Louie Rabaut, Dan Issel, & Kevin Kilroy preview the Haskell, CCA Oaks, & the Jeff Hall Memorial.
Louie, Dan, & Kevin preview the Haskell
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We bring Kevin Kilroy in. I will not ask him about
Kentucky's offensive line because I think that would be
unfair to him. But he is presented by the
Kentucky HBPA and they're going to have a college day on Sunday,
July 30th out in Ellis Park. How about this?
Dan, you ready for this? Yeah.
A drawing in each of the nine races for an iPad, mini and air
pods package $1000. Scholarship was just $1000 check
to the student and a $150.00 gift card.
Virtually every student who registers will get either an
Ellis Park branded bag or a $10 food and beverage voucher.
So this is a collaboration between the Kentucky HBPA and
Ellis Park. They're giving out nine grand in
checks and iPad mini and air pods for every race.
Avery, you should probably pretend to be a college student.
Make your way down there on Sunday, July 30th.
There you go. I'm sure you still have your ID.
Just make it happen, Kevin, when you were in college, did they
even have computers? You know, you know, back in the
day, got my first e-mail account, I think sophomore year,
something like that, right? No cell phone, nobody.
I I held out on the cell phone. No, didn't want to mess around
with that. But yeah, that's a good, that's
a good set up there, Those college kids that need to go
down there, get that $1000 scholarship, get that iPad and
get hooked on the horses, right, And then maybe bring that money
back to the window. Yeah, that's right.
Do that quick. You know, do the, the, the, the
phone. Take the picture of the check
and then it's in your checking account.
Boom. In your AD.
W your bet and there you go Kevin Kilroy joins us he's got
he's got all this stuff up at our first Gen. to inspires your
your blood horse this weekend. Did I hear that right?
Yeah, just finishing up a big old piece for Blood Horse.
It's going to come out in the September issue, the print in
the magazine all about the Bango and the Foleys.
Greg Foley. Great.
I can hardly wait to read that. Yeah, I mean some some of the
true horsemen in our sport. So it's good to celebrate the
the people who do it right. You know, get those stories out
there, you know, and in the midst of of all the critiques of
horse racing out there that we know are being showered.
In our direction, there's just so many good people on the
backside that don't don't get to the limelight and I'm going to
bring the full lease up and talk about Bango so close to getting
that track record for time 11 for the most wins over the track
there. And and you know gun, I came and
stole it from him, but things are going well.
Looks like he's going to point towards the the Louisville
Thoroughbred Society in September and try to get it done
then. There you go.
Kevin Kilroy joins us at Trust Your Luck on Twitter.
It's become a fast friend of ours and.
We love having them on every week.
We're going to start doing a Kentucky race of the week here
because of our friends. We're hanging out with our
friends over at Kentucky HBPA but we will also talk big races
Haskell this weekend. We did a show on this last night
Kevin and and I and I said to to Brian Skurka from from Monmouth
when I think of the Haskell, this is the kind of field that I
want. I want the Derby winner.
I want a horse like tap a Trice who's got all the ability in the
world but just hasn't put it together in one of these high
level, you know. You know, post bluegrass, post
Kentucky Derby times the races, we get extra in Yaho, who we all
heard the buzz about last fall. And we get the Baffert, who's
trying to win the Haskell for the 109th time.
What? Who stands out in this field to
you? Do you think there's value here?
Is there any chance Johnny V pulls a national treasure, gets
Arabia Night on the lead and just kind of rocks everybody to
sleep? You know, I don't trust Arabian
Night. You know, I don't think I'm the
only one who who doesn't. I mean just just two races.
Of course it's hard to to, you know, know that he has a
foundation and you know that Southwest that he won at, you
know, Oakland Park there January 28th, won it by 5 1/2 links.
But that was a speed favoring track.
And who did he beat, I mean? At the time it looked like a,
you know, a solid field of of Derby contenders.
Sun, Thunder, J C's Rd. Western was in there.
Yeah, Corona, bolt, you know, true sprinter that was going
going along and he just took it to him on the lead.
So I don't think that even though the number was big, I
don't think that was as impressive as maybe it seemed at
the time. So I do think there's a lot of
pace signed up in here, right. I think we're going to have a
fast race which. Monmouth Park, you know you do
want to be forward on that track.
So it really comes down to three for me in here and and it is an
exciting field tap and try some beige, we'll definitely have
some pace to run into and and extra Najo I think is the other
one that we want to use. And yeah those are those are all
in the top of the logical. So there's not too much value
there. But I do think that Steve
Asmiston's talented. Tend to mischief.
Extranato could be the one that we want to look at to try to get
a price. I mean, like you said, everybody
was talking about him last year and and I got to see him, you
know, pretty regularly down to fairgrounds in the mornings this
past winter. Always looking good, always
looking professional, holding himself like a true true
champion on the track just every morning.
You know, as as a lot of Steve's horses do, I think, I think he
could step up in a good way, but he might be compromised if he
tends to that pace a little bit too much if things heat up.
He might not have the you know he might not have it to to keep
going fast there at the end but I do like that he's he's been
training at Saratoga. That's a track to train on in
terms of gaming fitness deep track tough track to get over
and that could that could spell good things for him to be able
to beat those that the Kentucky Derby winner there and then the
Tata Trice he keeps on knocking at the door but can't hasn't
gotten that big one done since the bluegrass.
Is your general take on this kind of race to play against
Mage just because he's going to catch so much money for having
won the Kentucky Derby? Yeah, I mean, I like that
thinking, you know, And I think that's one thing that's going to
make me. Because what you just said, by
the way, in that pace scenario actually would set up really
well for him because it happens a lot to run at.
Yep, it sets, it sets up for him.
In a big way, right. And then the Preakness, you
know, he didn't get it done there, but that was like you
were saying National Treasure just walked the dog out front
and just had it so easy. So he had nothing to to run into
there. So he he's fresh for this.
He's definitely a horse that the longer he goes, the more he
takes up his rhythm, really finds his stride and keeps on
finding more. So you know the the distance is
going to be good, even though it's a little bit shorter than
we've been doing the past couple times.
You know, if if the price is right, yeah, Mage is very
interesting but I do think he is going to get that pretty hard
being the Derby winner there. So it might be one that you know
just makes me sort of hesitate in terms of how I go after it.
But I think, you know if if I had to pick my bet now I would
put extranajo on top of those other two key extranajo on top
of Mage and tap it trice and just try to be as precise as
possible and and put a tribe back together.
He's Kevin Kilroy at Trust your luck on Twitter.
We head to Saratoga next the old CCA.
The old coaching club American Oaks is up there this weekend.
We get a field of six in a real mixed bag of results for these
these horses in here. Wet paint and absolute monster
on the way to the Kentucky Oaks. Doesn't get a great trip in that
race. Or Flavia and Pratt didn't do a
good job. However you want to look at that
comes back in the Monomoy girl last time and it's simply bested
by a Hoosier Philly. Who took advantage of the track
conditions there? You mentioned wanting to be for
Ford placed at Monmouth. Boy, was that true about Ellis
Park. Most recently she took advantage
of that. We do get Hoosier Philly here.
We get Gambling girl who ran a huge race in the Kentucky Oaks
and has been off since then. Three second place finishes this
year for her. All of them under Ira Ortiz.
What? Who do you expect to come out on
top of this? One first.
You know, now that we're talking about Saratoga, Dan, we've got
to pat ourselves on the back for being against Gold Sweep last
week. How good was that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you you see it all the time that Kevin, that
you know a maiden runs an unbelievable race.
The figures are terrific, you know, and we talked about it the
last even though that the gold standard won by a pole, you know
his the the final 16th of a mile wasn't that fast and of course
he was terribly compromised by by the break.
But no, I I I saw something yesterday.
There have been, I think I've got this right there.
There have now been 9 stake races at Saratoga.
The favorite has won a race out of the the favorites.
Are, are. Have lost eight of the 9 stake
races so far at Saratoga. Oh, I love it with it.
Yeah. The the graveyard for favorites,
right. Is that the the whole phrase
about the about Saratoga. Yeah, I mean those always
interesting to see to have those horses come back and it didn't
break well there, but the speed figure was so low, you can see
that it was just sort of a a regression sort of scenario.
This is a, this is a fascinating race and Louis, like you're
talking about you know Ellis Park really is, is a big part of
handicapping all three of these races because as you know, as
we've been saying Ellis Park. It was very speed favoring all
but two days that I have maybe 3 in that that Churchill down
slash Ellis Park meet with speed favoring it.
So what do we do with that, right?
We want to we want to play horses back that maybe we're
closers and compromised by that, right, and try to get some
value. We want to fade the horses that
went to the front and had it easy.
That being said. You know, and Extranejo was one
of those, right, who was able to be near the front and have it
pretty easy last time. But who's your Philly had it so
easy last time, right? Not only had had the lead, but
also just really didn't have to go anywhere near her top speed
to get it. 25 second opening quarter, right?
And a lower speed figure, which makes you wonder, makes you
doubt, but also. Makes you realize that she
didn't have to get to the bottom of her tanks and she's got she's
got more she didn't expend herself there right she didn't
use too much of her energy. So Hoosier Phillies seems really
dangerous in here. We've got to remember that you
know that was that was down on fairgrounds for those those
really disappointing efforts in the Rachel Alexander the
fairground oaks and it was it was tough we we we wanted that
good story for Tom Amos and we wanted to see her really raised
to the the bar that he had set for.
But turns out that, you know, she had some throat issues.
So they did my myectomy surgery to help her with her breathing
and her throat. And that's one of the big things
that we're seeing now with her, her good efforts.
She'd be here in these last two, you know, watching her train at
Churchill. I know you guys were watching
her in the morning as I was, but I had the oaks in case she got
in there. She was moving so well.
I think she's, I think she's back to that, to that Philly
that that Amos always thought she was.
Now that being said. This is a tough interesting
field. South Lawn.
Horrible trip last time in the in the oaks right way wide
chasing a super fast-paced and really just just folded in that
in that race there and she seemed like she was ready to
step forward. But in the north Cassie only two
wins in Saratoga. That's all he's got and and and
coming off this layoff you know it's something that he does
really well. He does great with horses off
off a layoff, gets him ready, gets him sharp and ready to roll
but. If the price is right on South
Lawn, I might be interested. Should be able to get a good
trip from the rail. But I think I want to fade South
Lawn. I also think I want to say wet
paint. Looking at, you know, I think
wet paint, what did I like to look at with with these runners
is what was their top effort in their sort of first few races?
It's kind of like you think about the high school sports,
right? If you don't sort of play at a
certain level in high school, we're not going to expect you to
get to the pros right? You're not going to expect you
to take these big jumps forward. So the two year old, if you
don't really show your talent and show your speed in a in a
big way, we're not going to expect you to be able to do to
be one of the best. And I think wet paints kind of
already hit her Max. Maybe she's got one more sort of
like minor step forward to make. I think gambling girl has
already hit her Max, she's looking lucky.
As well, you could say the same about South Lawn, but she's
another one who had throat surgery to to clear up
breathing, so maybe she's got another step forward.
I think that's the the wild card in there.
But I think wet paints trip dependent being from behind.
I don't, I don't want to trust that.
I know it's going to be a short price.
I know Costa's going to have her ready to run, so she's
definitely a a top three. But what about Sacred Wish?
George Weaver 12:50 on the morning line here ran in the
Black Eyed Susan if you watch that race back she was you know
who's your Philly dropped to the rail on the lead and really
caused issues for Sacred wish. One of the bigger checks that
you'll see that the jockey pulling so hard to to get out of
that spot and stay safe and losing multiple lengths and
really just getting out of the rhythm and out of the position
they wanted to be in. You know the last race there was
wide facing a really sneaky good bunch with sunset Louise and
just Catherine there just Catherine ran second in the
Wilton stakes with a 94 buyer the next out.
So I think Sacred Wish is a is a little bit sneaky in here could
get a good trip doesn't need to leave but has the ability to to
be very forward and maybe sitting on on a on a on effort
that that could be these. So I'm going to take a swing
with sacred wish use who's your filly underneath along with with
wet paint here. Kevin Kilroy with us at Trust
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This weekend, Ellis Park, man. Tomorrow a cool late sequence by
the way. The late pick four is a maiden
special a $78,000 purse, optional Claimer turf Sprint,
then the Jeff Hill Memorial, which is a 6 1/2 for a long
Sprint, and then another maiden special turf Sprint.
They're only going one turn the last four races of the day.
At Ellis Park tomorrow, did you find a race where you found a
little value or someone interesting there, Kevin?
In the Jeff Hall memorial is it's a fascinating race right
We've got the return of Obesos. Not only Obesos we also have
Necker Island 2 Derby horses in this field at Ellis Park.
So a great reason to get out there and get to the track and
and watch this race we all big Obesos fans coming out for break
Foley's bar. Absolutely, I was.
Yeah, I mean that he put some big runs together you know
losing to hot red Charlie midnight bourbon down at
fairgrounds and run 5th and you end up being made 4th after
Medina Spirit. You know the situation there he
he's really put some some game efforts together.
Once they decided he was a one turn horse.
I think he's found even more that Breeders' Cup Sprint run
his last race there. Last November.
That was the sneaky good one. If they were going 7 for a long
that day, I think he would have. He would have been up there with
Elite Power, CZ Rocket, Jackie's Warrior, right?
Finishing just 3 1/2 links behind the leader there.
I'm excited, I think. About him too, Kevin.
I mean, you know, you talk about him being in that Breeders Cub
Sprint, he ran 5th in the Derby. I mean in the Kentucky Derby.
I mean that's that's a personal horse.
That's just a gamer for sure. He's he's a big time gamer and
if you look at that work you can just see the number 47.
And two seventh best of 100 on July 14th, talking to to Travis
and Alex Foley. They were they were on their way
to a family vacation and they stopped early to watch the work
on the way to on the way out the door to the airport.
And they were, they were floored by by the workout.
So they're they're excited to have him back.
They hope that he can string a few races together.
They're great off of this long of a layoff.
You know 24% at the last 21, the Foley's do a really good job
with this. So I think he's one that we want
to trust. We want to see the price on
them, but we also have this horse chasing time from Steve
Atkinson. 4 year old. Colt, by not this time we see
Steve again and again have these courses with a lot of talent and
we know chasing time, you know with.
Arkansas Derby. Chick Lang Woody.
Stephen Runner. Couldn't get it done in any of
those races, but he knew the talent was there and that last
effort there June 30th at Ellis Park was it was definitely a big
time figure. Didn't beat too many strong
clothes, but definitely, definitely ran a big number.
The track was playing fair that day.
I have it as fair so. He did come from off the pace
but you know just as you would expect a good horse to do on a
on a fair track chasing time is super interested in here
classier as well. You can see we talked about this
that a couple of times. Brian Hernandez junior one who's
ridden Obeis before is on classier.
That cheer on McGee horse who seems to be sitting on a big
race looking at third grass. We have solidify #5 in here 50
to 1 morning line. Can I talk you into this one
guys? Solidify coming up for one
canoe, he he's that horse that you want to look for who you ran
on a speed favoring track but did really well coming from off
the pace to get the win so that the number is not huge, but
everything in terms of the track was going against them.
I don't want to put them on top, but I definitely want to use
them underneath for some value. Those are the horses that I'm
super interested in hear my song.
I think it's also what you've got to consider as well.
Probably a short price but definitely has been been running
well, so I'm going to. To work with those, try to use a
basis if the price is right just for a win bet and then use them
the value underneath with a couple of those on top in the
Jeff Hall. Kevin mentioned chasing time.
Christian Torres picks up the mount there and if you look at
his numbers, he's only winning 6% of his races at Ellis Park.
But when he gets the Steve Asmussen mounts, he's winning
40% of his mounts at Ellis Park matters.
It matters who you work with Kevin and that's why Dan does
this show he. It works with such
professionals. That's that's what's going on
here. So he's Kevin Kilroy at Trust
Your Luck on Twitter again. July 30th, College day down at
Ellis Park. Go check it out. iPads, air
pods, $1000 checks, all of that for each of the nine races.
Bring your ID and check in as a college student when you get
there. That's presented by our friends
at the Kentucky HBPA. That's College Day at Ellis Park
on July 30th. It's usually a very fun event.
Make sure you get out there. For that, Kevin, we appreciate
the time and we will talk to you next week.
Yeah, Louie, Dan, thanks for having me on and good luck this
weekend. Thanks, Kevin.
Here's Kevin.