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Welcome to another edition of the horse-racing.

Happy hours. So lightly Stakes race addition

to the horse racing? Happy hour.

You don't lot less handicapping. Lots more Breeders Cup talk.

Let's go. Yeah, yeah, lot more issue.

Let's talk about alcohol and drinking and cigars.

Let's do it. How are you doing today?

And I'm fine. Ran the kids over to get some

pizza tonight and Chef Scott little chef Scott tonight.

Make those delicious hot brown Pizza.

I had a hot brown 7 Pizza tonight.

That's right. That's what she said.

Are we the only horse racing show?

That would say, that's the name of your sex tape on my signage.

Hot brown. Yes, yeah, I don't know.

Not sure. I don't listen to a lot of other

words, raising shows up. That's pretty cheap to you.

All right. But yeah, I'm a, we were told,

hey, now, the Cooper's craft again, this week birds are last

week, hanging out with the 82 proof.

There we go. You know, we're going to you

next week, right? With the, with the Cooper's

crash. Moving up to 100.

No, besides that. What's next week in Louisville,

is it? I hang on his it up Old Fashion

Week. It is Old Fashion Week in

Louisville and of course, I'm like sold Fashions.

People, I love old Fashions and I made a great old-fashioned so

we'll be making an old-fashioned.

That's fair. We will be making old Fashions

live on the show and talking about Old Fashion Week.

Who got a little deer action. There was a little shot of beer

tonight, that's kind of the mood.

If you're the beer that are you dropping the shot of whiskey in

the beer, not doing that. But little 82, proof bourbon

nine-and-a-half not a half percent beer, so we're a little

heavy and it's gonna be good. Okay good.

Alright, it's good night, that's good.

Like take Louise keys, he will drink, we promote drinking

responsibly on this show. There you go.

So, do we want to talk about all the other kind of adulting

things we did today. Oh, did we adult the oh, I guess

we did it all today. Go ahead all.

Thank you. Can you can start us.

Well, we got it looks like we got everything lined up for our

Breeders Cup stuff. So we will be live at Keeneland.

We're going to bring our boys Zach along with us and we will

have will bring our own horse to the previous gun.

And this will be joined us for our live shows.

You will from from the Breeders Cup.

Okay, up, be honest. Like growing up in Kentucky, did

you ever think you'd do a horse racing?

A horse again podcast with Dan Issel possible say that that

would never thought. Yeah.

At the Breeders Cup. Like it's interesting because I

think I'd probably would have said that there would've been a

lot of those different elements that would have independently

been true. Like I would have met Dan Issel.

Sure. Or I would have done a horse

racing podcast at the Breeders Cup, but then all that together

is kind of like just the the state of where we are, you know,

it's just it's just walking the path, right?

Like we started off and I got to talk to my boy DJ Clark today.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

A EJ never would have never would have been able to we're

getting some weird the Breeders Cup dry hump your leg okay?

Someone was a fan of son twitch because that's where all the

cool kids are and get a lot of good comments on there.

Yeah, but yeah, I mean EJ is the kind of guy that helped me get

this thing rolling. Get started in horse racing,

which we looked at like was over a decade ago because we applied

for the national Thoroughbred writers.

Turf National Turf writers and broadcasters today.

With all the other, we will bring down the average age of

that group. It might be the oldest thing

I've ever done. Yeah.

Yeah, that might be it. Yes, but I was going to the

podiatrist, it's one of the oldest things I've ever done.

Yeah. It's either that or it's like,

you know chicks like Gabby God debt.

So and I have a feeling that we had About it.

So we'll see what happens there. Yeah.

Breeders Cup all taken care of our boy, Jim gluck's, and who's

always just really good and kind is really good.

Yeah. And the people human like we

were talking about earlier Louis are awesome and I'm going to be

a function behind the scenes. There are killer folks for sure.

They all there's your don't end up working at Keeneland by

accident is essentially what I would say, 100% right?

Yeah, yep. So I'm going to be out there

tomorrow. I'm excited.

We're going to talk a little bit about those stakes races.

Well, one the, there's a Stakes race tomorrow, and then there's

a Stakes race on Saturday. Talk about those and great read

a great one at Keeneland this weekend.

Yeah, they're doing. It's gonna be great.

And, of course, Old Fashion Week officially starts tomorrow

because only people who drink a lot of bourbon would say, the

week should start on a Friday and actually last like 13 days

but that's, you know, that's what it is.

It is little, what else we got? Louis, what else?

Anything else, not a whole lot. We just got a lot of really good

performances last week. That confirmed a lot of things

about the different Breeders Cup classes.

And so, I think we should Get into those a little bit.

I think we may have learned something about the key litter

of course to which is fun and good set this up, well, for this

weekend hopefully, and write my pick.

What's that early speed? Yes, especially on the turf

course. Yeah, get out front staff for a

kind of stuff, but I buy my sequence in the sheet tomorrow

and greet your a si.com is going to be the altar of pick three.

So we're going to play that. It's three dollar.

Minimum 15 percent take out. I think I think you'd pay once

in a while so we're hoping to hit it for, you know.

And that's on Saturday Saturday's race.

That's for Saturday's that includes Liberation, Queen

Elizabeth the second. So which will be extra special

this year. Yeah, it will be yeah, yeah.

So we will Yeah, we'll get into you know she just passed away,

right? Like you, did you miss all of

that? And she, who is she?

Again, she was cheese to be the queen of England and she the

woman who took the box for my uncle and Aunt at yes.

That's right. Yeah, yeah.

That's how I remember, yeah. Okay.

Stealing from my family holding a grudge.

All right, there we go from life.

All right, let's let's start with in Italians Turf win.

She going going wire to wire in the first lady.

So this is the grade one. First lady presented by UK

Healthcare were Chris Rodriguez, never worked but that's Italian

leads off. The parts are Mild to go

technical analysis. Vigilantes way to the inside

Regal glory is still forth from the outside.

Eighth of a mile to go and Italian leads it by 2.

Here Comes Regal Glory taking aim but she still second

technical analysis. Third in Italian to length lead

16th to go Regal. Glory is second in Italian,

Regal glory, in Italian and French, and Italian, for Joelle,

Rosario to Win. It Regal Glory home s going to

be closed for third either Prince.

The my favorite four year old female torture force in Italian

looks pretty well now. But now you know, when we were

going to talk a little bit later today, literally about the

Breeders Cup races and there's some early odds out that Ron

flatter always puts out. Yeah, in Italian, I don't

believe is listed even in that race on the odds.

But, I mean, obviously, she's going to stay out.

And, and Kaitlyn, you would think they really became Linda

trilling charge of the Filly and mare turf.

So will we look to see her there?

And I think she's a player in that race.

I mean, especially that smile. If you can get out front, stay

out front. That's a style that could win in

any kind of company, for sure. That's, yeah, absolutely.

All right, we're going to move onto another great.

You think that you want to add? I guess we you know you are the

expert analysis person who don't go to say about her.

No, just it was surprising to see Regal Glory, frankly, never

part of the equation because her last three I think steaks prior

to that, we're all in restricted to Filly and mare company and

she was great. Great.

The only time she had previously lost was against the boys and so

those surprising to see her frankly, not in a position to

even challenge at the end there. We look, excuse me in it, in

Italian, that much better. And so, that was the only thing

that kind of caught me off guard, but frankly, it probably

speaks to how well in Italian sets up for that group.

If it's going to be a bunch of European style closers in that

group, and she can be the front runner, then she's going to be

an absolute include on Breeders Cup Saturday.

All right, so we're going to move on to the the next X race

that we saw in it. And it's interesting to me

because I'm kind of critical of juvenile day at the Breeders Cup

because typically we just we don't see a lot of these horses

moving forward. This is a horse that you and I

both witnessed live when they're Breeders Cup race and continues

to perform, right? So this is gold is one of the

two best performances of the weekend.

Authentic getting out front staying out.

Front in the classic was the other one but golden Powell.

That that Ed was Meg impressive. It was Megan oppressive here

too. Alright, so going pal, winning

the great to Woodford. Then fourth position Oceanic has

to go wide nearly ten from the front back and fifth.

They turn for home, golden pal, the leader, golden pal, leading

gear, jockey leads it by Three Lakes and then our team of City

Limits. His third, charcoal is fourth

down toward the inside bad beat Brian next toward the outside,

they're all behind gold and pal, gold and Palette 3.

Length lead final sixteenth golden, pelled in front late,

charge more Tema city limits. Golden pal wins it.

Golden pal. Just incredible right there,

right? I mean I think another half for

a long that horse still wins. I mean like that's that's how

good that is. Yeah there's this horse get the

credit that he deserves. I mean like this horse is going

to go into the Breeders Cup Turf Sprint.

One the receptor Sprint, the year before that one, the

juvenile charged spent the year before that.

So has already won the Breeders Cup race over this Keelan.

Turf course. Yes, right.

I think for do now that Caitlyn he well, this horse has only

lost his first race. I mean, winter, so it's you.

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, straight.

And I mean, we don't tip and lots of great to Great threes.

The only grade one. Is that breeders inductor spent

last year? Is that what holds this horse

back from us talking about it being one of the great horses

right now. Like I just don't feel like it,

maybe it slightly race. What do you think, Louis?

I mean this I don't know. I think that the turf Sprint

class just isn't sexy to people. Yeah, for some reason I love it.

I think it's one of the most unpredictable so for horse to

dominate the class the way the golden pal has.

I've seen some criticisms like well yeah Golden Palace running

in Kentucky so of course Golden Bell showed up on it's like if

you would at Keeneland on the term for your good turf or semi

period, that's just how that is and so I don't I don't totally

understand the criticism if the criticism is like horse goes out

to California and isn't great, I guess I'll listen but know that

horse I think doesn't get as much criticism as your kind of

suggesting but I'm not saying This is mm.

I just don't think he gets enough praise maybe.

Yeah I think I Turf Sprint class is just kind of undervalued okay

but that horse is a if not a single cam Breeders Cup day,

it's going to be really damn close.

So all right listen to any breaks faster me.

It does everything right at Keeneland so it's gonna be hard

to imagine and hopefully another horse on that dock at that's

going to push. So, yeah, because I would say,

also, the Sprinter class of the European horses is probably

their weakest classes but you agree with that left-handed.

Enters. Yes.

Yes. All right so we're going to look

now at Annapolis has big run in the Keeneland Turf mod the great

one, teaming, teaming, Turf, mile beating my horse.

I've are all right, let's watch Annapolis here inside then a gap

of two to order of Australia in the fourth position starts.

Looking for more Running Room, Kasich Creed winding up down the

center of the course. Here's Annapolis looking for

room Mesa, still has the lead Here.

Comes Annapolis order of Australia's right there cause to

create on the far outside. Drops back Annapolis puts a hand

in front order of Australia. I bar is running late, it is

Annapolis with the lead order of Australia Ivar, is, there it is

Annapolis and front. It is Annapolis to win.

The cool more Turf Mi 3. All right.

Louie is that performance enough to make Annapolis the favorite

in the turf. Mi heard also just a mile.

I'm so the dirt my Lord. I don't mind.

You calling it. The turf mile.

I wish they would distinguish but anyways, no, this is where

the Europeans come. Over in Annapolis looks like

garbage. Okay is usually what happens.

The interesting. The most interesting thing to me

here was order of Australia took to this Turf course again very

well and that horse 12 years ago over this course at like 55 2162

one, something like that. So that horse is in play for

this race, which I think is awesome because it means that

this again, this is usually one of the races.

So last year, modern games, I think was in that group, we were

able to use how was Modern games.

Can you find that quickly? My who won this?

Who wanted the my last year at modern games.

When the juvenile Turf by the that's it.

Okay? Alright, okay, so let me I can

pull it up real quick. Why you keep talking?

I ya know and so it is last year.

There were only two horses to play in this in this space.

If you lose. Yes, basically.

That's right. Space Blues.

I remember going on with James Walsh, her are Scottish, Eddie,

Capra that jumps on every year and saying, this is where I'm

going to go skinny was with space Blues.

It feels like if space Blues comes back that that's going to

be the play here. But generally speaking, once we

get to grass and it's not a Sprint, I leaned on the Euros,

it just is what it is Annapolis. Did nothing wrong, I think that

you'll even see because that was, I read right on Annapolis

and so I believe it was my way. Please is retired.

Okay, so that's good. News actually opens up the class

which is good. It makes me think, though, if

you, if you watch, I read jump off.

Analysis hapless for the, the Breeders Cup.

That tells you that there are class your horses coming irad is

there? Yep.

I read and Todd Pletcher. Yeah, so nothing.

I mean nothing about that. Performance says, don't bet that

horse at the Breeders Cup except that the the class is going to

come in from overseas? Well, I mean, Ivar was second in

that race last year. I think Ivar was setting himself

as kind of being the, the class of that of that American side of

that, I'm sorry. Sweet, like straight was

actually second. I have our third third and that

race sold American. Both American.

Horses will for sure. Yeah.

And then actually, ironically enough Ivar didn't show up in

the Keeneland Turf Mi last year at all, came in fourth and then

one the Keeneland, one, the Keeneland Turf mild 2020, maybe

though Ivar's to start to slip a little bit.

I mean this was a little bit. He was really impressive in

Indiana when we were there on. Yeah.

The Derby day but that was against considerably less or

competition. And so, you know, a really good

spot to bring that horse back in it's not a knock on Paulo.

About just, you know, for that horse to be ready for Breeders

Cup in about, you know, three weeks here.

I just, I don't see it. Even though I thought he had a

really, I included my ticket. I thought he had a really good

shot at Saturday and just taken, just a reiterate, Louis

mentioning order of Australia. He did win the Breeders Cup mile

when it was a Keeneland in 2020. And that difference, Louis.

Oh, the the Keeneland Turf course, even though it's been

extremely dry and Kentucky this fall Paired to Del Mar's Turf

course is pretty significant right?

I mean, I totally yeah. Okay, so Ford of Australia likes

the style here, right in the middle of the state than its,

that's never going to go away because that that Caitlin

turquoise just doesn't change, it's always the same.

It's always listed as good on Breeders Cup Saturday because

they just saturate the bleep out of it.

And so, yeah, it's not the Sandy courses that you see on the

coast. It's very much, its own, its own

style here in Kentucky. All right, let's move on to

another favorite Philly of the show and that is malefactor When

in the spinster. And stir Army wife to third

played hard as in 4th Prince's of Cairo.

Last top of the stretch Mallet that coming after lot, ruska

Army wife tries to join them from the far outside Malla that

the leader Mallet that takes the lead Has It by 2.

Coming to the eighth pole Army Wife s Le true score drops back

in third blade hard, his fourth Mallet that final Furlong of the

Judgment spinster has the advantage out to nearly five

legs 16th to go Army wife is s no catching Malla that Winning

the Judd mod. Spinster for John Velazquez.

I didn't touch her. Don't touch her.

I think you tapped her on the shoulder once like, hey, we

gotta go. Yes, a couple little faster

because it looks so easy for her.

She's got one of the easiest rides.

I've seen I mean, it's That distaff class is really

interesting because it is hard to know because they haven't run

against each other. Who's a better Philly right now?

Is it mouth that the four-year-old or is it and asked

the three-year-old who ran against the boys, really?

Well this year and it's just hard to know because and they

should have done this. It's not.

I want to be really clear. It's not a criticism Nest is

only run against three-year-olds and so it's just hard to know

until we get to that day. Who's going to be better in that

group? I think it's easy to say now at

this point that there's something about liszewski,

that's not firing it, especially going Nine furlongs maybe you

know whatever it is. The second another horse gets

next to her. She quits I mean.

Well horse. Well that's right.

She started off the year really strong when the two straight

races, one of the Apple that Royal Delta and the Apple

Blossom and then Apple Blossom was a was a legitimate top-level

race for sure. Yeah.

Being clear are being CC. I mean that's an incredible race

and then comes back and the Ogden Phipps and then was very

disappointing that and we just have not really, you know, is

only come in came in third in The personal inside and sin and

that was the only time that she's hit the board.

Last three races. Yep.

Something's probably not firing right with that horse.

I would have to agree. She might just be I mean she's

six. I mean it's some point.

You just at some point, you know, your your jumper just

stops fall in your, you know, your slapshots, a little bit

slower, whatever it is, and every any other sport but it's,

she seems to have hit that spot Clary are seems to have fallen

behind Mallet that within that group, which is interesting

because even recently within the Or within those horses there was

there was a conversation to be had about who was the best in

that in that group. So that older female group.

Now now with that is clearly the best Clary are probably second

and then search results I guess ahead of Le true Scalia is blue

stripe who's not race since the Hirsch and his training at Santa

Anita. Is she the fourth best in that

group? I mean, it's kind of interesting

because these three roles are actually, the three-year-olds

are actually coming on and looking pretty strong.

In that. Yeah like where would you would

you put nest and Echo? Zulu ahead of say a blue stripe.

I would ahead of a search result right now.

Probably. I mean, what about the society

who won the Cotillion? And she's really good, and

that's a gun Runner, right? So we're seeing those three year

old Gunrunner, babies run really, really well.

Secret oath is a fourth best, probably, and that three year

old Filly class you also have. I don't know, even have a horse.

Like, like Moira who ran really. Well, last time I was trained by

Kevin, it's hard. I mean, like, there's just so

many in that group. There's a pretty stiff drop from

the fourth to fifth spot in the in the three-year-old group.

But I would put the top for which includes Nest Egg goes

Zulu society and secret oath right behind malathion Clary are

and frankly, I don't know that Nest doesn't be Clara when she

runs her best she can. Yeah, I think I think that's I

think you I would put nests are clear possibly behind them.

I think it's going to be really interesting.

I think we're going to have eight or eight to ten horses in

that. And that distaff, and you can

probably gonna be able to make a case where I think I'm probably

going to have to use 45. Yeah.

Absolutely. It a longer ticket.

It feels like that to me for sure.

We'll talk about that a little bit more.

Yeah, no, that's fine. And I just a reminder if you're

you know I actually write that on the show.

No, it's good. It's fine man.

If you're new to the show or if you're just kind of tuning in,

you've been tuning, last couple shows something that Mike and I

have always said, is fall in love with the Phillies of Mayors

because they, they race longer. They've already, they've already

said Nest is going to run next year, for example, right?

And so, That kind of stuff where it's more fruitful for Phillies

and Mayors to run and chase purse money than to breed is so

valuable in our Sport. And so, don't get discouraged

when you see the Derby winner or whatever, not running age for.

I think that rich strike this year, for example, will and I

think he should. By the way, if any of those

people are listening, run that horse in the Clark.

Yeah, loves Churchill Downs. Run that freaking horse in the

Clark? He can win it.

He can absolutely win it. And frankly get a different

jockey get one that knows when you're passing the other horse,

you don't have to. Lean over and elbow somebody.

Get anybody else? In a sport that I think is

generally full of really good people, he is showing his ass.

So alright let's let's go through our Breeders Cup Fields

real quick. Just kind of give it a little

upside of where we are. And again these odds that we

have in front of us are not necessarily like you couldn't go

to the track and bet these odds right now but they are I guess

available over in Europe. Yeah.

So I'll start with that distaff side.

We could do that or do you want to do all juvenile races, some

that Friday or and you know, I'll be honest I still have to.

I have a bunch of research to do before.

I feel like I could talk about a distaff Turf race right now, for

example, those are you want to talk dirt races?

I'm happy to do that but on the juvenile side I do a lot of

bleep. I don't want to kind of

silently. Don't want to touch the

juveniles. I'll just say I'll just say.

I think the the biggest favor. Exactly sure.

You cut that and save it for later when I said I just don't

want us to juveniles. That's actually It's pretty

good. You know that I think Cave Rock

is going to turn out to be like the biggest favorite of Friday.

Okay. Coming out of the bathroom Barn,

it's a narrow gate. I think we're going to find out

this year and next that losing arrogate is a sire is going to

be a super negative thing but that was just really unfortunate

because I think his babies are going to be huge, huge

performers this year and next and it's really it's really too

bad frankly because I think there was there was some Lineage

2. There it is, just not going to

happen but I think a rock is going to be the star of that

Friday on the juvenile Filly side.

It says open as I can remember. And you've got I mean I mean if

Wonder Wheel is four to one and that's the favorite in that

group with chocolate gelato and and tell me how great Italian

man. This is fantastic, leave?

No Trace is the fourth horse in that group.

I mean, good luck, good luck. I mean, that's where that might

be on Friday, where you just have to grab as many.

Like seven eight horses in that field and hopefully you hit a

long shot that part of the sequence.

Because I mean to begin with on Friday, it's much more of a

crapshoot than it is on Saturday and so it'll be I mean, Wonder

Wheel, of course, did win the alcibiades.

And so it's not like that doesn't make sense as a

favorite, but I just it's gonna be a wild Friday.

And it usually is, I'm not saying anything new.

It's like when people like, I'm really surprised were a lot of

up. So, it's a college football now

jackass. There's always a lot of upsets

in college football and so that Friday is probably pretty wild.

But I think those I think like I said, I think that it's going to

be Cave. Rock, that's going to be the

star of that. Friday.

Interestingly enough, let's just talk about this real quick.

I'm Doodle for a bit, there's 12 horses.

On our list in front of us. In the juvenile, five of them

are trained by Bob baffert. Yeah, last I checked Bob baffert

can't train in the Kentucky Derby in the derby.

No. And so any horse that wins this

race will not get any Derby points.

For okay. Yeah, I was about to say this is

basically baffert's return to Kentucky.

Mmm. And the only place he can racism

times. While he is suing Churchill

Downs. He can race that everywhere else

in Kentucky. He been a he was not welcome at

Turf way because CDI own stir-fry, right, right.

But he was but he's not interplay, he's not a turquoise

type of Dry. Ginger.

Yes. So, you know, he was he's

already raised it at Keeneland a little bit and it's it's just

gonna be interesting again, we're going to work.

The everything is still Kind of up in the air.

That's kind of paused out actually right now, having Italy

of mean. Yeah, there's no rule updates.

And, you know, we're going to be faced with owners who are going

to have some real decisions to make again again.

And you know, I don't know like when you go get those points I

guess it really doesn't matter until those hundred Point racism

at it. Come up in the in the spring,

you know? But you take your shot and you

see what happens. So, Yeah, we'll go from there.

All right, let's start with the distaff here Louis, since we

just kind of talked about it a little bit.

Yeah, this field. When you see a, she tears, the

devil at 16 to 19 Arabia matter, Ray at 12:35.

Yeah this just tells you how deep this field is.

And again this is more of a are these odd coming from more of a

casino style place and it is a track.

I can't. What does that mean?

Like is it more of like a sports book then Yeah.

So you know, sometimes I think he'd some of these odds might be

a little bit more true of like what really is expected to

happen. It's so, this is from Bovada and

they are, they are technically based in Costa Rica.

Okay. All right.

So Bovada, like snazzy, Gonna Leave Costa Rica, I said,

technically, get out of here. So are you list art off with

this? Are you surprised to have Nest

at 625 On this list given the quality of this field, I'm a

little surprised 2625 only because I do think if Mal if

that runs her race she beats Nest.

That's kind of how I feel about this now.

I mean, people really thought Nest had a legit shot in the

Belmont. She showed that she did.

I mean, I mean she's there's nothing at.

There's nothing wrong with having Nest at the top of this

list, but the idea that in the same group, Echo Zulu.

I mean Nest is essentially even money in the idea that Echo Zulu

would be 16 to one. Is remarkable or that?

Liszewski would be 16 to one behind her is remarkable.

And so, for me, it's more, is she three times more likely to

win the distaff than Mallet? That the answer is no, she's

not. She's not, she's not three times

more likely, and that's what the odd sight.

And so, I would say, in this case, if necessary to five on

the board and mouth, and Clary are three, two, one six, two,

one. I'm using one of them for when

bet rather than Nest in that case.

And I and the one that on here that doesn't make sense to me.

When I look at, this is search results at being 821.

I think that is way too generous like as far as well I'm sorry

that's given that horse way too much.

Credit search results. As a good horse, search results

has been got a grade one win in the acorn but that was probably

one of the weakest grade one fields that we've seen in this

and it's one turn and I mean, it's it was in 2021.

Yep. Like I can't I can't give search

results 821 and look down Etsy store in a huge Kentucky,

muskets heroin good. And so, you know, if you want to

go with that, that's fine. But as a four-year-old, she

hasn't had the results that she did as a three-year-old them Sea

Beast. She won.

The Ruffian had a great too and she won the Molly Pitcher like

picture, great three. So you know who she beat, you

know. I don't know.

Yeah. And that's where I mean mouth.

That the last couple races has really shown me that she's in

her prime right now. She's running the best, she's

going to run and so I think you have to feel really good on the

Pletcher Barn that you have nested you.

Her mouth at a t-bar? Ready to go for the distaff

because I think they are the two favorites I do.

I will be, that will be one of those Mike that I'll say, I'm

really glad we're at the track for that race.

I mean, well, that's the kind of match up that you go to the

track for. So you really the decision to

make your Louis, when you're betting this distaff, is you

just stick with Nesta mouth that or do you decide to go to that

next level? And in the other, the other

included Clary are, because if it falls apart out front, if it

gets too fast on the front, clear.

The air is going to pick up the pieces.

She's more than capable. She's shown it. against very

high-level competition and and so absolutely, I think she's the

other Pretty obvious include because she's just, she's a

winner. She's not afraid to be in front,

she's a winner and so I would include her as and their doors.

So, nobody is society. Blue.

Striped? Those are to me absolute wild

cards here. I mean, it's absolute wild card.

It's okay, because I mean, if if blue stripe has her day, she can

win this race. That's what's wild about her,

that talented, but just doesn't put it together that often and

has been out for a while Society.

Of course, when the Cotillion beating Secret, The Secret of,

who knows? And I think we've got more

questions about secretive, even Rich strike, which is kind of

interesting to think about, actually not the case.

That's right. Yeah, but the one time Society

did go up against Nest Society, came in fourth and S won that

race and the country Coaching Club of America noakes.

I can't talk today Louis and I have not even been drinking yet

so you know, whatever. All right, is that enough on

that one? Let's go into the dirt.

While are you go with that? This is my race.

All right, first first off, I'm fascinated by the dirt Mile and

the classic because I'm just sitting back enjoying my popcorn

and just watching how all the fields kind of start to shake

out and the decisions that are going to be made along the way.

So like for example, We Know Jack Christopher is more.

It's going to be in the dirt mile is not going to look at the

classic but then you go to the next level with life is good.

His life is good. Going to go to the dirt mile or

is life is good going to go in the classic.

I personally Life is good is going to go into the dirt mile.

Believe me, I think they have a they have a feeling that because

he's on the Pletcher side of things, capable of two turns,

like he is that life is good. Make sense going to mile instead

of in the classic. I mean life is good.

It's got a much better chance of being Jack.

Chris, everything does flight line.

That is a true statement yes and I don't see life is good if I

got Jack Christopher at 3:53 and life is good at 4 to 1.

Yeah, let's call 2 to 1 in 4 to 1.

Let's call it that, just because I was Ghost, you don't want it,

I would go. Life is good at 12:56 with that

all day long. I agree with you, that would

make sense to me, Cody's wishes right there.

I agree with that in the next spot.

Excuse me, Cody's wishes one of those horses.

That would be definitely a mile lean.

You know I would think table would be a mile lean just

because of how tape is running style running stuff.

Yeah. Yep.

You know, epicenter would be a Basically, now I think, at that

point, you've only agree. Totally agree by not putting

epicenter in the classic. I think you cheapen what that

horse has been about the entire time.

I agree that he's the best three-year-old to turn horse

right now going. And so you have to leave him in

the classic field. What do you do with Olympiad?

Classic I go in the classic he's better.

Attend four logs that he is at that it than a date.

That's a short stretch of cumin man that is a short stretch of

Keeneland and Olympia. Needs all of it.

What do you are collector? Put them in the Clark.

I would put him in the Clark. I would too.

I would put him in a Clark and I think you 750-thousand dollar

race now. People forget that, man, that

Clark is a legit, you get it, you get a 450 thousand dollar,

check you in the Clark? I mean, that's a that's legit,

man, it should change. That's definitely like restrike.

That's why we're strike isn't on this list by the way, right?

Because Ava knows, I mean that we're strikes in the classic

list though, is he on the classic list?

Yeah, but I mean there's, there's like a big pool of

horses that are choosing between three options.

The dirt mile, the Breeders Cup Classic and running in the

Clark. And if I'm looking at that and

I'm looking at this, if I'm our collector, I'm running the club

in a weird way. Flight lines, You know, just

appearance in the in the classic is going to make the Clark an

unbelievable field this year. It should be right if you're if

you're a trainer and you got an art collector, why are you in

the classic? Why would build not put that

horse in that in that field? I don't see.

The reason I simply don't so interested to see what the hand

of doing with him. I do think, by the way, I think

Country Grammar is a serious, serious horse in this race to

finish in the top three, and then playing the trifecta in the

and the classic. Oh, we're on the dirt mile.

What am I doing on the Jeremiah? I would never listen.

I'm Bo I would never believe what a terrible decision.

He is such a time for a long horse.

That would be frankly, that would be malpractice.

He ran to the Mi would be malpractice.

How are you? I put him in the mile.

Okay. See I think I put him in the

mile, he's because he's fast, he's faster, he is faster, gotta

remember, he won that he won the you know what he wins.

It's because he's he makes his move at the top of the stretch.

Right. And so to me he's the kind of

horse that in the mile is not going to know the difference

between going eight, furlongs of ten, he won't care.

Like when he needs to make his move, he makes his move.

This is some, by the way, should definitely run in the mile.

What would you do? Definitely that Miles not

enough. Time for him to make up the

distance. Never put him in a while.

He asked the classic. What about the Clark?

I don't hate the clerk for him, especially attend furlongs

Clark, 10 or 9? I can't remember.

Now, nein. Eberley - yeah, I think you're

here - time enough for him. Nine yet.

Somali border? Yeah.

Mile. And an eighth, right?

I'm sorry. Yes, monitor Melanie?

Yeah, it's so I Zane. It would be a problem in the in

the in the Clark especially if their speed up front because

he's going to sit 67 that kind of like a 12 horse field there

and do the thing because I he could be a problem there.

For sure, it'll be interesting to see.

I don't in this group in the mile zanon should even be on

this list and he's not a mile horse, he's much long ago.

So I agree and I think that this also Jackie Wars is on this

list. Yeah, no way.

He's in for it. Okay.

All right. I like that.

Take Yes. But why wouldn't he?

That's what I was going to say is you've got Jackie's Warrior

and Jack Christopher who have a chance in the Sprint.

I mean both I would project I would put I would put JC in the

spread to even though he's the favorite this group, which is

interesting because I don't think much of the spring crew.

Yeah, that's a that mean I do not think much of the classic

and in the miles you've you've got your best chance.

They're I mean, they're racing against six horses.

Like I think the model horses, I think the mile in the classic

are going to end up being 89 horse Fields.

I think it's about it because we're looking at lists that are

long right on these on both keys.

And so obviously what we just said then that means there could

be a lot of horses that decided to go to the Clark.

And if that's the case, the Clark kushinagar miles a grade 1

at the beginning of December, right person.

Coughs Aqueduct to do the damn thing.

You do that. I mean like, I don't know.

I there's just so much. There's so many.

It's now at the end of November, the beginning of December that

if you don't feel like you fit into these fields you can just

go do it. I understand the desire to look

if you get if you get a cold or a horse that's brighter color

Breeders Cup placed man. That's on his Tombstone right?

I mean any breeds he breeds to that forever.

It's fine. But I mean at the same time like

you got to be realistic about. We're gonna go get those checks

to the Clark checks are legit, man.

They're legit legit. I think there's there's three

six figure checks on the clock now.

It's a lot of money is listing, 23 horses.

In the classic. Yeah.

And they should know the 17 in the Mile, right?

I mean they have to but yeah but like you know, you're going to

get down to like 14. Oh, so you're gonna get lower

than that. I mean, it's yeah budget saying

like your maximum possibility would be for what's fun.

About the Classic this year though is like I think it

defunded just goes and tries the classic, right?

I mean why the hell not, why not?

Just go get a check can write. I mean like because baffert

especially the baffert horses. Can't run at Churchill.

Nope. And the purses are not great at

Santa Anita. I mean we're going to look

Saturday by the way, at the the Queen, the Queen Elizabeth, the

second, which is 43 year-old Phillies.

Two Mile and an eighth on the turf at Keeneland and the Sands

Point at Belmont. The race at Keeneland, it's 43

year-old Phillies again, Milan 8th on the turf, the race at

Aqueduct is 200k. The race at Keeneland is six

hundred thousand dollars running running a Kentucky's just a

different Animal Man and so I think you're going to see these

trainers especially on the baffert side.

He's going to have to go to the Breeders Cup with his horses,

because this is his opportunity to chase those those verses.

It just is. So here's the according to a

horse race and Nation, here are the probables for the Sprint, it

since the Sprint's not one of the races.

We not going to talk classic at all.

We will get back to you. That's gonna go to the Sprint.

Even we don't have odds for the Sprint.

So I just want to go with that real quick just because I want

to finish that Jack. Christopher conversation, the

probables are Cody's wish Jackie's Warrior American,

theorem Elite power, and Manny wha Jack Christopher gunite

pipeline baby Yoda moral River all listed as Possible's, okay?

So, you know, again, as we just try to see how these fields

shake out, it's just going to to me, it makes it very

interesting. I'm trying to remember what's

the purse difference in the Breeders Cup Sprint.

And the Breeders Cup in my life. It's either a male or female.

Yeah. The dirt balls I thought was

more. Yeah I think ones 15 and ones to

something like that. Okay?

But obviously I think it's no question.

Jack is where is going to be in that Sprint race.

What would you do? Would you run Jack Chris for in

the Sprint at 7:00 at the actual?

It's at six? And that side or would you try

them over the two turns? I just with him a knife, just

feel like, I feel like the one turn is is thing.

Then the one turn is definitely a thing.

You would you try to do it the Haskell and just you know,

didn't really didn't really look great at the Haskell, going to

turns, right? So right I just looked it up the

the Sprint is two million dollar purse.

Okay, all right, and the dirt mile, And the dirt mile, I think

it's also to be ready. This might answer the question.

I hear me. About 2 million.

It's good radio? No, this can't be.

It says, it's only a million purse.

Yeah, it is. So, there you go.

That's pretty much more prestigious than the mile, for

sure. That's absolutely the fields

weaker, and Scott more a bigger person objectives.

For then, I guess you're going for the one turn sprays the

purse. That's yeah, it's twice as much

money. Yeah, he's not a six.

Furlong horse. I get it.

But he's in that weird spot between seven and eight going

one, right? I'm here.

You put them in the you put them in the the wise day in every

year at Churchill because it's one turn.

So because of that Louise, Jack Christopher, the most vulnerable

favorite on Breeders Cup Saturday, that sounds right,

that sounds right? Especially since life is good,

is going to be in that field, okay?

Well yeah, he's in the Sprint. You Know Jack?

Well, what's interesting about life is good now he's shown he

can go to turns, he just did it. I with him they'll have to

decide. Do you want to be in a million

dollar race to have the Breeders Cup tag next to your name or do

you go for a bigger person? A different race?

Yeah, that's the real question. Now that we know that not that

information and so I I don't know, I think Jackie's words of

six Furlong specialist and and I just, you know, I don't think

flapping Jackie's where your Beats Jack, Christopher in the

Sprint and I think life is good beats, who's the Whitmore of

this, feared who's the horse that can jump up in this field

and win a tender one because I don't see one it might be

American theorem if he runs his race but that would be I mean

that would be I would be way more shocked than with

war-winning a BC race. I mean not even close.

So could it be like Well, see, I don't know if, if a gunite will

be kind of a probably did a loja West win this race last year.

Yes. Yeah, right.

But it's a totally different course.

I just He hasn't run back to that Forum very much and so I

just I don't know, I think if you're if you're Jack,

Christopher you running the spread because the money's

better and I think that just one turn fits in better, you just

got to get him going, don't allow him to sit back and wait

for seven, furlongs, a furlongs, whatever it is.

Okay, you want to talk about the classic?

So let's talk about the classic Flightline.

All right, we talked about the classic and then that's it.

Certain else to say there is, I think, um, I think it's going to

be interesting who's right behind him.

This feels Little bit. Like, when you've got a pharaoh,

or Justify in the derby. Mmm, and, you know, you have an

idea of who's going to win the Derby but you're trying to

figure out the exact or the trifecta, something like that.

And I think a bunch of horses here.

Like would you really put it past Olympia to finish second in

the? Oh absolutely not.

He absolutely could write. Yeah, if he goes off at like 14

to 1 and make some really interesting hot rod Charlie,

would you not? I mean you can't run him in the

mile. He's I said it.

I said they should. Um, But in a million bucks,

compared to 6. Look at the board.

That's what he does and he always hits the board.

And so if he hits the board here, he's got a million-dollar

check just in that. Well like what's the number

going to be on CyberKnife 12:36? It's freaking crazy just to time

grade. One winner, I mean, like that's

a serious horse at the three-year-old level.

By the way, again Rich, Strike Up Seated on here man.

Running the Clark, be smart, the car, got it, I think you will.

He's got nothing to prove as a three-year-old.

You won the Derby already, you just ran.

And really good s to Lucas classic come back.

Running that Clark, you know, that's the entire jungle to you

want for him. What's that?

He looked good in Saratoga. I agree that he looked good in

Traverse to, I agree but against older horses in the Lucas, man.

That was to me more impressive than the, than the Traverse

100%, but I'm just saying it wasn't.

It's, he's those facts that could perform for him.

Yes. Yes, especially from,

especially, since in the horse racing Community, all we hear

about him is he's never going to win again, right?

And it simply doesn't look like that at least, right?

And so, I think, Even with a slight slight upgrade jockey, I

think he's look Sunny Leone in that race until the last for a

long, gave him a perfect trip being closer to the lead.

Gave must give him a chance and like, the for path.

I mean, it's really too bad that he leaned in, because frankly, I

think the horse wins, if he doesn't do it, now all of that

said, don't go to Costco. The Clark horse, love Churchill

Downs, nothing wrong with that because they run three different

seasons there, tons of opportunities, for that horse

next year, As a four-year-old, I think Country Grammar behind

Rich strike in these odds. Is it is malpractice?

That's malpractice. I don't think he wins, but if

they ran in the same race cut your grammar, attend four logs

is better. He just is.

Yeah, really? I would agree.

Who else why is that go Zulu on this list?

Dr. Post is on this list Messier.

By the way, my Rangers last range of being Tampa, Bay in the

opening right there. If you put five bucks on every

horse in the middle third, you would still end up on top of any

of them hits the board. Oh sure.

Yeah, no, that's right. I just so, but I think like if

you're again so some of the some of the thought process here for

us, Mike needs to be the baffert horses are going to run in the

Breeders Cup because this is the time that he can ship to

Kentucky and run, right? So defunded is going to run in

this race. What is he Finnish tape is going

to run in this race or in the mile, I would run them in the

mile for competition, but I understand trying to get the

check here. Where does he finish?

Who else does he have in this field?

Yeah. Country Grammar, I think Dude, I

would I would bet cut your grammar ahead of defunded.

I don't I don't know if that makes me a crazy person but I

just I just think I've had five and ahead of Tabor probably I

mean I mean honestly of cut your grammar so 12:36 so yeah.

If he's 20 if he's 20 22, 24 to 1 that's a place show.

But like like an m f frankly. I mean like I just I really

think of I think a lot of him in 10 for a long so I'm just

surprised to see him down there. But yeah, I mean some of the

horses down on the lower legs and makes a lot of sense Barna

by way. We did have odds on the Sprint.

I just didn't go down far enough.

This is the bottom, I stink. I'm sorry.

Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I could have told you

that. Yeah, just the Jackie's worries,

825 in that jet Christopher's 522 and that sounds right to me.

And frankly, if that was the, if this was the field, I would bet

those two horses. Okay, that's pretty listen.

I'm the one thing I'm going to say about the classic movie in

this is where list we are, less than a month away.

Yes, I should be turning on NBC to watch Sunday Night Football

and hearing about how we get to go.

See the see this great horse run Saturday and it is Cricket.

I'm going to use the word travesty and how we're

potentially the best horse that we've seen in the last 100

years. Hey, that might sound like an

overstatement but it's Dennis office.

It was the best performance in Secretary Dan Issel and the were

not like if I went out and ask the average person, would they

think about the horse Flightline?

They wouldn't even know he exists exists.

Yes, right. And that is such a issue with

the Breeders Cup with horse racing with NBC who I would

assume would like to have people tune in and watch the classic

like it if you're going to are the classic.

How are you not just beating your chest and we're going to

see the one of the great all-time horses ever.

Go out there and perform. and if he gets it, if you get to

Washington, get beat Then, you know, it's even bigger story,

right? Yeah.

No, that's right. It would be if he lost the

classic who, Okay? So let's go through it.

What would be Who could be the horse that wins?

The classic, that isn't flight line, where it elevates the

horse rather than us saying it was a fluke.

E-flite lied, didn't have it that day race because if he

loses to nobody CyberKnife they're not going to give

CyberKnife credit, right? There's no there's no horse on

this list that if that a flight line runs his best runs a good

race, gives a good effort, there's no hoarseness.

Listen speaking that beats him for sure.

What? Losses to Olympiad.

Okay? Do that?

Do people go back and say that's a horse that won 45 straight

Stakes to open the season. Do they say that?

Or do they say that he had a bad day?

Yeah, Redline trip. Okay, there it is Boom.

If he loses to Hot Rod. Charlie, who's, who loves to run

second Bad Day, right? Why me hotter?

Oh, Charlie might be the only great might be the greatest

horse Balltown I guess. Hey, look kinky are most not in

this race so settle down. I don't know why that is.

You know, people people I have to say this and I'm glad you

brought up. You brought up King Guillermo

drink, one of elah. If your get away from our Dream

later, don't know. I don't know what you're doing,

but this is the Breeders Cup. And you bring the breast horses,

just the absolute best to Keen. For this race.

Where's our guy? What's he doing?

You're trying them on the turf. What are you doing?

No, put him in the Breeders Cup Classic BMA and do the thing if

you lose the table. When we say that day at the

office, if you lose this to life is good.

So, so I think that's the one horse.

By the way, life is good or epicenter.

We say that's an all-time performance from one of those

two horses. Those are the only two where we

might not say flight line effed up.

Yeah, if he loses it, then people try to play it as Its

back. Whoo.

I like that angle actually. Yeah I honestly think that's

that's the big. I still think Country Grammar

says best his best chances. Absolutely.

Right. Even at those odds.

Yeah, but but at least has like the the closer odds, the three

wins out of five. I mean, Some good races.

Also, I didn't realize this until today.

The classics purse is double the Kentucky Derby.

So talk about, oh yeah, advertising.

Well, I know, I know this is only one of the richest races in

America that NBC is not promoted.

Well, I was actually gonna sack, I'll tell you exact, it's how I

know that our show by numbers is followed by very like, people

who love horse racing because our biggest weeks tend to be

British couple weeks, actually, So, you know, we've had big

episodes with with, with Derby for sure, but our biggest weeks

tend to be with Breeders Cup because all the horse racing

people get together in the same week for sure.

Yeah, it's the week. You mean, you can make money.

I mean, look at that. Oh, I'd Blown Away by the odds.

I mean you you hit you when you've got a Country Grammar at

12:40. And if that goes up to 25 to 1,

right? That's even if he hits, even if

he pays like, you know, 18 to show or something.

Yep. Let me read to you.

A place. Excuse me.

I mean those are those are the kinds of numbers where you can

really make a lot of money. Go ahead, Mike, I'm sorry, I cut

you off. I would say that Flightline

losing this race would be a bigger upset than what most

people, I think consider to be the biggest upset in horse

racing and that's native dumpster.

Well, there's the upset of upset but native dancer, losing the

53, Kentucky Derby a dark star, so why I agree with you.

I think that's correct. I mean this I don't think point,

I don't see it either. And and by the way you don't get

that horse to win. You just bet him to show and

that race no matter what. Yeah so take the nickel and move

on. Yes, the sure.

Yeah, put $1000 to show or whatever.

Is there anything that would seem more?

Like number one baller that would have put in a thousand

dollar bet and then like I'm betting to show and I made my 50

bucks on a thousand dollars. I got a thousand dollar bet I do

but high drama. So okay.

Here's a Here's a question that I want to throw out because this

is a topic we have got invited back on the show.

I'm just, you know, I told him to go away earlier.

Yeah, exactly. You know, Louis or made a

comment about well, you know, these are the odds today, talk

to me about that idea, that there might be some fixed odd

betting on this, the fix dog wedding would be Fascinating.

I think like sell the Breeders Cup.

Why should they have a fix odd window?

They shouldn't Breeders Cup some bad example, actually.

Not, that's no because they make so much money in the pari-mutuel

game that they shouldn't do it now for the Casual player or

it's frankly, the more serious player if you want to be in

Vegas and do those kinds of things, I think that's where you

go do it. I think, though, for Keeneland,

for Breeders Cup, the pair of mutual take out, is guaranteed

money and you don't mess with the possibility of a flight line

loss of him tripping out of the gate or something like you

don't. Don't even mess.

We never know that stuff could happen, right?

Correct. Of course.

So or frankly with the show bet in the way, it's set up in

Kentucky, they're very unlikely to ever lose money on a show but

yep. And so that's another reason to

not offer fixed odds on a show bet on flight line, even if it's

minus 1000 or something, they're going to lose money.

I mean, they're just gonna lose money.

And so, I mean, for me, Breeders Cup is the bad example of this.

I think it's much much more when we had the conversation.

Ation about the Haskell. For example, that's a great

place to do it. That's a great spot.

Is the Breeders Cup a bad example or the just the Breeders

Cup Classic, the Breeders Cup. Okay?

Because they make so many people that I mean that pick-six gets

like I can't even imagine the pool it since its many, many

millions of dollars and it pays for look if they're able to put

these kinds of purses up six million.

Yeah. Right.

It has to be paid for somehow, right?

Yeah. And it's double the Derby.

Is that points out, right? I mean that's the point.

That's how much money has been a mutually.

They To change it. All right, let's move on to our

handicapping segment of the show and we'll talk more Breeders Cup

races next week as the as Eastfield start to shape the way

next week. One of my favorite weeks of the

year because just because I love, I love the guys that are

coming on. John Kasich is going to be on

from, with us from from the Maryland, Jockey Club.

And then, Dan Dillman who I is one of my very favorite guests

that we've had from drf New York guy who has taken over the Beat

for them for many years, knows a lot of stuff.

I don't know that we've had a show where the guest Dan, in

that case came on and just gave us winners.

Just like, just like this horse has never run on the dirt, gotta

win. It's like what, why is that

horse? He's like, just just bet the

horse. Like, literally one of those

like, just about the horse. I'm Danielle man, just do it.

I asked him if he had a rap name ill, man, in high school.

He totally rolled with it. Like, it's that kind of show.

So next week, Marilyn million week it's going to be super And

I'm really excited for that show.

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I will I will try to actually pick a winner that isn't flight

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that's great. Go get the she christened her

team, they do a great job over there green she racing.com I

mean you get the copy that sheet for Keeneland Marlins I'm going

to be out there and I'm going to see the great three actually.

Sycamore a three hundred thousand dollar race for

three-year-old long of this race.

Mom, how long the turf, Louis loves Mana, have to our faces.

We all know that. No, you know, free money

tomorrow. Free money for our club, our

clothes. I wanted a mom.

Okay. Who's winning tomorrow Red

Knight. Oh, that's 61 wow.

There we go. Here we go.

I don't get it. Here's what I don't understand

and I don't want to pick on anybody.

Nick, you're doing a great job. Thanks for doing the morning

lines at Keeneland, why is a horse that has since it moved to

the mic, maker Barn, one listed Stakes of colonial at a mile and

a half comes back at Kentucky, freaking Downs, beats goo Bow.

At a mile and a half 6, to 12, and 0 in the barn 2 and 0 at the

distance. It would be probably the horse.

That's probably the biggest specialist has the disk am I?

What am I? What am I worth possibly

missing? I mean, I cannot understand what

I'm even possibly missing here. It's been hanging out at

Churchill Downs, training over the, the training track called

Papa Level gets Gerardo Carlos again.

I just, I don't know what I'm missing.

I simply don't understand it and this is a horse that yes, is

going to close has no release speed.

I have really good news in a mile and a half race.

There's no early speed simply put, I don't understand. 12:54

line here. I also have no pretension about

other people not figuring this out so I think this horse

probably goes off it 72, something like that.

I still think it's a bit too. It's good value in this race

though. There are a bunch of horses that

should get your attention. Another mystery is in this race

and was part of that blanket. Finish at Kentucky Downs has run

against Anna Red, Knight twice this year.

Finished a length and a half back.

This is the 11 Horse, by the way, gift for Angelo here.

Chris block the three jockeys that are on suspensions.

Cannot ride Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

So you get back up, jockeys. I don't want to call them that

but that's what you're getting. So usually this horse would be

written by I read Ortiz, that's why Horses 12:45 because of

floor rajguru, man, this horse missed by a neck at Kentucky

Downs. So you're calling for rajguru a

backup jockey compared I read Ortiz, I am yes.

By the way, he just fired his jockey agent even though he gets

all of these ridiculously good mouths That's an amount, a state

that's a different thing but yeah Frenchie's on this horse I

totally trust him at Keeneland. He's already hitting it. 70%

this meet him and Chris block are 0 for their last four.

That means nothing to me because he's getting a horse of this

quality Sun Temple City. They prayed the source for 5

grand, he's made over a half million dollars.

That's amazing. I love it, I just I'm interested

because I do think in Chris Jones is Horus, by the way,

strains, that yields them. That's the kind of horse where

in these mile-and-a-half races could just pick it off.

He's got a little bit more early speed.

He can be in third fourth, fifth position in the pick these races

off late. I think there's a lot of value

there and then I mean, look even a horse like, there's so many

me, remission. By the way is 722 and should be

finished right behind gufo in The Sword.

Dancer, the grade one at Saratoga over.

Good go at Keeneland there's going to be rain tonight.

And so the grass course, the way that they tended, there might be

a little bit on the good side tomorrow.

Right 103 speed. Figure last time out with Julian

leper. Roo, at Saratoga, this isn't

better company than that and so that horse, the seven is

probably going to be part of the equation as well.

So I would play some kind of some kind of exact here with the

two red Knight. The seven, me remission and the

11. Another mystery tomorrow.

Talk to me a little bit about the The thought process when

between doing and exactly what those three horses versus just

going with the trifecta. Just in that case, you know,

let's say that, you know, arklow does run a good race and

finishes third with let's be honest though our glow really

hasn't run a good race since 2021.

It's been a little bit here and well in the Bowling Green at

Saratoga, but it just he's, he hasn't been consistent in recent

years. He's one for five at Keeneland.

He's capable of it. That isn't the question.

That's what you get with with eight-year-old horses.

I'm shocked actually that this horse.

Isn't valuable in the breeding shed.

I really don't understand it actually, I mean, if you talk

about 21 2015, she has in the top three and thirty eight runs

has made over three million dollars, loves to race if any of

those genetics translate to the Next Generation, that's a

worthwhile, I don't know, ten fifteen thousand dollar pop and

so that's where I'm a little surprised that this horse is

still running for three hundred thousand dollars.

I mean it just it's a little surprising.

It's at the Brad Cox doing a bad job with him.

I mean he's hit the board. One out of two times this year.

I'm sure that you know, the, you know, and then he goes to

Kentucky Downs and I don't hold Kentucky Downs against any horse

that I've ever seen. And so, I just, I don't know.

I arklow Less in my mind. The exact is that Keeneland

especially these bigger fields are paying enough that it's

worth it to play that. So the trifecta okay I know we

said we weren't going to talk about anymore Breeders Cup

races. Oh you brought up goof.

Oh yeah. Who did running and Kentucky

down so they could have kept you so here.

Yeah and he we talked about Google being a mom has

Specialists. This could have been a decent

spot for him before the Breeders Cup.

You know, you could argue. That's a little too close but

it's definitely a random after two weeks.

Going to Kentucky Downs. I'm wondering now though because

of how terrible he was at the in the Joe, Hirsch Turf classic if

that decisions coming back to bite them in the butt.

I don't know he was really good at Kentucky Downs.

Man. Yeah, but he was really bad in

the Joe. Hirsch.

I understand. You mean running him a Kentucky

Downs? Yeah.

And trying to get that, you know, because he they kind of

went after that payday, right? They wouldn't know for sure if

that's what that was. Yeah.

And I think that he ran well but then again the rebound not

expect to see him at the Breeders Cup, the dots.

I think he is. I mean and again he'll be good.

Having almost a month's worth of rest because they exactly favor.

Look, that up is the turf. So the Breeders Cup Turf the

mile and a half race. What's the person that I think

it's four million dollars but keep going keep going.

Yeah, I think he does. I think he is in it, I think it

makes it very interesting. I think there's going to be, you

know, that that field to is going to be pretty wide open.

I think that's that wide-open look, we talked about it on the

show by not running at the Breeders Cup, opened up that

field in an incredible way because if he runs, we get two

singles in that sequence, it's an unusual way.

What's the first thing about 40? Was your guess for million?

Yep. That's it for.

Okay, thank you. Okay.

That has a chicken. Hello.

All the turf is serious dude. That's a that's the world

outside of the Arabian, Peninsula, that's the world.

100%. I was just saying, maybe not

launch I guess, but yeah, it's right there but think of a horse

like, you gotta go for the four mil.

Oh, for sure. And I think he'll be ready and I

think he'll run. Well, and that's that's not the

issue. It's just, I was surprised to

see him in Kentucky Downs out. That short of a layoff but I did

not give him out of that ticket that we had down there.

That wasn't the point. That was the bad part.

We had read night in our ticket, And just didn't finish out the

maiden race in the last leg, but it I just I think her out or

curl our eyelashes, by the way, I mean, just 38% already at

Keeneland, he is wildly underused, I think he's one of

the great jockeys on the Kentucky Circuit.

When you get to Turfway, you just have to include him in

every leg of everything that you do.

For example, with seventy thousand dollar, I give him a

lot of credit because he knows his sweet spot and it's Kentucky

and he's that guy's going to make a million bucks to million

bucks this year, good for him, that's great.

Okay, we're going to move on to Saturday.

We're going to stay on the turf. We're going to about

three-year-old Phillies, and this is the Queen Elizabeth, the

Second Challenge cups, and it's a great one.

And we got a heavy favorite here Louis who I'm just, you know,

pretty pretty excited to kind of just see how this horse kind of

comes in the form with McCulloch as McCulloch.

Vulnerable here. No and I but I think you're

seeing something from Chad Brown, hear that.

He sees a six hundred thousand dollar race rather than the

Breeders Cup for this horse. That makes sense.

So he sees her as an opportunity to run her here.

My senses will see her at Churchill Downs.

In November. Over those limited Turf races in

a Stakes as well. I think she wins here.

I don't have a lot of analysis here.

Other than I read, either wins or does nothing at this at this

Caitlin, beat 54 17, no places. No shows.

He either wins or he doesn't finish.

The race. I think she's the type of Runner

no matter what that's going to be in a great position.

I think in this smaller field her running style is perfect for

it. She'll be right off the leader

or third, something like that and then overtake everyone in

the stretch and just it just win the race.

Okay, well then I hate to be boring about it because it is a

great one. It's a restricted three year old

Filly grade one. She's she's the best of this

field. We're going to move on to the

Big eight at Aqueduct are, all right.

Yeah, the big Abe Belmont. A big dome on a bill Gaye.

Sorry. All right, Belmont.

Big Aid, you know, put it all together.

We're going to Aqueduct people. It's okay to admit it.

We're going to God duct problem on.

This is the great to Sands Point, which is a mile, and an

eighth on the turf for three-year-old.

Phillies again still another the real Philly race for my mother.

Mom and eighth two hundred thousand dollars on the line

here. Louis who do you like in this

one, man? Bunch of really fun, a fun

runners in this race actually. And so, just a bit of a feels a

little bit more. Open fun to see, Pizza, Bianca

here. And so Jose Ortiz is staying in

New York to run this race horses.

Coming back from asket ran in, June, didn't have a great run

there. Finish eighth by up the track

and it's so interesting to watch American horses.

Try to figure out straight line racing because it's just not

what they're used to. It's so funny to watch them.

Like, you can see I'm kind of leaning.

Like where's where's the turn? Like we wait for my cue here.

What do I do? And so if she can stretch out,

she's never gone this far, it'll be interesting to see, because,

frankly, most of the time she's a Miler and she's a Miler a

places where it's a bit shorter. I actually think she should be

the favorite here. I think 522 is a really fair

price. I think she's the class of the

field. I'm not worried about the main

track only, even though there's going to be rain, this race is

going to be run on the turf, they're going to make sure it

happens. There are other horses in here.

That are interesting Spirit of Glory One.

Last Time Out in a listed Stakes of colonial.

What's been interesting is watching horses from Colonial

translate to other tracks and that Turf course has held up as

a legitimate Fair. Sort of way to look at a horse

and go. Okay.

They ran. Well they're they're going to

run well in other places. 81, on that horse, Javier Castellano

Christophe gamma we just talked about another cold, ma it Pizza

Bianca. So this is his other horse once

in a while with John which renders.

Excuse me. You look at Okay, who's the

other Chad Brown? And that was an Italian last

week by the way, Regal glory in Italian, both chat Browns, you

had to look to an Italian to get the winter there.

So maybe at 8 to 1, you get a really really you get really

good. You can really good value there.

And so I don't know there's a I actually like your toys with

what pizza Bianca a lot, of course, that is Bobby Flay's

horse and it has been and every other, right?

And it's been running and grade once, and oh, super high-level

horse. Yeah.

And they getting back into restricted company like this.

I think it really makes sense for her.

Yeah. I mean, course one that Breeders

Cup juvenile fillies Philly, Turf last year looked awesome

doing it. I love that pic Louis, and I

think you're right it at 1:55. That's a, that's a great number.

So, you know, even look at some You know, ten dollar win, bets

or whatever you want to do there.

Yeah, so Vergara is also in this race.

Just want to Kentucky Downs, will start to see if some of

that form translates to other places but, you know, if it gets

into the into the yield, I don't recall yielding.

But if it gets into good, you know, kind of wet course,

Vergara might be your play there for Grand motion coming out of

that, Kentucky Downs, Oaks as one already against

three-year-old class, 922 would be really, really terrific

number but that's kind of where it would look.

Talk to me. Why you think this imminent

vicar horse? Victor horses.

Three, two, one. Obviously not run, Chespin Brown

and Manny Franco, have 133, percent of their races at this

to meet. That's why that's insane, dude.

That guy, I want, by the way, I'm just going to go ahead and

take a Victory lap here. Who told you Chad Brown?

No know who told you chatter how many Franco like ponies nothing

but humble, I'm just letting you all know that humility and Louis

were about Zack. You've known me for a long time.

His humility. Always just been one of those

things for him. No no I don't take victory.

Laughs very often on the show. You settle down.

Maybe Franco dude. That's a wise guy.

He takes his victory last with the cameras off.

Oh well that's probably true to you.

Please listen we've gone over an hour with literally nothing

really to talk about. So we had good son.

Talk about, it was my computer. You're fine.

All right. Listen tune in for more Breeders

Cup action. More Breeders Cup analysis?

Maryland million all the way up. It's like nine Stakes.

Next. Dude it's going to be fun and do

we have any will we might even have an announcement about

Breeders Cup week? Just kind of give you more

details about where we're gonna, we're gonna have an event

Wednesday, a Breeders Cup week in Louisville.

That bozo is for sure. I'm okay actually that's one of

the reasons we went there for dinner tonight and then so we'll

have a handicapping event Wednesday night Breeders Cup

week and then I mean look, Mike and I are trying to figure it

out, we want to do an event. It is that's more for the the

media members, right? Are we not all we're doing?

I don't care who shows up the okay.

Look, Mike and I are devotees of the of the hole in the wall.

Mexican joints, west of love it's Zack has been to one of

them. Just west of Lexington, there

are so many good ones and we want to just bring 50 people to

one of these things and just just saturate them, you know,

help them make a bunch of money during Breeders Cup and sort of

highlight. Frankly, the reason those places

exist because of our great backside, And grooms and all

those people that do all the great work which are just happy

work on the farms in Kentucky and gel so that I mean yeah I

mean just at Central Kentucky's a great conglomeration of that I

was just in Shelbyville and it is so Locker for a good taco was

basically what losing feels full of them, dude.

I mean like and then you know, you get out to Lexington

Versailles, all that it's really great and so we're looking to do

that as well. So we'll keep you updated on

that. But first things first, A little

Marilyn million next week and then we'll get a.

I want everyone to kind of anticipate.

We're going to do a naira based horses show for British couple

have a SoCal based one James Welch is going to join us from

Scotland to talk Euro shippers, but he's also that guy loves

American Racing. So you're gonna get a lot of

really good dirt analysis from him as well.

You'll understand every third word, it'll be fantastic.

It's it's not wrong well on the show, I love him, by the way,

he's awesome. He's literally one of our

highest rated I love them. Hey, that's that's somebody.

I reached out to you. So as you all right?

Happy hour. That's a good thing.