Kentucky Oaks Day Hour 2

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Happy hour live from Churchill Downs for Kentucky Oaks 149.

Now here's Mike Lewis and Dan, all right James, I got something

for you tomorrow. I just want to make sure you

understand like this little whistle plays, the country

music, but this is now our show. So what I want.

Hip-hop from now on. Yeah.

All right. Well I'll hip-hop tomorrow.

You know, I got you man. That's all right.

I thought Avery mix all this music and these cigars and all

this this Youth, and I don't know why that woman's dress is,

so actually he would complain about the dresses.

Listen, we got it. The text line is open.

So if you have a great Derby question or anything, you want

to know about him on cabin like put it in the text line and

we'll answer it a lot of layer. Lou, we got anything there to

get to it all or four, three, seven, nine six, eighty five,

zero, two four, three seven. Nine 680.

Is street ball still in The Syndicate?

Is he going to do? Ichigo will be here.

He told us tomorrow today. Yeah we'll see that.

That is amongst the least reliable things that's ever been

said? Yes.

I'm James froebel and I'm going to show up yes it's just not,

not a thing. Lois are you okay after

yesterday? Yes I'm fine.

Thank you very much. Coming down numerous times of

the text line made by cares about Louis Mage wins the Derby

and sets the track record. So we're going over Secretariat

with made coming down, it's like, fine, I'll give you 100 to

1 on that one, texter lamenting wedding Rich strike.

In a trifecta box. II did not run?

Well, it was not shocking. It was not good.

Chuck came. I don't I didn't have smile

happy in the top four. You're really on a well, Danny

killed it on that one. He was all over.

All right, so let's good timing for dinner.

You mentioned the lot or in which I want to get to in this

race because this is one of our favorites dying race 9.

Favorite one of our favorite races of the year, you just, you

know, it's always a monster and this year is no exception

whatsoever. This is a An assistant on the

dirt, it is for Phillies and mayor's who are four years old

and up. And again, we love the Phillies

when it comes to the stars of the sport.

Dan. Yes, the Oaks winner.

Secret oath is in here? Yes, you like, are you going

against her? I I like her but she she doesn't

have to win this race. I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna

tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to play.

T first and second and some tries with some of these other

fillings. I you know that she was an

outstanding three-year-old she got really, really hot at the

end of last year and then in the Breeders Cup, ran against older

Phillies. I mean she was no no no contest

with Mal of fat, and Claire are and that bunch, she came back.

A first start was in the Madison going, seven furlongs, I think

that was a little little Dying all over.

Got big by good night, out of the champion, sprinting, Philly

and mayor. So at four to one, I think

that's longer than that. I think that's I do too.

I do too because the way their breath there, they are betting

anything that Brad Cox runs out here off the board and so a more

Ray, who's five to one on the morning line?

I don't think you get that. Note secret oath, I don't know

that you get three, two, one. I'ma play against the One horse,

who's a Play, Hard Play Hard, who is 92, but you got Chad

Brown with a two-horse. I'm going to play.

I'm gonna play Society first and second with with three or four

of these other fillies, I have Society, third, I went for, I

say that. I have her fourth 4 10, 2, and 7

in this race. For me, I do have a secret oath

on top. I think that she's the class of

this field been running in those big Stakes company.

Only bad ratios have recently, actually, where the Breeders Cup

this happened to Cotillion and then they did what Dan talked

about. They let her be a horse for a

winner and they gave her some time off.

Came back in March, my birthday at Oaklawn Park wins.

These are real first I asking and then comes back losses by a

neck. It one of the great finishes of

this year in the apple blossom their short field or Claire

Lester are was awesome today. Clear, the area here.

It's how we don't have to worry about that part.

Secret oath here and then I do think I'm all re the Chen

outside there is really really ready for this race.

However, in the second spot, ran really well on the beholder Mile

in San Anita, right? At Oaklawn before that 11 at the

fairgrounds before that. And Mike knows this from doing

the show since September 19 with me, if a horse can travel in win

at different tracks, I love that.

I love it a lot. Lots of horses travel in the

come to Churchill Downs and win. I think she can absolutely do

that. I agree with the and about

Society, I think she's absolutely a threat here.

She reminds me a bit of Wonder Wheel in the Oaks later.

We've seen great things from her before, but will we see it again

today? Steve as Muslims going to have

her cock ready to go. And I think Jose Ortiz is the

guy to do that as well. And then, if we're going inside,

I'll use the to as well, search results.

Yeah, I think a lot of that is more personal bias about having

covered heard on the Oaks Trail. So intimately, frankly and

really, really liking her ran second mouth that in that race.

But since then of course has won the Molly Pitcher at at Monmouth

went back, ran right behind now that in the personal and

Saratoga runs into Breeders Cup, distaff up the track a little

bit, but that was a three. Or phrase what everyone else is

gonna be. Yeah.

Do you want a corn winter to? For sure.

The key for society in here you know she's going to the lead.

That's the only way she run and just like they can write it just

like the last race we saw where smile happy was was right at the

throat latch of Cox's horsey entire way around and beating

and so if somebody pressures Society, she won't hit the

board. If she gets out there and

starts. Swinging, she's got a chance to

hold on, we did get a nice text from someone saying, they hit

the try in the fifth race because Danny was on the

one-dollar Trifecta P. 42 21. Nice.

So, there you go. That's what I'm talking about.

And the one horse were not actually talking about the horse

that won this race last year, and that's pauling's Pearl.

Who's a good horse, you know, maybe at the Twilight of a

career maybe just hasn't gotten it together this year in a

meaningful way, did win in a great three in Houston over,

muddy go her wet. Numbers are awesome, she's 5414

Lifetime on dirt. That's that's a fast.

Go certainly certainly a playable horse here.

If you're looking and frankly, Mike's not wrong.

If you want value, that's going to be ten, eleven to one

college, girl, might be. Yeah, yes, you definitely will

be around that number. So let's move on real quick to

the 10th race, which is the Edgewood stakes.

And this is a mound of 16th on the turf, and I think there's a

lot of shot, a long shot here. Who could make some new Kind of

like a girl named Charlie, Gina 10K.

Tell, you know, just won, two straight, wonderful, one of the

distance and just, I like the number of 15, and I've got a

little, I got a cousin, who's got a growing Taro so there it

is. Yep.

Yep. That I thought, I thought this

race was the hardest race on the card.

I think, I think there are six or seven Phillies that if they

won this race. Wouldn't surprise me at all.

You got Chad Brown with a horse that with I read that has only

made one. Start broke her maiden down at

Gulfstream. A loop to Vega, Philly and loop.

The vague as one of the leading sires in Europe, stands for a

hundred and forty two thousand dollars away.

Which is I'm going to guess that behind the by a and Frankel

might be the highest ever heard of them together.

Ha ha ha, but I thought, I thought this game.

This race was extremely hard. I did like the nine horse.

Papa, Leo Hélio was one of the key.

We have poppy Leo her race in the Appalachian.

Last time out, she came down the stretch and the jockey, and now

I closed my book and can't us, it's calcium.

Yeah, he had, she was Was she was looking in the grandstand at

Keeneland, trying trying to lay on a horses on the inside of her

and he had her head turned at a 45 degree, angle to keep her out

off those other fillies and she still got up in one.

So if I had to make one pick out of that race.

But if you're playing, if you're playing, horizontally through

pick threes pick Force, Big Five's and you got to use a

bunch in here. So, I'll Hope and I think this

is, I'm using the horse that's run, once Chad Browns,

preliminary the British bread. I read Ortiz aboard, love that

made race, my back of Washington Gulfstream.

Over the firm, go over the you and Dan agree on something.

And so I just, I ya know, that happens a lot actually with

horses, otherwise, not so much what he hum, yes, I've ever on

top. And, you know, I agree with Dan.

I give a pic for out on the sheet that today and I don't

think it's close. This.

Yeah. This is the race that I spread

the most in. Yeah.

Yeah. That makes sense.

Oh, excuse me ma'am. You talk as loud as you want.

That's why we're here. Don't have to do actually where

you want from from Northern Kentucky Fort Mitchell.

Kentucky for Northern Kentucky Turf L.

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There we go. Go.

Go to Turfway. Oh yeah, they're all right, all

right enough. We love it.

This what? She's not too sure about what's

going on here. She's giving us the evil eye,

this, whatever you go. We are doing live radio and

explaining what it is that we do for a living.

And so that's just how that goes, lots of horses to like

here. Again, horse racing, happy

our.com, you can find all my picks, two bucks, a day Oaks and

Derby, we wanted to keep the price low so that more people

can Hang out, go get our pics there.

All right, let's move. Let's move on to Race Six, which

is the race that we're getting ready for here next.

Want to make sure people have plenty of time to bet.

So that's what we do here again. We got to jump back and forth

about it. So this is the the to turn race

for older Phillies. And yeah.

So we're looking at a Turf race here while in a 16th scratch,

the three only scratch the three and scratch.

The knife scratch, the 3 and the 9 is correct.

Did he hear Louis? Is there?

Horse is didya, the pickers are there horse here?

Who can beat that? You horse didya.

I waited on the 7 here and that shots a sorrow.

And I apologize, your toes will be white with chalk if you bet

this horse, but I think that she's the class here know that I

agree right now, Iva to the 2 and the 7 are both 5 to 2.

And the 6 is 3, 2 1. I thought the seven Louis would

be. I thought you'd be looking at

you know, six two five seven, two five.

Yeah, I I think There are three horses of class in this race.

They are all being bet. Like they are the three horses

of class in this race, the 722 in the sixth.

No question about it. Shauna's are absolutely class

here trained by Chad Brown the six horse.

Make you look absolutely classic trained by Chad Brown and then

you have DDO who's trained by natural Carreras Ignacio garraus

written by Vincent Shimano and those two are really becoming an

effective Duo against bigger barns together.

So they're winning at 15%, but these are in races against Chad

Brown against Brad Cox against those bigger.

Alright, we're watching them running.

Huge spots and still pick off one in every six races, that's a

huge number. Do you remember what Danny said,

Chad, Brown, Iran or Jimmy's on the grass?

That's number six, my kulick001, love it and think some cool it

for sure. And I want to make sure people

understand when they see the odds on the tote board.

Louis, that's the odds to win and it's just the wind pool odds

that you see on the tour tote board.

So we're going to see a lot of people try to play exotic exact

as and And you can get because there's so much money in those

pools flying around. You can actually get pretty good

return on those traffic tibet's this you know, oh no question.

Especially if you get a second place or like, you know you

mentioned like it may be a sweet guy and a girl in the first in

the one hole here, she's been down, but down to H1, right?

Good reason. One at a last timeout Milan to

60 on the turf, open lengths, get it.

It's a list of six in Florida but still if you beat bad horses

by a lot, that's what you're supposed to do.

You know I cheer for That guy he was Carlo.

Yeah, I'm resting up. Yeah, he had he had a little mic

with Dale Romans little Mike remember one couple million

dollars and he's a restaurant tour and he said you know what,

I love the horses too much. I'm giving up the restaurant.

I mean he still has restaurants when somebody else runs a I

think he opened one in Lexington recently but he so small operate

was running a restaurant owned and horses.

And he said, no, I can do that and and he's been quite

successful at it. So I cheer for guys like that.

All right, even itsp figure. Last time, I mean these it's not

a made-up thing and that's why she's down to 82 water and yeah,

on the warhorns area, move down the one, I don't know the three

obviously scratched out, is there another value playing

here? You know, Sparkle Blues, been

running and really, really big company.

If you wanted someone who just ran a good race and December,

it's coming off a little bit of a layout for a grand motion.

For example, the for Sparkle blue random, the grade one

American Oaks, At a mile and a quarter at Santa Anita, that was

a two minutes, her price over a mile and a quarter.

That's very fast and she lost by less than a like under Joe

Bravo. She gets you all Rosario here

that's an upgrade and jockey for me.

And so I would look for I would look for that to be a possible

plate underneath here. The for Sparkle blue green

Brendon, Walsh's horse the eight New Year's Eve morning line.

Fadh2 one, is out six to one, but really hasn't done much in

his loss to this field. I don't understand what that

horse is that it's that 61 and not ten to one, you know?

What do you think about? What do you think about the a

tie? I don't get it.

I don't get the 621 on the 8th. Yeah.

Moving that way. When other horses are moving

down. So lady, rock star was ten to

one morning line. Moving down to 28 and one here

that's a Tyler and Brendon Walsh Combi combination with the

other. Brendan under Louis ayahs you

can have your opinions about. I learned about Louis but

there's nothing wrong with Luis saez in this spot here,

especially this horse s, awfully off here, which Brendon Walsh

does it a terrible percentage? You know, 27% if you do

anything, get 20% in horse racing.

It's unbelievable. If you could climb above 25 it's

even more exceptional. And so just an absolutely

undervalued horse you might be right here.

Mike at 6 to 12 years. Even that spot might be World

play. Actually, I don't like museums

actually I'll take I was actually the opposite.

He did she did was come and when the Edgewood last year this

weekend, but really hasn't done anything since okay, you know,

there's a horse is not one in 2023 or if you want a jockey who

hits the board like a crazy. Yeah, Louis is the second and

Brendon, Walsh has had a great meat so for sure.

Yeah. There's not this is if you like

a horse here, you're going to get paid the favorites 522.

The longest shot on the board is 9 to 1.

Now, I know there were a couple of scratches, we're down to

seven horses, but that's, that's a pretty even board, right?

Very even more. But that's what you get on these

days, right? Dan.

I mean, you get just these great Fields.

Yeah, Yeah. From now on, it was a little, it

was a little more talking to the stakes a little chalky to start.

You have the steak races are going to be terrific a little

Cooper, a in town here. Yeah.

He's got he's all nope. No credit.

Only does have one of those. Yeah, credential.

Nice credentialed. As you are, playing a bigger it,

is he he's not barking. Okay.

Mark, I'm sure Blake is here, you know who's not here?

Who's that? Round Eddie round daddy's not

here yet. I hear, he's not crushed.

Put it up on Twitter at Radio? Louis is James people actually

gonna show today. It's gonna be a good take, it'll

be interesting to see what happens with that one.

So to see if he comes in, so we are about eight minutes away

from the 6 race. Dan.

I think we can kind of get let's see real quick.

If we can get to hold on for one second.

We've already talked about the 10th.

So really the next six weeks for us to talk about is the Oaks

which will do all next segment after this race is over.

Let's get back to the little bit about the Kentucky Derby.

And, and how are you looking at the Kentucky Derby right now?

Like, what are you, what are you thinking about?

Cuz there's a lot of you like a Playa Derby Oaks double?

Right? So, yeah, yeah.

You know, I I may be a complete idiot.

No. Now, let me rephrase that

completed. I am a congregate and oh, who

I'm throwing out in the derby, who's that 4K, Chuck Chuck D.

Do you see these hats Chuck him? I did not like, well, I know,

but you didn't cut me in on that deal so I don't care.

Yeah, we did. Oh, you did oh, well, then I

think for tail win it. I you tell us why I didn't like

his last word. Okay, Todd said.

All of his Oaks and Derby horses out and they all went in 48 and

a piece. He went in 49, in a piece.

I, I don't, I don't like the way that he galloped yesterday.

Even, even without the tripping, I didn't like that.

And I go back to the Florida Derby, and Lily, I told you this

right after the Florida Derby, I think they got to the bottom of

this horse. Got a bet.

I mean, I think they had Everything.

They were going to get. He walked into the Winner's

Circle and he looked, he looked like a merry-go-round Pony at

the fair. I mean, he was shot.

He just stood there. Like, he couldn't take another

step and I just, I don't know. He doesn't look to me.

And I certainly don't have a trained eye, but he doesn't look

to me. Like he's coming in full of

energy to this race. Okay.

I just put it together down. So this never happened,

something just having the Never Okay, what's up people?

Listening horse racing. Happy hour if you're not

familiar. I host a radio show with the man

who's joining us today. His name is Dan Issel.

He was a coach and a GM and nothing else.

And he it's on tend to dude here on our local ESPN affiliate in

Louisville, Kentucky SP and 680 and a nice man walked up and he

got chased by the credential people.

Oh and he said, hang on, hang on.

And he tried to get my jokes and put the mic down because I could

tell he was trying to say, all right?

And it's Brandon and Brandon Works a job.

He cannot listen to the radio. So he gets home at night and he

downloads our show on the podcast and listens to us

laughter. Where did he go to you?

Just about just a copy up because on, yeah, he was trying

not to be a nuisance, I guess to the, the credential people he

was here with his lady Jordan. So if you look goes back and

listen to this, Brandon Jordan appreciate both of you and he's

just one of those guys, he listens every day and I get a

message from him on Twitter if you say something funnier, if I

say something funny and it's like 12 hours after we did the

show because he's just One of those jobs.

So, so in the time, we've been doing the show together what

you've gotten to tweets. Something we say that's funny.

I whip that Brandon has sent me over 100 mess.

No way. You get a lot more, you think?

No way stun and what's cool about a guy like Brandon and we

have them on the podcast and Mike knows this.

We have people that we get to know Mike Miller we actually get

to. Yeah that's a great example

around the country, the OE, she's in l.a. like people all

over the place where we get to know them.

We get to know their families. We get to know their spouses

even at the spouses. Don't listen to through doing

this. You're doing.

This, that's a long form, stuff is awesome, because they get to

know you and Brandon, make sure that you listen to every day.

So he sends me a message all the time and and it's sometimes it's

like, hey Lou. I really disagree with you.

And I agree with Dan or I disagree with you and I agree

with you stacking. That's what it's all the time.

But what? Well, when we do this, when we

remind me sure, when we do this Monday morning, because we'll be

back on our regular upright. You'll be a single spindle will

be in the studio from 10 to 12. Remind me and we'll do a

shout-out. Co-branding we've done it before

where believe or not believe. Coming up on coming up on coming

up here, we have to talk about Kim.

That's always gonna say, let's go shopping.

We met a woman today, waiting in line for the, for the shuttles

to get over here, from Northwest Indiana, northwest Indiana from

the region, and she was there, and she had a blue ribbon on and

a lot of people wear pink today. We talk about breast cancer

today, as part of the Kentucky Oaks which the survivors parade

if people don't know around the country or in frankly even

locally where women and now it sounds like there including men.

Yeah in the survivors parade which is great.

Awareness of cancer and the treatments and different options

that people have and they walk on the track and they come in

front of us and you will hear that.

Probably is it before, 2:00, it's closer to the outside.

It's might be closer to you guys.

So you may not hear that. I think, once they start

stretching the races, got a little wrinkle.

They have the, the parade, which is so touchy every year and

undoubtedly, we know, one or two people that are in that parade.

And you know what? It really touched me.

Because if you followed me at all, the last, the last year

people have have followed how I felt with my Life not feeling

great and having to have surgery in December and those things and

it was a cool moment for me. And if I get emotional, I

apologize. She shows us the ribbon and

before she can say anything, her husband is so happy that he just

burst out seven months. She's a seven month, ovarian

cancer survivor. He was so excited, and it was so

beautiful. Such a cool moment.

Celebrate Women's Health today and so we were just celebrating

Women's Health. We are celebrating.

Those of you who are either, you know, dealing with cancer have

beaten cancer. Hopefully, if you're like me, it

would have been my brother's 49th birthday today.

He had leukemia the treatments for leukemia.

Oh, by the way, I work with a guy named Bob Valvano, he took

pills and he's better. Yeah.

And my brother and my brother diver had that opportunity ever

had that opportunity. And you know what?

What a great advancement that we have that.

If it ever happened to me, or my children or whatever, they would

have that option course, the V Foundation there even say she

sure, right course. But just that's what it's about

today. And we wanted to give Kim a

shout out down here, came down from Northwest, Indiana to be of

the survivors parade today. Esther and her husband.

No man, that hit me really hard. Just how happy was There's

almost a pride about it because, when your, when your spouse is

sick, it's a team effort. Obviously, it's harder on one

person than the other of, man. It's a team effort, and there

are a lot of days, man. Right now, even my wife doesn't

feel great. I'm a single parent a lot and

so, I understood how he felt in that moment.

That was a very cool - hi Kim. Congratulations.

We hope it keeps up and just awareness of these things.

Now, Dan is so different than I'm sure.

Even you can remember 30 years ago.

Sure people would discover cancer too late.

Yep, no. Right.

I mean, screening someone's hours.

Yeah, that was it I mean there wasn't any surviving or there

was no parade? No no no well they are getting

ready to load the gate here very soon.

We're less than a minute away from post time, we're going to

go ahead and take a break. We'll come back with the results

of this race. We're going to talk specifically

about the Kentucky Oaks get into the Kentucky Derby.

So you that you have your Oaks Derby double ready to bet.

So we'll be right back. This is the horse racing.

Happy hour. Welcome back to the horse

racing. Happy hour live from Churchill

Downs, for Kentucky Oaks 149. Now, here's Mike.

Louis and Dan James? Bring the hip hop and we love

it. We're back here in live from

Churchill Downs, the race, just finished.

Now, if you remember, when I started this segment, talking

about handicapping that racist, who's gonna beat the two and

then you just said the 7 horse was, but of course, the to still

come Through the wind. So seven still running as Louis

said earlier, so you know by Lewis picks up, that was when

he's killing. That was my pick to.

I guess, I had a hard time picking a Colonial Downs

graduate against Chad Brown, she won for fun.

It's fantastic stuff right there.

So, I don't know, slowly taking a break.

Or is he just gonna jump out the show's?

Didn't Casey go on, right. It's fine.

We'll do this dance. All right.

We can do this. Louie, Louie wants to step away

from the mic a little bit. We won't let me have my

Limelight, every once in a while, just pounding, that's why

he's pouting. All right, so let's get into the

Kentucky Oaks right here. Dave, do you want to talk and

tell you jokes at all? I guess not you didn't watch

out. He's out, he's out of there.

All right. Look really tan.

I know you love South lawn. Yeah.

Tell us a little bit about Silas.

I don't know, I don't know. South lawn can beat wet

painting. I mean, you look at at what

she's been able to accomplish as she won the series. 43 year-old

Phillies at Oaklawn Park this winter.

The she's 522 on the morning line, but I saw I saw the odds

earlier, and she was down 2725. Well, she's going to be, she's

going to be a big favorite in the oh, well, I paint on the 75

are wet. Paint is down to 70.

That's what I saw. I saw a couple hours ago.

That she was 725. I just like South Lawns last

race. Now, if you go back, she she

hasn't hit the board into starts here at Churchill.

But Mike, I read an article that said that she had what they call

a tie back. She had an operation on her

throat, and since since she had that operation been holding

reports, she is 242 and very impressive.

She want an allowance race at the fairgrounds and then Beat

what what seemed to be at the time.

I don't know if it'll prove true, but at the time, seemed

like a really, really good race because pretty mischievous who

is in this race? Was there in there?

The Alice look was in half right there.

Who's your Filly? This Tom Amos proclaimed fastest

horse in the world Hulu and I love Frozen time was in there

and and South lawn, quite frankly one the Grace pretty

easily. So I think I think there's only

three horses that have a chance. Now Botanical has made her

laugh. Her all of her career starts

either on the grass around the synthetic.

Right? But she's by blame out of the

street cry. No excuse me.

She's by magali Bureau out of a Blaine Mayer so she shouldn't

have a problem with the dirt and Brad Cox told us a couple days

ago that she seems to be training on it.

I think it between South lawn Botanical and wet paint.

I don't see how any of these other Phillies come close to

them. The only losses were Botanical

actually have it on the turf, right?

Sadly never lost. Otherwise going back to South

lawn and Lily. I know you like South lawn a lot

to I think Louise back on the show.

Maybe we're see those speed figures ever since that throat

surgery have just like they jumped off the page.

It's been an unbelievable Improvement.

Very fast. Yeah.

Very fast, very fast. I don't know.

What do we all see absolute wild card in this race.

It really is a close. Look, if she's in this race, I'm

including her and tickets. Period, the challenge there.

If Hoosier Philly were in this race, everyone can laugh.

I would include her my tickets because you don't know what

you're getting. We're still talking about very

young horses, we're talking about horses that frankly are

still figuring it out, right? Yeah.

That's the best thing you and I talked about all time, follow up

with the Phillies because they do run a lot.

Lot longer caravels running as a six-year-old today we And it

would not be running if she had different different genitalia.

Just wouldn't be the case, right?

And so, in this case, I mean, well, I guess you fall in love

the geldings, then right then, well, you know, why is Dan like,

you know? Forgo my goodness.

All right. So I the I do want to say based

on works because Dan, Mike has tossed, Hoosier Derby horse,

that you're not in mayor enamored with because it works

doesn't. The track reincarnate, right?

Promised. Our America in this race for me

is the opposite of that. Yeah, being loved a lot of being

here. Loves it is keyed up, ready to

go and on the morning she knows the race comes in it.

Isn't that amazing there? We saw a horse here yesterday

for our good friends, the Foley's Bango yes.

Is now 10 for 17 at this track. I believe 10 for 17 against good

horses. And next, yes, mostly steak

races. Then next race, he wins at

Churchill. He will tie the all-time record

for the most wins. At Churchill Downs.

You know what his record is that every other track over his life

2412? Wow, he's 2412 every place else

and 10 for 17 on this panel on top yesterday for the that

reason that end of the course, or the course, is what we said

is really coarse. But promised, our Americo did

run in the gazelle one. It's we've seen search results.

Came out of that race. We've seen other very, very

good, Phillies come out of that race.

I get it. Even another horse coming out of

that gambling. Girls going to be short on the

line because of the connections promise for America to me, not a

winner Dan but a horse, that makes up your Trifecta.

Superfecta kind of bent in the ocean.

You know why? I'm throwing those New York

horses that what's that? What's the horse's name?

You love to say? Oh shit a booty shooter booty

that's a that's a Chad Brown horse, she ran in that race.

Yes. And finished third, okay?

And and Chad said, she's not ready for the Oaks.

We're going to say Save her for later.

So that's why I'm not taking the New York Phillies to Serious

angle. I like that.

So loyal. Let's go back to Wonder Wheel

for just a sec. Yeah, sure is obviously

Champion. Two-year-old Philly.

When the juvenile juvenile Philly, just 2 for 2 in her

starts at Churchill Downs. Lots of times.

We talk about that horses. Who like Keeneland?

Don't always translate. She loses a Keeneland.

So make a hook. Maybe the Churchill's a better

surface for right here. Yep.

Right here. What do you what do you make of

that sonko. So that she had Start the year

table Bay. Oh no, look I'm not.

Okay the Suncoast was considerably better right?

She runs Better Off the Bench there against a bad deal of that

field. I just didn't feel like she ever

really completely like fired though.

At the same time I couldn't find that extra gear especially when

she was a top, put the stretch she couldn't take it in but you

know what, if you look if you go back she was champion philic

because she won the Breeders Cup Juvenile.

And the alcibiades at Keeneland For that.

I don't recognize a horse in there that she beat.

She beat chop chop by a nose in the alcibiades.

Chop-chop is an allowance horse for Brad Cox dropped out.

Wasn't a pretty unexceptional Philly to just hit.

Yeah I don't think she beat much Aquila last fault.

What do we make of that? Breeders Cup, juvenile fillies.

I mean it really kind of fell apart.

Didn't usually, we talk about from two to three, the Phillies

maintained and the Colts fall off.

If their greatest two-year-olds is Colts.

We say sell them because they're not going to be greatest hero.

With Phillies, we usually think okay they're going to develop,

we're going to see him again, it's gonna be awesome BC,

juvenile fillies the champ. We think oh yeah let's see her

in the arms man. That is just not the case this

year and it's a reminder in horse racing Trends matter but

boy once in a while they don't. So this year, it's a total flip

to have forte in this. I've mentioned it, we did a spot

with NBC this morning on their socials.

I think it's since Nyquist and I know you're tossing Forte but

not in our joint ticket. No that's on the It is it is a

piece of 2016 with Nyquist that we've had this.

We've had a horse that hasn't lost since June, right?

All he does is Win. Yep.

His last loss of Sprint, right in the Saratoga special.

And so, you know, these kinds of things with Forte.

Wonder Wheel did the opposite. She was great last year.

You know, she even went to debutante here in July, on July

4th. I think that was Stephen Foster

day and just picked us a two-year-old.

She's just kind of you know you made a good point Louis about

Selling them. We saw we there's a horse

running tomorrow. I think it's tomorrow Desmond

mounds and Desmond bounds dead body.

Damon. I'm not real good with names.

I'm like he he broke his Maiden here first.

Start by 12 legs, went to Saratoga want to one.

The Saratoga special. They were offered seven figures

for that horse after that race. And I get it, you know, maybe

They've got they enjoy the horse more than they needed the money.

But seven figures of seven figures that horse hadn't had a

horse neighing smelled the board since yesterday in the

two-year-old race. We saw the exact the exact

opposite. They bought an Oxbow Philly at

Keeneland twenty or thirty thousand dollars.

She aired the fastest race at Keeneland, the baby races this

spring and they sold her. I don't know how much so Her for

a bunch of money. They gave her to Brad Cox.

And she won the juvenile yesterday, farther than you can

hit a 5-iron. So, you know, some some up.

Sometimes it works out, but but that's the juvenile in May if

you can take. Yeah, well, same way with

Desmond miles. What I'm saying is they sold it

before that race, so that you're comparing demons Mound group.

Now, with the group, that's sold that Billy immediately, that's

not a fair comparison because they sold and she won the next

race. Sure.

Sure. But that doesn't mean she's

going to go win again. No no no, no, but what I'm

saying is which I'm agreeing with you.

What you said earlier? We generally agree on the you

got you've got a horse that shows a lot of ability.

Going forward, a half five furlongs in May adios baby

pulling her out of your ass. All right, so let's set of

course 40 bucks that Trend. So with that I'd love to hear

how you're going to bet the Oaks and then after we get how you

doing with the jokes, the other thing I want to do first, is the

next race is the Bells. Yeah, and so this is the wait

until they kind of came on, we don't know but we I think it's I

think it's worth good know because we're talking about

Superstar sure. We have a potential Superstar

here. Yep, and munnings, gold.

Money's gold, excuse me. The nine who is now bent down to

158 you and I are not surprised by that bad at all.

I read Ortiz. Todd Pletcher ran a 10-6 fire

set. The track record as a

three-year-old Philly at Tampa Bay Downs last year.

Dance favorite track, believe it or not, he thinks not only the

owner but the the track itself should be in the horse racing

Hall of Fame. The man that's an inside joke.

I hope like three people got that really good.

Yeah, I hope three people. I bet I barely got it.

Were you academically as you see?

Yeah sorry there it is. Yes.

I will petition against guys who went to Ole Miss and Alabama you

know but I was all I was all academic.

My guess is your face man. Der Bilt.

Yes. So the other horse in here

though and so monies, go, let's talk about her first.

Yes, a munnings obviously, right?

Without you door on the bottom. Royally bread.

Here are three hundred thousand dollar purchase goes to Tampa.

After being a Gulfstream has won all three of her races breaks

your maintenance, a two-year-old in the summer at Monmouth.

Give her a ton of time off. She runs a Gulfstream in

January, the in the championship mean, then runs in that in the

all. That's the Sophie Amanda Sophie

Phillies is, I think it's the sophomore Phillies.

That's, excuse me. That's what is the software?

Phillies Go Tampa? It elicits takes no, Lasix

today. Does that bother you at all

dance? No.

Okay. No, because it is unusual by the

way, because it should be mentioned.

So that people know this Lasix is a medication given to horses

is a diuretic. It's it usually in Most states

two-year-olds cannot run with it right in Florida.

You excuse me? A New Jersey.

You can so she goes first. Asking in Monmouth.

Okay, she goes down to Florida and she runs with Lasix.

Usually if you're preparing for say, a Kentucky, Oaks you would

not run a horse on Lasix, correct.

Because you cannot run on Lasix in the, in the Kentucky Derby.

Does it give you pause at all that they did that?

Or no. No.

And and Lasix as you said Lasix is a diuretic.

It is not. It does not enhance a horse's

perform a jury. What it does is it keeps it

keeps the horse or has a chance to keep the horse from from

bleeding, right? And there are other ways that

are legal. Yes, that you can keep a horse

from. What do you talk about?

Bleeding what? Part of the body from the lungs,

right? So yeah, every time a horse runs

and this is even in the field if they're just jogging around

their lungs. Bleed, it's just part of their

species and some some bleed a little bit and the only way, you

know that they bled is if you scope them after a worker or

after a race, some are so bad at just gushes out of their nose,

like a nose, like a bloody nose, and a human being sure.

But no, because if people don't know, horses cannot breathe

through their mouths, right? Only passage to the lunges

through the nose, right? Yeah.

That's great point. But I saw this horses last race

where as you said, send the track record as a three-year-old

Villi and and I read rotor and he could not have been more

statuesque in the saddle. Never move.

Never moved his hands and she goes in 120 flat.

I mean, I really wanted 344 and 1108 and once while I think your

Looking at the next really. Big.

Now I don't know how far she can go, but the next I guarantee

right now. It's good, that Olive level.

Oh yeah, I think, no, but that's what that's a comparison right

now. I'm that's why I'm asking your,

I guarantee if she runs this way today.

The acorn will be her next start, it should be.

Yeah. Great one.

Yeah, and it's wrong turn, but people don't know about that.

That's a race at Belmont on Belmont day.

The acorn is the New York version of the Kentucky Oaks It

just happens to be at a mile over one turn because Belmont,

so, big, right? That and frankly, they start in

the middle of the back stretch because they'll not so big.

It's not like Churchill where we have to have a shoot, which is

pretty normal but one turn mile so that if she can go, the seven

furlongs back-to-back with just seven days of a braille.

She can go the full Mile and not have a problem.

So just think about it and you're gonna start the pick five

here, you get single, and this leg single Caravelle, the next

leg and if you like wet paint a lot, I mean, you could really do

that if you really want You. But you, it gives you a pretty

affordable ticket, and these tickets are going to pay today.

Even if the favorites coming in, they're going to pay, there's

going to be money in the pool. We saw the early pick five pole

with a half million dollars. We really let you send out a

bunch of Maidens and allows races and that kind of thing.

It was it was it was over 200,000 on our before the first

race. Ya know.

I'm I would I would have thought it would be more but that's

early races that Satan's an allowance.

Yeah, at least, you know, for sure.

But yeah, but you can really spread that in the Watcher in

correct. And he while and that's our

first, yeah, and race. So, and in the Edgewood, yeah,

it's what thank you for and you need to spread in the Edgewood.

I agree that anyone else in this race.

I mean, you feel like she's a single flat out.

I mean, so here's the other horse and Dan and I it's a horse

Dan and I were talking about might as well go with it right?

Red carpet, ready? Yeah.

It's the six horse here and she did not like a mile of

Gulfstream. She loved the four gallons seven

furlongs. She loved the six-and-a-half

Furlong Fern Creek here at Churchill.

She's 242 lifetime of Churchill in my pics that I gave out, I

included the six just in In case munnings, money's gold didn't

fire or didn't like the track of whatever it is.

I totally agree that the nine is the favorite here and it isn't a

question, but we're still talking about three-year-old.

Phillies, red carpet. Ready to 42 here?

Rusty Arnold? I know you like Rusty for sure.

Lou sighs man, I just terrible last time out but in horse

racing do we it's your anything horseplayers loved and more than

drawing a line through races. No just give me.

Yeah. Well morte.

Give me a little reason to Chuck him.

That's exactly right. So so I think the six here, if

there's going to be another horse, it's going to be Louis

sighs. It's going to be red carpet.

Ready that jumps up, loves this track is ready to go.

All right, we never really officially got our Oaks picks.

So let's get our official fix and let's talk about that Oaks

dirty double and that will take us out probably to the about the

end of the show here. So Dan, how are you betting?

The Kentucky Oaks, I'm betting, the Oaks Derby double because I

like nothing more than to have my money too.

Tied up for 24 hours. So I am and I am using two

horses in the Oaks, okay? I'm using wet paint, and I'm

using South lawn. So that is the 7 and the 4,

okay? And then, in the derby, I'm

using a bunch, okay? I'm using verifying to, to

Phil's three, tap, it twice five, Mage 8.

The right scratched out. Re-election, I really don't like

I don't I don't get the Mage love with.

It's okay. It's okay, well, I'd say you'd

like Forte. Yeah.

And mange got Beetle length by Forte has Forte had to run like

20% more racing Mage. Did they and Fortune had

overcome like everything 14:10, you have to say something.

You can't make that face. Morte had to overcome the

backhoes position about. Let me tell you something.

Mage walks out of the gate, right?

He makes an early early, move around the turn to get to the

lead and then he gets tired in his third start.

I'll bet you right now. Whatever you want to bet, I'll

bet you made finishes ahead of forte tomorrow.

That's freaking God. All right, how much do you know,

what are we going to? Do you make it, okay?

All right, that way, say why does she hang on Monday?

You're in studio? Yeah.

Lunch for the four of us. Dan Sherry me and you know,

can't do that. Why?

Cuz I got to get to Denver, I can't have.

It was delivered at 11:00, okay. All right, her friends and

Studio brunch in studio 11:00 Sunday, Monday for foremost, I

got to make sure. Yeah, I think I don't think.

I think 500, you don't have to do all the foreigners you want.

14, 14 is Angel of Empire. The 17 is dermis odekake, the

Jags. I'm bettin the 022 Mandarin

hero. Oh yeah, yeah I'm sorry.

Thank you, thank you. I forgot about it.

Make sure man. And I are definitely doing that

tomorrow you and I agree on that one.

Yes. I remember to for sure.

So, okay. All right, there you go.

Let's dance Lou, how you panting yolks?

Just how you better yolks before.

Okay, do good question. So wet paint on top for me.

South lawn is second. I'm into you.

I'm gonna wheel wet paint and not a full wheel but a semi

wheel active wheel. I will do a trifecta with wet

paint 7 on top. Top six Botanical and second

the, for South lawn and second and then I'll use a bunch of the

other horses. In third, I like the Alice

looking third, she's the to gambling girl.

The three in the third spot, Wonder Wheel.

I will also use in the third spot in longer tickets.

I will include four horses to win the race.

Sure Wonder Wheel, Botanical, wet, paint and South lawn doubt,

4, 5, 6 and 7 in longer tickets because I think while I think

what pain is an Overwhelming favorite and I think she's a

deserve it. Favorite much more than anything

that's happening in the derby. Much more for sure.

She's not. If 725 is the number getting

better. I got 12:47.

Interrogating a, she's not. So you're getting a.

I would agree cult down people. Now, the ocean Lila.

Is it that bad? You know, I said this, when I

throw a horse, Mike, what are we doing?

When I talked about when I talked about, At the fairground

Oaks that South lawn one so easily, you know, in the flop.

It was all the fairgrounds for South Llano was fast.

Everything about that, what paint.

Yeah, but all the Derby, I'm thinking there's horses.

I mean, pretty mischievous Church.

She jerked her Bridal off and she's ten to one in the Oaks.

I don't know that this is, this is the strongest Oaks field

we've ever seen. It's interesting, too.

Because you, and I have talked. This is the as royally bread and

Oaks as I can remember. I mean, every you on, you know,

every sire I mean the dam is by someone, you know, sure.

I mean, it's remarkable. I mean, so any person created

mischievous, only happens to be in into Mischief with the tappet

mayor, like, I guess that's okay.

I guess it's okay for good dolphin.

She's tending one because it's okay smaller.

Smaller ship group. Could often a table ready for

them, Dan? Yeah, for five thousand horses

and just murdered anyone while my name, Oakes Derby, double

their Louis. Good stuff there.

What are we like on the hulkster?

Be double jokester. Be double for me, man.

I wouldn't plan. Okay, I wouldn't like, I am more

likely to play the pick three. What would be with the old

Forester Turf and the Derby? I like that bet a lot more.

Talk about that bet. Okay.

So people want to know, there are a bunch of to-day bets that

happen. You can actually do a pick six.

Today that starts with the two-day, pick six, it's a 1.

Minimum Dan, which I know you like.

Yep. Race night the lot riding on

today. So with the ladies today and

then raise 10 today the Edgewood which is that Fillion mayor?

Good luck Ray or the shoot me, the three old Filly race on the

turf. Good luck.

And then the Oaks the only way that you would want to play this

races if you have a very strong feeling about the law trillion

and about the Oaks, right? Because the Edgewood, yeah, good

luck with that, right? So those are the three races

today, 9, 10 and 11. And then it includes the three

races leading into the Kentucky Derby tomorrow.

Which includes the The Churchill Downs, which is good because

code is wishes in that race. So you may help you may have

three singles in this. In this sequence actually is

interesting, right? And then it goes to the turf

classic we're at which is the old for Suburban truth Kasich.

I agree with you again and then you get to the derby again

spread. Now that's a one dollar minimum

the nomination, over six races that believes going to get

expensive if we yeah we're a dollar very quickly, it'll get

expensive. I think as there's three races

in that sequence You Gotta Lose to you how to use.

Five, six, seven horse, and so to me, that's a you guys spend

1,000 bucks to play that reasonably.

I haven't that's not what this show is about so I won't be

playing it but that's that's starts that the the the pick

three that I'm talking about though, starts today it is

starts in race yolks that starts with the excuse me.

Thank you very much. It is the Oaks old Forester

Bourbon and Derby. Pick three.

You Pick the winner, The Oaks, you pick the winner of race 11

tomorrow on the turf, and then the Derby right after that.

So it starts today finish this with two races tomorrow.

You and I hit that a couple years ago.

Mike Bonita Spirit. Yeah it was I like four hundred

fifty dollar payout on 50 Cent's up like that it was pretty

chalky like for a while. Yeah and so that's one that we

really enjoy and so you know if we want to do we want to talk

about that. Sir Classic.

Come on, just so people because we got to get out of here.

So, yeah, we got we got James. How much time we got?

Look like two minutes, perfect. I want to ask one question.

Yeah, I know we're gonna put together.

Pick five ticket. Yes.

Are we, I have it sitting right here.

Are we looking at only the lake? Big Five.

Are we considering the dirt pit class, right?

So Dan, and I discussed that, we think it is only legitimate to

do the pick five that leads directly into dirt.

Okay, we wouldn't pick five conclude the Derby as well.

I understand the pool be bigger for the pick five leading of the

dirt. Okay, yeah, we're trying to

make, oh yeah. All right.

Fair to say. Yeah, okay, absolutely.

Absolute want to speak for die. Well, they're about 15 minutes.

Away here. We've only got a couple minutes

left on the show. Again, some very playable

sequences coming up with some singles.

Potentially here with the text line text.

I do like y'all ignoring James chiming in about lunch feed for

the producer of the film. Sure, we will make sure, maybe

even Who would do that? I'll bring in some homemade

spaghetti meatballs or something like that and we'll go with you.

Hello there? There we go.

That's what we're talking. That's lunch.

Baby. Yeah, make sure you fall asleep

when I drive back to travel straight through.

No, no, no, no. We're too old to do.

What do you what do you stop? Usually around Kansas City.

Okay, that's about half way. We'll learn it.

So race 11 tomorrow, let's do a real quick.

The news that and is a chocolate isn't really, was your topic in

that race time. I got the 7 on top.

Yeah. I, you know, Kong Hong, Kong?

Harry. Do you use for widen their 798,

and five for me? It is well beyond tomorrow,

webbed 55 or is alive. My God.

We'll see you tomorrow. 11:00 to tune in and get your Derby

picks.