Los Ponies visits the show!

All right, welcome in strap it on, let's go pull up to the bar

here for a low SPO. Nice, addition to the

horse-racing happy hour. We are hanging out talking about

the grade one, Starlet. This room can the champion of

champions, a cool date night feature at La Salle, the only

place I know that really still sticks to the old day night

format and talk about all of it. Our friend, Jose Contreras, new

Dad, Jose Contreras joints the show those ponies.

How are you? My friend, good good, and I'm

wearing my patented Thatcher. Look, we met stuff.

What do you call each? Other wouldn't say throwing

throwing the dirt the part we did not.

We just showed up work. This is Dad mode.

Activated, baby. That's it.

The difference between host. Meghan me though.

Is Jose some front of palm trees?

He's got the backdrop and I'm in the basement where I'm like,

renovating whatever this is. Yeah, that's still my, that's

still my life. And so, I'm hiding from my

family pretending. I don't have one for a half hour

here to have those ponies in. It's been made, it's been a bit

since you've been on the show. Good to have you back.

To be back. Yeah, me and cool day on

Saturday between, you know, your thoroughbred stuff.

During the day, you doing the quarter horse stuff at night, it

tells a lot to me. Jose and I'll start with this.

The Starlet is this is this the Thoroughbred show race?

For sure, you close the card with that.

You're going to have that double.

We'll talk about that in a minute with the champion of

champions man, it's something like two and a half times.

The person the champion of champions the quarter host

program out in Southern California is super serious.

Yeah. So this year's Edition is

champion of champions. It is the most prestigious race

in the nation for older Quarter Horses.

A usually the size world champion honors at the end of

the season. It is worth 750 thousand dollars

this year for three year, olds and up, that will be the

featured event on Saturday and not only just the tablet a to

top it off on Sunday night, we have the running of the

listeners too many Futurity. There's that's right the richest

racing California of any breed outside of when California holds

a British company. We're talking year in and year

out any breeding Doesn't matter their riches racing California.

I've been lucky to cover that race and be the main islands for

the other Ace. Now, for a few years, one point

nine million dollars will be on the line on Sunday night.

I do Sal. How about that?

It's unbelievable. It's one of my favorite things

to follow is that you have told me many times, sometimes a great

day at the track is actually a good night at La Salle and so we

always make sure that we check out loci laughter after dark

especially here on the East Coast.

You know with the Starlet coming up here you know we're still In

the middle of this murky, Waters Jose, where ya bastards got

three horses in here. They can't get any of those Oaks

points. I'm going to talk a little bit

later in the show about how I feel about them just sliding

horses up in position to take those points where I think that

that's probably not the best way to do it that aside.

It's an interesting field and we have a potential superstar in

the field as well. I mean we got a bathroom well

represented like he mentioned. He's got a doing it the hard way

from the rail With a forum on Vasquez, we got Vasa faces form,

got flattered when Lilliput came back to win nicely.

I want to say last week, I do Mar.

She even though she's testing obviously winners for the first

time in trying to tarnish for the first time just body-wise.

She looks like, she's gonna handle the extra distance.

Obviously we still got to run the race but fayza, I mean, she

looked professional. First time out, you know, she's

an interesting horse to and I judge where baffert thinks

horses are on how he trains them and Basil is done that, that

patented baffert 7 Furlong time, train the other horses are still

training at for furlongs. Doing that sort of build up as

two-year-olds, get used to a get ready for that.

Three year old spring campaign to me.

That's kind of the giveaway here that he thinks that's the best

shot he's got plus when you book Flavia Pratt at low Saladin

that's not an accident. Yeah that's not just a bonus on

top of that. Then you have uncontrollable

with my son Mike's made had a couple launch out winners at

Del. Mar what you make a pride of the

Nile righto starts stretching There's a bulletin work out of

the dirty between that what you think of that Runner, you know,

it's not something that trying to re-enter more, a does very

well moving surface to surface, I don't know that it's not a

horse that can't pick off something here though.

And having done the two turns, several times already having

that in her Arsenal as something that is in, you know, it's

something that she's already done.

Obviously the breeding says that she's gonna be able to get the

distance with no issue at all. You get one Hernandez in the

saddle. You got as good a chance as any

thing. Yes.

Yeah. And I mean you're getting her

Nana's, a 92 on the morning that stuff, too tough to get this

time around your Nana's been and he's been one of those are July

whenever you can get him a good odds, right?

And then he ends up winning at 561.

Like, you're like, of course, why did I not look at turn and

as of my God 621, what? A gift?

I let it go and start kicking yourself, the rest of the day.

But yeah, he's got a shot and interesting Runner.

I don't know what to make of the switch of dirt, but I mean, at

least there's two routing ones on that one.

So that's got to be good. The other thing, too, I mean,

you got blessed with touch on the outside for to react, team

can with a smaller bar and of course it's a smaller number of

Runners does have a sizable more sizable amount of Runners this

year than usual 174, nice 14% winning percentage for him this

year, Drayton stays on this horse with blessed touch on the

outside. Again, another Gervin, it's

interesting to see these garvin's having having bread for

so inexpensively and selling for astronomically higher than what

they bred for. You, get blessed touch at least

a chance to be part of the equation at the end.

And to me it was interesting about her and looking at her for

she was 20. 21, 21, 21, first time out.

Yeah and look how drastically she took money.

Second time out in a field of eight at Santa Anita Maiden

special weight. You drop down all the way to 5

to 14, that 10th link beat an effort.

So obviously there was a report that she was training much

better or there was more left in the tank she robbed by 8 and

then she read it to the horse record.

Probably the most impressive baby winner of the Season at Del

Mar the Summer was just speak. I think she throwing a clunker

accent. He know if I'm hearing correctly

just dictate, just stick these dead.

Excuse me. And then she came back to the

Amar she looked Sensational. Once again, I think blessed

touch to me is a little bit more interesting than the other other

baffert's to me. She's the one that I think

really could jump up with a big performance, you know, that's

printed route number for Tim all the all of his numbers seem to

be in the mid to high-teens. Yeah, that kind of thing.

He does everything pretty well in other.

So I agree with you. I think there's something there,

you know, you get Street boss on the bottom side, the breeding

makes sense. For 2 turns here, I'll be

interested. You know, easily the best be

figure in the field and I know it was over six.

Fit a six furlongs it's an Anita but it's worth something right?

Yeah. Absolutely worth a second look.

And if you're going to get value in the sequence, you're going to

you're going to have to try to be phasing Franklin for sure.

And so that's going to be one of those things.

I think the race before this has a chance to go real talk to you

as well. So if you're trying to play that

led sequins whatever, you know, maybe the pick six, which I'll

have you describe to people. In case they, for some reason,

I've been missing out on the traditional six pick six out of

Sanity. That we'll have to talk about

that but the betting options on Saturday for the Thoroughbred

side. Obviously one of the things I

think people have to get used to when they go to La Salle for the

first time in a while those pick for us.

One dollar minimum, yes, I love it.

I love it, I love it. He had a traditional to pick six

which is not another jackpot. So traditional pixel.

So even if you're like, if you have one of those days were like

man I won five out of Excellent. Father took my get you a lot

more then, would you end up investing in the ticket?

A lot of those five or six concerts could be?

You see, especially if it's a carryover where nobody had sex,

you might be in a great spot for 50 to 60, traditional pick.

Some extra dollar. Pick six, the $1 pick force.

And also, if you're playing Race by race, if you're not much of a

horizontal player where you're, you know, I'm not a pig, five

guy, I'm not a pic for pic six, the trifectas or one or minimum

side. Also look, if you're playing

Race by race, that's the way to go.

Go some of this trifecta, this and don't forget the nighttime

horse is sometimes get overlooked during the daytime,

some of those nighttime thousand-yard four and a half

for a long rollers that are duking it out.

They get a completely overlooked just because a connection wise

you know the nighttime Riders I-10 creators and you're gonna

get great verticals throughout the daytime season just because

some of these words to get overlooked, just because of

connections alone, you know, it's interesting.

You mentioned that in the seventh race to start too late

for actually nice guy. Clay is in that race.

And I know from watching the night races, that Edgar Edgar

Paris is guarantee he's gonna do a good job in that race.

Ready knows, the course that that extra little turn.

Is it gonna bother him like he's gonna know, you know how much

time he's got left there and, you know, that kind of

connection where you can get a little bit of a price, I think

he's 92 to, that sort of thing. That's the kind of horse that.

Especially if you can get him for ya him.

In this case, did you get him in a, you know, in a 92 a

five-to-one kind of price just because people Overlook those

kind of connections because call fries in this This and Jose,

Valdivia is in this race. And so, you know, people, you

know, names that people might know a little bit more than say

and Edgar, if they don't watch those night races, some of those

things to watch as well. So tell me about this Apprentice

who's on shipper in this race? Who is this Aguilar?

What do I need to know? So I could liar.

Look I wish I need more, I just knew that when I see a rider

like this that is not known, he's only had a few select

mountains and you see a ride a couple of months for one

specific Barn. I'm like I'm going to keep

betting this guy. This Barn is going to put him is

putting them on a live one and no matter how live of amount he

is, he's not going to get bad and hammered like a traditional

other name, writer in the so-called circuit.

So honestly I don't know much but I know that if you'd watch

with the bars had his writing, their specific markers that are

thrown him good bones. So you're going to get good

prices and some of these right over there riders that are not

you know, familiar Rider just because of the name alone.

So I think you know I think most notably we in Southern

California for my experience. It's a lot of writer money as

well. The Pratt's are going to get

hammered the Jade. You're Hannah's going to get

hammered, no matter what horses they are, but he can find an

Edward Maldonado. And also Gore Diego, Rivera,

who's nighttime and daytime that.

They're on a very live shot. You're going to get probably a

very good price of good fair price on those specific Riders

just because they don't they don't get that many mounts.

So Aguilar, I think has had a handful of winners already.

If I were required, So I yeah I don't mind trusting him.

Yeah couple this fall at least. Yeah and so know it's an

interesting a little sequence at the end of the card here, all

the horse racing, happy out here, hanging out with those

vacant Ursula's ponies on Twitter.

Of course, go find him. The finest logo in a horse

racing is the lowest ponies logo.

I want to ask you about this, double bed, who came up with

this idea, because I think it's a really, really good idea.

It's a good idea. So we'll have the Daytime

Nighttime double Daily Double here on Saturday night.

I lo saw being offered. That is going to tie up.

The first leg will be the grade one Starlet, which is the last

rule. Some the daytime program to the

last race in the nighttime Chrome, which is the Great One

champion of champions 750,000 our first.

So that's going to be a date night, double at Los Alamitos.

I don't know who who came up with the idea.

But our Mark, our director of marketing, and publicity, and

also, because it's Orlando, who cares, I'm sure he had his hand.

I'm pretty sure he had his hand in the cookie jar for that, for

that suggestion. So a tip of the cap to the

management at loss on me. For offering this double, you

know, I'm a big Daily Double guy.

So, this is right up my wheelhouse.

So I'm going to get involved with the lake with that double.

And again, it connects the Starlet to the champion

Champions at night. Yeah, so the last race on both

cards race. I'd erase it on the respective

cards. Let's talk about that champion

of champions because, man, this is there's a bunch of

heavyweights in this. Yes.

I mean, bomb Cyclones in this race Dodgers in this race.

You get, of course, a political pence in this race.

And then on the outside, of course, you're going to get get

impress impress them. And this is, I mean, this is

look, if a political offense wins this race and go 646 this

year, in the company that he has been in.

Help me out as a guy who goes mostly Thoroughbred stuff.

How so how legendary of the season on the court or side is

that? So, I'll tell you this about the

champion a champion. So to compare it it's kind of

like the Breeders Cup Classic, right?

But in the case is not only the British club plastic but it's a

burden for classic where you can just point to the Send be

nominated and pay your way into it.

You have to win your waist into the cabinet.

Abby's their specific races throughout the year that are

births of the champion of champions.

And then there's other races that worry if you make it into

second or third or what are, you might receive an invitation.

So think of it at the championship, the British cup of

British Cup Classic, but you have to get invited by your

resume or you got to win your race your way in.

So not only is it that big of a race but it's you can just say

I'm going to point to this. Bridge is complete.

Except I've got my nominations, I'll pull my horse there and

we'll run know either. Got to be good enough to win to

win a big important race to make it a champion campus, or you

have to receive an invitation based on your resume.

So, just to put it into terms for the Third Reich guys.

This is at about a sensational of a field in the championship a

as its ever had ever now I'm not talking five years, ten years

ever in the history of Captain canvas at Borgata long time

listening to some announcer here.

Hello sir. You said I've called 38 39

champion of champions of my career.

This is the best one I've ever felt file.

However, so for him to say that that tells you how legitimate

does feel this. And, and so, I mean, back to

that question, I asked you if a political pets can actually, of

course, if a pull, if a political pets can pull it out,

what does that mean for, for the year?

For the, I mean, just for I mean, it's incredible and exact

he's gonna be, he's gonna say Man himself in the history books

because there's only been one other horse to win this race

three times. That was refrigerator.

So he's going to win this. If he wins this race, it will be

his third straight year, winning it.

And on top of that, that's going to make it a perfect 22 season

for him. So not only is he going in

history books, he's going to be named AQHA world championship

for the year. A cachet World Championship

horse for the year if he wins this race on Saturday night.

So not only is it already a big thing to have in your resume.

But this will be elevated to a history books type of thing.

If April April local Pensa ends up pulling it off once again so

let's talk about making money though.

Yeah we're going to try to try to make money on this.

I think we got to try to either beat him or use him with someone

not being faced in the first tray.

Yes. Yeah.

Yes though. I'm not tell you about the soda,

I'm kind of leaning towards the outside Runner.

I think that Runner could really jump up a big racer for take me

18. Obviously the bastards are going

to be tough to beat but I think blessed touch, just the way she

looked in that made in the plum, on, I know last time actually

running to that freak just sneak, but she Bliss touch to a

finished almost seven weeks. Clear third.

So, I think with her speed they're going to try to be

aggressive. So I would, I would definitely

use blessed touch to start the the early double.

And I'm going to try to beat 80 political, pension the

championship, and the champion of champions.

I think the two horses that absolutely Drew were, they want

to draw without a doubt, our bomb Cyclone did three-year-old

on. Well, yep, and then impress them

on the outside and press of one. The rest of the maturity from

the outside post earlier this season.

You look Sensational to me. He he wants it outside posed to

kind of get going, get his motor under him and get that clean

path to run. So I'm going to try to beat a, a

political fence. I'll go bomb Cyclone as my top

pick, I'll go and press them and my second Peak here, I know bomb

cycling is a three-year-old trying to face on their here in

the spot but he's just looks Sensational at Los Alamitos.

He loves. As the inside post and I think

he's going to run a big, big race and the championship a so

that is that bad like every other about there, is that a

dollar minimum, I believe. So don't don't quote me on that,

but I'll also me that usually have has $1 doubles, I would

assume it's the same way if not, it's going to be a two guard do.

But yeah that's that's what it should be.

What you think, matters more to the folks at La Salle that the

starlet's a grade 1 or that it's on the Oak Trail, you know?

Good. I don't know.

I think any time you can say you have a great one, I think it

holds its suede. Very we're very well.

So I would lean towards that just because anytime, you can

say, hey, we host a great one, I think that's, that would be a

little bit more, but I mean, it could go either way but

regardless it's produced some very, very nice forces over the

years and let's look forward to the Future Ready next weekend.

Yeah. Expect any runners to come back

from Breeders Cup weekend. Are we going to get a bunch of

new local? Shooters.

He, no good question. I, we know backwards going to be

representing their because he's always, whoever is present in

this, but I don't know who can be point.

I mean, who could be, will back in that race?

I do it. I do expect me to British

Governor or two to come back because we know we've had that,

that Gap in since then. So I wouldn't be surprised if we

see, maybe a few names that we already saw perform at a high

level, but I think the shirt thing is, is that we feel that,

you know, based on previous years, that Bedford will be.

Well, we're presenting their a, so it will be tough to beat,

with whatever he shows up in that race.

More likely winner, this weekend in the Starlet or in the

champion of champions. What do you think I would say?

Just because baffert has dominated that race.

Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I would go that way.

That route Chuck a was talking about six legit 45 legit.

Championship caliber Runners facing off the.

I can't stress enough. How big of a matchup we have in

the champion of champions? Because every big name is in top

form. Nobody has really thrown a

Punker. So, you know, when you get to a

big race and maybe the high from that runner at the middle of the

Year wasn't really, it's not really what it was.

No these Runners are coming in with their a game and I think

that that is going to make for a terrific show.

That awesome. Alright.

Well he is those ponies Jose Contreras actually the only

thing I haven't asked you, because I just got socials.

What is your son's name? Yes.

So, here we go. So my name Jose Contreras tried

but my middle name is Abraham, right?

So so we flipped it. His name is Abraham Jose

Contreras, so AK for sure, but Abraham Abraham is his name,

Abraham Jose Contreras, he's doing well, mama and baby are

doing great. It's it was quite a blast on

Sunday morning, Sunday morning. So If people were tuning into

the quarters on FanDuel to be that in Catch Me there and

they're not on social media. That's what happened.

I was over there. Coaching my wife.

You like, come on, baby. Come on, let's go.

Yeah, so and so so, so Abraham came into this world on Sunday.

We're having a blast at home. He's doing great, mom is doing

great. It soon enough we'll be talking

about his Taco preferences yes everything else it'll be good to

go. Well he is, he's whipping load

ponies on Twitter and make sure we tune in on Saturday for

everything, especially that star.

It and champion of champions double Jose, all these pregame

and talk to you soon. Hey fun.

Fun, Joan you as well. And

Love exact? Yes, yes.

All right. Let's let the new dad get out of

here. Yes, welcome to the club.

Mike, good to see you. Mike, thank you for having me

again and make sure you guys catches on the Sounders.

We can should be a fun weekend. Awesome.

All right. Here's Jose.

Contreras out there. It looks how I have a.

I have a strobe light going on in my in my room right now, my

well like you didn't hope you go back and watch the stream

because like I'm sure everybody was going off.

I popped up and then pop pop. 100 ghost I'm glad you're here.

Like I need to get reset up like I'm not kidding.

Like I have to move and I don't know what I'm gonna do.

So act just just just hold things down.

I'll be right back. This is fantastic.

We gotta get you a better light. Is what we just got to get your

own life, your own little, get it.

Yeah. And you'll be fine Mike you're

yes it up all this budget for a studio and you're not getting

low alike. Come on.

Well he's gonna, you know, I'm actually at the office right

now, getting our new studio kind of set up and it's going to be

good. So I think Louis my Maybe, I

don't know. Has he done?

Done? Zach, is he is it?

Oh no, he's just resetting up. Okay, there we go.

So we'll get set up in and we'll get the show back on.

We appreciate it, buddy, streaming.

I'm making the rare December appearance.

Yeah, it's good to have you. So one of the things that we've

been talking about and I was thinking of you is the schedule

for this next year. So we're looking at, we've so

many big races. And after the Breeders Cup, we

have this year We're looking at expanding, you know, our

coverage in a lot of ways. Yeah, we've got some surprises

coming up that we're going to announce the next few months.

We've been missing Mike, but one of those surprises and that I

missed having it was that we are going to have a studio setup.

Yeah, we are going to have a studio set up.

I was taught, you know, Lily wants to step up the production,

the show a little bit. Especially since what was our

video like we were like one of the top 5% in the world of my

guys were set in the World. Yeah, and so fi podcast, we got

people all over Place watching this stream has and Lily not had

a couple strategy sessions and it's been really kind of fun.

And but one of those things is a studio and I think still you we

just can't over produce a show. Like, I always I went back to

like the, I just went back to like the Wayne's World, right?

Like the Wayne's World movie like.

Yeah. And when they became when they

signed with Rob Lowe and then the show stopped being what it

was like we weren't getting, we aren't going to do that but we

don't be a what it was a long time ago if we don't.

If we don't have the strobe light and Louise basement, what

show are We really. So I actually have a box full of

life. I just picked up a Louise house

at sitting, just right out here right now.

What's there at his place now? Yeah.

So now they're here, and then we'll get all that set up.

But yeah, look for us for Louis and I to be in the same room.

I got a new pan tilt, zoom camera so that we can program it

and, you know, yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be legit.

Like, you know, everybody wants to see the Two Dads on video,

you know, so can I can I control it over?

Internet because I don't know our fourth year anniversary when

we're in our birthday suits. I want to get a nipple shot.

Just nipples only you know the exact we probably can rearrange

that, right? We could probably forget the

button up button down, it was so exciting.

But I have the piece about how to reform The Oaks points.

The Derby points going in and I thought they were giving it to

too many horses in with for and now, they've gone to five.

You can get one point from a derby prep race though and it

Oaks preparation, which I think is not the way to go and I

thought they devalue the early races.

Like if you win the Starlet it's a grade 1.

If you win at this weekend going, 10 points right now, I

would guess for someone like bathroom.

It's way less about the Ten Oaks points away more about having a

filly. That was a great one, you know,

and that's obviously fine and for breeding and whatever else,

but I propose they moved the three spots, win place show.

That's who gets the points up the number of points for the

early races, so that you actually I think the way to

entice more horses into these races is to incentivize them as

the way to get to qualify. If you're good and you're late,

two-year-old, early three-year-old season and then

you cool off a little bit in March, but you did a good job.

Job around the turn of the year, you don't have to be totally

penalized by getting 14 points for two showings or something

like that. Especially if you win a great

one for example and so I don't know.

I'll just give the lie. I like if you went in a gray one

and in December and the rest of the horses, kind of catch up to

you, you're not one of the best three-year-old Phillies but

race, huh? And you'll win 50 or 100 Point

Race. I mean, that's, yeah, I want I

want the best horses because what we're doing now is the

third place. Finisher in a tent on a plate

race isn't is the $14. Well my question would be you

know I'd rather have a bunch of winners in there.

That's all. Yeah but I mean you would

probably want to see that horse continue to grow and develop

over the stretch you know and so that horse should be good enough

to get to the third place of 100-point race.

And yeah, so I mean, you know, I agree with you.

I mean, I think, especially in the derby Trail.

We know the typically, the winners matter, although I don't

know what matters, what the Derby more.

It's been so weird ever since John Asher passed away, we still

haven't had like a like every year has been a different story

since John Astor has passed away.

Dirty was totally normal exactly last year service, totally

normal. We had a closer wind on 88 211.

The longest shot in the field wins.

Everyone's 25% of the nerd is the last 16 years.

I think it's totally. But not not with the point

system. Country House did okay, but that

is again, was a weird situation. We had to have some horse

disqualified, okay, but we haven't had a legit.

Do you think mine that bird was a legit or not?

Legit dirty? That wasn't a point system.

Race wasn't looking very legit Derby.

It was a, it was a legit Derby for the.

When we had quite system have to change.

If mine that bird was legit or not.

Well, the difference between me from the point system and

actually, we saw with last year's Derby is that the point

system is all but eliminated, rabbits being in the race, which

is really kind of July's, the closures.

So before the points is, we saw closers went in all the time.

We rarely saw stalkers, we rarely people saw people go wire

to wire. Yeah, alright, so now with the

point system and we had more route Runners and we eliminate

the rabbit, which again last year, we had the rabbit for the

first time with some summer, was a summers tomorrow.

I can't remember what it was that the name of the horse,

something like that. Right?

You know, that's when we start, we open it up for the closer.

So So like if we want the best route Runners, the point system

is great for that and it gives you the best route Runners who

are peaking at the right time. And so I actually think that I

think it's good. I don't know if we need go out

to fifth point, you know, the only reason for me to go out to

fix this would be a 20-point for the winter.

Five points for second, two points for third, just value the

winners little more one. Yeah, you want a great one, you

get 20 points, that's how I see it.

I mean, I don't know the point system, I don't know the Derby

prep season really cares about the great.

Steak system, like I think they're gonna pin it together.

Yeah, well, I point to is like the star, let the La Salle

fraternity as tried on a bunch of really good horses, right?

I mean, that's where baffert has groomed a bunch of really great

horses for using him. As an example, Doug O'Neill the

same, right? That kind of thing.

So to me, it's like, where do great horses come from the

Florida. Derby is one of those races in

Arkansas. There is one of those races

Santa Anita obviously, excuse me.

And so that's that's what I'm getting at is like, let's If

your, if your path to the derby is a fruitful one.

Let's let's reward it. Even if that's earlier in the

part of the in the earlier parts of the path.

That's just how I feel about it. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, I just think there's too much development that occurs and

you look back this year, by the way, showed by his form, at

Churchill Downs. That the rubies are reasonable

prep for the Derby. Mmm, he showed it again in the

Lucas, right? I mean, so it's not like I bring

you never won again. Comes up in the Lucas.

Right? I mean, it's what's that?

He didn't win again, that's because his jockey decided to

fall off the side of them. A try to Elbow.

Sometimes still didn't win. Okay.

Bye Mike. It's been nice to see you.

Listen you want me to push back a little bit, right?

I mean that's like it's the end of day horses and showed good

form. Very, I agree with that.

I was very disappointed, of course, with the Clark but again

that was on short rest and I don't know, it's very horse.

Running the Clark and like trains, I really wish we would

have seen him not run the classic and you just go straight

to Clark and really see what Out there, I think different horse,

I think he was exhausted. Look like I tend to agree with

that but go and again, I so I don't know if I'm going to go as

far as the state that their rubies legit, just based off

this one last derby again because I think it was such an

anomaly for us to have that rabbit horse in the race.

And, you know, I because I'm a big Trend guy when it comes to

the trends that for the Derby, since the point system, come on.

But everything since the again, if since John a she passed away.

Everything's up in the air. If Rich strike doesn't make that

perfect move. Yeah, either wins the Derby and

we don't think anything of the rabbit at all.

We think nothing of it it just happens that Sunny Leone makes

the perfect move in the stretch of Churchill Downs and so I

think at each other almost the exact same spot.

It's so like right after driving for that move like it's almost

like Summers like when the horse is dropping back, it opens up

the lane for for extracting make the movements.

So do I mean I just Means just horse racing.

That's kind of the nature of it once in a while the longest shot

in the field wins. And in that way, you J Clarke,

the Derby is just like every other words race.

Yeah. Yeah, you know, it would be

interesting just to see what the difference of the fractions

would have been and how that race really would have unfolded

without the rabbit in the race. But, you know, and I guess it's

not really a true rabbit, you know, because it's not like a

trainer put the horse in there to dictate the parent.

It just happened to that horse and I guess this would be This

would be my argument against what you said.

Like, sometimes those two year old races tend to be non to turn

races. Right.

And so like, who's if it's a great one, that's a 1, turn race

and we get a sprinter who pops up and use, you know, he gets in

the field, like it changes, it can change the complete and

total complexion of the race to me.

That's shame on the Derby Trail for having that as turning

points are okay, I can get on board with that.

I think the Starlet we're in December, two-year-old year,

going to turns To me, it's a 24-hour race for the winner to

me. That's, it's a no-brainer.

But what do you think is more important grade 1, status of the

Starlet, or the fact that it's on the of show?

Well, I would say if it was supposed to let me rephrase that

in a way that it's probably unpopular, but I'd say, if it

was, if it was a derby prep, I would say that the importance of

being a derby prep and but maybe 30 more important that it's a

great to order for 10 points. I mean, again we know how

important that triple creme not unless I want to actually bring

this up to you, I don't know. Did you see Pollux tweet about

the Triple Crowns like ruining horse racing or whatever it was?

Is it was a story by another guy that he kind of redid it.

And again at first off, I don't the Triple Crown is one thing

but the it's the Derby that matters.

But let's not pretend like the Preakness and Belmont matter.

If the independent, the Derby, the Derby matters.

And that's the one race that really meant that really catches

the attention of everything. So, I would say that you, you

know, that the two things that impact your braiding potentials.

Moses to probably have a Kentucky Derby.

Winner is the number one thing you can do to for your breeding,

right? Then the I could, if you had a

Kentucky Derby Runner, I don't know how much that matters.

So the from that prep standpoint, but you can

obviously have a winner unless you're in the race and then you

go to the like, what's that gray ones outside of that?

What's that Black type? Kind of look like?

So I think that's what we're coming out to.

Okay, Derby points. You want to talk about the rebbe

said in the demo Zone. No, but we can if you really

want to. I mean I just want to just talk

about how, how good it'll an hour at picnic picnic making our

selections. Go Rhapsody.

Outfield comes for the top of the stretch w&l on the outside

of Arctic air against the two of them are right together as they

head for home, 3/4 and 1 12 and 112 ski guillermin is all out in

third. But now four lengths from the

lead as they come down for the eighth pole Arctic arrogance on

the inside and wnl on the outside.

The To have separated themselves from the rest of the field WL on

the outside narrowly. Arctic arrogance continues to

battle on, they come on for the finish and it is W del Sol in

the Remsen. Let's call for Johnny, I there.

I um so something you and I like to look for Mike in these races

is running style and will that translate to a winning Derby

that that kind of running style right off the right off?

The leader is an absolute winning style.

Now, it's in the slop, it's an aqueduct.

The Remsen is as good a predictor for the Derby, as the

Rico, tessio is for the Preakness, it's terrible.

And so who knows, especially in a slop if it's worth a damn, as

a predictor but horse to watch because that's in running style

that could absolutely win the Derby or at least be in

contention for the Derby. Yeah, definitely.

You see how it comes way? I mean, we had we had three

obvious top of the field horses and you saw two of them kind of

coming down the wire right there.

And, you know, at this point you got to you got to give a look

and and then again these New York horses, do they stay in New

York or do they choose to go to? Florida.

I always think that's kind of fascinating to you, as far as

what path, they end up taking, right?

And the word, of course, it horriffic predictor for Success,

often, you have a serious Contender, your take your taking

the horse, down to Florida, you're gonna see what happens

down there. All right.

So Julie assigning one, the demos out and Aqueduct getting

those Kentucky Oaks points. Of course, we know how big a

race this is Louis stretch. This is incredible, right?

The lead right there is tribal Queen and on the outside is

Royal Spa. Julia shining is out in the

middle of the track along with affirmative a lady and now

they're coming for the eighth pole and Julia shining is coming

on. Now on the outside here comes

Julia shining up to grab the lead with a 16 to the Finish but

affirmative lady is right there. Along with gambling girl.

They come out for the finish in the demoiselle Julia.

Shining want it Julia shining Nest Mal.

That Lake Avenue Wonder Gadot. Those are your previous winners

of this race and Julius shining being the full sister.

Yes to mouth that this race 100%.

And I think when we saw in the Breeders Cup juvenile fillies,

the two horses that were the two favorites.

Come in first, come in second to last and last, and that race.

And then we have seen the rise of the Julia shining Philly as a

serious Contender right now for For the Oaks.

And then, of course, the Hoosier Philly.

I don't know right now. I mean, we 100% did not see the

best two-year-old Phillies in the race in and the Breeders

Cup, juvenile fillies correct. There's no question about it.

Right now, the Hoosier Philly is getting my vote for Champion.

Two year old Filly of the year. What about you?

I agree with you. I have her.

If I had Derby points out right now.

She'd be first and the Derby's points.

Yes. So there you go.

So I mean, I think it's that kind of hear me.

Just crude on and on about that horse.

Last week, I am by the way. Jillian, shining faster Echo

base figure coming out of this race the nest and and she looks

incredible in difficult conditions Louis I think when in

the crap that's right. Yeah I mean it wasn't just a

little crap. It was it was rain all day.

It was not fun to race in at all and so that huge performance

right there by Julia shining three straight wins in that race

for Todd Pletcher. Three different jockeys, Mallet

that nest and Julia shining John Velazquez irad Ortiz.

And this year, Luis saez who sneaky in awesome year for the

resize this year, the track. And so now I'm just a couple of

good preparations there at Aqueduct last weekend even in

the slot. They did a nice job that's good,

I'm good day racing out there. All right so I want to just go

back and I know you haven't read it yet so it's a little unfair.

But this whole this tweet that Pollock racing hat out about and

good. Let's go.

Huh, let's do this. Good I just wanted to say, like,

you know, I it's such a popular take of horse racing, people to

say that the Triple Crowns ruining horse racing and makes

the rest of the racing Obsolete. And, you know, then we get a

winner of the Kentucky Derby races, two or three more times

and then they retire them to stud and and so that we don't

see him race, an older ages, and whatever else.

And, you know, maybe the rest of horse racing, should see what's

special about that moment and try to replicate it or they

could listen to this freaking show where we tell you to fall

in love. Love with the Phillies and

Mayors. Anyway, absolutely sure about

this lazy take every year. I mean, I guess it's the glamour

race. I get it.

But have you had as much fun on an ox days?

You had on the Derby Day? Absolutely, of course.

What are we doing? Yeah, course this is this is how

lazy this is. I mean it's unbelievable.

I mean that's at the same time, Louis like the idea that it's

that this would be like someone complaining, you know, we need

to get rid of March Madness through any help.

Well, that's because it's what was it be?

Of the big army being say. It's just ruining basketball in

general, but it to be Davis, wanted on terrible for college

basketball, winning the national title terrible, the triple crown

and all these prep races from all these different tracks and

all these different regions is the one time that the sport

unifies for a common purpose, okay?

And then we operate in silos and then at so you want to talk

about what it is? It's like because you can't get

your crap together outside of the Triple Crown, to like we

talked about it at Breeders Cup. We had people in Kentucky, who

people who, you know, obviously follow children more than you

guys had basically, no idea who flight line was, NBC did nothing

to promote that. They were going to see one of

the baddest motherfuckers on the planet.

Were explicit. Now by the way.

No, you know that that should have been leading up Sunday

Night Football. You should have had all these

promos. The Breeders Cup is like tuned

to see flight line tune in to see Flightline.

Tune, is to fly line. We can't, they can't get out of

their own way because everyone's trying to protect their own turf

instead of actually making the sport better so it has nothing

to do that. The Triple Crown is ruining

horse racing. Do you know what our

highest-rated show outside of the Breeders Cup shows were in

the fall? You told me and I can't

remember, Marilyn billion Bay. Oh, yeah, that's right.

Yeah, Marilyn billion day. Yeah, freaking Maryland million

day because the people in Maryland know that the whole

year leads to that day, right? They've got it right in

Maryland. For example, I'm giving us an

example on purpose, they get it right.

Everyone knows what that day is in Maryland.

Our numbers were massive in Maryland and Delaware and you

know Pennsylvania please around there and I think the Breeders

go try to tries to do with the Breeders Cup Challenge Series

but for whatever reason it just Is this the mark, the winning

your in is different than, you know, the point system and you

got check, standings, and you got to see where you're at and

it just, it just doesn't hit it in these.

It doesn't it doesn't bring all the tracks together again to

kind of for one comment. A more one common purpose the

way that the Triple Crown does and so quit complaining and

actually look at what the Triple Crown does, right?

And maybe try to emulate that with their other stars in the

sport so that we can actually The sword instead of just trying

to live in some sort of stupid, scarcity, mindset of protecting.

What's yours? The well, is that I gotta jump

in for a second. Listen.

When it comes on and goes on a rant, that's the name of this

episode. All right.

Gotta let listen Louis, and I went to Big Ten universities and

second-tier college football universities exactly.

As you say the second tier that's good.

There used to be a lot of. And this is a hot, a bit of a

hot take. There should be a lot of noise

about how much Me the football team spent on the stadium on the

training facilities, all that stuff, but you know who brought

the money in for Sports football.

Exactly. Right.

And by the way, not just for sports, right?

For other things too. I mean, you're absolutely you

think the business school gets more donations if Ohio State

wins a national championship? You're absolutely absolutely.

But basic biomedical exactly. Horse racing in the United

States. No other set of races.

No other race. If you think of it as just the

Derby like you said generates near as much money as those

races for horse racing on a publicity perspective.

Now you go to the Breeders Cup and that race makes more money

for actual Barnes than any other race because the auctions

happen, the big champions win there, they stood out but no

other race makes more money from the public.

Than the Triple Crown. It sucked like 63% of tracks in

the United States. Their biggest attendance days

the Derby. And it doesn't matter if they're

running enough and, and exactly. And I think to your point, those

act like it, we're then we're only segmenting like that.

We're only that the three year old males matter, I mean, it's,

um, and that's not the case. We have other things in the

sport that could really be That could really be the star of the

show, but the sport just can't promote itself.

There's got to be some sort of unifying cause to get everybody

to stop acting so independently. So it won't happen though.

I don't know, maybe it will happen.

We'll see you at lujah. Yeah.

What else is going on? We have low Style handicapping

on the on the on the card here, my friend, I love it.

So on the Green Sheet this weekend on Saturday, I've got

the lake for dollar minimum out of my sails to the Palace, tend

to be better and people can't press the all button and easily

with a $1 minimum so forces you to actually hit a gap.

And so we'll play the lead pick for outed will sell reminder.

They do have that. Two dollar traditional pick six

so you don't it's not a jackpot pick six, they just pay it.

If you hit and take out his really really reasonable on that

as well. So it takes a lot of ponies had

a baby like five days ago. I love it, man.

That's awesome. It's a fantastic and Abraham

glad to hear he's doing. Okay, that's good.

Yeah. So, all right, well Louise,

going to go, go to work for us for the show.

He's going to go take a little trip to Chicago tomorrow and

he's gonna go get the. He's gonna go, do the damn

thing. Six and a half hours, no less

than that. So, Open six hours.

Yeah and so he's going to go get it down for us and we're in the

hopefully we're going to come back and have a whole bunch of

announcements like that Zach was kind of talking about.

We want to bring the show to the people and we want to try to

just increase what we do. You know, I think one of the

things that you will see from us whether or not, we're the

platform is, is we're going to try to do some more work on

having on helping the new better who finds us to find our showed,

just giving them some education tools on how to bet.

How to handicap. So look for some of those things

that will kind of exist and and it's going to be great.

So Louis it was good to see you on a December evening.

As I came here to play with my new toys.

Somebody's got the uh-huh. Tennis is there?

Yeah I guess they say the Immaculate Conception day today.

Yeah. Ten days.

Well I see for y'all. Well I see it's right.

All right. All right.

Brother Zach, take care. Play us out because I don't have

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So late for starts right six. Low cell by the way if you

wanted to get in the early pick five, super low take out races 1

through 5. There is no late pick five at

low cell because they really push that pick six pool usually

gets Into the six figures. They only run sticks.

They're over at dates. So you have to get lucky to

catch a carryover. If you do it's really a very

lucrative. One always in the six figures

carries on to the next day but like I said because it's a two

dollar traditional. You have 26, you get paid,

that's how it goes. It's not a carryover or a

jackpot. I should say but late pick for

starts 36, it's a claim or not to lifers.

That means horses that have. Never once you racist for

three-year-olds, it up six and a half for lunch on the dirt.

Drinking water to hydrate, sixteen thousand dollars to

claiming prize for 25k on the purse.

Interesting things that I don't know if you've ever watched the

route races at low salvat that final turn there's a bit of a

Veer to the right and then here to the left actually has that in

common with Kentucky Downs of all freaking tracks in the world

and so a little bit of that in this race, some horses seem to

like it some don't and for that reason I'm going to lean on a

horse that broke his Maiden here to pull an upset here.

In the first leg. And I mentioned him when Jose

was on a nice guy, clay Edgar Paris is on this horse Edgar

knows this course. He's there all the time.

You'll notice next to his name and says, oh, he hasn't run any

races here that's because this is the Thoroughbred neat.

Not the nighttime meet Edgar's there at night.

He knows the course, the running him in there on the scores

during the daytime because he does not the course.

And so he's on nice guy. Clay, broke his Maiden, 76 feet.

Figure immediately going five and a half.

Four logs were going six and a half year.

Since then the horse has been running in better company Delmar

Santa. Anita back at Del, Mar gets to

drop back into the claiming class here at 16k at low cell.

I'm hoping that that kind of drop these connections, can get

us a good start in the pic for if not, this is the leg where

I'm going to be spreading the most.

You can look at the to 10:00 to 1:00 in the morning line here,

which I love and I'm looking at the, the corner watching that.

It's not major value in these races.

Coronado flavor here one win in 10 goes.

But five times hitting the board and said races dropping back

into the 16 class here, for Sean McCarthy.

And Kyle Frey, two of them have teamed up a lot, but that's not

unusual confer. I still getting his, his feet

under him in Southern, California is sitting at 10%

though. This year down there, a massive

sample size. So you starting to find his way

down there as well. The horse has been training

really well. It's an Anita really fast times

been doing really, really well, it's cutting back from a mile

which I really like because the horse In the races where it is,

it does its best is going to stalk in position.

And then catches the horse at the end has less talking to do

in this case, right? If we're going six and a half,

maybe can be really effective on that extra little bit of a turn

at the top of the stretch and that's kind of My Hope here

after that, I'm going to lean on the on the for which is the

favorite here with chipper. This is why I asked about argue

Arc with with with Jose. Yep, man, this guy's a brand-new

unknown and only thirty two races run or 31 the whole year

so far in Southern California. Sometimes these are just guys

that are good exercise, right? For her folks and the guy says,

hey, get your license. Get up here for me.

I need you to run some of these races.

He's only carrying 114 pounds are going to add 10 to make it,

you know, for that apprenticeship, ran the sports

last time to a good third place. Finish at Del Mar F6 in a 64

long race for on July 1st at the 32 level.

That's why this horse is the favorite here because he's

dropped 30 2216. I'm going to try to beat The

Apprentice here who doesn't have a lot of LaSalle experience.

And so that's the only reason I have this horse in third place,

so I think you can win. Of course.

Yes, I do. That's why I'm including them in

the ticket. I then look inside to me decode,

the one is dropping out of that same exact race, we're in sixth

in that race from at Del Mar. I think in job back and be a

part of the equation here and then look to the 6 here and I do

not have numbers on the, you know, I apologize, 34 Mater.

Oh, my voice. I am so sorry.

Folks for for Paul McGuire here. Has run really, really good

speed figures of late, 69, 70 and 68.

Coming out of Delmar, has been running into claiming class

there. I'm just hoping that maybe

they'll oh Sal relief will do something here.

So I'm going to use Five Horses, 3 to 4 1 and 6 in this leg.

Because I do think you can go really skinny at the end of this

is the end of this, there's a part of the ticket and then in

the next race of course is Maiden special weight 47,000.

I wanted to make a comment here. So mate, a Mainstay of our

Mainstay of Northern California racing, Jonathan Wong young guy,

33 years old trainer is moving to Kentucky.

So surprised one of the reasons he's moving to Kentucky is they

just ran a seventy thousand dollar Maiden special weight

interpolated night, Saturday made especially when talking

about Turf way, man, a lost. It lost Angeles.

Yeah. Forty-seven thousand dollar and

dust, it's just creating different classes in horse

racing. I am.

Yeah, we're going to have that gentleman on later in the

winter. I'm a little worried because

because John Wong fills up a lot of those fields in Northern

California and I'm a little worried about that, we'll see

where that goes. 47 K of Mi this is for fork out for

two-year-olds here. Maidens that are going a mile to

turns over that course. I'm only using two horses here.

And there the horses with experience Mike McCarthy, has

Navy, man in here the to horse with with Lobby and Pratt.

And then Gilmore's in here for one Hernandez about baffert

Neither horses gone to turns good news.

Bob baffert only go Sprint around 32%, horrible percentage

and then Sprinter out for Mike McCarthy at 13%, but I trust

both of the jockeys. I trust both of the trainer's.

I think you can go a little bit skinnier here in this race and

use those two horses. The eighth race is where I'm

really taking my stand-in on only using Charlotte's Harbor.

Charlotte Harbor, the third of the 3 horse here.

Excuse me, Flavia Pratt jumps aboard for body of Vladimir

Sarah. Interesting thing here is trying

to go 343 after losing his first eight races, You might say

Louis. That's why.

Well, two for two in the, the new barn seems to be that they

figure this horse out. Also, we get Flavia Pride for

the second time. Last time for having those on

The Source 1 by 6, and a quarter lights at the 32 thousand dollar

claim. Level at cellmark, we're

dropping into 25 at La Salle, to me that tells me that this horse

is ready. This is the spot that it wants

to be and by the way I think that horse is like 825 the to

horse ever leaves girl is 925. So me I would much rather have

Charlotte Harbor at the recent Forum, Flavia and Pratt that I

would Edwin Maldonado and the spotty recent form of ever lose

girl. So I'm going to single here.

Whoo, take my stand here with the three and a half and then

we're going to the last, I guess what we're doing again, folks,

we are singling again. I'm trusting Bob baffert to win

this race, for the 912. Time in a row, Yeah, I mean,

this is his race faces in this race and I think she's a budding

possible superstar. I think this is Gervin is coming

out party this year as a sire six thousand dollar breeding

cost this horse. Sold for 725. 100 X Plus yeah

the breeding cost that is unheard of folks.

That is not what happens in this sport.

The Petersons are Michael Peterson was a source, 74 first

time outbreaks, her maiden Jose management.

So she wins by three and three. Half likes are really cuccos

back in looks unbelievable. The next time out the horse who

finished second to me this is this is this is backwards

wheelhouse two-year-olds 32% Sprint around. 32% one last

start, they come back at 38% he hits right now with Fabio credit

42% to me, folks. Sometimes it's sometimes we try

to look at numbers and we try to figure out how to beat horses

and do other things once, while classical class and just

classical classes, okay? Just You see folks class, no

class walk away if you done with it in my in my opinion you go 33

in the last two races here. Stop thinking about it.

I think, by the way, I know it's a dollar minimum for the pic

form. Play this for Two Bucks, play

for three bucks, play for five bucks, grasp the pick for or go

play that pick-six because, you know, you go a little skinny at

the end. I think that's absolutely in

play this weekend. Usually, I wouldn't touch a

two-dollar pics at most a because it's like, holy crap.

What do I do in this race? What do I do in this race?

It feels a lot less like that, this weekend.

I think there's some class in these last two races and I think

you could lean on it. And so, again, Go check out that

that that sequence in the The Green Sheet, green tea

racing.com and go check that out.

We want more of our West Coast listeners.

Go check out Green Street Racing by the way, you guys are not

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So don't watch this show and driving, this is what I'm

getting at would be if we lose you as a watcher as a listener,

that would be really, really bad.

So, 11 layperson question here. I was listening to you and those

ponies talk Dan and this is with with all the talk with, I like

about about Oaks, right? The point for Oaks the points

for Derby just Bob baffert. Just start to spike people and

take those points races. Well, that's the thing.

And this is what I wanted to get into He doesn't get the points

and all the Derby. People do is just slide horses

up a slop. Yeah.

That's so if you come back into a bathroom horse, who's going to

get tested in California? Yep.

You get first place points. Anyway, what are we doing?

Do you have a loser horse in that race?

Yep. You shouldn't get winter ports.

And II feel really strongly about this actually?

No, I agree. There we go, my Johnson.

No. I mean that's like the reality

is to that like Do we need more horses for those races?

I don't think we do, like you those The Oaks the Derby.

They get enough horses that want to race.

So you shouldn't be leveraging up points.

You should be making them earn it.

Yeah. I that part.

I very much agree on if you finished fifth in this race, but

the baffert's finish. One, two, three.

You should get second place points.

Yeah. And someone will Yeah, very,

very backwards. It's very backwards.

Yeah. I mean, you got to win.

Even if Bob baffert knocks you out, you gotta with it.

You know, they took the 2013 banner down here in Louisville

for the national title, you know, who didn't put it up,

Michigan, right? They weren't like, oh, they had

hookers great. We're gonna put up a banner

Especially love the Oaks. It's not a good way to award

those flights and I wish they would stop doing it, but I do

expect. It feels like a coming out party

for phase of this weekend. And like I said, if you're if

you're in the Gervin, if you're that Gervin breeding shed, man,

you are praying. That's exactly what happens to

6, G's. Not a lot of money, 60 G's

Allah. Yep.

Yep. A big big difference there.

So, all right, well, as Mike mentioned, I'm off to Chicago

tomorrow hanging out with our folks, a Green Sheet racing were

brainstorming for next year to be hanging out with them and

this spring as well. And so, Try to make our

partnership and what we do with them even better and so

hopefully all that will go. Well tomorrow and my flights

aren't Material that you have rights.

Oh man, I don't fly back in a long time.

Two more shows, what for the year for 2022?

Yeah, I mean that are going to be the Thursday shows.

Yeah, I might do a feature show before.

Yeah, of course. We'll definitely have yes if

1527 for sure. Yeah.

Okay. No.

I think next week, I'm a tribal house key US Federal join us.

And then shoot for Pat Cummings on the 22nd.

Issues important but mostly gambling should be a lot of fun.

They'll stop eternity next weekend and then you know, it

does start to pick up, I mean I know people laugh at me but

stake schedule gets interesting interplay coming up to and

waiting for like the turf Sprint winner to come out of Turfway

and look, I really am like or like?

Yeah, I'm with you. And so we'll, we'll start to see

some of those areas as well and we'll get into those as we go.

But this has been the horse racing.

Happy are go ahead and play us out.

Zach, we will see you next week. Whether it Close.