Kicking off 2023 with Matt Rybaltowski and Louis’s Pick 3 for Aqueduct

All right, everybody. Welcome in brand-new 2023

addition. Horse racing.

Happy hour. I'm your guy Louis Robo, hanging

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And I mean, wherever you might be in the world happy new year.

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We are drinking the 100-proof Cooper's craft from our friends,

brown-forman down the street here in Louisville, and I'm

going to take the band Off of the cigar because they did not

pay me to smoke it and then I'm going to talk to my friend, Matt

Rebels, house key back of the house how are you tonight?

Great, Happy New Year, we were going to have you on your

birthday and then you decided to become.

I don't know if it's a term but in plagued I think is the term

that is correct for you. So if you care to share with the

audience, what happened to you, Your birthday, you poor guy but

yeah I went to Vegas for a gaming industry conference and

my sister lives in Philly. So so I flew back there and it

was completely fine drove back to the Albany area on my

birthday and started to feel it. You know, coughing

intermediately. Felt a little fatigued.

I also got fatigued. Are we freezing?

Is everyone Frozen? Welcome to the horse racing.

Happy hour. This is your host zehner because

my other hosts have left. New Year.

Mike's not back yet. Still can't hear you.

Welcome back. Matt just like your birthday.

You brought with you the plague Louis and Matt, let's go.

Well, who's going to tell us? What is that soup whiskey?

Yeah, a little tea tea and homie.

You have an awesome Zach I do live in Austin.

Awesome. One of the things we're talking

about is because I got an RV. This last fall is looking at

some races in Texas and in Louisiana for this year that's

actually one of the surprises for this year is we're going to

possibly bring the RV out and we'll run the show from the RV.

The RV has its own Are not connection with with a on

sponsored company and so we'll get internet and we'll be able

to have like, it's about 110 square feet inside the RV when

you put it all out. So we've got fridge stove,

microwave Grill, all that stuff. And we'll be able to basically

have a lot of intimate man time, which will be nice.

Well yeah, very intimate, man time.

So I'm very much looking Good for you, that's good 11.

So there won't be that much into.

This is what we will be able to Hope is that we can do some

sit-down interviews and things like that at the RV and and not

have to worry as much about the pre and post-race stuff.

We can schedule stuff with people and say like, hey, you

know, before the race has started or the day after won't

you come out to the RV and will, Set up some chairs and a table

and pull you in for an interview.

Get out of the way so you guys can talk.

All right, so curious. There you go.

My apologies to everybody. I don't know if that was Matt or

B or both, but this is the horse-racing happy are back at

it with minute five, if you have stuck with us so far, we

appreciate you very much. Matt did you get through your

story of your horrific illness? So I think I would I was cut off

at the second when I, when I tested positive, you know that

it was always one of my birthday wishes over the last week.

Here's was positive and knock on wood.

I was good all throughout that time and on my birthday that was

someone's birthday present. I received was was a positive

test. So like I said before, I really

wanted to go on the show that week and take part in the

year-end review, but literally I cannot speak like you can come

out here and he texted me the night before you were like I

can't talk to you. About your article anyway and I

wanted to have you on to chat about it and because you know

we've talked on this show a lot and I'm sure people might be a

little tired of hearing about it, but who's going to be that

crossover, branding, that's going to be able to allow you to

not necessarily mingle the funds, obviously, for legal

reasons, but allowed you to use a single app to bet on Sports.

Bet on horses, I'll run the Gambit essentially and there was

a cool deal that happened in the fall or at least an interesting

to you. I shouldn't call it cool but an

interesting deal that happened in the Falk.

You tell the folks listening about that.

At. Yeah, yeah, it was, it was a few

weeks ago, to wrap things, became the official sports book

of Churchill Downs and what, what happened was before that at

the start of the year 2000 when spires for a while, took a shot

at sports betting and just really poorly to be frank in

some states. They only receive one.

Market share or so. And so, so, Churchill pull the

plug on on sports betting. But what you're saying among the

major operators? Now is that all of them are are

dipping their toes into sports betting.

So the new Venture is going to be called DK horse and so so

DraftKings is going to be the front-facing brand for For all

aw ADW wagering with with, or chill on the sports, betting

side. So with DraftKings in it and now

you have DraftKings and FanDuel points, bet Caesars and bet MGM

all have horse racing apps, so slowly.

But surely, you're saying the the sports book operators become

involved on the fourth side. So it's kind of weird that it

finally happened, kind of explain to people there's

there's a large difference between taking bets on Sports

and taking bets on horses because it's obviously you know

the pair of mutual thing is very different than betting against

the house, right? Can you kind of explain the

difference of how an outfit like decays get it gets paid through

a horse wager rather than, you know, betting, the Giants - 3,

something like that? Yeah, well you you'll see, you

know, especially in the pool. All the way that that different

favorites are priced. You see them in now in the

Kentucky Derby Futures, right? Maybe the lowest the lowest shot

on the board, Arabian Night is Arabian Night, and Forte.

There are around ten to Fifteen to one in the sports.

Betting, Futures pool like, like the bills, and the Chiefs odds.

Are much lower plus 350 on the bills in the four to five

hundred grains range for the Chiefs so that that benefits the

the better a little more on the horse racing side because his

odds are are better there. Yeah.

Only the coolest out come of it is that you have multiple spots

to go? Get those kinds of numbers,

right? Yeah.

That's so one of those competition, an area, right?

Yeah, yeah, there are in some states.

There are still regulatory changes that need to be made

because States prevent a tws from being in the comic, common

wallet for sports betting. So if you want to have an ADW

account and a sports betting account, add a, you know, our to

Draft Kings are a bet MGM it has to be separate, but that's

something that all the sports books are.

Working on to to get it all in the same channel there and

that's within you within those apps.

You'll be able to say let's say I hit a 10 to 1 horse and turf

way and I want to turn around and bet the Monday night game,

you know, herb. That's a bad example.

But the Thursday night game, something like that, you think

eventually you'll be able to move those funds over and make

that bet. Well yeah, those regulatory

changes need to be made but Eventually, it looks like that's

where the industry is, is headed and it's just a need to change,

right? Because yeah, I agree.

I think was known as patients and take those bonds and you

know, like oh, take your winner from Remington Park and then

edit on the bed and on the Jack's Titans game on Saturday

immediately after so no, it's cool.

It's so what's, what do you think the future is here?

Do you see a more Or I mean is it going to be slow like New

York and Florida? Get ahead of the game here and

then some other states figure it out or like a West Virginia gets

ahead of it because they always seem to be weirdly ahead of

things, the gambling site or Louisiana or something, or do

you see it more as once one of them doesn't most of them will

do it. Yeah.

Yeah. We talked about this book before

over the summer, with the proliferation of fixed odds and

I think I think a lot of states are taking a wait-and-see

approach and that they want. Fixed odds, take off.

And they want to see tangible proof.

That Bettors are really interested in it before other

states adopted. The biggest one is New York that

I think they, they want to see more evidence that, that betters

in New Jersey are interested before never bets adopts fixed

odds. And that's why It hasn't

happened yet. So yeah, maybe this summer for

the Saratoga meet, that's something that that New York

will consider. But again, there are, there are

legislative changes that are needed for fixed odds.

To be approved. Their current check out all of

his stuff. Where was that article actually

add? Which I, which of your sites for

the giraffe pings, one, that was a nurse I call.

The u.s. bats USPS.com, I think that's at u.s. underscore bets.

By the way, on Twitter, the funnel fun follow over there as

well. Well good, man, you know, we

talked about that it like the actually on this show we went

over that article and so hopefully people aren't you

tired of hearing about it but I mean, it look without the

gambling, this board, doesn't matter, right frankly.

And so have to go to some kind of Saudi model.

And frankly, the cash just as rolled around this country like

like it's out of your area. We need someone to pay for these

pools. So I voted on the eclipse award

for the first time ever this year, Matt.

And I know that there are and I heard somebody say the other day

they think that there needs to be more categories and I thought

good God what? Yeah no it doesn't need to be

more generous. People outside of horse that a

year and older dirt male going to Flightline.

Did you? Did you have one that you felt?

Maybe you were a little bit different on.

I think I don't know about you who he bought it.

I think. Yeah.

The most contentious one is Ismail Sprinter, right?

Yeah. I think that's her.

Yeah, because strike power be Jackie's Warrior.

And they're only mad soap and it happened to be the Breeders Cup

Sprint. You could argue that in his two,

most important races of the Year, Jackie's Jackie Warrior

lost, both of them. But on the other hand, he was

14, pretty big races. So yeah.

So it's probably between those two, I wouldn't really consider

Cody's wish Sprinter, you know, he he won the 77 Furlong race

before. Go against Jackie's, Warrior.

And then the dirt Mi do those two really aren't sprint races.

Think you have to look at a pure Sprinter as a sixth Borough

Longhorn. So if there's a two horses for

that category, it would be between those two.

Would you have Jack, Christopher, your top three

then? Yeah, probably yeah.

I he's one of those horses him and Matt Arabia on the

three-year-old side that I wish would have run just a little bit

more because I think they could have made some noise.

As I don't know, the matter is catching and asked are, you

know, a secret oath or spend a rail or something like that but

I think if she wins a couple more races she's interesting.

And then you know, Jack Christopher outside of going to

turns on the Haskell was freaking excellent.

Yeah. Against three year olds, right?

And may have gotten more play in that very complicated

three-year-old male category. I had job serve on for the last

of the Year interview episodes which you and I are continuing

now, where would you land on three-year-old male, if you have

them? So, so we go with every Center,

one modern games to and table 3, okay?

Those are my top three. I have them in a little

different of a doctor season. I had ended up putting modern

Games first because I think that his two best wins.

Are the two best wins by three rule this year.

And so I just I decided to put him in the first spot.

I did land on epicenter in the second spot because I do think

the Traverse field was probably the best three year old

restricted field and then I do have table third because I think

you can't You can't look past all of the grade W, right?

I mean it's a point. You have to give him credit.

I was right there with CyberKnife.

I thought the CyberKnife had a really really nice year as well.

John said for him, the reason he didn't vote for for modern games

is that for him, the three-year-old male is about the

Triple Crown Series. Does that way into your head as

well, because you just gave you a horse.

A didn't win, a classic race ended up winning the Traverse,

but I imagine the reason you would put up a center ahead of a

modern games is more races in the United States.

Number one but also he was part of that process as well.

Yeah, definitely. I I can't remember a time when a

three-year-old Turf specialist has 13 year, old horse of the

year. Yeah, I agree with that being

said, you, you might select modern games as male Turf course

of the year. I got them for both.

Yeah. Yeah.

Among all categories I think there were Only three horses in

North America. That 12 grade ones that's modern

games Santino and cassock read, but to your point before one of

them was the Woodbine mile outside of the the u.s.

So that's why voters might be a little reticent to put modern

games there in terms of epicenter.

I just I thought that Travers performance was absolutely

awesome here Ran 159 and change and that that was the fastest

time in the Travers in the last 25 years, besides error Gates

time and tactically. He's just ran a perfect race

there. He stalked, he sat right on the

pace and pounced down the stretch.

I think another Factor on why epicenter deserves it is.

Are you finished second in the first two, two legs of the

Triple Crown and then you really have to throw out his Breeders

Cup Classic to because of the guitar.

Yeah right. Yeah because you got hurt so so

you don't know if he was completely healthy in that case

he definitely could have contended for second with

Olympiad and the others. So yeah, I would go with

epicenter. First.

Any other categories where you felt like there was an obvious

winner or not. I thought the most obvious was

probably breeder with good dolphin Flightline.

Obviously horse of the year, older, dirt mail, where would

you have landed with older? Dirt female.

Do you think do you think malice that did enough to win that

category? Yeah, pretty handily.

I agree with you. Yeah, especially the way she she

finished the year, winning the personal and zooming in the

close race and then Our that, that was a really deep field in

the in the distaff where she won that race to, and yeah, very

good field. In an unbelievably good race.

Yes. Oh, unbelievable.

Yeah, it was a thrilling finish. I would say, clearly are had a

really strong year, he's in my top three shit, a great year.

Ya, and, ya know, looking forward.

It's encouraging to see how she does this year.

Could be once who between her and and nest in that category.

Yeah, if good night, Oliver comes back to sprintin.

I think she's gonna have something to say about it

because I think she's gonna pick off a bunch of races.

Again, she ended it she laid into my top three as well.

So and she was my females printer this year.

So yeah, no interesting sort of stuff.

I was telling John what are the fattest things for me was

thinking about American Turf racing that how bad it is.

It's just not great, right? It makes me sad.

The horse was that largely ran outside of the United States for

my top of the, you know, I went to bother games the rebels

romance for by talked to Emile Turf and then I decided to stay

with a horse that's been running mostly United States or think

exclusively. If I'm remembering more like

goddess on the females. Yeah, I thought she was.

I thought she was the best of that group and so kind of an

easier one for me there. But you know, made me kind of

sad. I have a little different in the

two year old category because while Wonder Wheel did nothing

wrong and I think she's going to easily win the Philly, I voted

Hoosier Philly the best because I think she's the best juvenile

in training right now, I've talked about it on this show, I

think he's better than Forte right now.

Even for example who I voted first in my two-year-old male

category, and so I think with Tom Amos says things like baby

will be standing in the Winner's Circle across the track,

referring to the Derby Winner Circle.

That's that is assigned to be. He is not predisposed to, to

hyperbole at all. So that that stood out to me as

something that made me think, okay?

Okay tiles. Be a pretty serious here.

So it's funny you brought her up because I was looking at Derby

Futures. Before we got on, and who's your

Filly is 75 21 at Caesars? Dude, that the the last pool

before she ran her last race, all Phillies was 3282 one and

then she won it. It dropped to like 51.

I mean, like, just just for her one performance there and it's,

it's worthwhile because it's at Churchill Downs.

It's two terms. It's all those things right?

It's what it's what you want to see on that early Trail for

two-year-olds and frankly, we see so much more that

two-year-old Phillies translate to a three-year-old year that we

do on the cold side. So I think that there are a

bunch of people who are like, maybe I'll throw 20 50, 100

dollars on something that I can get 50 to 1 in a Futures pool

rather than at 325 for all other horses.

Whatever that might look like. So what is all other horses at

right now? Now, although other Colts or

whatever, I'm not sure. I want to say anything.

I want to take 30 to 1 or so, but yeah.

Yeah, that's worth mentioning because the, the pool for the

Derby is limited to a certain number of horses and in Vegas,

there's like a thousand. So yeah, it's the difference.

You have to be the Thousand horses.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no value in taking

four-day at 9 to 1, right? Right now in January because

what what's the best that you're going to get them at on Derby

morning, right? Like where we were from 1922?

Yes, exactly, right? Yep, absolutely.

And frankly if you're playing a horse like 40 in the derby and

he's developed the way that he's looked as a two-year-old, you're

not playing them straight up, you're playing them in an Exacta

pool. You're playing them in a

trifecta pool. You're playing it as part of,

you know, the last leg of a pig for something like that.

So that 922 doesn't, it doesn't matter.

Frankly and so Yeah, I'm with you on that so but no it was it

was interesting and fun to do the the eclipse awards for the

first time. But I'm excited this weekend

because we do get the Jerome the east coast and then we get the

Sham out west. And in my mind this is always

kind of the start of the Derby prep season.

I know that we have points races before this, and I think, I

think the Oaks season starts earlier.

I think that you can you can glean more from the Phillies in

the to turn races in November, December, But for me that Derby

prep season, really starts this weekend in the drill.

Have you had a chance to look at that field?

I think that your own feel too is kind of weak.

I do. You know the last Derby winner

to come out of draw. Last funny side we were going

for Foose ihe Pegasus. How about well you know what I

like about this is wrong because they have to run a mile and an

eighth. Over two turns in the fall.

And then, they run the acorn over a mile over one turn.

I think the Jerome is perfect because it's a mile, but it's

only one turn. So you have to, you know, it's

technically a route but at least you have to go a mile, right?

We learned something. I think about Colts when they go

full mile over the dirt and so interesting.

The only thing that's really interesting is you get a horse

that was kind of hot early which is Andiamo offer ends in this

group right there with Kelly Green and that horse you know

comes out wins right away. Over a sloppy track at Belmont.

Comes back wins in the mud in the funny side of Saratoga.

Over seven furlongs or six and a half earlier, excuse me.

And and so if it's going to rain in New York tomorrow on Friday,

we might have good muddy conditions on Saturday.

If it doesn't clear up much at at Aqueduct.

I that's the only thing I would say on the handicapping side for

people is kind of look at that wet form on Diablo offer as they

love the slob. And so if it's still wet out

there that might be a horse to play circling, the drain of

course coming out of a to turn Maiden win in Maryland but

that's the kind of horse were Getting here, we're getting

Maryland. Breads were getting fair, you

know, Florida breads, that kind of thing where it's not the

usual, you know, sort of bigger shots, you know, Chad Brown

taking a shot here with who's become one of his favorite

riders. In many Franco with the one

neural network here. Second favorite.

The favorite in this race is Arctic arrogance, which is a

terrific going for a horse. And it really is and because if

anyone doesn't know it, true, that is.

Frosted make sense. Arctic mom is modest bathing So

they flipped it and made it arrogance, which I love.

And so huge speed figures. Last two times out wins runs in

the Remsen in the slop. It still runs a really good

race, but why behind up, you know who people think a ton of

in Italy cropped out, right? So by less than a like half a

length or so and so if he can recreate that kind of form, in

fact, if he can improve in the linearized barn before that

race, he's got a serious shot this weekend.

He's like an 825 kind of favorite on the morning line and

so should be part of the equation.

Asian there. But you know I like the race and

what it, what it represents mad as far as going a mile, you

know, going you know, going that one turn because I think it's

fair for horses at this point in their development, but this

field in particular your right is not incredibly enticing.

Yeah, I think like neural network is three to one or more.

So that's right. Yep, he's the wise guy pick and

then and yeah, diamo diferentes, about 6 to 1.

So yeah, there's some value there.

Especially like you said, if there's a ton of rain there,

that could be a good pic. Yeah, Arctic arrogance has won

over a muddy track, but that was to break his Maiden in September

at Saratoga wet. It Saratoga in September is

different than wet at aqueduct in January.

So it's a little bit different. So we'll see, I'll hold that

shakes out. Oh, Matt, is there anything else

you need to plug man, before we get you out of here?

No, I mean in the Sam it's a six-horse field and For the

sink. There are bathroom horses so

that's kind of ridiculous. I would just say that, I think I

think baffert's, I wouldn't call the Reclamation project, but

2023 could be be his year. You know, like you look at the

top 25 horses in the Kentucky Derby future, wagering pool and

Six of them are baffert's, and then you have tables probably

headed to the Saudi cop and you have defunded and concert

grammar to, so he's gonna stick his partner.

No. Yeah, he could be back with a

vengeance this year after everything that happened.

I think the Sham could be a look ahead to what the Preakness is

going to look like because I think backwards gonna have half

the people to break this. All right, man.

Well, last question for you then because you brought it up, if

you own a horse that's in the backward.

Barn. Do you consider doing something

that isn't the Tim Yak teen route and maybe call up a

pleasure. Call up a brown.

Call up and asthma's and call up the cops something like that.

Yeah, I mean I mean it's a good question it happened a couple of

years ago with like this good, right.

And then life is good went through 2 plus or permanently.

So if you use yakeen of the Assistant trainer or your backup

quarterback per se but fabric could oh, he's reclaim one of

those horses. So I think you should go to the

acting route again. Okay.

Yeah. I think a lot of those owners

will be loyal to baffert that way and go where he says that he

would like them to go. And that was pretty clearly to

me acting went last year and so I think we're going to see a

bunch of that again this year. So it'll be interesting.

Is he still not? It allowed at night, retract the

question, I'm not sure. I know he's not allowed to race

any horses in the Kentucky Derby this year and it's a two-year

ban. So this is the last year.

Yep. I'm not sure about the New York

tracks, there's been constant litigation, so that's all means.

Not sure what the update is. I would say, I think if the dirt

Was wrong that this weekend? My pick would be a raven night

Raven line. Yeah, just from his race at

Keeneland on Breeders. Cup Day impressive.

Yeah. He he shot out of the gate broke

really well. I think the kid 05 length lead

with eighth of a mile laughter so and just cruise home.

So I would take him over Forte and logins.

Great. Now we're I would take, I would

take the double digit odds on Hoosier, Philly, and run to the

bank to get as much money as I thought.

That's what I will be. So his name is Matt Roberts,

house key at Matt Roberts. House key on Twitter, find his

stuff at sports handle. U.s. bets Forbes.

Lots of good places as well. Matt, stay warm up there.

Is it going to get colder? You are you do for snow or

anything up there? Oh, you know skin, you never

know. It's it's been in the 50s.

This week in the Saratoga area, it's crazy.

You go, go four and a half hours away to Buffalo.

And there are people who wrote it down from their cars and it's

yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, their entire homes

were look like icicle. I don't know how people live

their men. I really don't get it.

By the way, you know what? Actually you bring up Buffalo.

and you know with the incident in the game on Monday Night

Football, You know, and we get the good news from the UC

medical staff today that there's been a lot of improvement in his

condition and and apparently he's writing things, he's

cognizant that way. Guess his neural function is

good which is the whole situation is a testament to how

well set up the Bangles are for a catastrophic situation.

I mean it absolutely saved his life how quickly they are of God

and how good do you see folks that they did and so cool.

Most everybody on that side. Now that we know that he's going

to be okay, I think that it's okay to ask the harder, it

assures me the easier questions about this, which is do they

play the game? What do we do with all this

money tied up in Daily sports or in fantasy sports or year-long

fantasy sports? You cover this stuff, what do

you think ends up happening here?

Well, all all phenomenal questions and look like is this

are articulated. First and foremost ever.

Everyone is just relieved that that the Mars condition has

improved. So, so rapidly unbeli.

It's unbelievable. I'm beyond, I'm over the moon

for the guy because I in first family, because I can't imagine

Just watching live where you watching live by chance.

Know, so we all received alerts on our phone and when we saw the

game was delayed and then we turned it on ESPN and saw a

video of it afterwards but my never unsee.

It. Either is, you know, the thing

live that stood out to me was the Bengals players.

Oh my God, someone get out here like just, you know, and how

quickly they recognize Aged get that freaking ambulance out

here. Is back from Canada.

I mean it just it was so it was so impressive how people in that

situation on the medical side were so calm.

So collected, so professional that.

He's in this body is today it's it is absolutely.

Dude, when we were growing up at that doesn't happen and it's a

much sadder story. And so, I'm glad that we've made

those moves and got better at those things.

Yeah, it's like the with the famous LT sack of Joe.

Theismann way. Nam advisement broke his leg and

it it sounded like, like, like like a shock on uncoiled.

Same thing. Like LT like motioned.

Me Bailey. He was so sad.

He was so sad to that over there.

Get over there and my sisters are respiratory therapist at

Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.

So we've been texting back and forth all week on Hamlin's

condition and she said that there, There's a stat of when

you go into cardiac arrest. And if your, your heart is not

revived, at least 3 minutes late.

If you don't go undergo CPR, at least three minutes later, the

survival rate is 25%. So that's that's just speaks to

like how impressive the response was and how, how critical it was

that. It was so immediate and and that

his car Pete was restored. So, so quickly because like we

said before, it looks really dire earlier this week,

terrifying terrifying. So but now now cool, the betting

implications of it. Actually there, there was a two

million dollar contest fantasy contest and all Underdog fantasy

earlier this week and They included the results of Monday

Night Football in the contest and honestly I don't know if

it's been resolved yet maybe it hasn't just because there's

there's so much on the lot on the line but on the sports

betting side you have to look at at all these type of bets right?

Let's see AFC North champion what if someone put 50 Grand on

The Bangles? To win the AFC North at the

start of the Season. There, there's a chance.

If the Ravens win that this week, right?

Don't win the division smaller things like, if you play Lamar

Jackson, right, right? Like like I think the Ravens

deserve to know if it's worth it to play Lamar.

Jackson that? Yeah, like that.

Joe pero season yards, it's something like 4400 the

over-under on on that. The 18th game that was cancelled

or the 17th game. That was cancelled that has an

affect things. Like touchdown totals for the

year that has an effect. On a lot of people put Wagers

on, you know, first first touchdown score, For the bills,

that that never happened because it was 73 when the game was

canceled. So, some of the books, they've

been good about about it and have issued refunds.

But yeah, it's it's something that created a huge headache

earlier this week. And yeah.

All I have to say about that is I'm glad that Hamlin's doing

better because that's right. Yeah, That should be first and

foremost of on everyone's mind, not betting.

No, it's just, I mean, with the NFL with, with all those things,

you know, it and, you know, a guy who hosts on it, the station

where I work at ESPN. Louisville, he pointed out, you

know, at some point we had to play baseball games after 9/11,

we had to go back to football after 9/11.

I remember going to the Michigan state.

Missouri, game the last Last week of the year because that

game got postponed from 9/11 to the end of the season, right?

That kind of stuff. Like we've done it before as the

culture and so I'm hoping they can figure out something that is

Equitable and also takes into account you know.

How the, but how the bills are feeling right?

I mean, because those players, having that kind of stuff.

And frankly, I talked about this on our show on ESPN little that,

that was a traumatic in-person experience for 70,000 people.

Any traumatic, on television thing for I don't know, 18

million people. Is that how many people were

watching that game number four on Monday night for that game?

I mean, we're all home, it's a holiday essentially, right?

And that's the only football on at that time, it's an awesome

game. You got two great quarterbacks

and everything else. And so it's one of those moments

I think that for a lot of people, that's where were you,

when kind of moment, you'll know where you were when you got the

alerts, I know the exact colors right there, watching TV right

there. When it happened and it'll be

one of those moments eventually that we'll talk about.

And I think the only good thing about it is that if he does

recover neurologically and possibly even physically, I

don't anticipate in playing football again or whatever.

And we had a guest on today who talked about the fact that he

doesn't qualify for the NFL pension yet.

I'd like to think that we're better than that as a culture

and we're going to make sure he's taken care of and his

family. Yeah.

Right. There's lots of there's lots of

different moving pieces here. And it's also, by the way, I

don't think it's insensitive to talk about because we're talking

about, I mean, how, how much money's been on the NFL every

year? I mean it's got to be an insane

number. So it's a, it's in the billions,

many billions, that's right. And so we're talking about,

we're talking about the most popular game of the, the

penultimate week as last week of the season and just how much how

much money is in this man. And it's, I think, By the way

they do play this game. And I think they push the

playoffs back a week. And this is the only game that

week. Now, I think you got to go play

it on a neutral site. I think you go play in Detroit

or something. Go put it in a dome or put it in

Minnesota or whatever, where you just you.

I don't think the bill should have to go back to that field

right now. I don't think that's fair and

it's unfair. It stinks for the people who

paid to go to the game of course.

But at the same time like we have to be realistic about what

the outcome is here. And what you know, all of these

different moving pieces are but I think it's the NFL and I think

they're going to play the game, I think it's going to happen.

So you know what's up? What was kind of eerie is about

20 years ago? Or so there, there was an Umpire

who who collapsed in Cincinnati. Yep.

John would share. Airy.

And it was one of the worst scenes I've seen on TV in a

sports game. He had a massive heart attack,

his leg started wobbling and he collapse, and I read this on the

internet for him last night. There's a good chance that there

were dozens of fans who were at both games, right?

So you have them experience a dent and And the handling is

yeah and could call. And then you also had the

Antonio Brown hit across them the middle, and the bangle came

and the to a concussion as well. So it's just, it's one of those

weird coincidences that all those incidents happened in

Cincinnati. It's not saying anything about

the city. It's just that At all them

happen there, you know, you know, I was thinking when they

get a weird way to Canyon Martin's injury happened in

Cincinnati to and that's right. I mean, no, I have a lot of

these examples. Yeah.

Those are gruesome injury with argued that Kenyon Martin.

Dude. I look back on that and I think

about that not a lot. But enough that, that that guy

in college, I can't name five players that I've watched play

college basketball better. Kenny Martin, I use that good in

college. I mean, and that and that

Huggins, you see, team was loaded.

I've already uploaded what they were going to be one.

See, no question the whole thing and so yeah.

Cincinnati Mick. You're totally right.

That's I hadn't thought about it that way.

Yeah, yeah. But I was thinking well, and

sorry. Doesn't this is kind of Macabre,

but you're good. All those become.

Yeah. Let's let's say something like

this happened in horse. Grayson.

Right. Because on on major things,

you've seen you've seen horses. Go down, you've seen.

Oh, I read. I read very recently.

I mean if he thought got a helmet the exact spots of the

horse to, I mean, like not all this.

I mean, I even I read Ortiz, man, I mean, this is a, this is

not, it was 18 months ago, I mean, it's not that far in the

past. Yeah.

Um in the in the 1990 Breeders Cup goal for Monde, Went down

and there was this. Tragic and then Mongolian going

groom. Yeah, thank you.

Yep. Yeah.

So I'm realistic enough to to to look at the recent history of

horse racing and kind of come to the conclusion that that if a

horse goes down in a, you know, in a major race, the card will

continue. But let's say it happens to a

jockey right there. There was that?

Arlington million where? Yep.

Gary Stevens got thrown from the horse and got kicked in the

head. Same thing with gopher wand when

Randy Romero, fall off there. But let's say something similar

to Hamlin. Let's say, if it happened to to

a jockey what would the racing officials at?

At the track to? What would they canceled the car

with the Breeders Cup cancel? The the rest of the Cardiff?

So right now I went down in the Belmont, right?

He went in down in the fifth race at Belmont and I think they

just kept. They finished the card.

There's the card. I'm with you now.

It wasn't as catastrophic as what we saw on Monday.

I want to be clear, or was it gosh?

I mean live. It was bad, man.

The I read still was bad live. It was bad.

Yeah, that was a Thursday. I don't know.

I remember that. And equal pay was the philly,

that's right? Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know, man. That's a great.

It's a unfortunately Macau. But very good question.

I yeah. If somebody gets hurt the Derby.

Do they run the last two races is essentially what you're

asking. Right?

Exactly yeah. I think they're on the last

three races. I think that's horse racing, by

the way, the Bangles bills prior to the game.

That estimate is somewhere around 300 million.

Bet on that game one game. Yeah.

Well, you know, that's right. No, and not, again, that doesn't

include the season-long stuff that Matt brought up and it

doesn't include, you know, prop fast although fantasy stuff.

Yeah, right. Yeah, right.

Yeah. That's a, that's a tough

question. It's a good question.

It's a tough question. You're not, you know, from being

in in Michigan and 1971. What was the receiver's name?

Chuck Hughes I want to say, I think that's true.

Yeah. He he was hit by broadcast

across the middle and he wound up passing away.

Unfortunately, at the hospital after night in October.

Yeah, yeah. And to this day that that's the

that's the only on field. Death in NFL history and

importantly ironically he's a Western PA guy like oh yeah well

I mean to be fair a ton of great football players are kind of

Western PA so it's not too shocking but yeah no it's the

you're right. It did you see his family's

response actually this week? No I didn't see it.

Yeah I know just how I mean there.

Apparently you can imagine even 51 years later, they're still

out. There's a scar with that, right?

And but they have been Essentially just keyed in

totally gluten on the situation, and I think that they, I bet

today's news, I haven't heard anything from them today, but I

have to imagine today's news was just one of the one of the great

days they've had to the last 51 years.

I'm not kidding. I mean, because it is I would

like to think that I am. I am optimistic about medicine

and those things, but the Watching.

What happened has flooded me so much with with, with negativity.

That it is. It's such welcome news.

Today. I, it broke while I was on air

this morning and I was so happy to be able to share that news

with whoever was listening, right?

I mean, that that the bills have tweeted 24 hours, incredible

response. He's, you know, he's

neurologically intact and I thought, holy crap, it literally

was just his chest, he didn't have a stroke or anything like

that. Thank God.

I mean, like literally just the very best news.

I think we got that like 1033 this morning or something.

Yeah so accused you're right man.

Yeah unbelievable and all that was late in the game so they so

they didn't postpone or cancel it.

And of course, 51 years ago it was a different time and same

type of thing. That was a freak accident.

I read that buck is called over to the sideline right away.

He He winces extremely scared of what happened.

So in his was his was like a, it was like a, like, a spleen or

something, right? Like something ruptured, right?

I'm not well sir. I thought he was hit in the

chest but he he wasn't even met to catch the ball on the play.

It was like he was sort of a Decoy for for where the The ball

was going and okay, what is? This is interesting actually, so

he hit had an undiagnosed in advanced arteriosclerosis.

Oh one of his coronavirus coronary arteries with 75%

blocked. So once the injury happened, he

couldn't get enough blood there to take care of it.

Anyway, the family had a history of heart disease, so even though

he was a healthy guy, it didn't matter.

He had the genetics that was set up that if this had happened, it

wasn't going to work out for him.

And so, yeah, obviously Tamar's got Got pretty incredible jeans.

He's he's doing okay, but yeah, it's, um, Yeah, not that.

Their response has been very interesting to follow because

they they've been thrilled that Tamar got the right care and all

those things. And like I said, you know,

hopefully we'll get even better at this, you know.

You know, you follow the World Cup.

You did a bunch of work on that. One of the things you always see

soccer players working out with are those those chest monitors

those heart monitors. They almost look like sports

bras, frankly when the players are running around, they do and

But there's such an emphasis on watching those vitals and doing

those things. And I think it's such a, such a

positive development of what we've been doing with athletes.

And so hopefully it continues and you know, someone, you know,

we had we had a segment yesterday on the show and

someone asked, you know, do do you think there are going to be

changes in? Are they going to get better at

this stuff? And all I could think was how

could they get better at what the response was?

And that's what I should like. That's how to be.

That's how good the response was.

That it was so immediate and you brought it up the statistics

with your sister, right? The three-minute response, the

percentages on that. I think that's what stands out

here is. How good the response was what

we have to decide. Is the society, is that people

should be able to do this or not.

Right. That's the bigger question here

is, that should you be able to play football?

You have to be. This is this is more of a 1 in

100,000 kind of thing than it is.

Or one-in-a-million frankly with how many hits these guys take.

I mean in every play, there's a collision.

Ian of everyone on the field. Except for three, guys, that's

what football is and and what. And that's, that's the question

to ask to me. And and, and I think as long as

people understand the, the risk that they're signing up for a

football is football. Where he goes?

Isaac, I was going to say are you going to stop snowboarding

then skydiving? Or like people working?

Like there's an argument to be said that like in a way, put

ball football players are taking a advantage of it because of the

past of how football was developed and they're pushed to

make money and you know, there's a lot of larger political and

other conversations but if you just take it down to sport,

There's so many sports that are not safe.

But someone from the UK said something that struck me and

that's why I jumped in is they said What's made football,

worse? Is that in making it more safe,

we armored up these people, but in armoring up these people we

made it less safe. Mmm.

You know, a sport like rugby can never get more dangerous because

there's no pads. You have to have the rules that

stop it. And the more we like this year,

the there was a brand new thing called The Guardian cap and

there were a couple Teams that had them like phone Captain

Literally ties. I've seen those helmet training

camp, right? Okay.

So now we've got that. Then what do we put balloons on

top of it? Do you like, do you have like a

way? I will say some of those videos

where the guys are in those balls that completely surround

them are pretty serious. They're pretty hilarious.

Yeah. But I mean hypothetically,

right? Like we have the technology that

instantaneous with air bags and stuff like that, you could pop

an airbag when a QB takes a hard hit, is that the next

technology? At the football.

Like you're you're still do your shoulder pads or whatever.

Yeah. Right.

Yep. And it just stops and you have

to on your hips or whatever. Whatever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's going to, it's going to

look different. I mean, it is, and I will say,

if people think things can't go away, they go away.

They do. It's why when I moved here, and

people told me the Derby could never go away.

And Churchill Downs is running mate.

Special waits for like 15 grand. I mean, like not only can go

away like Careful what you wish for I mean it's you know it's a

fascinating conversation. I appreciate you being so candid

the candidate and because it was it was perfect timing right?

Like correct I could not have been a more routine tackle.

I'm right? Yes was like yes it was like the

the exact like like Ms and in the in like the old Circle cycle

of how his is heartbeat. And when he was hit that that

that cause it was almost like the perfect storm and I I read

something like there, there's around 30 cases of it, that type

of injury Nationwide the year but like think of all the sports

we mentioned on the pro college and and Youth Level those are

like thousands of Matches and so only have 30 of those results.

Yeah, this shows how rare of Anna Kurds.

It was so, Harry Carson said it best on CNN.

He said, listen, I was a tyrant with my family.

I told my daughter, your sons will never play football.

Never, I am going to be the one to tell you that and that is

what I did with my kids. I said, you will never play

football. And that is a family by Family

Choice. You cannot make that decision

for grown men who are mentally Julian's of dollars.

Sure and betting organizations that are making billions,

There's no world where that ends, right?

Every time someone dies skydiving dies snowboarding

dies. Like it disport doesn't end, you

made that decision. You made that choice and it was

CTE. Now, who was it was luck?

That retired couple of years. What like eight years ago?

He was just like dude, I can't take any more hits.

I'm done. You're looking at a guy who's

had more than 10 concussions playing hockey and I've had a

cracked and I play a crappy levels.

It just is what it is. No totally.

And so once you get to an NFL kind of level you are taking it

into your own hands. I totally agree.

Yeah. So all right in September this

this year right to uh yeah that for concussions in the space of

like a week. Yeah the first one he had

against the bills. It was scary though the back of

his head smashed against the ground and all of a sudden he

was back in the game. Right after halftime.

Yeah, by the way, by the way, that is the ultimate

juxtaposition of of medical care how they treated to a not good.

What they did with them are way better and and even so if we got

better this year just from those two incidents happening in the

same season, we've gotten better as frankly as a sports culture.

And I hope that's the case. Matt, I'm going to let you go

buddy. Where can people find yourself?

Ah no Sports handle.com and at Matt Rivals house key on Twitter

that's M. Attr.

YB alt is in all ows Ki you go. He's he's thanks guys.

Yeah. Yeah.

Really has affected my life in a really significant way and if

anyone wants to talk to me about it at Louis Rob O Allah you is

Raba UT horse happy. Hour is our Twitter feed for the

show. I mean I'm happy to talk about

it but it really affected my life.

I had to undergo some treatments very recently to to kind of

reverse the effects of that. I'm not at the CTE level.

But I'm, you know, they talk about A1C for leukemia are for a

for diabetes. I kind of have the A1C of

concussions. It.

So I have to have to be kind of reasonable about about my brain

and what what I do and so I have I have a lot of sympathy for a

guy like two of her example. The other thing though is with

Tamar is that I think he's gonna be okay.

And the cool. And here's the cool thing for

him. And I'm going to get sappy for a

second, he played a pit for college and then he played for

the bills and both of those places are fiercely loyal

blue-collar places. That guy he's gonna be okay.

As far as jobs and different things my point about the

pension was he showed up and did the job?

It was obviously going to be good enough to do it four more

years, it isn't his fault that this one-in-a-million accident

happens. So let's figure that out.

Let's figure out the pension for him as well.

Go ahead with your takeaway to. Yeah.

I was gonna say, there's also the option of the Bills play out

his contract to get them to pension, right?

And he doesn't retire, but he doesn't play another game.

Right? Right, right.

He's not, he's not a, they need it.

They need to be billion dollar. Playwright like they don't they

can afford to keep him on track there on the roster spot is

tough. But yeah, I'm I hear you on

that. I just hope the nflpa or

whatever can figure that out for him because absolutely, you

know, at some point like you If you're in a union, B Union

supposed to take care of you, it's a hopefully someone will

step up in that spot it and do it.

We are job with with acho. You know, he could be on that

show. Put them on the broadcast.

Whatever. I'd be like, yeah, I could give

him something. I mean, frankly.

Yeah, NFL Network, honestly, if I'm in Buffalo and I'm doing

radio, like, I do in Louisville, I'm figuring out a way to have

the guy on every week and we throw them everybody, but we get

a sponsor that Just funds him, you know what I mean?

Like that kind of stuff. So I think there's there's lots

of different opportunities for him or if it's in Pittsburgh,

whatever, you know, and I'm optimistic that that will

happen. And so I have to say to one of

the more very football things that happen with this is that he

wakes up in the first thing. He writes down his, hey, yo, did

we win the game? And I get it, I totally get it.

So so I'll share a personal story.

So my brother had leukemia when I was a teenager and I was the

bone marrow donor and the the anesthesia did not go.

Well for me, I'll put it that way.

So I wake up in a haze. My grandfather sitting next to

me in the hospital and I wake up an hour ago, but you know, we're

going to sleep here overnight. I said that today I had that

flash back to being 17 and wondering how am I, you know, 23

year-old brother's doing was essentially at that day.

It's not. And when you play, when you play

team sports, it's about other people, right?

And you that, that to me, by the way, tells me, he understood the

risks. Oh yeah, because he's lying on a

hospital bed. His first response is hey, how

did my team do? That's a?

And so if there is a, if there is a takeaway for the mentality

of these guys and how they approach the world and how they

approach, man, I mean just community and culture and

whatever else. That's the giveaway right there

and I think that you can either celebrate it or you can be

against it. I'm not I'm not going to tell

people how to think about it but for him, that's what it is.

That's that's his that. Who he's chosen, his family, you

know, and Zack, you know this very well.

So you and I are very close, you know, I would think that you and

I probably talked more than you, you have three brothers.

You probably talked to me more than you talk to your brother's,

right? And I is just right.

You just but as you get to be an adult, that's what you do.

You choose, who your family is right?

And and so Tamar's done that with with the bills.

And, you know, the bills Mafia thing is real.

All right, we find out. There's a fundraiser thing for

for like, $2500 open over 7 million today, You know, where,

where where people are really turning out for that.

And so, it's been Children's Charities are twenty thousand

dollars in the first five minutes after he left a few.

Yeah, it's so people went to look for that, right?

They didn't broadcast. That ESPN didn't mention that

when it went on Monday Night, Football, people went and found

that. So my hope is that even in dark

moments, you see the humanity of people.

I, the thing that I responded to the most Zach was was his

teammates responses Yep, and if you can't see Humanity in how

people respond to tragedy that happens in front of them, that I

have nothing for you and that's that's where we'll close that

topic. I appreciate that talking about

it because he does cover. He's a good followed by the way

on Twitter. I mean it's a he covers football

head coach horse racing. He did a great job covering the

World Cup. Matt is cover the Winter

Olympics in Sochi and he's been he's been all over the place,

doing all kinds of things and he's one of my favorite people

have on the show has been a great friend of the show for a

long. I'm Matt wants sent me a bottle

of barbecue sauce from Kansas City because he went on a road

trip and was good. He's got good taste of barbecue

sauce, was it will say that but I did want to do a little bit of

handicapping before we get out of here.

This is the horse racing. Happy are my name's Lou your bow

Zach producer. Sack is hanging out with me.

I am not going to talk about the turquoise preview Stakes today.

I wanted to put the field is so short, and I have a feeling out

of the six horses, it's very rare by the way, this is a A

Turfway, anomaly six horses in this race.

I think two of them are going to run into made tomorrow on

Friday. So we're gonna force field Turf

way. So I'm not going to talk about

that. I think the late, the lake card

at Aqueduct is really interesting where we have on

this one or three, you know. I'll walk through the late pick

three. The Jerome is an interesting

race, it's now become a listed Stakes went away from a grade 3

to listed stakes and part of that I think is because of

what's come out of that race, we mentioned it 2000 was the last

time that it Derby winner came out of this race with food

statue, Pegasus. I have mixed feelings about

that. It's obvious that, you know, you

have more Derby contenders would have you out of some of the

other preparation has. But as far as restricted

three-year-old races, I've always thought that the Jerome's

is a really, really good race. It's the second oldest a trace

in the United States. A really, really I mean and it

and I also don't what I don't want to happen is a track like

Aqueduct which picks up the slack for guyra during the

winter? You get to valued in any kind of

way because it happens to run in January and they can't run on

the turf Course in New York. It's not their fault.

It's freaking New York's, Ozone Park and queens.

What are we doing? Like don't don't devalue what's

going on and Pre-K training in the morning?

It's know everybody. Yeah?

Right it sucks. The weather sucks at this okay?

Aqueducts picking up the slack for naira.

They don't get that if you flip Saratoga right now it gave

Aqueduct saratoga's races. You would think of aqueduct in a

very different way and it's not aquaducts fault, 150,000 dollars

on the line here. Obviously, for three-year-olds,

that one turn one mile over the dirt.

There I do think the to make Mega favorites are the play

here. So if we're talking about the

late pick three, cool thing at my rho, 1 minute, 1 dollar

minimum on the Pick 3. So, the pools do tend to be

better. This is the third leg of the of

the Grand Slam. So if you want to play that

we've talked about on this show where you pick the horses that

finish in the top three, In the first three legs.

And then you have to have the winner.

The last race that will be race 9.

The Queen's call Queens County, which is also listed Stakes to

be. After this one, we'll talk about

it, but I would go with the, the 6 and the one, the 6 is Arctic

arrogance, and let me make sure that I have.

All of my pop, my boarding lines here.

This was a job of mine on the show.

Something that I always do when I handicap is I get the the past

performances as soon as I can so that they don't have the morning

lines on them. So if you're if you're someone

out there that is like, you know, you play On Saturdays.

Go ahead. As soon as you can grab your

form as early as you can forget. About the morning lights, don't

take someone else's opinion into account for what you think and

then check the morning lines. Later, what I found this weekend

is I agree with the Morning. Light makers name is David are

gonna you just really really good job with Myra.

Our kicker gets land in the top spot with me is the six horse,

825, linearized. Jose Luis Cano, this horse is

dropping, Out of the room stood. A grade to going a mile and an

eighth. So he was able to show that

distance R. And by the way, at Aqueduct

Adam, I'll in the Sleepy Hollow wins the Sleepy Hollow by open

like four and a half lengths last time out before that

against quick to accuse and StarQuest.

And so to me, that's the horse to beat here.

Has won over wet. Go as well.

Like we mentioned at Saratoga in muddy.

Muddy conditions, their surface at Saratoga surface.

At Aqueduct are going to be different.

I compare Enough to Belmont to be very similar, more Sandy on

Long Island. But I do think that what

experience does matter because I do think, even if, even if they

list that course as fast on Saturday, I think there's going

to be some moisture in it. That's just my sense of looking

at the weather weather, man. Louis of course here with you on

the horse racing. Happy hour my sense is it's

gonna be there's gonna be more sure in that track.

So I like that, about neural network comes in here.

Broke has made over his only run.

Once broke is made in seven furlongs.

It'll Maiden special weight, the state in the state bread at 7:00

for lunch. I don't think it's an accident.

That Chad Brown has him in here with Manny Franco, the two of

them hook up. The last 215 runs at 25%.

I think that's very telling. And so that horse is 141 once in

a while you just have a horse that is just, he's just great

won by five lengths. Open length with Joel Rosario,

last time out, the training numbers make sense.

Here has been training at the Belmont training track and I

think the numbers all Make sense 48 over 4 10 2 over 5.

I think all those numbers match up last time, outran, one 12

over 6. So I think those numbers all

match up to be competitive in the drum.

So I'll go 610. Go short here in the eighth,

you're going to sense a trend here.

My people that I am not going along in any of these races in

the ninth race. I landed on the 7 horse, let me

pull up the echo base because I do not have the actual post

numbers in front of me because I really do try to cap that way,

bubonic is Excuse me, I apologize.

Nighthorse is law professor for Rob actress and many Franco.

So obviously, I'm going with the Manny Franco double here.

Law professor is dropping out of the Breeders Cup.

It's kind of all you need to know as far as I'm concerned and

frankly in that mild the British captured mile this year with

Cody's wish with CyberKnife, with slow down and III.

Really, really good horses, and horse finished, fifth with Jose

Ortiz. Before that ran over, sloppy, go

at a mile and an eighth in the Woodward grade one at Aqueduct

as well. So the horse has experienced at

Aqueduct has a 95 speed figure at Aqueduct.

This is the kind of horse that drops into listed company.

Goes ahead at the mile and an eighth distance if you don't

know. At Aqueduct, that's a start line

to start line finish at Belmont. It's a mile-and-a-half start

line to start line and Aqueduct. It's a mile and an eighth.

So they like to look at the tracks big on Long Island.

Zach, that's what they left. And so I do think law professor

is the play here. Coming off of a little bit of a

layoff with Rob actress. They hit a 24%, he's 24 percent

on dirt and hits, the 22% in routes at Aqueduct.

He and Manny Franco hit together at 30%, so that horse will

obviously land on top for me. And then I land The two horse

here, which is going to be unbridled bomber.

Dylan Davis, James Ryerson and this is a recent Forum pick,

then the horse last time out and two times up, one at Aqueduct,

90 For Speed. Figure 96, speed figure both by

more than four lengths in allowance company at non to

lifers at the hundred thousand dollar level and then drops into

the optional claim a level winds by 4 lengths, the speed times.

Make the final times. Excuse me, make sense to me

here, 151 over a mile and an eighth.

That makes a lot of sense to me, for example, the mile and an

eighth in the Woodward was one at 149.

We're talking about a horse that ran that in 151 over sloppy go.

So I think that, you know, I think these are the kinds of

numbers or 151. If he's improving, which he

seems to be or at least he's in that class will use those two

horses and we'll move on. I apologize for the chalk.

There'd be white like, you know, residue flying in my face right

now. If people had their way on

Twitter, but it is what it is. So while you look at all the

horses and it is it ends up being that classical class.

As we say on the show, everybody finish your drink as we get to

the end of the show here. In the last year's I did land on

funny how which is New York bread in the last race in the,

the allowance here. We're going seven, furlongs,

one, turnover. The dirt Mi their eighty two

thousand dollar purse and this is for Phillies and mares for,

and up a reminder, by the way, we just ended the three and up

season as soon as we get to January, go back to Florida

because some of these horses, including funny how we're just

three Six days ago. And so now, they're four years

old, that's just how it works. The horse racing, she has won

her last three races including all of them at Aqueduct 343

lifetime, 85 speed trigger last time on 69 7385 her last three

speed figures. Guess what?

All of them at Aqueduct, six, Furlong six and a furlong six.

Furlongs her biggest margin of victory was over six and a half

or loss. We're going seven here.

My sense is actually sevens going to be fine.

She's gonna be good to go Trevor McCarthy those first two races.

Then Joel. Rosario, we get We get Davis

here with rental with Raymond handle, the two of them, very

limited sample size, guess what? Last time they get, they got

together, they wanted Aqueduct and so I'm guessing that funny.

How frankly is my pick of the weekend, even though all these

other horses are coming into these races looking really great

funny, how will be my life, my most likely winner in the last

race use. Wonder last three all an

aqueduct. I do think that the for yo, cuz

who's coming in off of a layoff in an extended lay off?

By the way, you might look at that and think - - man, all

those were enlisted company. She's three, four, five

Lifetime, and no reason to leave her out, Bill mot, excellent

record of bringing horses in off the layoffs at 21% over a six

month. Layoff she gets Lasix for the

first time which is a 26% angle with him.

He and Jose Luis Cano, hit at Aqueduct 26%.

So one in four in the last race, I'm looking at two horses in

each race that that dollar basis in a dollar ticket.

So 16, 27 14, Or in those three races you can play for a buck

for eight bucks. My suggestion, play it for

whatever is comfortable for your range.

Essentially, if you play for five dollars to forty Dollar

Bet. So if you if you if you play

your your sequence Wagers for that kind of amount, that's not

a ridiculous thing to do here. Because frankly, if it does talk

out, you're gonna have to spend a little bit more money to, to

make some money, frankly. But those are my picks.

Those six horses in the late sequence at aqueduct.

I have such a soft spot sack for those, for these for these

tracks, the Aqua Dots, the the turf ways.

The, I guess those are the two best examples because, you know,

Gulf Stream moves to the championship meet in the winter.

Yep. And it's not their fault because

they are in South Florida, God bless them and Yeah, so I just,

by the way, I need to announce on this show.

We will not be at the Risen star.

I am going to Puerto Rico that week because I tried to work

things out and it did not work out for the Risen star.

So instead I'm going to be celebrating something personal

with my wife and my family that week in Puerto Rico.

So we are going to work out at different dates with with the

folks at Fairgrounds and so we will get your we will get your

RV to New Orleans but it will not be for the Risen star, but

that will be, that's Valentine's weekend dish I think after,

right? Yep.

And so, um, So we'll figure out something there.

By the way, if you need a longer shot and that last race, hot

fudge. Isn't that race?

Too bad were not. Here is a 2-1 half my crew here.

That'd be the everything horses coming off a very short, lay off

here, frankly, for Linda rice but ran really well in the sweet

Mariner and is coming back in. But that was the 64, a long

race. We're going to look a little bit

longer. I have fudge at that kind of

number is a good race. I also, by the way, in the

Queens County, the 8l quest is a horse.

For course, at Aqueduct 12:50, the eight horse in the Queens

County the ninth race at Aqueduct.

If you wanted love a shot though.

My long shot play of the week. That's are canceling.

Robert Reed. Junior on that one.

So we'll figure that out, but folks.

Thanks for hanging out with us. I know we got a little heavy

with the talk. The NFL this week, but I think

that look, it's the story, it is in and it transcends.

It's not a football story. So it's human story and the news

today to get to say that to people on the air sac was was

cool. It was because so Often we get

no because I crispier got fired today because he chose a woman

written a bit, a woman or whatever like bleep off, what a

terrible and like. And that's usually the story I

have to talk about but it's technically like slapped his

wife at New Year's Eve party right there and instead I got to

talk about doctors doing amazing work in emergency medical folks

doing amazing work team doctors doing amazing work and in a

dangerous place in front of by the way, imagine it's one thing

to be be a doctor in an emergency room and there's 20

people in the room. It's another one to be one of

those folks on the field and there's 70,000 people there.

That's a legitimate thing. And, and I think that cannot be

overstressed. I I'm so I'm so moved and so

impressed by that. I had a, you know, I had an

incident playing hockey where I had to be picked up by an

ambulance, in it took so long that I remember, the only thing

I remember about it was being cold because I was lying on the

ice that long and It wasn't that anyone did anything wrong

because they couldn't move me. They didn't know.

I might my skate missed and, and I fell into the boards in the

most awkward way. It wasn't that someone did

something to me, but, but the Jersey I was wearing was hanging

behind. They had they finish the game

and the next day, I attended the game because my, my teammates

had won the game. That I got injured in a, my

jersey was hanging behind the boards.

It's cut. They cut up the front of my

jersey to take it off. Might I had I had shoulder pads

in hockey. That had duct tape on the front

because my parents were too cheap to buy me new.

I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I didn't want new ones.

I wanted those right. Yep.

That's what athletes think. That's what they go through.

And and so for him, I'm I get I get the did we win the game

thing again? It it makes sense to me.

It makes freaking sense to me and and so I hope look, we

tragedy often gives us great. It gives us great opportunity to

come together and be better. And it often gives us great

opportunity to be worse. 911 made us were exactly.

Yep. For example, politically made us

worse, it divided us in a way that shouldn't have happened.

It didn't need to happen. It should have been such an

obvious thing. The experiment of America is

better than whatever that crap is be better.

All of us. Let's be better and and instead

we did something different. Hopefully with the Mark we can

be better. We can move on and and we can

make it just you can make, we can make a frankly, is that You

and I know this, you can make it better for our kids, right.

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Go and play that music will get out of here.

Oh no, no, no, okay. Now we need to have a

conversation, you're a bad person.

So the So I so here's do you know the story of the clink?

Actually, I don't think you do know.

Okay, so first, first episode ever, September, 2019, Mike and

I are sitting in his office on the ground in front of the

laptop. We don't even have Mike you

don't have anything, right? We're sitting in front of a

laptop. We're trying to figure this out

and it goes, welcome to horse racing happier and I decide on a

very spur-of-the-moment I'm just gonna I'm just gonna I'm just

gonna do it and you go slow. Whoa.

I was like yeah it 11 people. Listen to that episode.

And I never quit doing it. It was one of those

spur-of-the-moment things that I'll never quit doing on this

show tonight. By the way, I using a Kentucky

Derby 148 from last year and a cigar cutter.

Yes. My favorite Kentucky Derby

class. Oh, I've for those, my cabinets

are made, is The Unofficial Derby cup, which is all the last

place winners of the Derby. But let's get out of here.

Zach play the actual music teacher, trying to have a

civilization. This has been Arthur's again.

Closing time.