furlongs to him.

Yeah. 16th and then that's what you saw.

I think that that's a lot of what you saw with the Two Front

Runners. You know.

They kind of ran that race like they were on older horses.

Yeah and they and they you know they kind of just faded late In

curly, Jack, picked up the pieces, you know, very good

effort by that horse, but, you know, it's hard to know what to

make of these these races, especially, you know, in

September, you know, rather than, you know, January, or

February it becomes a little bit more clear.

But, you know, I wouldn't throw anybody out of that race.

Sure. And I also wouldn't take anybody

at least at this point, you know, the interesting thing is,

you know, we watched an on the Derby Trail last year that That

Jockey Club from November was really predictive of good

turnout. You know why the Barrio comes

out of that simplification comes out of there.

We see, you know, some horses that came out of their head that

to turn experience. Parlay it into good victories on

the Derby Trail, right? And so it's, I'm with you, I

think you see more when you get to November when you get to

maybe you know, those early February races, especially

obviously when the once the horses are three, but yeah,

sometimes September races. Yeah, it's nice.

It's nice to get the win if you're, if you're the owner but

it might be in your best interest.

If you're the owner of one of these horses, men get Now right,

right. Exactly.

Get in and get out, but yeah, you know, I think going those

two turns in the amount of to turn races is really a key,

especially with the three-year-olds when they turn

three, you know, having that Foundation is what gets you

there. I mean, look at epicenter last

year. I mean, you can kind of, you

know, I kind of throw out the, the fluke of Rich strike and

epicenter had the best foundation out of any horse and

he ran like it. Same thing with zanon he was you

know running a good race is long and and just came up a little

bit short but that's what you want to see going into the Derby

season where you go. Alright.

So flipping over to the gals. Will head over to the Pocahontas

mean, no one better with two and three year, old Phillies and

then Kenny McPeak. We saw that a couple years ago

with skydiver. Here is fun and feisty Julie

leopard. Why not?

In front Grant was they sold it his shoulder right off their

turn. They pressed top of the stretch.

They're trying to hang in there. Son and feisty continues to roll

and front-end feisty over the top and to the front shoplifter,

trying to Rally down inside Grandpa gives way with Friendly

Persuasion and boss lady Bailey, but it's fun and feisty and off

the pace when our the pope. So this was an interesting race

to me Barry because you watch other horses kind of Weaving

down that stretch right in the two-year-olds, going to Paris

for the first time. A lot of times they're trying to

find their legs. Are trying to figure that out,

man. She didn't have that issue.

At all she was strong, she was ready to go.

A lot of times we see more consistent Progressive from

Philly's from 2 to 3 than we do from the Colts.

It seems like some of the Colts, just develop so much later.

Some of those fillies figure it out a lot earlier any chance

that she's already figured it out.

Yes, definitely. Definitely a possibility.

I thought that race was a lot more quote, unquote polished

than the than the I thought you liked old race.

Yeah, yeah. Definitely, but I think they ran

into this similar situation situation where you know they

kind of were ridden like they were older horses and and kind

of burnt out the top two I thought Grand Love Actually ran

really, really well. Despite you know what the end

result was if there's anybody that I might like out of this

race, it might be that one funny feisty already has, you know,

kind of look, professional doing it.

Should have a kind of have to keep her in your thoughts, going

forward, but, you know, it's such a crap.

Shoot at this time of year because you'll see horses.

I'm sure come out of that race and just Blossom.

So, you know, it remains to be seen but I think that the

females at this point, look like a better group, I think it sets

up for a fun Breeders Cup in that age group for the juvenile

day, right? There's going to be, it's gonna

be deep in both of those races both in the on the Filly side

and on the cold side. And so I think Will be really

fun. You know, we've been talking the

last couple of weeks, Barry, you know, Flightline solve one of

the issues for which of the races might be the cockiest with

his performance in at the specific classic.

I thought a couple of things that happen that had blown open

the the that sequence in Breeders Cup on Saturday Mallet

that winds up at Saratoga that just have class is wide open.

Just a bunch of really classy Phillies and Mayors and that

group and then frankly, with by heed not coming over for

Breeders Cup. I think the turf is very open

frankly this year, I think we're going to get a bunch of

different Euro shippers Koufos in is gonna form as he's ever

going to be in runs two weeks, all comes back almost wins and

Kentucky freaking Downs of all places and so I think that you

know, so we got kind of a switch, there were white, a bit

by E that was going to be the horse that we were going to use

on the turf and walk away and now we got flight line.

Where are you on some of those races?

You agree with me on say the distaff feels the turf fields.

Um yeah I mean I think A Turf is really contingent upon who comes

over from Europe because those horses have just beaten the

American horses so badly in every opportunity.

I mean, if it was any horse with, you know, the name Apple

be attached to it in some way shape or form.

They were going to win by open lengths.

And I don't think that's changed very much and I don't think it's

going to change on Breeders Cup days.

Just a matter of who shows up, you know, you got horses like,

you know, world like goddess who's very, very Nice.

And, you know, I think it will be interesting.

Hopefully, you know there's another Euro that that kind of

flies under the radar like they did a couple years ago at

Keeneland with a horse order of Australia.

One. Yeah you know drawing in there

was a covid the jockey got covid.

Switched guys come true in and wanted a big price that'd be

nice. But you know, we'll see.

We'll see what the fields look like, ya know, I we actually got

to be there for that for that. But I watched like 100 people in

front of me, just lose their tickets on there.

And then there was one guy front of me that it plunged.

All 14 of them, it had order of Australia, I think he was in at

the third as the always you the 15 that day or something, cuz

you drawn and or something, my buddy, Chuck.

He said, yeah, going to use he was going to use all the euros

and he missed one because of Drew in from the other page, the

rest is history by the way. Talk about truck as I know you

do weekly show with him? Yes yeah you know my partner

Chuck Simon we got a podcast we do every Monday.

It's called a big Monday show going in circles podcast, we do

a little bit of writing, chucked us, some writing as far as Hot

Topics within the industry. I'd say but it's a lot of

opinions and we're not kind of beholden to the to the mass, how

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a great job so I love. Thanks man.

Not argue and so and truck. Truck is a is a really good

writer as well. And so he did a daily blog about

Saratoga this year, for example and that's always a good read

and so if anybody wants to check that out, going in circles, go

check them out. Easy to find for sure.

Oh yeah, he was a podcast. So alright, so I did want to

ask, you know, where are we with this three-year-old class?

Because it's always this time of year that we kind of get to look

back and reflect especially as we go into what I consider to be

the very last of the major three-year-old.

Is Pennsylvania Derby. The Cotillion this weekend.

Where are we? With the three old class?

How good did it end up being? Is it not good?

Do we always think? It's not as good as it really is

because I think there's a tendency in horse racing to kind

of be negative about any group frankly, you know, like if I say

oh yeah the distaff classes wide-open people like it's

because they're not very classy. It's like now they're very

classy get out so you know you got a horse I got the center

doesn't you know doesn't want a classic race comes back.

Robinson in the Traverse you got you know horse like CyberKnife

bunch of grade ones this year. Just a really good horse has

beaten pretty much anyone, you put in front of him, except for

a letter recently, right? You get rich try picking off the

Derby which doesn't bother me. But seems to bother other people

about the pre-roll class. It's just horse racing people,

it's going to be okay. Where are you at on this 30

class will start on the cold side.

I think the Colts are pretty good you know top to bottom.

I think they're pretty good you know Rich strike was kind of an

aberration in the whole mix of things but you know it It kind

of highlights the class in general, they're all kind of

beaten each other and makes for good racing.

There's dust and you know when I guess when we look back there's

you know, you obviously see like oh that horse, never wanted to

go far, things like that, which will shake themselves out but

it's still pretty good horses. I mean, you know, I wouldn't put

this class at the top of all time but I wouldn't definitely

not put it though at the bottom either.

So they're right. You know.

No average. I would say, I think the injured

one of the interesting things I should say.

The one of the is that we're going to get a bunch of these

guys back at 4, right? And so actually, we'll have an

older dirt male class. That's actually good Ibrahim for

a while frankly, right? And so at least another year,

you know, like as and and you can't retire as andin.

Do you think you can really retire a CyberKnife?

I know he's a Gunrunner but like I guess if he wins the

Pennsylvania Derby may be right. But night have I would think he

have to win the Breeders Cup to in order for that to happen.

But yeah, and then I mean it seems like a horse like

CyberKnife is like tailor-made to go to the Pegasus, right?

That's so true. Actually.

Yeah, then you get you then you got these other horses that are

next to your down. You get like a Tawny Port wins,

the Ohio Derby, right? You've got a table who we kind

of. Don't know what he is, because

of all the crap that went on in California.

This year simplifications a nice horse man.

I know you've seen voice right? And yeah, yeah, he's a nice

horse, and he's going to run for a while because he's just, he's

a not this time and I think that, you know, we'll get him

for a little while and so, No, just this I mean is how good is?

Why the Barrio? I don't think your that's a

40,000 dollar purchase. That's a race day cold.

I don't think he's going to the breeding shed this fall.

So we're going to get, yeah. I like a Florida Specialist or

something, but at least, we get to see him next year, right?

Yeah. I don't see anybody, you know,

tearing down the barn, the same when one of those white of

burial baby's coming, but he, you know, he had his time, he

ran really good in the spring and, you know, tailed off a

little bit if he can bounce back.

He, I mean, he's just as good as any.

Buddy on his best day. So that's right.

Yeah. I mean even get like a Skippy

Longstocking wins in the slop at the in the West Virginia Derby.

So he's a great a Stakes Winner puts up, 102 by Iran, that one

so, I mean it's just, it's nice, it's a nice group.

I haven't even mentioned like we the people who robbed the

Belmont and honestly, I mean, with this field on Saturday,

maybe you disagree. But like a we the people and

that's a horse to me that if he's if he's on his form and he

goes out front with what with Lobby and stays out front, I

would be I wouldn't be shocked. It is no way.

Shop. Right, exactly.

He's fast enough to win. There's not a whole heck of a

lot of speed in that race. So why not, if you like him go

ahead. You know.

Hopefully there's worsted horse horses to pick and you probably.

Yeah that's right. Other thing I was like you're

gonna probably going to get close to 10 to 1.

Yeah sold over that if lobbying at 12:50 man that's a sounds

like a deal to me so I so let's Yeah, let's we're totally

frozen. So my there.

There you go. Back, are there we go.

This happens once a day. So Barry.

I'm sorry. There we go.

You know, that the three year olds and then you've got a bunch

of others, you've got a nest at the top, you've got, you know, a

couple of those fillies running this weekend in the Cotillion.

Secret oath, I don't know that. We know how good a day or manner

is right? You know, in Interstate,

Daydream picks off the black-eyed.

Susan comes back runs in the Indiana Oaks that kind of thing.

I think less deep of a three-year-old Phillies class

that we've had the last couple of years, but still very good at

the top. Oh yeah, very, very good at the

top. You know Nest, she just just

came into her own, you know, I saw her run in a comeback race

at Tampa and she was just You could tell she just stood out,

she was just better than what she was running against in, you

know, secret oath. Had a great campaign run against

boys and the in the Arkansas Derby.

I mean, it's like you said, it's very top-heavy, but the others

aren't that far behind, you know.

So that's why the, you know, the Breeders Cup is going to be very

interesting for them because, you know, the the good ones are

the ones near the top have. She had a pretty good campaign

better than I would normally think in a year.

Usually they don't run this much but they've been knocking heads

have been going against each other which is another good

thing so you know hopefully we can get a new shooter in there

and grab your rice. Yeah for sure.

No even a even a slightly off the board horse maybe a goddess

of fire continues her good form you know John also just doesn't

like to win. That's the only thing it's so

strange, right? Yeah.

Maybe maybe Johnny can get her. Get her to figure it out.

You know, Iran's on an Arresting horse in Greenup.

She's been rounded up Parks, right?

Going the two turns. Can she stretch out just a

little bit? Be a little bit faster.

I don't know against this company.

Probably not. But, but like I said, I mean,

like in a dare manner, you know, I mean, it's hard to know, you

know, the, you know, especially Uncle Mo babies, they can do

anything they want, but, you know, is Bob baffert got her

training the right way. She's certainly following that

classic sort of backward pattern of the 5656 and her case you

would 57 for a long workout. The other day, at Del Mar, a

bullet, the other day at Santa Anita, so she'll be ready.

Go. It's just an interesting class.

I think, you know, like I said, at the very top, very good.

Once you get into the middle of it, little less than I think

we've been used to actually be kind of spoilers.

Think about we've spoiled with the, the Phillies like recently

man like that just have classes just good for that reason.

But in the same vein, again like the three-year-old Colt side, I

think 30 Filly side, we can see a lot of them is four and

five-year-olds, which is fun. Yeah, that's gonna be great.

I mean, that's what it's horseplayers.

We've been clamoring for for a while, you know, everybody would

run, you know, six seven times. As a three-year-old and then

retire and it and it kind of gets old.

So, you know, having these horses stick around is is what

the sport needs. And, you know, some some name

recognition behind everything goes a long way.

The cool thing to happens, you know, they get 24 and they go.

Okay, dear Mentor. Maybe she's better at 74.

A long as we see her, turn into a sprinter and she's great at

that. And, you know, like a secret oil

stays at 2 turns, that kind of thing.

Maybe after Hama, who, who's a deep closer figures, I actually

like her, I don't like her on Saturday.

Yeah, came back while the moment of folks last time out and so

see if she can continue that form.

But let's get into this carbon and we tell you every week, on

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So, yeah. And that, that boosted even if

it goes a little chalky on us, we probably get a good payout on

that. And so that starts in the ninth

race in the ninth race, this weekend is the turf monster.

It's a great three. Five furlongs on the turf for

three-year-olds and up 300K in the pool here.

I mean, Like I said, Barry 2.8 million dollars in his last five

races at parks. They're doing.

They're doing the damn thing on Saturday, so that'll be a lot of

fun. What do you did you?

I thought this one was either or race.

You either have to go real skinny here and take a chance or

this is one of your spread racism is funny.

I actually went right in between that a little bit.

Okay. You know the horse that I would

I would single in this race would be.

That's right. The one horse but Just don't

think that horse wants anybody next to her?

I think the real stuff or to him.

Yeah. Well the rails.

Okay, you know because the horse is fast enough to get out but if

you look at the past performances on July 17th, June

17th of May 20th easy leads and one going away by five twice and

then by three lengths, the third time, any time this horse gets

headed or somebody's really close tends to fold up like a

lawn chair. So I'm going to go with the lawn

chair. On Saturday and I'm just going

to not use that horse at all. I ended up, you know, liking the

the for nothing better. And number five, Uncle Ernie who

doesn't have a start on the turf, but I thought it was kind

of strange which strange in a good way that Joel Rosario ends

up here for John service, who's you know, a career, 20 plus

percent trainer, right. Exactly, he knows what he's

doing. Yes, he's getting us.

This horse isn't the first time for this, right?

And he gets top Rider. So I'm going to have to throw

that one in there to you and I laid it on the same to here.

That's awesome. Nothing better.

What really stood out to me berries that this is an every

other type right? And this is the every other try

to make another last time. Didn't like them.

I'll bring them back to the five and a half for a Long's.

Has love that to in the last three times that he ran that

kind of distance. Frankly, his one loss in that

group was at five furlongs over. Good, go at Monmouth.

We're going to be Good and firm. By the time we get to Saturday

at parks only lost by two that day.

Anyway I think at that distance, nothing better actually have

that horse on top, totally agree about Uncle Ernie and for many

of the same reasons, John Services numbers Turf to you

know, dirt to Surf, not great but I don't think this one's an

accident. This feels like he feels like he

knows something about this horse, bringing in Joelle,

especially the two of them going to pair up here for the first

time in a very long time. Frankly, but yeah, I'm with you,

I think for definite place, This is like a prime spot to do

something like that because this field, isn't it all that great?

You know, for what's deemed to be a gradient.

Very, that's right. Right.

And you know, curious person. Yeah.

And honestly behind let's say the one and probably the four

There's not really much in here. Even the outside horses, they

don't look all that imitating. Or, you know, why not take a

shot with a horse who hasn't run on the turf before that could

theoretically run. Well I mean the horse is

definitely fast enough. If this was on Dirt To Source

probably be you know, second third choice.

Yeah, I agree. So I I think that horse do rates

a big shot especially if he can get out something I really like

is Andy Hernandez a staying on. That's right here.

And young jockey Michael Moore sticking with him.

Everyone's in town. He could have tried to get it,

you know, get in touch with an agent.

And get someone else on this horse.

And he said, no, no, no. The best jockey for this horse

is the one that's been on him and I always appreciate those

kinds of things. Yeah.

When a trainer says no, no, this is my guy.

I'm sticking with a dear and and as the two of them, by the way,

he is at parks 25% together, the last sixty three times out.

And so obviously they've got something going there as well.

The Gallup Bob is the next race in this sequence?

It is a grade 2. It's over the dirt course.

For a launch for three-year-olds, three hundred

thousand dollars. It's great to like I mentioned

here, I feel like this year Barry and maybe it's just

because I haven't been paying. As I said there are a lot of

three-year-old sprint races that are graded too many to be

honest. I'm with you.

Yeah and I'm not sure. Do you think this is a great to

field? No, yeah, I know I agree with

you on that as well. It's a great three- to me but

they're going to get G to money. Did you land on anybody here

know? This is, this is definitely a

spread Racer for me either II. One thing I did know, as I

didn't want any part of provocateur, even though, you

know, this horse has beaten a few of these and just nothing to

grab onto their. I just, you know, if this is the

big stage, I'm not sure a provocateur or provocateur

really wants wants to be in the spotlight.

And, you know, there's a, there's a few Alternatives here,

one of, which is the a Twitty And if you take out that horses,

August 23rd race at a - 16th and the June third race at Penn and

a mile on the turf, which softer, right, soft Turf.

Yeah. But she lost by 34 lengths that

day, and then on August 23rd, and losses, losses by 13 and

finished seventh, both times. If you take those out of the

PPS, and you just look at those races that are left, this horse

Stacks up with anybody in Here. Yeah, I'll get a huge price I'm

to 12 to 1, right? Because of the connections,

everything else this horse is going to be you know quite a big

price or bigger than the morning line.

Another one that I liked a little bit as Lightning Larry,

he's been keeping pretty good company.

Even up to the went to the point where he won the chick Lang back

in May Give him a pass for the last one.

It was it was the comebacker seems to be training for leaders

a bullet there at a Monmouth on the 17th of September.

So all systems are go 12:52 Morning Light.

Seems a little bit High. I agree with you but you know

I'll still take five to one. Yeah especially with a Jorge

Delgado. I mean like that guy on the east

coast to me get going I do like the 11 akka told me.

Here it is 922 we get your well though Wesley Ward this horse

they tried it. Ask it actually Comes back runs

and Wednesday runs. Excuse me, in the Saratoga

special first time back, give the horse a bunch of time off

wins first time out at Churchill over the dirt.

And and so maybe they figured it out with this horse has been

training at Keeneland recently over five furlongs West toward

brings us horses. Back off of a layoff like this

at 25 percent. So I really like the angle

there. I went to the outside as well.

521 and Scaramouche. That's John Velazquez and

Guadalupe preciado. Horse is a local local Runner.

These cases Barry's sometimes I just look at the X runs last

time wins. Open legs, a minute, ten and

five furlongs are six Furlong. Excuse me is a winning time,

right? That just is yappin right away.

If you can run a buck ten in that spot, the horse was in the

Four Hole. Coming out of the six is going

to be able to break from the outside and I'll have to do a

traffic that way. And so if the horse can break

well and get there I think the 14s a problem and then I also

like the eighth in this race. I think you mentioned already

witty. So Carol cedeno of people don't

know is Multiple graded Stakes placed jockey has made over a

million for this year in purses. This isn't, you know, sometimes

you have to dig when you get to these tracks that you don't you

don't frequent all the time. You might not be a Parks player

but you got to get into people that have paid, you know, and

pay their dues here. 21% already at this meeting of the two of

them hitting two out of three so far at this meat, which is

pretty fun to Parks 40 percent overall when they do hook up.

And so I'm with you man. I think Woody's that he put here

and I love the lightning Larry angle there.

I think you're totally right about that give the Torso a

little Of time off for Hills Elgato does that as well as

anyone at 24%. And so I only have one thing

about this one. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

She's the chick lines up. That's a serious.

That's how I remember that race because

I picked that horse for the chick Lang.

Nice. And I was at Epcot that day,

Does it have cut on Preakness day?

It was, it was my daughter's birthday.

There you go. So we were hanging out and I was

trying to catch signal so I can watch the race while while we

were in line for Ratatouille. So what can I say?

My dad, the the 11 not kotomi. Yeah, the only thing I actually

liked this horse but the only thing that kind of scares me a

little bit, is if you look he's only run six times.

Yeah, no for sure for of those times.

Ames Tad, slow step slow. Slow start dwelt.

I need that list field, you're right?

Yeah that's that's my only apprehension about that horse

but you know when the horse starts running he starts running

right? I mean and like we mentioned

about this is not a great to field and so you know, right?

Get it going. If he gets running, he'll be

fine. So exactly how much you made.

All right, so the grade one Cotillion is the next race.

It's race. 11 starts the late pick three here.

If you are out of your pic 5, by that point, by the 16th on the

dirt, obviously for three-year-olds, Phillies

million bucks on the line. Here I am.

A big fan of when the Philly races, get the same purses as

the Colt races. So it's good to see that here at

parks like big fan because frankly, the Phillies a make our

sport when they get older. So good to us Spotlight them

when they're three years old, major players shipping.

And for this one obviously for the persevere manner comes in

from California. We could cause a fire down from

New York gerrymanders coming in, of course, out of the New York

circuit one, the Mother Goose earlier this year at the

distance. Secret oath coming in,

obviously, secret oath was your Kentucky Oaks winner this year,

huge. Up here very, very fun.

Probably our last really good. Three year old Filly race over

to turns this year. Did you land on one horse?

He rode you land on several honestly, I thought it was a two

horse races. Seems like a dairy manner, I

like quite a bit here. If I was going to single horse

that's who I would. Okay.

But secret oath is right there. I mean there they stood out to

me by far and then you know the horse that Might throw in like,

on a couple of combinations of tickets, along with the two

would be the seven shama? Yeah.

Okay. I think that horse has some some

potential here really close to kind of breaking through and I

think this might be the race to do it.

Jehovah's also really fast like really fat helps.

It does comes over here and immediately runs into Kentucky,

Oaks not a bad finish, frankly considering the conditions this

year over that wet fast surface comes back to the Mother Goose

is right there. Finish the second by three likes

wins again in the the bottom of folks with you that might be Off

the board play here. There's a chance of Flavia in

private rooms. A bunch of tickets this weekend

because that's the horses that are in some interesting spots

but you're right because 141 over my on the 16th that can win

this race this weekend. Oh yeah.

So I mean you know one thing I can I could make a downgrade on

secret oath and just kind of saying that she might be a

little worn out. But right, she got beat by Nest,

open lengths, twice, you know, and everything beat everybody

else. Pretty easily, exactly, right?

So, you can't really, you know, counter out the coach, you know,

he runs his horses which I like, yeah, and that's just not in

this race that he did. Give her a little bit of a

little bit over a month off here, actually did between races

here. So maybe she will be ready to

go. I landed on 62 as well.

I just don't, I'm with you. There's something about a dare

manner that I can't. I can't quite put my finger on

but I think that she's going to run a big race and so fast.

She's so fast, man. It's like super fast.

Yeah. That's why I really I wonder if

eventually she doesn't become a 1 turn mile or seven Furlong

kind of horse because she breaks so well she's comfortable out

near the lead and so it'll be interesting to see if that's

where they go with her. But she's got that Uncle Mo

breeding. So the two terms makes sense and

that's why I'm not a horse trainer.

All right. So that's why these are be time

million bucks on the line here, for three-year-olds Mile and an

eighth on the dirt. This is a grade 1 and frankly, I

think one of the berry best three-year-old Colt Fields we've

had this year, I think this is a very fun race, a bunch of horses

that have shown, that they are absolutely top-notch.

We've got three, four, four horses with 100 plus buyer

figures on this race. Barry, where did we land on the

Pennsylvania? Derby is a chalky is, or a long

shot here. What do you think?

Yeah, it looks. It looks a little bit chalky

little talk. I think tabo's probably the best

horse in the race and I think CyberKnife is probably the

second best. Horse in this race.

Although I like CyberKnife a little bit better only because,

you know, he kind of showed a little bit of a better Dimension

I thought in the Haskell. Yeah, even though he didn't go

to that tactic in the Traverse, I still think he's grown up a

little bit and he's coming to his own and I think this is a

perfect spot for him. Same thing with table, he

probably just needs he's racing. That's that's really his Is only

you know the only knock again against them as he hasn't really

run all that much. He's run four times, run three

of those four were 100-plus buyers.

So I mean he obviously can run And in may not even need to be

that good in order to beat this field.

Yeah, it's interesting. I I'm always fascinated by

horses like CyberKnife because we watch them do it over and

over again. Yet we seem to have questions

about them. I don't know.

I can't think top of my head about another horse that kept

doing that but it was, you know, where he really hasn't run a bad

race. I mean, if you look at it,

that's his lecompt was Like out of nowhere, just crazy.

And it was, that's true. The second time he had blinkers,

I don't know what they were trying to pull, but it doesn't

it. And then the other time was the

Derby. I mean, you can, you can always

forgive the Derby. It's like, if you're not up in

the front, it's just a nightmare.

And then he the company out of the Derby and ran great Whitmore

ran dead last in the derby. That horse is fine.

Look right? It's okay, exactly.

I've sent one to you but that cup that shows all the last

place finishers in the derby. So damn fine horses on that

come. Yeah, yes.

Right. Sometimes just draw a line

through the Derby I'm with you. I think it's very short for me

on my tickets. I'm going 85 on the tickets.

I do think though, because I'm not sure there's going to be a

ton of pace. If lobbying, can get, We the

People rated properly High 20 like 23 and 447 and for that

kind of thing. I think there's Junia.

Small inkling suffering. Yeah, because you know, he's on

paper going to be the speed. Yep.

And they're not really going to be going fast, but he didn't

really go. All that fast in the West

Virginia Derby, and he got beat the problem for him.

Is that tables in this race? And table will sit right on his

hip. And right, that's the issue and

not go away. Correct.

That's right. That's exactly it.

Yes, it's no actually. I thought this race had a real

upside for Betts the worst Naval aviator.

I thought was really interesting at a price.

He's actually you know, I don't think there's any way that horse

can win. It has to really be like be us

super mad scramble up front. They go you know 44 110 and

that'll win. I mean I guess it's possible

Rich strike can get those kind of fractions that's right.

Yeah yeah barring that happen. I don't think Naval aviators

gonna be on, you know, a threat to win but I do think this horse

can hit the board. At a price and I know the sort

is going to be a big price. But I mean, you know, we I think

we could go through this race and if I said, hey

simplification hits the board we'd be like yeah.

Sure. I actually Maria know what, a

deeper ticket. I'm going to use.

We the people and simplification for sure.

Yeah, I'm a on this show. At least, we are.

We're big fans of Antonio. So know we think he's a really,

a really interesting guy and so it would be great if I if he

could pick one of these off simplification.

By the way, is the only horse in this field with a plus 100.

Plus 100 early late time for it's time for Speed figure.

So that To run early, he can run late, he's capable of doing it

all. So look for him.

I think he hits the board here even attend to one.

I think he's an interesting spot here, most interested in a horse

like Tawny Port because once in a while in Kentucky, we just

have to say I'm betting the other Brad Cox in the east

coast. You have I'm betting the other,

Chad Brown, you know, and so it's a it'll be interesting to

see how his horses come in, but I was there the other day when

CyberKnife worked at Churchill and that is the easiest 101 that

I've ever seen in my life. I mean I mean he He's jogging.

So if he's in that kind of form, I think he'll be okay on

Saturdays. Okay, yeah, there you go.

Little eyes on the horses. There you go.

Hey, going on the ground, on the ground journalism, there you go.

And the last on the street last race of the day, I love, I love

that. This is the last one, this is a

state bread handicap, called the alphabet soup.

Handicapped, by the way, horse racing undefeated in Stakes race

names. Alphabet soup is a terrific name

for a race. It really is my 0 to 60.

Going to get back on the turf. Here for Pennsylvania, breads, 3

and up 200k on the line here. Barry, I am a believer that if

you see a horse carrying more weight than other horses, that's

the best horse in the race. What say you about the alphabet

soup handicap with you? I think if I'm gonna if I'm

going to single horse, is going to be the one.

Yeah, you stop right? Especially dropping back in,

just a bread company. That's the key.

You know, he Nate State breads back in June at Penn.

This field isn't much different than that one top to bottom.

I think it's pretty much kind of like the same field and he

dominated that one. There's no reason he can't

dominate on Saturday. Yeah, I think the only other

ones you look at here are the six and seven who will finish

together, midnight haulers, the six and you must chill is the

seven. I'm always interested though an

interesting angle to watch with these kinds of races of the guys

who come in from out of state, who sticks around for the last

race, right? AC, I read on the three in with

John service, another horse that really doesn't run on tariff.

Right? And all I can see in my head,

all I can see is I read getting to the lead and wiring this

field, that's at a decent price and that would hurt my feelings.

But you won't be shocked by it. Of course no.

But it wouldn't. I already had it mapped out in

my head. So yeah, if l'orange who sticks

around for Stonegate the to write.

I mean, once in a while you see these little these little things

at the end, I'm sure the the local Jacks are like.

Come on man. Let me get, let me get the 200k

race, get out of here Paco Lopez is on the the eight crisper.

I don't think of Paco Lopez is being non-local for Parks or

Monmouth or whatever. Runs a lot there.

But yeah, it's an interesting race.

I'm With You by land and sea. The one I think is easily the

class here runs at Saratoga Bellman Aqueduct Etc against

open company. Comes back to stay breaded at

pain over a crappy. Go I'm shocked.

They ran that race on grass by the way wins by 6 and 3/4 length

and so should be interesting. The only interesting thing is

floppy and didn't jump back on this horse for this race.

Kind of expected to see him at the end of the day but but

Sanchez and Guadalupe preciado. Thing together at 23% of parks,

and that's probably a good reason to have him on them out

here. So my pic 5, by the way, is 72

bucks for this sequence with 100K guaranteed, I think there'd

be a nice return on about $72 sequence here and so Barry any

other parting shots here for us, as we get, I mean, we're getting

into the, the mud of the season because before Breeders Cup, if

there's a reason, everyone loves Kalin.

By the way, is because they're like, oh, it's Keeneland.

It's pretty the Racing's not. Great.

But hey, it's something right. Hey, see, I've never been the

key Lanai. I gotta go.

So I can experience it. Everybody tells me it's

fantastic and it looks like it on TV.

So I gotta I gotta try that out. So our buddy John from from

Green Sheet wanted to know. He's like, so berries coming on

that's great. Florida guy right to see a

squirrel guy said, what's his home track?

And was like, I don't know what Barry calls his home track.

You know, it's crazy because I'm Almost directly equidistant from

each, right? So where I live, there's there's

just a dog track that is all grown in its grass now, but

they're still, it's still an OTB in a poker room, but Tampa is

two hours away from me and Gulf Stream is three hours away.

Okay. Just in different directions.

Yeah, so Championship me to Gulfstream then you had that a

for their me, right? I do it all the time.

Where does that all winter long? When you're little it's easy,

right? It was Churchill.

What are we doing, right? If you do, if you live in

Lexington with its Kayla, it's easy, you know?

And so, I think the only spot my favorite thing of when people

talk about their home, trash barrels, that varies that they

like the Long Island. Guys, all over my all Belmont

Belmont do, do they act like Aqueduct doesn't exist?

But, you know, those dudes are at Aqueduct, like 30 times or

yeah. Of course.

They are. We doing everything forest,

fires, exactly. What are we doing?

Where are you on the Belmont? At Aqueduct Beach, they have

just called it Aqueduct. Of course, it's exactly.

Nobody cares. I guess, I guess it's a, it's a

marketing thing in, you know, they did a little market

research to say that if it was still Belmont, it would handle

higher and it may be true. I mean, subconsciously, who

knows? But is it exactly, that's to me,

that's performances that they're like, not counting Aqueduct runs

for horses, that are running at awkward.

I know that. And with the prison at ones o do

the the drf, had it the right way where it was it was just

Aqueduct. It just had to be a queue, got

it PA que Ya that's all print the T-shirt.

Sell me a be a cute t-shirt. They need to because you know

they got rid of the the inner dirt and now they have Belmont

an aqueduct, we need a shirt for that too.

How long till the header Poly track at Belmont, you think?

Within five years. Yeah, I think you're right.

They got the space, right? That's the difference.

Like those New York tracks are so huge.

I got so much space. I think the plan is to get rid

of Aqueduct and run it Belmont and then just Belmont and

Saratoga. But they need a different

surface for that, but a january-february sort of thing

right time to time. Yeah, it's one of the reasons.

I mean, I don't know if you play it but I mean I think it's why

turquoise so interesting up here because you know it allows that

winter racing and I think it's Nature's Way.

I'm with you man I think it's a really love it.

Yeah, love it. Yeah I can't wait.

It's a fair product. I think they do a great job and

mean the field sizes. They get.

I mean and frankly, I mean I've heard rumors the maidens.

And up to 70 this year, I was talking with a trainer the other

day who has been going to Louisiana for years, isn't going

this year's. It's going to stay here.

Kids don't have to move. I mean that kind of stuff.

I don't blame them, maybe the money or their they run for days

a week man. What are we doing?

And frankly on that surface, you can run your horses back in two

weeks and it's awesome. So it's the best.

I'm really, I'm glad you Clubhouse and everything.

The new grandstand looks really nice.

Yeah, it's beautiful for service and I and you know, people are

Complaining. Because the OTB room isn't very

big. That's not why I go to the track

typically. Not only so many TVs.

You can fit in one room. Yeah.

Right. I mean, aristides room at

Churchill Downs is really nice. I'm never in there.

Like that's not why I go to the truck.

But anyways, all right. Well, I'll let you get out of

here man. Any any parting shots of?

Go ahead and pop the the podcast one more time.

Yeah yeah. The going in circles podcast big

They every Monday myself, Chuck Simon, you see my Twitter handle

a turban handicapper. You rbn handicapper, see me

there all day every day. Yeah, and I have to applaud

Barry because I think that he's done a really great job of being

Unapologetic about who it is that should be involved in horse

racing especially in shows like this and man no.

And I mean it because because when you go to Churchill, You

know, Barry were talking about this the other day I was there

with my kids on Saturday and they're redoing the paddock and

and I hate to use a word like segregate, but they're

segregating the paddock at Churchill Downs.

Oh yeah, I see what they do, the plan for it and one of the best

things about being at the paddock at Churchill Downs.

Has you might there's there's the owner and then the like the

50 year old plumber. And then, like the Ford worker

and the and then someone like that, we're all just hanging out

the same spot. While Chad, we all have the same

knowledge about Says we're all doing the thing and I think you

do a good job of making sure that people are aware.

That the, the fans of the sport. Don't necessarily look like the

people on TV about this part. So, thanks man, I appreciate

it's good, it's good that people notice and that's really all,

you know, if you see it and like, oh well, that makes sense

right next step is to do something about it.

Now. That's right.

We've done a good job of spotlighting, the women who are

good in this sport. Yes, absolutely time that we

keep Spotlight other people as well.

So, all right, well, his name is Barry.

He is the urban handicapper. He's the Sniper, we told the

sniper story last time since you didn't follow us.

Last bring shame on you. I will do it next time but we'll

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