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Now Here's Louis Ribow. All right, welcome into a July

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Ribow. I'm Louis Ribow.

Thanks for joining us here at the studios of ESPN Louisville

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state and all of the great people that make our sport go.

That's what we'll do today when we talk to Wayne Catalano, a man

who moved here most recently from Chicago but of course came

up in Louisiana. We'll talk with him about just

an incredible milestone of winning his three thousandth

race as a horse trainer. Before that, of course, over

1700 wins as a jockey. His start in horse racing is a

pretty cool and I think it's a fun story.

I really encourage you to hang around for that.

That'll be the 2nd segment of the show and in the third

second, we'll talk with my friend Danny Breuer down there

in Nashville, TN. We'll handicap the big week

races of the weekend, including the Jim Dandy and the the Bing

Crosby, which is a win and in for the Breeders Cup dirt Sprint

out there at Delmar. So they'll run that one at

Delmar in the Grade 1, the chosen Brown of course in that

field. We'll talk about that at the end

of the show as well. Try to help you with your

tickets as we get into a great Saturday of racing around the

country. But man, I went to the Haskell

this last weekend. I'm you know, I'm getting, I'm

getting, I'm getting old. I'm getting started to start to

have a list with less and less races that I want to attend on

it as as I get older. And and I'm also very, very

appreciative of the opportunity to travel and see these cool

places around the country. One of the best things, the very

best things about our sport, this thing called thoroughbred

racing is its regionality and how different it is place to

place. Heck, within our own circuit

here in Kentucky, we've got great regionality.

Keeneland and the Pea patch couldn't be more different.

Churchill Downs, Kentucky Downs could not be more different.

Have nothing in common. It's a pretty remarkable thing,

frankly. So getting to go to Monmouth

Park, visit that part of New Jersey, Spectacular,

spectacular. Had a great time, wonderful

people, beautiful spot. Has a Keeneland kind of feel to

it. Between how they present the

track, the size, the paddock there, all the things there.

Felt like a Keeneland junior, felt really comfortable, really

familiar, frankly, and I really enjoyed my time at Monmouth

Park. But we get a winner at Dornick

who can't be overrun by a mind frame for the second time in a

row. So of course, Dornick wins

earlier in the year in the Holy Bowl, then flattens out in the

Florida Derby, Qualifies though for the Kentucky Derby, comes up

here, doesn't run his best race and frankly catches the one post

ahead of that race. And frankly, just was never

going to be a factor on the 1st Saturday in May, they give him

the Preakness off. He comes back five weeks later

in the Belmont, wins that in a style I think that all of us

appreciate, which is, man, when you bet on a horse and he fades

in the stretch is not just the worst feeling, but when a horse

really rallies, really tries, really fights in the stretch.

And that's such a great feeling. That's so cool to watch.

And that's where we were with Dornick in the Belmont.

And boy, oh boy, if we didn't get the same exact thing in the

Haskell Mine frame, man, he shows his inexperiencer.

Is he just this kind of runner? Is he just not made for a mile

and an eighth? Should he be going a little bit

shorter? We saw him be really effective

at a mile and a 16th at Churchill Downs on Derby Day.

Is there a way for him to figure out how to get back to that

distance and not necessarily step into these longer mile and

an eighth mile and a quarter kind of races?

But it brings up an interesting question.

And I was thinking about this because of the Bing Crosby this

weekend, that winner win and you're in for the Breeders Cup.

And of course, the Haskell now qualifies Dornick.

He's got a starting spot in the Breeders Cup Classic gate.

Should he be healthy enough to run in November?

And I think there's a decent chance that if he's healthy,

he's running. And Danny Gargan will not back

down from that spot. And frankly, he shouldn't.

In a year like this, he shouldn't.

There's a chance perhaps this weekend that we see a Sierra

Leone, another runner in that Kentucky Derby, of course, right

there in the photo, finish second place.

Maybe this is the weekend he steps up in the gym dandy on

Saturday, wins, beats a fierceness, beats a sees the

Gray who already won the Pad de mile in the Preakness this year.

Maybe he finally asserts himself as a three-year old to really

contend with the rest of the year.

But boy, if he is frustrating and tried to figure out how he's

going to run, if he's actually going to pass horses in the

stretch, if that, if that lugging into the left thing

rears its head again at Saratoga this weekend.

He's got a ton of pace in front of them.

There's no excuses this weekend. Sierra Leone's setup this

weekend should be as good as it has been in any race he's ever

been in. But it is the Dornet question

about the Breeders Cup Classic and the Dornet question about

who the three-year old male is right now.

We know it's Torpedo Anna on the Philly side, that's not a

question we'll get to her in a second by the way.

But on the male side, it's a little more hazy to me.

And last night on the Horse Racing Happy Hour podcast, I was

talking with Scott Shapiro and we were trying to figure out,

we're trying to maneuver in a quick manner through who the

three-year old of the year might be right now.

Dornik may have done it by jumping up and winning

back-to-back grade once. And I think if you were voting

on it, you would put him in the top spot at this point.

Scott brought up, Hey, the Derby winner deserves a spot in that

top three in Mystic Day and I agree with him.

But then who is it after that? Who is it that jumps up and it

seems interesting to us? Is it is it a seize the grade

that gets that pad day mile gets the Preakness?

Is he a top three right now for the coach?

Is it a for yard for every young that we think is just really,

really talented? I'm not sure.

Maybe a domestic product won his last out.

Is Booth that good? The bad for trainee, I'm not

sure, but I'm seeing a lot of bluster about Thorpedo Anna and

the the the need for so many people to watch her run against

the boys. And, and to that I would say in

my mind, I get it. In my mind I get it.

Really in horse racing we only have two kinds of races.

We have those restricted to female horses and we have all

other races. And so by stepping outside of

those restricted ranks, those those Philly ranks that she's

been running in, in the Acorn and in the Oaks and of course

most recently in the CCA Oaks, she has an opportunity to go run

in the Alabama. She has an opportunity to run a

more restricted 3 year old Philly races going forward,

especially up at Saratoga. And if I'm Kenny Mcpeek, that's

what I keep doing. I let her go ahead if she's

ready and she's capable and she's good to go.

Keep winning grade ones, man. I don't care what the

restrictions are. Go win more grade ones.

Little $5000 home bred Philly man, 5 grand.

What a dream horse. My gosh, you talk about horse of

a lifetime, that's times a million.

But this obsession with running against the boys, it's an

interesting one. And I think it's one that's more

interesting when the horses are older.

Obviously, we have the Rachels of the world.

We have the Swiss Skydiver a couple years ago in that October

Preakness. It's not as though a torpedo.

Anna isn't capable. She probably is, frankly.

But do we really think she's that far ahead of all the boys?

Many of you do. Many people think she is, and

that's fine. A man.

Let her have a three-year old Philly campaign.

I love, by the way, Kenny Mcpeek saying, hey, this is where she

is. If you want to come visit, this

is where we're at. What a cool thing to do.

What a great way to offer that to the people who love this

sport. And there are a lot of them in

Saratoga Springs. But that's obsession with

running against the boys. I don't know, I don't know.

It's not for me. It's not a conversation that is

deeply interesting to me, but I know I have to talk about it.

But in my mind, if I'm Candy Mcpeak, if I'm that ownership

group and I've got a horse of the quality of Torpedo Anna who

can continue to pick off 6 figure checks in Grade 1 fields,

it's going to be mighty difficult to convince me to go

run into a field where perhaps that doesn't happen.

All the figures say that she can, All the speed, all those

things, they all make sense. But I think if you could pick

off grade ones and pick off those big, those big checks,

there's no reason to dabble in, say a Traverse or dabble in, say

a Pennsylvania Derby. You can win the cotillion.

You can win the Alabama for plenty of very, very good races

with huge purses that she could still run and pick off.

After all, owners got bills, man, Trainers have bills.

There's nothing wrong with winning a grade one either.

And finally for the Open, I just wanted to mention the the news

dump that happened right as we were going on air last week,

which was the Bob Baffert's suspension with Churchill Downs

Incorporated is over and I don't have a hot take here.

What's done is done. Generally speaking, for our

sport, it's best when the best people and the best horses are

able to race at the best place for horse racing.

We're all better off with a clean sport, but we're all

better off with a sport with a very best or showcased against

one another. It's why the torpedo and a

conversation is interesting to us.

We want to see the best against the best.

And it's why so many people were so polarized by the Baffert

suspension. And it's why it forced people

into emotional responses they probably didn't think they were

going to have. But here we are, and Baffert's

able to train. And of course, the first thing I

see in a headline that week, Baffert sends out two

interesting 2 year olds. Of course he does.

Well, maybe in Derby 151 we'll meet the next one.

I'm not sure. It's a long time from now, I say

that, but of course, the Iroquois right around the

corner, the Pocahontas is right around the corner at this case

of the Kentucky Oaks, but we'll deal with those when we get

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We are in the studios of ESPN Louisville airing here on ESPN

681057. Really pleased to be joined by

trainer Wayne Catalano. Just won his three thousandth

race. Have to ask Wayne how does it,

how does it feel to be introduced as a trainer with

three thousand wins? Well, you know, it feels great.

You know, it's been a, it's been a lifetime work that we had put

into. It takes a long time and a lot

of dedication, a lot of good horses and good help and you

know, clientele provide you with the horses and it takes a lot

teamwork to get there and I was very happy to choose that.

Yeah, it's interesting you you went there immediately and it's

something that stood out about your quotes around winning your

three thousandth race win was that you had your family there

with you at Ellis Park, right? This was clearly something that

you value as a as a three thousandth win.

You you wanted your family to be there with you.

Just talk about what it means. It, you know, you talk about

this, this group effort that horse racing really is right

between, you know, trainers and jocks and owners and, you know,

hot walkers and, you know, grooms and everyone else.

Talk about those 3000 wins, what it means to have your family

there as well. Well, you know, to win a horse

race is not easy. And they all come to watch the

races. Everybody does the same trying

to win a race. And when you get to try to make

a milestone like that and your family comes, it's not always

easy to get that one victory that you're looking for.

So they got to come out a couple of times, you know, here and

there or whatever. And to have them there on that

moment was great. And you know, my daughter, she's

like daddy, I had to drive 2 hours.

I got four kids. It's so hot down there, I can't

keep coming. But I get this one today.

So we, the first one didn't win and then we got real lucky.

The second one won for us and the rest is history from there.

But it was really special that, you know, she surprised me by

being down there, wasn't quite there.

We was driving and I didn't know if she was coming or not.

You know, when we saw her outside in the grand span, that

was a beautiful thing. That's awesome.

Wayne Catalano with us here on the Kentucky Racing Spotlight.

I'm Louis Rabo. Thanks for making us part of

your Friday evening. Look, I always ask when we have

trainers on how they got into the sport.

You're a Louisiana guy. I would love to know how it is

that Wayne Catalano became involved in horse racing.

Well, I was a young boy growing up in New Orleans.

I didn't know nothing about the racetrack.

I was it from the area where they come up, grow up, you know,

on the track at Lafayette and you know, the racing town.

And I was just a city boy. I'm not doing real well in

school. So my uncle links it to my, my

mother said, why don't you take him to the racetrack, be a

jockey. Me and my brother were both

small, so I know a fellow named Jack Bamberg.

So we went to the race track and I wasn't quite old enough.

My brother was be 16. I wasn't quite there yet.

They don't let you work until you're 16, you know, and get a

permit. But anyway, the following year I

turned 16 and we end up going with Jack Bamberg.

And I was so fortunate to have such a great teacher to teach

me, you know, horsemanship and, you know, come up walking horses

and grooming horses and galloping horses and schedule

farming and stuff like that and becoming a jockey.

So I was a Jackie before I was a trainer.

I was very fortunate to have such a great teacher like Jack

Van Berg. Talk a little bit about Jack.

I'm actually this is this is part of the story that I'm

fascinated by. I'm always amazed, Wayne, when I

I meet Eric, get to talk to people like you, just how much

the influence of someone like a Jack Van Berg, because frankly,

you know, in a weird way you have this in common, believe it

or not, with Rafa Bajirano, who wanted to be a basketball player

forever. And someone said, hey, man, get

over to the track and try this jockey thing.

But a guy like Jack Van Berg, talk about him, what you learned

from him, you know, just the the idiosyncratic, the unique things

that come with horse racing. What did you learn from Jack?

Well, Jack taught you how to work.

Dedicated worker, you know. You had to work hard with Jack

and you did everything. You know, we, we started off

walking horses and, you know, grooming horses and learn to

take care of them. And he taught you horsemanship

and he taught you work ethic and he was very strict about all

that and, and the hard work. Is that where we got it all from

Jack? He brought up a lot of great

horsemen. You know, I was with Frankie

Brothers and Billy Martin, you know, Lauren Rotelli.

We grew up with them kind of guys learning the trade and have

a guy like Jack Bamberg who was considered one of the greatest

horsemen of all time. You know, Jack is like, he's

phenomenal teacher and you know he was, he was a great, great

horse trainer. He had five thousand wins in his

career. You're at 3000.

Do you do you think of Jack when you go over the 3000 mark?

Like man, this is something that he would really love.

Yeah, Jack, I think he had more than that.

I'm not, I'm not sure how many he had, but did those milestones

was very, very satisfying. And you know, knowing that Jack

was my mentor and teacher and all that stuff, and when he was

still alive, I was winning races and I won training titles and

titles that I won that Jack held.

And you know, breaking Jack Bambury's win records and the

most training titles that I wanted to talk was, you know,

it's like it was crazy when I was a jockey, I won the Jack

Bambury Memorial and stuff like that.

So it was great. You're right, by the way, I

misspoke. He's the 1st to win 5000 in

North America. I should have is what I should

have said about, about Jack's record there.

Wayne Catalano with us Horse trader.

Obviously, you know, you come up in Louisiana and I'm, I'm, I'm

interested in this. You know, the sports always

changing. All of our sports on the

national landscape change over time.

You know, there used to be 4 baseball teams in New York.

Now we don't have 4 baseball teams in New York.

Things move around. But the Louisiana thing, there's

so many great horsemen that have come out of Louisiana yourself.

Obviously, you know Corey Lannery aboard a bunch of these

horses for you as well, how healthy is horse racing in

Louisiana? Are we still getting great

horsemen and horse people out of the great state of Louisiana?

I would say so. I don't, I don't know how they

are at the moment, but yes, they, you know, they come from

Louisiana's got a lot of horsemen that come out of there,

jockey specifically trainers like Tom Amos and stall Al stall

is all New Orleans boys. You know, they come out of New

Orleans, but the Lafayette area or wherever they come back in

that neck of the woods where they grow up, you know, 5-6,

seven years old, riding on horses and everything.

So they come on this. It's a long tradition of a mom

coming out in Louisiana, you know, Eddie de la Hozine, all

these jockeys that came out, you know, Ray Broussard, there's a

lot of great jockeys. Shane Sellers, You can just go

on and on. Greg Perette, bunch of them,

yeah. Calvin, right?

Right. A lot of homes, yeah.

Calvin Barrel 3 derbies. They got a bunch of them come

from Louisiana. I don't know.

OK, I was just. Going to ask you if you had a if

you had a thought about why. But it is it is interesting in

our sport, we do seem to have these spots that that are such

hotbeds for talent for, for just being around horses.

You know, Wayne, I'm always struck when I meet people, for

example, from from West Virginia, for example, just how

deep that horse culture is. It kind of reminds me how people

talk about Louisiana. Yes, it's it's.

They have a long list of them, Yeah.

Yeah, Wayne Catalano with us. So I remember Wayne, when I was

a younger man and I didn't have kids yet, I used to think I was

busy. And then I had kids and I found

out I hadn't been busy at all. When you were a jockey, did you

think you were busy and then you became a trainer and realized

you hadn't been busy? Or was jock life just as busy as

trainer life? No, Jockey Wise is not quite as

busy as a trainer's life, but it was great.

I had a great time. You know, I was very fortunate

to get the opportunity to be a jockey and ride the horses and,

you know, win the races that we won.

And, you know, once again Jack Bamberg came into play.

I rode a lot of his horses and he run a lot of live horses, so

he had chances to win. You know, they got a lot of

great jockeys and trainers and all that along the way, but they

don't get the opportunity but and they don't write that good

horsemen and good jockeys. But, you know, always tease with

these guys about us. This is horse racing, jockey

racing. You can go them all the time,

but that's true horses and you get the opportunity.

You know, just like everything in life, you got to get an

opportunity to show your talent. What do you think you learned

being a jock that you've translated to your training

career? Well, you know, once again, Jack

member comes into play. I had such a great teaching.

You know, when you're a jockey, you're at races, you go home.

When you're a member, you're a jockey.

You don't go home. You go back to the barn.

You go to work and you go to learn.

And, you know, you follow everything that goes on around

the barn. And so I translated from jockey

to trainer by, you know, being around after riding the races, I

would have to work. And Jack made you come back in

the morning and do the things that you needed to do.

And, you know, it made it an easy translation.

But Jackie, and, you know, you're riding in the morning and

you're riding the afternoon. And when, you know, that's about

what you do, not everybody comes up, you know, being hot walking

and groom. You know, they go to jockey

school and whatever the age they are out of the country, they got

a little jockey school and all. So they get a, you know, get a

leg up doing it that way. A lot of them teaching them from

the ground up, but not so often. You mentioned, you mentioned the

horses and it's horse racing, not jockey racing.

I always ask trainers this question.

So I'm really lucky. Why?

And I get to do a general sports show here at ESPN Louisville

five days a week and I get to talk football and basketball and

baseball and all those kinds of sports.

And when I when I interview coaches, I always ask is it X's

and O's or is it jimmies and joes?

And I'm sure you know the answer.

It's always jimmies and joes. If you don't have players, it

doesn't matter. Horse racing your training

methods the jockey is that more important or is the horse more

important? Well, I don't have to say.

The truth of the matter is it's horses.

You have to have the horse to work with your chapters to get

them, develop them, and then they got to have the talent.

You know, you get the best out of them and you keep the ones

going. It's a key, you know.

But they got the talent to get it out of them and to teach them

and, you know, have the right people breaking them and sending

them to you. And kind of like why they all go

with the pedigree and the fails and all that.

They go by complimation and pedigree well.

Then the horses guys still got to run.

You've had a bunch of great ones, 49 graded stakes in your

career. I'll ask a fun one first.

How often do you have someone come up and say, hey, I used to

bet a lot on Stephanie's kitten because I know of Stephanie?

Right. Stephanie's great.

Yeah, We were faulting up and training her.

She was a great horse. She won the Breeders Cup for me.

She was like my third Breeders' Cup on it and she was very nice

and she went on to do even greater things, you know, so

that was a very special horse. Aloha West in your in your barn

as well. At one point a Breeders' Cup

winner, a horse that helped me out with a lot of tickets,

believe it or not. How cool was Aloha West?

Aloha W is unbelievable. He's very fast, very talented

horse. We really liked him from the

start. Before I had him, he was one of

Baptist 2 year olds and he thought it was the best one he's

had coming up. And then he got sidelined and

then he, I wound up with him. So when he won and everything,

he actually, oh, you get that horse, He said.

I thought he was the best horse I had in my barn.

So when he proved to be a really good horse, yeah.

That's awesome. Wade Catalano with us going

through some of your other horses, dreaming of Anna of

course Ran and of course that. Was the first, yeah, first

Breeders' Cup winner for me, Churchill Mountain.

He was very special horseman, the first Breeders' Cup winner

and I went on the dirt when she was a grass horse.

You know, we had a Steve Levine racing manager from Frank

Calabrese. He was training her and she was

at that time they didn't have grass races for Phillies on the

in the Breeders Cup. So he said we can only run on

one dime and the only dime we can run on would be the Breeders

Cup race. So I was lucky enough to just

wait and train and train her up to that race without no preps on

the dirt. I was getting a fitness from the

and then these people and they said bombs and all that.

How you got to say that you never run away.

You know, we didn't want to get no races, but that one on the

dirt and she she came through for us on the dirt.

She was unbelievable. I'll put you on the spot.

Do you remember your jockey that day?

Yes, Renee Douglas. How about that?

There it is. You traitors, man, these, these

steel traps of braids. I don't know how you guys do it.

I remember my first win in May 20th 1974, Churchill Downs on a

horse called Hellfire. It was just recently, 50 years

ago. Lego.

Man, oh man, my. First win was a jockey was a

Churchill Downs, May 20th, 1974. With dreaming of Anna, she

breaks her maiden Preakness weekend at Arlington Park in

2006. Did you know she was special

that day? I knew she was special when she

was training. She was training very special.

She was breezes like lights out and she was very smart Philly.

Very, very smart, Philly. What can you can you describe to

the audience? I've always wanted to ask this

question. I hear this from trainers.

I hear this from jocks. Oh, this is a smart horse.

This is a, you know, an adaptive horse, whatever it might be.

What makes a horse smart? What let's use Dreaming of Anna

for, for instance, is it her ability to know, hey, now, it's

not time to go all out yet, is it?

Hey, in training, you know, we want you to do that.

What is it about a dreaming of Anna, for example, that makes

her a smart Philly? Well, she, she was kind of like,

you know, they knew what to do. They took it all in stride, you

know, on cue when you actually do things.

She would do them. You know, she was very, very

nice, Philly, very talented, very smart, and she would do the

things that you wanted the horse to do.

You know, they laid back and they do all the right things.

You know, some of them a little hard to get in, to get in

control and to have them do what you want to do and have them

rate like you want on the rate. You know, they just on the run.

So they just run because the other horse is running.

So they learn how to run the key, they don't know what

they're doing and they see one horse running the elders running

packs. So they take off until they

learn the competitors and learn how to race right.

That's what it's about. So mother's smarter and learn it

real bike. I wake at a lot of with us.

Your win comes at Ellis Park. You mentioned your first win

being at Churchill Downs. You're a Louisiana guy, but

you've adopted Kentucky as your home.

The Kentucky circuit itself, the changes, the infusion of money,

etcetera. What do you think of our

circuit? Our, our, our cool circuit that

we got going here in, in Kentucky between Ellis and

Kentucky Downs and and Churchill and Keeneland and and Turfway of

course. What do you think of our our

circuit here? Circuit is great.

It's horse country, you know, we all know that it's horse country

and I love it. The well, we we all about

horses. You know, when you're in the

horse engine, you're trainer or jockey or you're in the horses

or beat or whatever you may be is Kentucky and everything that

comes up to Kentucky, Kentucky, everybody knows what that is.

You know, it's it's a horse racing capital of the world.

So we we here and now we was in Chicago and Chicago all went S

on us. So we ended up here in Kentucky.

I'm outside in my yard right now.

I got a handful of horses here. I got 2 low high bus babies

right here right now. Looking at them as we talk

outside, they're beautiful. I like that.

Two low high W babies on the ground I.

Like that a lot? Your legs, how old are they?

They're Wheeling, OH. How about that?

Babies. Babies.

All right, I like that. Yeah, there we.

Go. Yeah, Fantastic.

Oh, man. Well, good.

We got something to look forward to.

I like hearing that, man. I like hearing that Aloha W is

at the breeding barn. That's good stuff.

He's a great horse, man. That'd be a lot of fun.

What's what's the future, man? What?

How much hogger you want to keep doing this?

3000 wins, a lot of wins. 15,000 starters.

You were a jock before that, by the way, Has anyone ever gotten

to the thousand wins as a jock, 3000 as a trainer?

I I can't find it. No, I think we got 3000 wins and

we got 17192 as a jockey. I think Mr. Rodachovic has got

3000 something, 1100 and wins as a jockey.

I don't know. I don't know where the rest of

them come at. I don't really know.

I didn't get it. I guess they're going to search

that up, but I don't know. I don't know.

I might be on the top. I think you are.

And how much, how much longer you want to keep doing this,

man, because you're you're in a good group here.

What do you want for your last six?

I mean, it's not like your horses aren't showing up.

They're doing great. No, well, we got, we got a

little shot in on, we got some horses duration.

We got a couple of good ones. We've got a couple of young

horses coming up. Then they say they're trying to

get some good two year olds coming up in the ball and they

ain't retiring, retire with two year horses in the ball and that

look like they got some talent. We got a girl and baby out of

barrel. He's training nice, very nice,

so we're thinking he might be something.

We've run a couple of young ones in the last couple of days that

we thought had some talent. So we have a few horses coming

up. Plus you got these Aloha W

babies now, right? I mean, you can't go anywhere.

Yet I'm looking at them right here.

What is that like by the way, to to train the the progeny of a

horse that you've trained previously, Either, you know,

the, the on the mare side or on the on the stud side?

Like is there, do you notice patterns amongst the babies?

You know, you talked about these, you know, smart horses,

intelligent horses, you know, the ones that figure it out.

Do you do you find the minds on top of the physical

characteristics travel from dad to to progeny?

Oh, yeah, they all, they all do. That's the whole idea about this

breeding stuff. You know, they get, they got

their Mama and their daddies or whatever Trent they may have.

It's it's there for sure. The only thing is only

difference between us there when you're getting them babies that

you trained before means you're getting older.

Wade Catalano with us. Do you have a favorite race that

you've won in your career of the 3000 that you have so far?

You know what, all of them are really special because the wins,

the win, it's hard to get them. You know when you talk about

Breeders' Cup, when the first coming around, the big races by

by by, the whole 9 yards are going with the Breeds Cup, my

first Breeders' Cup and my last and everything in between is

great because the last one was special because we didn't have a

lot of opportunities. Like I said, it's horse racing.

We didn't have the horses at the time.

And you know Mr. Aaron Wellman, he put thoroughbred in the

opportunity with a horse called Aloha West.

And when that Breeders' Cup was very special, you know, when we

didn't have all, you know, we don't have no horses.

It's like that caliber. So I had a feeling in between

them, you know, my last Breeders' Cup went.

What's your thought? Let me remember what it was.

It might have been 20/20/2009 Twenty.

Well, I don't know what it was 11/20/11.

I think it won three Breeders Cups in the last five years.

So I think it was like, yeah, 26 to 2011, something like that.

I'm not sure. Well.

There you go. Well, these trainer Wayne

Catalano. Wayne, congratulations on three

thousand wins. Thanks for spending some time

with us here on the Spotlight Show.

And I'm sure I'll either see you at Ellis or Kentucky Downs.

So you do win the Kentucky Downs thing this year.

I am, I am Kentucky Downs, a special place we had.

We got to train his title as Kentucky Downs was a nice

trophy. We had a very special race

there. We had an unbelievable meet, my

son-in-law Roach on Wednesday. We won tongue races in five

days. Was kind of a record at the

time. Five day meet, we won 10 races.

It's a special. Kentucky Downs are very special

to me. I like it a lot.

Well, there you go. Well, I'll see you down there,

Wayne. Be well and congratulations on

3000. Thank you so much.

Appreciate it. Nice talking to.

You, hey, good to talk to you. Wayne Catalano.

There you go, trainer. 3000 wins there, 1700 as a jock, hard to

beat. With that, we'll take a break

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Dandy and a couple of races down at Ellis Park.

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Alright, welcome back in. This is the final segment on the

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that make Kentucky racing go. Speaking of Kentucky racing, we

welcome in a man from Tennessee. His name is Danny Brewer.

He's a fellow inductee into the Turf Writers, The same class at

all of those things. I got in on the first try.

What says Danny Brewer? Did you get in on the first try?

No, I didn't, but because see what is I wrote in on Louise

Coattails. I said, hey man, I know Louie.

And they said, bam, you're in. Bob done?

Yeah, that Louis guy, he's getting everybody all kinds of

good stuff. So let's talk about a couple

different races this weekend. We'll head W 2nd here, Danny,

for the one Breeders' Cup winning in this weekend in the

Bing Crosby fun field. You pointed it out to me.

Nice 9 Forest Field for that one out at Del Marble.

We'll go to Saratoga first for the Jim Dandy.

You know, I was able to take in the Haskell last weekend.

We saw Dora get it done again. Danny, do you have an opinion on

him? A thought on him?

I just love that horse. Just never.

Wits is willing to do the work down the stretch.

You know, I think that Dornock has earned a lot of respect from

me. He's I haven't cashed a ticket

on him. I was on early when he when he

ran in Florida, I thought, man, this guy, maybe he's OK.

And then, you know, he kind of, he didn't break well the

Kentucky Derby, he got pushed back early.

I thought, well, I don't know about him, but the last two

outings for him has been tremendous.

And and you know, I've got a lot the Belmont shakes my goodness.

And then the Haskell. He looked like he was beaten,

but he refused to lose. So I've got I've got some new

found respect for door knock hard knocking horse tries hard

every time. Son of good magic.

You know, he he's a lot better than I thought he was.

I can say that right now. Yeah, he's a fantastic runner.

It is fun. Once in a while those horses

come along, Danny, that just like you said, they refuse to

lose. They get in the stretch, they

realize another horse is coming and they just want to be out

front, stay out front. I love a horse that runs like

that. We get a gym dandy here.

Obviously. The last prep for the Traverse

Stakes with with two alums of the Kentucky Derby plus sees the

Grade the Preakness winner here, the Ohio Derby Top 2 Pony

Express making the trip from the West Coast for John Sadler.

How do you grade this field? It's a grade two.

This feels like about a Grade 2 field to me.

Yes, I think so. I mean, when you think about

Sierra Leone, he's the one a lot of people consider to be the

class of a three-year old field, even though he hasn't won one of

the Triple Crown races. You know, he he ran good in the

Derby, Belmont Stakes. Was he just was too far back.

He had he left himself too much to do and your boy door not you

know, he just want he just refused to lose.

I think that fierceness. I'm not sure how good he is.

I think that he really turned in a great race in the Breeders Cup

last year that we saw. I think he was fantastic in the

Florida Derby. I'm not sure how good he is

because in the Kentucky Derby he kind of was in a really good

spot and he just couldn't get it done.

So I'm not sure the the jury's out on fiercest for me on him.

But but still, I think he's quality no doubt.

Yeah, let's go horse by horse here.

There's only six to go through here in this Jim Dandy field.

You mentioned Sierra Leone probably and I agree with you by

the way, but probably the most talented runner of any of the

runners in this three-year old group doesn't seem to have the

the winning instinct of a door knock.

For example, does want to do his best running late, a shorten up

in distance. Here he has one at the distance

twice, which is interesting. I wonder, Danny, in that case

sometimes if it actually just puts it in the jockeys head.

Hey, I got to go earlier than waiting a mile and a quarter

like I did in the Belmont or in the Kentucky Derby.

What do you think of his chances this weekend on a Saturday?

Do you include him in your tickets?

I think so because he's never been out of the top three in his

career. And here's here's how I think

that this race can play out and I'm jumping ahead a little bit,

but I think I think that there's going to be some good front end

speed. Cesar Gray wants to go.

Pierce just wants to go. I think Pierce just wants to

take him gate to wire. You know, batten down.

He did take him gate to wire in the Ohio Derby.

So I think that you've got three horses that want to be out

front. So that means contentious pace

and that would set it up perfectly for Sierra Leone.

But I think you're absolutely right, Louis.

He needs to be closer to the pace, he does not need to be too

far back. Yeah, that's right.

I think that he is frankly, what's notable about this field,

Danny, is that he is the only closer.

We talk about loan speed so often in these two turn races in

horse racing that we we lose sight of sometimes we just get a

loan closer. So this might be Sierra Leone's

race to lose, frankly, because everyone else is going to want

either to be on the pace or right off of it.

I think you're right. Sees the Gray fierceness.

They're going to want to be up front.

They're going to want to wire this field.

You get battened out, he does his best running out front,

including last out in the Ohio Derby.

Pony Express, same thing he's out there in at Santa Anita.

His last three runs seems to be a horse that likes to be

pressing. And so it might be Sierra Leone

who inherits just a frenetic pace up front and is able to

pick off horses. One of those Triple Crown

winners is Sees the Gray. He's in here.

The two horse gets 5 weeks off after the Belmont, his first

real break. If I say five weeks, it's

actually about six weeks now since the Belmont.

Did you have you liked him at any point this year?

I feel like I'm the only person Daddy who likes sees the Gray at

any point this spring. No, actually he was my long shot

pick for the Preakness. And.

And I cashed a nice ticket on him in the Pat de Mile because

he's what he's just a hard runner.

I mean, he runs hard. Arrogate, his Pappy was one of

those horses who had a huge run he could put on.

I mean, he could just cover so much ground in such a short

period of time. And I don't know if Sees the

Great has the same qualities exactly as Arrogate did, but he

has that in his bloodlines. And so I think that he is a he's

a tough runner and I think he he's one that can go.

So no, I think he's he's absolutely got a real shot in

this race. Yeah, it's interesting, you

know, especially if if fierceness who's also going to

want the lead here just isn't up to the task.

Again, for some reason. It might be sees the Gray that

inherits the lead just by being the fastest horse in this group.

At very worst, I think Daddy, he'll be very close to the front

like he was in the Pat de Mile. And so this might be a race

where we see him revert to the tactics that he had in that Pat

de mile where he's just kind of off the pace and tries to figure

it out at the end. Before that, of course, he tried

the same thing in the Jeff Ruby Stakes.

I just think that wasn't the surface for him.

But no, no excuses, man. He's won a grade 2, won a grade

one back-to-back, had a mile Preakness over that two week

stretch. Are you worried about his

fitness at all or do you think the six weeks off might help?

I think the six weeks off will will help him.

I think because he ran a lot of races in a short period of time

because he ran the Jeff Ruby, but then he turned right around

and he was in the Bluegrass Stakes at Keeneland.

So then and then he come back in the Pat Day Mile and then he

came back in the Preakness. So he had a big group of races

right there in a very short period of time.

So I think the six weeks off will be good for him.

I think Wayne Lukes will have him ready.

Seize the Gray Lookout for him. You mentioned him, a son of

Airgate already made $1.8 million in his career.

Very, very good chance to go over the 2 million mark this

weekend in the half million dollar.

Jim Dandy, that's the race we're discussing here on the Kentucky

Racing Spotlight, He's Danny Brewer.

I'm Louie Rabot. Thanks for making us part of

your horse racing Friday. Batten down.

I think it became the smart choice.

A lot of money flood. It flooded in on him late ahead

of the Ohio Derby. Last out of Thistle down there

just outside of Cleveland. Danny Junior Alvarado keeps them

out here for Bill Mott. Do you like his chances here?

Yeah, I think, I think that in, in this short of the field, I

think they've all got a shot. Realistically, they've of course

we know that any horse that gets in the game has a shot.

But no, I think that Batten Down does because he seems to be a

horse who's coming at the right time.

And he ran very strong in the in the Ohio Derby.

And you're like I said, I liked his Ohio Derby.

He he, he looked really good. I worry about him only because I

think the pace is going to be considerably faster than what

he's been used to now. That Ohio Derby started quick,

but it ended very, very slow. It's so I think he's going to be

hoping for something similar there, but I worry about him

only because I do think he's a need the lead kind of horse.

If he doesn't get that, he seems to not want to get dirt kicked

in his face. And I think there are two horses

in this field that are just simply faster than he is.

Between Seize the Grey and Fierceness.

I worry about batting down for that purpose.

But who am I to bet against Bill Mott and the Son of I don't

know. That's a very good tack for me.

You're absolutely right, but I think that class is definitely a

factor here and and he has not been against the class of horses

of fierceness and sees the Gray. He did beat Gould's Gold, Copper

Tax and of course, catching Freedom in that Ohio Derby.

Pony expresses the four horse here.

John Sadler. Joe El Rosario going to team up

on this one. He's been under better wrist

bully for all of his runs to this point.

Stretched him out last time to a mile and a 16th.

Breaks his maiden at Santa Anita.

Shipping him in for this one. Danny, do you ever try to glean

what it is that a trainer intends or thinks by them

shipping to very specific spots? Of course I do.

You know, I think every horse player does.

You know, I, you know, I don't know John Sadler really well.

I've dealt with him a few times. But this is kind of interesting,

you know, because some of the guys ship just because they want

to run. Some of the guys only ship if

they think they can win, you know, and I don't know what

Sadler's mentality is when it comes to this kind of thing, but

but this is a very interesting ship when you think about Pony

Express because what, he's won a maiden race and that's it.

I mean, he's never, he's never been in a safe company, has he?

He is not, and frankly, he wasn't even competitive in his

first two races. Right.

So, so it's one of those deals where, you know, you kind of

wonder, I don't know this is this is very interesting, very

interesting. You know, I would say this, I

it's he's a son of Gun Runner as a Sierra Leone Gun runner did

all of his best running, you know, second-half of his

three-year old season on right, that kind of stuff.

I wonder if we're seeing some of that development with some of

his progeny. In this case, you know, Gun

runner, cold, quiet American mare with Pony Express.

Maybe the lights just went on and John Sadler saw on this

horse, hey, he figured out how to win.

He figured out how to be out front and win a race.

Maybe that's the spot. The other part of this, Danny

and I've talked about all this a lot on this show is the purses

east of the Rockies are just better than those West of the

Rockies. They just are right now.

And until there's an adjustment in Southern California to keep

up with some of that stuff, how many opportunities does a

three-year old have to run and restricted 3 year old company

for a half million bucks West of the Rockies?

It almost doesn't exist. And so I do wonder once in a

while if it's not worth it to just ship a Pony Express it try

to hit, I don't know the board at all and get a really good,

you know, type of choice. 12% of this of this of this purse if

you run third, you know, and so there's there's a significant

amount of money in here. And maybe he just saw the light

come on for Pony Express. Last out.

Joel Rosario, as I mentioned, gets the amount.

Maybe the son of gun Runner could start his second-half of

the year off with a bang Gold's gold brand second in that Ohio

Derby behind bat and down a really fair 15 to one price on

this Mcpeak Mcpeak Hernandez combination.

Bet against these two at your own, at your own peril here,

Daddy. This is this is my pick.

You know, here's the thing. You know, of course I rode those

two to to Kentucky Derby glory as far as Mcpeak and Hernandez

junior. But the thing about it is when

we think about all the big three-year old races, I don't

think a favorite has won a single time.

Not a single time is a favorite one any of the big three-year

old races. So you know, I think that you go

against Sierra Leone and you go against fierce this here.

And who do I land on? I land on Gould's gold 15 to

one. Thank you.

I'll take it. You know, it's fascinating, too.

And we've seen this as a trend for Kenny Mcpeak, especially

this year. Why is Dan, you know, or why is

Dan, good Lord Mystic Dan, a different Dan, if you will?

Mystic Dan, bred for 10 grand. He's got torpedo Anna.

She's so popular that he had to set up a way for people to come

visit that horse. Danny, I'm sure you saw that

story. You know, let's take a hard

detour there. How cool is it that Kenny Mcpeak

is making that Philly available for people to visit?

That's what he's trying to breed the sport.

You know, the thing about Kenny is he's a fantastic ambassador

for this game. He.

Has done a lot of things to help the game and that's one of those

things that helps the game because it gives folks that warm

fuzzy when I think, whoa, I went up headed torpedo Anna and it's

like you have a connection to the horse and then you know, you

want to watch her every time she runs or anytime any of her

competition runs. You want to see, well, what are

they doing? So it gets people connected to

the game, which is what we want. Torpedo Anna, would you run her

against the boys or not? We talked about it in the first

segment of the show. I have said this since the

Kentucky, since after the Kentucky Derby.

Torpedo Anna is the best 3 year old in the country, period.

I think that she can beat any of these boys on any given day,

probably at any distance. The way she has ran, she has

been magnificent and you know, there has not been any kind of

stand out in the three-year old division whatsoever.

There has been nobody who's really put together a string of

fantastic performances. You know, I think Muth may be

the one and of course we haven't seen him.

We probably won't see him till, you know, he may be in the

traverse. He may just go right to the the

older. I talked to Bob Baffert earlier

this week and he may just go on and we Pennsylvania Derby's an

option for him, but he may think about the class for something

like that too. But other than Muth, I'm not

sure. And then we don't know about

Moose because he's he's he hasn't ran that much.

So I think yes, I think Thor beat this long winded answer to

your question. Yes, I would run against any of

them. Danny Brewer with us here on the

Kentucky Racing Spotlight. We are presented by the Kentucky

HBPA. Louis Ribbo with you as I always

am. Fierceness rounds up the field

on the outside in the 6th hole. I, I, I know you're playing

against him. Can you tell people why?

Because I, I, there's too many question marks, you know, I, I

don't think his performances have been consistent enough, if

you will. You know, I, I think that, you

know, obviously, like I said, great.

He, he, he looked great in the Breeders Cup last year.

Well, then when he came back, his comeback race and not so

good, that was when Hades got the better of him.

Then, you know, he cut Florida Derby.

Hey, looks great. Kentucky Derby.

He had things his own way. He had every opportunity to win

the Kentucky Derby and he didn't do it.

Now the Kentucky Derby is the toughest race to win in the

whole world, but I'm just not so sure that he's as good as people

thought he was. Maybe I'm wrong.

I I would say the, the bump for him here is that he's in every

other type. Wins his first race, wins his

third race, wins his fifth race. This is his seventh race

following the Derby. You know, something we do, Danny

that I think we all say we're not going to do is hold the

Derby against horses. I think with Fiercest we'll hold

the Derby against him. I think you're absolutely right

about that and, and I may be guilty of that.

I think he's very quality. I think he can be top three.

I just don't, you know, of course it's a six horse field.

You know, it's so much easier when you talk about these

smaller fields, but you know it outside post.

He's got a great draw, he's got a great trainer, he's got a

great jockey. You know, he, you may be right.

I I think that he'll be there. I just don't know that he wins.

Danny Brewer with us. Let's head W to Del Mar.

We'll be there in November, obviously for the Breeders Cup.

6 fur longer here in the grade one Bing Crosby $400,000 on the

line. And maybe just as importantly in

the Breeders Cup Sprint, which will also be at Del Mar.

A cool horse in here, Danny named the chosen Ron.

He's a cow bred bread for Speaking of $5000 breeding jobs

for 3500 bucks. And this horse has gone on 4 for

four this year, 18 for 23 lifetime.

Dandy. Do you have a horse horse like

this that as a fan you just love?

I made the joke of of mentioning Wise Dan instead of Mystic Dan.

Obviously he's that kind of horse for people.

Do you have a horse like this that just seem to to come from

nowhere and be a just a just a winner?

We are the chosen Bron is he's he's been in my NTRA poll every

week. You know, actually I had him

number one for a while there until National treasure and then

Torpedo. I have done what they've done.

But I think the chosen Bron is one of those horses.

You know, why is Dan? Why is Dan's my favorite horse

of all time? For for several reasons.

But anyway, that the chosen Bron, I think he's just one of

the he's a winning machine. The guy that wins now, yes, he's

ran in a bunch of cowbread stakes, but he wins.

You know, you think about winning.

I think he's won like 11 of 12 or 12 of 13.

When you think about winning at at any level in this game, that

type of consistency, it just doesn't exist.

Ten of his last 11 The loss in the Breeders Cup, right?

There he just, he just didn't do.

He couldn't close in quick enough.

That's right under Hector Barrios.

He'll get the mount again, I think.

Some other interesting shooters in here.

The very lightly race. Jackstown is in here for Bob

Baffert, 2 for two Lifetime came off the bench in the middle of

June and an optional claimer and looked absolutely sharp.

He'll be on the outside. Happy Jack is in here for Doug

O'Neill. If you're just looking at speed

ratings, he jumps off the page but lost the chosen rod last

time out. Where did you lay it in this

one? You know, I I've got a I've got

a superfecta. You know, it's hard.

It's hard to say. It's hard to pick one horse for

me in this one. I think the chosen bronze

winning machine. Happy Jack.

I love him. Jack's town, the post draw.

That's what's the key for him insanely fast.

His workouts lately have been off the page is totally, totally

sizzling. Baffert loves that outside draw.

So I like Jack's town too. I think anarchist is one that

you can't overlook because I mean, he's like only been in the

the the top two like 10 out of 13 times, you know, So I mean

this. What about close the game Sugar

coming from Churchill Downs? What about that horse?

I mean, you know, we saw him win when we were there on a foster

day. So I mean, the the field is

flat, loaded straight, no chaser, you know, roll on Big

Joe's 1-2 in a row. You know, I mean, it just you

can go on and on with this race. It's very.

Here's what I want to know, Louis.

You're the guy who was smart enough to single get smoking

last week on Haskell. Had a good weekend.

I did, yes. You were the guy.

So you're the guy that I want to ask Louis, who are you landing

on in this race? I It is really difficult for me,

Danny. I am as a handicapper at least,

especially in dirt races. I'm obsessed with winners and

horses that can get to the finish line 1st.

And this is actually, I mean, the chosen Von carried 126 lbs

last out, ran a 1:09 and 1:00. I mean, he's just flying, dude.

He's he's just, he's hard to he's hard to get for me to get

past. But I'm going to try Jackstown

in this race. I think we're actually going to

get value on a bathroom. How about that?

It's so I think there's a chance we'll get 5 to 231 kind of

number on Jackstown by the time we get to post.

I don't think it's an accident. Then he's in here.

And I think they really do have legitimate Breeders' Cup

thoughts about this horse. So I'm going to try Jackstown

here. I think the chosen Ron is

obviously an include. The one horse that I really do

wonder if he'll fire again is Happy Jack. 5 year old horse,

son of Oxbow has won this year in the triple Bend.

Lost the Kona Gold before that. Never run a Del Mar before.

I think it's easy to look at his last two speed figures and get

obsessed with those. This horse is 3 for 13 lifetime,

right? And who did he run against in

that triple bend? I'm not sure that that was the

best field ever, so I'm going to try to beat Happy Jack in the

spot. That's essentially what I do

know, but you're right. For example, close the game,

sugar man. That's a fast horse.

Like a legitimately really fast horse.

Ran that 6 1/2 in 114 last out. It's 108 / 6 furlongs at

Churchill Downs. I mean, this is a loaded race.

You're totally right. Yeah, I, I, I think that that,

you know, when you the thing about close the game, sugar, can

you ship and win? You know that there's question,

you can have questions about all of them.

The chosen Braun, you know, I mean, he won this race last

year, but he's he's not been a lot in greater state's company.

I mean, like I said, you can't you've got question marks about

all of them, but that holds true in any race that that you go

through. But I think that that you're

right about happy Jack. I don't necessarily know that

he's going to win, but I think he might could be there.

Doug O'Neill's gotten off to a great start, Delmar.

So and that, that's another thing I look for hot trainers

and hot and right now so far O'Neill has been really hot out

there in Delmar. Yeah, Doug O'Neill.

Like, I actually refer to Kenny Mcpeak as Doug O'Neill east of

the Rockies, but I guess that's fair to say He's Kenny Mcpeak

West of the Rockies. Just, hey, got a good white on

us and I'll run my horse and find out kind of attitude, which

I love it. A good trader.

His name is Dana Brewer. How do people find your stuff?

You can catch me at horseracingscoop.com.

I'm also on wnsradio.com, you know, I'm on Twitter, I'm on

Facebook, we've got Facebook pages, all that good stuff,

Friday mornings, handicapping spot on WGS radio.

So I'm out there. I'm an NTRA poll voter and I'm

also a member of the National Turf Riders Association.

Well, there you go is Danny Brewer joins us from just

outside of Nashville, TN Danny, really appreciate you joining us

here on the Kentucky Racing Spotlight.

King Louie, I'm honored. I appreciate it.

Wish you the best of luck all. Right.

Thanks, Danny. Have a good rest of the weekend

and we will wrap up the show there with Danny.

We appreciate him joining us here on the Kentucky Racing

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