BC2022 Preview: DRF’s Dan Illman

I welcomed, in Monday, afternoon Breeders Cup week addition.

Horse racing happy hour, Louis Rebel with you hanging out, talk

to James Welch, this afternoon, getting into it now, with our

guide to an element from The Daily Racing Form.

Dan, how are you doing great? How are you?

Hey man, they drew the Breeders Cup.

Today I'm in a great mood, so excited for this one will

course, you know, we're spoiled his bleep, we get to go out

there this weekend so really, really looking forward to it.

So anything Extend out from the draw, anybody lose any spots on

The Dan Dillman told him, if you will based on the draw, you

know, it's funny. I was looking at it and I was

expecting. As I do every year to be hurt by

the draw, I usually get post 12 or post 14 in the Breeders Cup

juvenile Turf and it makes me want to Triple think things.

I was pleased with everything that happened in the dry.

I don't think there are really any horses that are hurt.

I don't think flight line is heard in the classic by his

position. I think we're gonna have a nice

Fair Breeders Cup, which is all we could ask for awesome.

Yeah, I agree with you. I didn't see anything that stood

out. I remember I was in between

meetings and I got the text flight line draws the floor, and

I thought that's fine. That's fine.

He'll be fine. And so he'll work out a trip

from there especially since you know, Hot Rod Charlie's actually

to right next to him. So I think it'll have a horse to

sort of put on right in front of him and he'll make his move,

whatever the hell. He feels like it because he's

flight line. We had We had a, we always have

a show with James Welch, from from Scotland, adults takes me

about 90 seconds to adjust was accent but he helps us preview

some of the European Turf sprinters.

Is there any race here in the Breeders Cup draw that you are

most interested in either because you expect a big

performance or you think Betty wise it's just going to be

excellent. I think that the to be honest

with you I really think that the juvenile fillies turfs an

interesting race. Cool.

I'm not exactly sure. You know who's going to win it?

I know right Europeans and Are are very happy about meditate

very happy about Spirit gal. I like last call the horse

coming in from Woodbine. I think that horse is really

interesting. I know she's going to have to

try to turn. She one, of course, it would

bind going on one turn Mi. She was a gigantic price that

day, but I remember going into that race watching her prior

starts and saying, she doesn't know what she's doing.

She's very green, she pulled hard in her races, there was

something there, she just hadn't put it all together and then she

put it all together in that rail is right.

Much tougher spot that she's got to be a giant price.

Yeah, I think that's totally right.

And, you know, there's there's other horses in here that we

ended up talking about like a like a basil Martini.

There's a little bit of scuttle that that it's going to be

Joseph. O'Brien, who has the big

Breeders Cup this year? That he's really got a couple

horses that he thinks could be a problem and they base martinis

going to be one of refugee, Basile Martini.

Of course coming over from the British Isles 12:44 on the

overseas books. Interesting to see where that

ends up when we get to Post time.

But yeah, that looks like a fun race and we were talking about

it, you know, one of the one of the interesting things in you

pointed out. At least she's gone a mile,

right? So many of the American

two-year-old Phillies have never gone a mile into Turf and just

done it over a spacious. Turf course, it was against a

pretty solid size field again. She's learning and this is a big

big step up in class or her, but I do think that she's kind of

reaching maturity. She hasn't had to travel all the

way, like, many of these Europeans.

This is a race You're a very very well every year and again a

horse like meditate seems very, very tough, a horse like Spirit

gal disease. Interesting to me.

I'm to, I'm just curious to see how this works performs outside

of Canada around to turns to me, considering her various quirks.

That's what bothers me. Maybe the most.

Yeah. And, you know, on that Friday, I

think that, you know, you're like me, you're kind of looking

for where you can shorten up on a logger ticket or whatever that

might look like. Is that a Race.

Where you feel like you're going to have to grab three.

Four, five horses. Oh, I think so.

I mean this is a horse that I have no problem getting the win

at the price, she's going to be. But this is the worst thing

because she's going to be such a price and because she might not

be the most likely winner by a long way.

I'm probably going to have to spread meditates in the 10

whole, I think to me she's she's a very very interesting

Contender. She look good in summer for

races Spirit. Gal the seven is twenty to one

and I know that a lot of folks are going to look at her last

race. And say I asked around the

synthetic and What does that really mean?

She looks very good and doing it.

She looks like a North American style horse the way she changes

leads and keeps going. She seems to have some speed as

well. I think this is a race that has

some some chaos. Why can't midnight mile?

The horse-breaking out of post 12 do very well in this spot.

It's, there's a 4-1 Morning Line favorite in here and meditate.

I'm not sure I'm a big Delight fan.

Although, I like the way she wanted.

Kingman last time out, it's a race for I'm going to have to

cut. It's not like I'm going to go

all 14 in the juvenile, least turf.

But I'm curious to see how how how last call doesn't hear.

You know, I kind of like the Jackie that the Tory kids pretty

good her. I've heard his name before you

know and this is where you know, if you it could start a big

weekend for Chad Brown, if someone like free-look jumps up

here to uh, Oh, yeah. And I mean, talk about a guy

that's loaded for bear and I mean, I know there's a

disappointment because Jack Christopher is out and there's

all sorts of controversy and rumors going around there.

But, you know, again, Chad made his his bones in races with two

year olds on the turf. And then, of course, the first

horse is on the turf. So, older Turf forces on the

turf. Yeah, that horse could easily

win. I don't know.

I just I'm looking for a price. I think that this race might be

ripe for the pickings from a price standpoint.

One that might not be as the juvenile itself Cave Rock.

Of course, coming in from the West Coast, looks to be the best

two-year-old going right now. Do you expect him to kind of

strut his stuff on Friday the way that many expect flight line

to do the same on Saturday? I stepped in to be real tough

on. I it's a stuff situation.

When a case of flight line or is players have to ask yourself,

how comfortable are you really going to be betting against

them? Really not love them.

You may not say, oh I made you may love another words, you may

be a An of another horse. You may say, I've been we're

looking to play the source of X prize, but do you really want to

bet against Flightline? Considering he might be one of

the best sources we've ever seen.

In the case of Cave Rock, do you really want to bet against Cave?

Rock me. I take a chance against maybe

Cave, Rock simply, because he's only run a couple of times,

maybe not against the greatest competition.

I expect him to run. Well I think he's way the horse

to be. There's no surprise there.

Why can't Forte run right back? I'm with you he's a real

experienced professional. Listen, he's not sick.

And he's not you know you sexy on paper like a rock is but he

shows up every time he gives a good performance.

That hopeful breeders Futurity double that's pretty nice to go

718. Two turns in a mile in the

sixteenth, and to run down a loose speed horse with that

short stretch at Saratoga. I think that logins is a nice

Source. I know he's not in the juvenile.

I think Forte won that race a little bit easier than it

looked. Last time out, we'll find out.

This is what's known as the acid test against abafar two-year-old

speed. I'd like to give Forte a chance.

And there to beat him. Yeah, I'm interested too.

I think oh I just love verifying, excuse me.

Oh yeah, I did that. Yeah.

And it's had 21. The price just seems really

right? Get a break from the five.

I love that spot. I, you know, so there's there's

some of these horses, you know, again, you have to decide if

you're gonna bet against Cave, Rock, I may be talking about who

I'm using underneath in a, in an exotic situation.

But you know, I It's turning it turned out actually to be an

interesting group of horses and we just happen to have one.

That's put up a couple of triple digit buyer for this.

Oh and listen I'm from a just simply from watching these

sources on the east coast in the midwest.

They're good they're solid you know verifying it's got that

beautiful pedigree and we expect them to continue to improve but

it's not like these sources have given the wow factor yet.

All right, we've seen the wow factor from Cave Rock.

Let's see him do it outside of California.

I won't be surprised at all if he runs Off the screen and wins

by 10 and everyone saying Triple Crown winner Triple Crown winner

with who which trainer? I don't know.

But the bottom line is he's again, the horse to be, Forte is

tough blazing, sevens is a really interesting horses.

Well, I liked what he did in the champagne and supposedly he's

training very well. First, big appearance in

Kentucky, for Bob baffert. Do you expect anything from him?

Or do you think they'll keep a low profile this weekend?

I think he's probably going to keep a low profile this weekend.

I you Hasn't done a lot of traveling.

Since this whole thing is started, he was pretty much

absent from a lot of the major races.

I think we'll see a low profile form unless you start sweating

races. Then we'll see you in the

Winner's Circle. Glory, I think you're totally

right at our price that we do actually get a fair number of

American winners. In is that juvenile Turf Sprint.

An interesting group of horses here is this a spot where an

American jumps up to you? I think love Reigns is going to

be tough because whenever you Wesley Warden, this fast He

dominates it every time it's not like love Reigns is coming into

this race off. No form.

He's wanted Keeneland. He want his debut.

You really see five and a half. A ml 4 Aces 1 by 10, and he won

by 10 first time out, and that's even more was leeuwarden.

Wesley, Ward were used to force. I'm out at Keeneland during the

Spring, it was so good. They sent this source to Royal

Ascot, and he just showed too much.

She just showed too much speed for her own.

Good in that race. And last time out, they brought

her up a long layoff at Saratoga and The way she sat up another

horse she's learning. She went right by was not the

strongest field in the world but you got a very strong buyer post

to she has options. She can go, she can sit.

I just think that was Lee. Ward train continues with a

horse like love Reigns. Lots of upside here.

Yeah 421 and I don't know that you'll get that number by the

time. It gets to the gets to the

window. Of course the favorite in that

race on the morning line is the Platinum Queen for Richard Fahey

shipping in. We talked about it on the show.

This afternoon, I always kind of watch these left-handed races,

the tighter turns in America on these Turf courses.

Don't always set up. Well I think the 12th hole is

actually to be fair. I had mentioned other, I don't

like the 12 for the Planet Queen here.

See, I got to the gate and I mean we'll find out if European

speed matches up with North American speed.

Personally, I don't think it does Russ.

The Platinum Queens never run around and turn in her career.

According to myself, this is I've gotten her on straight

courses. Yeah.

She's beaten older males, and that's a really nice.

Accomplishment for a two-year-old shalita.

Beat older males going 58. So is also over very soft

ground. She has won over good to firm.

This is a big test for her. She's battle-tested, she's good.

There's no doubt about that. I don't know if I really want to

take a short price on her going around to turn in a race where

she could be outsprinted early. Yeah.

And the, you know, excuse me, especially with the two year old

step break from the gate, especially these sprint races,

so crucial, I mean, just so crucial and the American horses.

So you As to that very, very quick break.

And so, we'll see if that works out for for love Reigns.

In this case here, first real quick, Louis, yeah, I'm Persian

force in this race, I okay horse is a little bit better of the

European horses than maybe he looks on paper.

This is a horse that I think deserves a chance in your single

race Exotics, at the very least. I think she's running some

pretty good races. Awesome.

Okay, well I was also looking up, we're going to be firm.

The time we get to Saturday folks so just in Friday Saturday

here because the rains going to stop today.

And then we're going to get some really really frankly, terrific

conditions, if you haven't made up your mind, damn, about coming

to Breeders Cup. Look at the weather forecast and

make your mind up for you. Anything else on Friday, this

stands out. I'm not really, you know, the

juvenile fillies. I thought this entire divisions

been wide open and for about two weeks, I've been saying to

myself, well, you know, maybe I'm just going to try to maybe

I'm just going to try to be chocolate, gelato Otto, she's

going to be the favorite in this race and the more I look at it

and saying I'm not going to try to be chocolate gelato and think

she's pretty good. I think she's consistent and

solid. I'm not really worried about the

outside post position. So I like her and I like the

other picture horse in that race.

The one you know, off the trainer change, I think they're

both. They're both pretty good in a

division that right now is lacking a superstar.

Yeah, it's interesting. I think Pleasures Prime for a

big weekend. Actually, the more I look at

this and so that could absolutely be part of that

equation. As we moved to Saturday, I mean,

Filly and mare Sprint, you've got the turf Sprint.

Is this, you know, I'm interested because I think

there's a chance that golden pal who's been a little less

impressive, the last couple of runs.

This might actually be the spot where they catch up to that

horse acceptable horses. For for aquiline.

It seems to be a different horse, would running in the

state of Kentucky. What says, Daniel, he's he's,

he's 44 kilo, he's also kind of different Austria runs in the

country of the United States. It's yeah.

You in a way that I didn't love the race, he wanted Saratoga.

And I thought he was okay. Last time out who's better,

obviously than he was in Saratoga.

Does he absolutely need to win this race to the short price?

I don't know if he absolutely needs to win this race.

At a short price, I was looking over this field and I was

thinking to myself, you know, who's going to be the one to go

against him because again, in Turf, Sprint's, I'm usually I'm

usually against sort of the European horse.

Voices and and and don't know if they have enough speed to go

with them. I don't know.

I looked at it. I looked at a couple in here A

Creative force was a horse that the kind of was interesting to

me off of just simply off of the off of the pre entries.

What do you make of that one creative Force?

I do think it's interesting and I think you're going to get I

think you're going to get so much money on Golden pal, that a

lot of these forces are going to become playable, is that make

sense? And so, in other words, you

know, if golden pal, I think I filled princess is going to

chase a bunch of money, you know, I think create a force is

right there. I don't is Campanella player

here. I think that's the question is,

you know, I'll tell you who I really fascinated by is that

casted arrows in this field and and I don't love the 13, I think

that might be, you know, that might be a I don't know the best

way to put it but just like, you know, eliminates cousin Darryl

from from winning, but I'm interested in that horse but I

think create a force is. Absolutely someone.

You got to look at it'll be interesting because with with

Bill Buick, at least you get that experience in North America

having to break quickly, right? Right.

And so he's while very much a British Isles type, you know,

Rider and he's great in the mile and a half the my own 3/16.

He also knows that he's got to get out of the damn gate u.s.

to. So You know, he's got that going

for him to know the thing was cause of dare.

I think he's a very interesting horse because it's like he's,

it's been a career Renaissance for him in a way.

Yeah. He was a really nice

two-year-old. A lot of people forget that when

Steve asked me soon, had him he won the best for nanner.

And, um, he was favored night against Jackie's Warrior and the

Saratoga special kind of lost his way, but is he kind of lost

his speed to, because his tutor fresas, he's just come from,

way, way out of. And that always worries me in a

shorter distance or correct in, you know, race with there's a

Big and bulky field. That's that's what concerns me

because he's either gonna have to go around all of them, which

is easy. Especially at this short

distance is going to have to weave his way through so

Progressive Era to do it. And I don't want to knock him

because he's going to be a good price in this race.

I think he's I think he's going to be kicking on in the stretch

and maybe make sure try it at a pretty big price.

I mean creative Force, the concern is he's turning back.

You know he's running successful.

I'm so maybe those six Furlong races in Europe just play longer

than the five and a half. England, which is pretty sharp

that 1st, ran into that Kinross last time out.

Oh yeah, he's really really good enough.

Kid Ross, I think in a different part of the card here, has a

serious shot. It's absolutely.

Yeah. And so, I mean, like, if we're

looking at it that way, that's where, you know, that's where,

you know, I that's where especially let's go straight to

the mile. Then I mean, modern games, the

modern games, I'm not going to knock that horse.

I'm not the business knocking that horse.

Kid, roster reminds me a bit of space Blues last year, okay?

Yeah, you can do. Seven furlongs.

But could you do eight furlongs on the turf wasn't a problem for

space boots. Last year certainly wasn't a

problem for space blues and I think Andros, if you just look

at his most recent races is somewhat comfortable.

Actually racing poster time form figures that what we've sought

this source to come on, he's won four races in a row.

He's won seven eighths of a mile.

And again, I do believe those seven eighths of a mile races,

do play a little bit longer over there, so that a mile is going

to be okay. You also seems to have a nice

amount of tactical speed. This is the kind of race where

when I first started pouring over the PPS, I thought to

myself. Okay, let's find a price because

I just these North american-based Turf forces.

They're not very good. Annapolis was a three-year-old

and just jumped up and won the the cool more Turf Mile with a

perfect trip. How many times we seen smooth

like straight running triple-digit buyer.

Triple have two digit by orbiting.

Never wins a race. Run forth.

Every is a nice Filly and mare we've seen this dance before in

the Four star Dave and she got be time Ivar's biggest fan but

it's usually close. But no cigar for him isn't the

most interesting horse in the Breeders Cup Mi domestic

spending has to be yes. Even from forcing, gonna get out

of him, I don't know if you can walk, but I know that when he

can walk, he's pretty good. And I think he might be the

most, you know, naturally talented horse in this race.

What? We're going to get off a year.

And a half lay off. I'm not exactly sure.

I just think of modern games runs his last two races he

wants. Yeah and you know with you

mentioned domestic spending the you know actually I'll ask it as

a question instead of making statement, do you think Chad

Brown runs him unless he thinks he really has a shot.

Oh no. Okay, I agree.

I think. Chad Brown believes this Source

has a chance. I think she has been very

frustrated that this Source has had so many physical problems.

And let me tell you, I'm sure. Or they're not happy about post

14. No, that's an absolute is just

to throw everything on top of it.

You're in a half, lay off, obviously, physical problems,

maybe a distance. It's a little bit sharper than

what he likes and now you're giving them post 14.

I think he's going to follow Kinross atom, there is got a

break, well, and get in a good position.

If domestic spending three, four links out of it, turning into

the stretch, I wouldn't be surprised if he runs the mold

down but just the way modern games one that would buy Miele.

It was just it was just so impressive.

He's built up a A great body of work. 2,000 guineas winner, you

know Breeders Cup winner already Woodbine Miler.

He just seems perfectly attuned to North American Racing.

Yeah. That would buy Miele.

It was Almost Boring. Like yeah.

Right. And be like because he was just

so he was. So it was almost surgical if

that's a fair. If I could describe a horse's

surgical like he was just like okay I'm gonna go around that

one and then that one's in my way so I'm just gonna go around.

Okay, I'm better than the you. Okay.

Bye everybody. It's just gone.

I mean, just so boring. It's I went to a few roses.

If he runs that race, he wins, he wins on Saturday.

All right, so let's let's go to that turf toe that you mentioned

because I think there's a chance that we get a little bit of what

we saw. Believe it or not.

You and I talked about it and I'm trying to um, who won the

million turf at at Laurel this year?

Yeah, and I said, man, I think there's a chance that horse gets

out front stays out front and I think we have a chance at that

again, here in the turf. Excuse me, with Juju.

I'm mixing up all of my horses here.

Well, who am I thinking of Danny by Melvin?

No, no, no. Oh my God.

Oh, my think enough, is it? Go ahead and talk about this

race down. Let me find my notes, I'm sorry.

We're talking about the turf, right?

Yeah, it's probably by Melbourne idea by Melvin sustain us.

We'd like straight up with the speed in the mile.

Now, in the turf, I guess. Bye bye.

Melvin could be the speed in this race.

Curious to see what broom does down towards the inside the

Europe Channel makers. Showed some speed in the past as

well is more like goddess. You think kind of the wild card

here? I don't even think she's the

wild card through stores to date.

Cool! Okay, it's just that again, the

north american-based horses are so boring and she's the only one

that's shown star ability and she's the best longer distance

toward Force, regardless of sex. She's better than all the boys.

You showed that in the Joker's Turf classic when she ran down a

loose on the lead by Bye. Melvin.

I mean the only time she really got beat was at Saratoga.

And what beater? The pace Peter.

I don't think Virginia Joy beat her.

They went they couldn't have gone any slower to the half and

for some reason were like goddess was near the back and

bottled up to me. She is she's way the horse to

be. I'd like to see her win because

I thought she was the best horse in last year's Filly and mare

Turf. I just didn't think the trip

worked out for her. Other than that.

I'm looking at the European horses.

I'm saying myself will be Rebels romance.

Hey, he looks really good on paper.

And I look where he's been running.

Yeah races in Germany. Yeah, no that's is three to one

of the races in Germany, but if you go by the whole European

class pyramid, Germany and Italy are like on the lower rungs, no

question. You know, usually they get bad

group, three horses from England, and Ireland, and run

over there and they make a over the local horses.

So, how good really is Rebels romance?

A horse? I'd like to see run, well, I'm

curious as to your thoughts because I think a lot of people

are going to laugh at me when I mention the source this week.

Is Musharraf. Okay.

Yeah, I don't know what to make of him and I are you rooting for

him? Or do you think he's going to

run? I think he's going to run.

Okay, interesting. Alright I think are you

surprised where it's red night in this field and not goof?

Oh no. Not after the way gufo ran in

the in the turf classic. He okay, the sea was kind of odd

to Clemente. Ran that horse back on such

short notice of Kentucky Downs. It was 1:00.

That was his Breeders Cup. You know, there's a million

dollar race fair and wonder if he kind of threw in the towel on

goof or there. He was so bad in the Joe,

Hirsch. Yeah.

Okay, fair enough. I um, yeah, I think, you know,

while I really like red Knight, I don't think he's on the class

of many of the horses that we've already talked about frankly.

And so miss trip. Look that horse runs his race.

He wins, detorri can get the best out of that horse.

I'm sure if you can get six or seven to one out of kicking

horse. Like mushroom, who's won a ton

of great races on the turf and in that 7 or 8 inch deep dirt

that they Of there in the rear of the Arabian.

Peninsula that. Yeah, I mean, why can't he be

part of a mile and a half race here?

I'm with you? I think that that's absolutely

something that can happen. I unlike you though, I don't

expect it to happen and so I will be I'm with you.

I think more like goddess is going to run a heat race here.

Yeah and it's certainly true. You know she's gotten a bad rap

as being this one run closer. She's got a lot more tactical

speed. I agree with you.

Then she you know she gets credit for knowing this race.

It bye. Bye.

Melvin and another horse, took up and They go fast, they'll be

happy to sit back and make one run.

I think she's the best closer in the field.

I think she's the most likely winner.

I'm just curious about mr. If, I think he hated the ground

in his last two races, his start three back against by Eve was

okay. Maybe it's a sign at least that

race that he was referring to form.

What I don't like is that they're playing around with the

equipment. You were cheaply.

We are going now to putting blinkers on for this race.

I'm not sure that's a great sign.

Although John gosta knows a lot more than I do.

Fair enough. All right.

So classic I mean, is so at 325. They're essentially saying the

flight line is something like 15 times more likely to win the

epicenter. That's nothing like this writer

10 B on board, would you have them in the order that the

morning line maker has as second third?

And fourth, favorites? Epicenter life is good table.

Yeah, I would. Okay, the center will be the

second choice based on his. This is at Saratoga.

His Travers was exceptional. He even has just had facing a

horse, that might be otherworldly and that's a shame,

because epicenter, you know, look at the body of work, look

at the fact that he's shown up every time even his losses, the

Derby and the Preakness here and great, both times.

He's probably coming into this race and Peak maturity for asked

me Orson. I think if you asked, if he'd

say, I don't want to trade with anybody, this is a really,

really good horse, but he's just facing a very, very good horse.

Life is good. I thought would have been the

second choice. If this race.

Run in July. The problem is while his last

two races were wins and they were wins against grade one

competition where he went to the lead and didn't relinquish it

either time. I think both of those races

leave a sour taste in some people's mouths because you

know, the Whitney was a slog, the Woodward, you know, law

professors a million to one and he made life is good sweat at

the quarter. Hello, I think you can look at

it and say those two races were over wet tracks, so those races

Out you're left with the 112 in the nehru going seven.

But I think a mile and a quarter is the question for life is good

and I think that's the reason why he'll drift in the weight

room. If I tell you that I think

Olympia is running second in this field behind flight line.

Am I out of my mind? No, not at all.

Because Olympiad is one of the more consistent horses in the

race. He shows up each and every time

he had, that one sort of died in the Whitney, but I think that

track was just very deep tiring. He didn't care for it.

You throw that race at all. You see is once And he's the

kind of horse is going to tuck into a good trip.

You've got to think that they're not just going to let Flightline

run away with this life as good as so fast he hasn't and he's

the speed of the race and Flightline, you can't really

hold him. He's going to be there and hot

rod. Charlie likes to be close to the

PACE. This space is going to be solid

and all of a sudden now that makes horses like Olympiad whose

tactical enough to sit in the second flight behind those

three. If they burn themselves out

here, he comes with his On the second term, is what percent

chance? Do you give it that?

We're looking at under 47, for the first half.

I think it has to be pretty good.

I mean, 46 and 346 and forth. Sounds like a reason sounds like

a reasonable number, right? I think it's a reasonable number

because I think last time at the expectorate life has been on the

lead and I think he's just not as effective that way off as odd

as it sounds as when he hears his feet Rattle and he goes 46

and one like he does in the Pegasus and he opens up a big

lead now, maybe he won't be able to open up a big lead on flight

line. But I Think they're here to win

and life is Goods only chance to win.

Is, if he goes to the front, maybe flight line doesn't show

for flight line. Gets dissuaded by being on a

hard Chase. I think the space is going to be

fast. Yeah, I mean it's I think that's

the only thing that sets up to be really interesting is that

you know, it is going to be phonetic out front, right?

And frankly, when you've had a horse like Flightline who's not

had a ton of experience in those kinds of races.

You either have to decide, is he just considerably better than

all the other horses? It doesn't matter or is the pace

actually going to mess with him a little bit?

He's going to look around. He's like why are there three

horses in front, right? And so I I tend to think that

his talent will overtake the field at some point in this

race. I think the much much more

interesting question is who second third fourth?

And and that's why I think olympiads.

Interesting? Any chance of Rich strike jumps

up, grabs a third place, check in this race.

If there's a pace collapse went on.

Yeah, and I think that's how they're going to ride them.

I think they're gonna ride. I'm Throw them in the derby.

They're going to take him back to last.

We're going to hope this pace is fast.

They're going to save every inch of ground and they're going to

try to come and get a piece of this.

And if the pace is fast, I don't see why not but I don't want to

give table short wrist left. Remember that?

He started his career, like, he was going to be a superstar and

he won the Santa Anita Derby and only a second lifetime start.

And that's pretty impressive, stretching out three furlongs,

winning a grade won, the Derby and hindsight was too much.

Soon. Third start.

We never see that work. He didn't have a great trip

either and then they gave him time he was good in the Haskell.

He was good in the Pennsylvania Derby.

I think he's Progressive. He's got a lot of potential

still and he's, it's not like he's this speed horse.

He has that sort of tactical speed is Olympiad.

Well, I think we've seen olympiads, best race and that

best race is good enough to get a piece of this.

I'm not sure we've seen tables best race yet.

I think there is a surge into the 110 112.

Buyer Stratosphere, give me your three, most likely winners, and

we'll get you out of here. Squeals, likely winners on the

entire card, Friday, and Saturday, Friday and Saturday.

All right, well boy, um, let's take a look.

Nash was going to run big in the Filly and mare, we didn't really

talk about that horse. I think she's just the most

likely winner. I think modern games is the most

likely winner of the of the mile.

And again, I hate to be chalky. So let me guess.

Wacky horse, maybe at a price. How about search results in the

distaff know who I like that one?

I thought that distaff to me reeks of it falls apart in a

blue stripe, picks up the pieces like you know what I mean?

Like I don't know why clear here comes flying from off the pace,

something like that. I with you, I think it's so many

people are only going to use two horses in that race, that it

ends up being the one that you should have spreaded, you know,

and their hand in this race to Nest.

She's very, very good, we'll see.

See how good she is. She's been beaten up on a bunch

of Patsy's. No, disgrace to the Kentucky.

Oaks winner, she's been off form in her last few races.

This paste is going to be real solid.

I would have to say with society.

And here the three year old Filly, you go back on search

results form, you know her race in the Ogden Phipps the black

better than it looks. You had to do with what ruska

she got. The better alert, rooster and

malathion Clary or just ran her down.

She got the confidence boost at Monmouth.

And last time on the personal Ensign, she ran a figure that's

comparable to the Is she won the war.

She won the duel and lost the war again with Lucifer and

Malice. Not only beat her a half-length.

Yeah. She's the mostly training.

Great at Caitlyn for everything I've heard.

So I'd be willing to give her a chance.

Love that. All right.

Any thoughts on the truth command?

What looks like a probable retirement?

I have to admit she was one of those I found out who's running

at Churchill. I canceled a hang out with a

buddy to make sure I was at the track just to see her in person

because I thought that much of her what is was Daniel mistake

away from a great career? With little Atrisco he doesn't

owe anybody. Anything she came and you gotta

love horses like her that just used her speed and just words

able to carry that speed a distance of ground and it was

just a shame that in last year's distaff.

When it was her time to shine, they just had a ridiculous

speedily through everything, but the kitchen sink at her.

It was nice to at least see her, come back and win the apple

blossom this year, but you could tell she's not the same horses.

She was the year before the year before that.

I'm She makes a great broodmare. She's, she's campaign by some

really great people, so I'm rooting for nothing but the best

for looks loose again. And again, you gotta love horses

like that they show up every time run your horses.

That's all I say, no Traders run, man, and she was one of the

very best and she was out there all the time.

Regardless of competition, always put up a great effort.

He's Dan Dillman remind me, remind the people where they can

find your stuff as we head into, I mean, frankly into the winter,

but You know there's plenty of Maryland and erf stuff to find

all week long especially this week Breeders Cup.

Please please please head over to the Daily Racing Form.

YouTube channel will have lots of different opinions on the

Breeders Cup races klock reports with Mike Welsh International

contenders with Steve Anderson and Marcus, Hirsch and, of

course, all the handicapping previews will talk about every

horse and every Breeders Cup race.

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Thank you.