Track Announcer Jason Beem joined Louie on Rabaut & Co.
More of a chat than a handicapping session.
Track Announcer Jason Beem joined Louie on Rabaut & Co.
More of a chat than a handicapping session.
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Arlington Million Saturday card. Excited to welcome back Jason
Beam to the show here. Jason, good morning.
How are you buddy? Yeah, yeah.
No discounts this weekend here, Lewis.
That's exactly right. No discounts down there.
Which, which weekend do you think will you know, this is
obviously you, you know, grade one, all the things.
But with the introduction of that Virginia Derby in the
spring, do you feel like you've got, you know, kind of bookends
to the season there at Colonial with those two weeks?
They probably do. I, I don't go to the spring one
because I'm down at Tampa. So I, I, I, I honestly didn't
watch it. It felt a little too FOMO for
me. Everybody said it was unreal.
Like as far as on track that I mean, it was sold out and you
know, they said it was great weather day, great atmosphere.
It's looking like we're going have a good weather day this
Sunday. So, you know, I'm obviously
very, very partial to this one because I'm involved in it.
Yeah, no, I think it should be a great day down there.
You know, you just reminded me. I I interviewed Travis Stone
right before the Arlington, before the Virginia Derby.
Excuse me? Yeah.
Yeah, He was trying to. He was like, yeah, I was working
on the sight lines and those kinds of things.
God, I totally forgot about that.
But this weekend, it's. It's, it's a tricky boost here
too. So he, he, he has to.
There it is, Jason B with us. He'll call the races at Colonial
this weekend at Bee Me Awards on Twitter.
You want to go find, if you're the one person that doesn't
follow him on Twitter, the the racing this weekend, a guy you
know you're at Tampa. You mentioned that you're there
in the spring and and the Hillsborough is the the grade 2
of record at Tampa. Then you get up to Colonial and
you call a grade one in the Arlington million.
Is there a different kind of pressure for you when you when
you see a card like this? Couple of grade twos and a grade
one in a row? You know, you know what's helped
the last couple of years, Yes, there is for sure.
I mean the millions like a historic race.
So it's yes, it's it's still a little weird because of, you
know, everything that went on that ended up bringing it here.
So that that that's for me personally a little bit of a
cloud on it. But what's helped me the last
couple years is generally by the secretariat is where I'm like
the most nervous. And by after that, like my
adrenal glands are empty. So like the last, the last two
years, once the million rolls around, like I'm actually
relatively calm. So I'm hoping that that happens
again. The first year we had 12 in the
million and it was somebody in management's idea to have same
color saddle towels. And so yeah, so that was I, I
protested that from the high hills and luckily it's not the
case anymore. But that, that I was really,
really, that was that was a challenge because I, I realized
you don't look at the saddle towel so much during the races.
You do kind of double check with them.
And I remember when set piece hit the wire, I felt so good
about the call. And then I had this momentary
panic of going that was the three right?
And I, and I couldn't check because it wasn't blue.
And so I had to wait till they were literally on the
backstretch where I could see the actual number displayed.
Oh, man. Yeah.
Set piece. What a name, man.
Yeah, Jason being with us from down there, Collodial Downs,
Arlington Million on Saturday. I wanted to ask you about the
the old all all graded stakes Pick 3 here.
That Secretariat kicks it off at race 9A mile on the turf for
three-year olds. And this is frankly unusual in
that it is so many North American based runners.
We're not really getting anyone from overseas for this one.
Does anyone stand out to you in this field itself?
No, I, I think from what I've been told is for the
international runners, it's a little trickier to get here,
whether it's quarantine or whatever it is.
I think Chicago, they kind of have the the setup for all that.
And so we are seeing a shipper for the million, but not as much
for some of the under races. I, I know dream on the favor.
I don't have my PPS in front of me.
I just got to work here. But Giacoso was kind of the one
that that I was finding a little bit interesting at first scan
just because I don't think dream on like that far ahead of
everybody. And and if he is going to be
favored and going to be a lowish price, I just, I just don't want
to take a horse that thinks on level ability and getting a
lower price than maybe some of the other ones.
And so Giacoso was kind of the early one that was that I was
finding interesting we saw. Giacoso, of course, on Derby Day
in the American turf, ran a good fifth behind Zulu Kingdom and Co
in that one. Maui Strong's in that race
coming in from Saratoga, 4th place finish in the Manila.
I'm trying to remember, is it this race that has someone
coming in for a different race coming in for the West Coast?
But yeah, dream on just out of that pen mile, that yielding
course that day. They don't they always seem now,
unfortunately, the turf monster, whatever, like all those races
there with up at Penn Mile and all those races in Pennsylvania
seem to be getting waterlogged on the turf these days.
I just, I, how do you think you're going to try to handicap
that go from a yielding course to what you guys will have on
Saturday? Well, and right now it's a good
question because it's raining as we speak and it it's supposed
to, yeah. So, so I'm very unsure of what
our turf is going to be on or good today.
We're supposed to hear the track condition here in the next like
10 minutes, I guess. But I know there's a little rain
forecasted tomorrow and then it shouldn't be much, if any Friday
and then Saturday is supposed to be good.
So it should be fast and firm. But you know, not all firms are
created the same and they're, they're very well could be a
little bit. I think what's going to help
this course this week is it looks like the rain's all kind
of just like it is right now where it's just kind of a steady
shower. This course drains exceptionally
well. And we saw it earlier in the
meet where we had like I, I drove home on a Friday night and
it was an absolute day. Loose Thunder shower, you know,
East Coast style thunderstorm. And the next day it was dried
out. And by the third race it was
fast and firm. And so we do have that going for
us. But, you know, there will
certainly be some moisture in in the track as we go throughout
the week. As far as yeah, I guess it just
depends on it kind of how it goes because I, I, I tend to
think this course as a whole play so evenly fair.
Like we just don't see a whole lot of biases develop on the
turf. The dirt can be a little bit
more. The dirt's just really fast
here. It's not that it's speed
favoring, it's just really fast. And so it tends to lend to to
being closer. But we can see a lot of closers.
But the turf courses, I mean they really, really seem fair.
The other thing to watch for this week is the rails go back
down to 0 and I think 50 or 60 for the outer.
They haven't been down there since I think opening week.
So it's a lot of fresh ground at Tampa.
They do that too, and it tends to yield inside paths being
really, really good on, on big days, not necessarily speed, but
just inside path. And I'm, I'm curious to see how
that does here because, you know, they did it the first year
set piece circled the whole field and ran by nation's pride
was more close up and, and down the inside.
So we only have two millions to, to speak for.
So, but it'll be on the outer on the outer turf and it's a little
more of a sweeping turn. And so I don't, I don't think
ground loss is as meaningful in those, those outer turf races.
Kind of like you always hear about Belmont Park like that.
It's just not as strong of a, of a sharp turn.
And you know, you, you talked about the stakes pick 3, the two
races before the, the graded stakes are both turf sprints and
they're really good races there. I know I just found out a couple
horses ran at Ellis Sunday. So there's, I, I think a couple
of the logicals might not be in. So obviously stay tuned for
scratches, but one's on the inner and one's on the outer.
They're both at 5 1/2. And those are two very different
races. And so folks, you definitely
need to pay attention when it's in and outer because the inner
is a much sharper turn. And for the sprints, it's a
little bit more of a elongated run down the back stretch where
it's, you know, on the outer they, they kind of, they get to
the turn sooner, but it's a much more sweeping turn.
Is the inner turf course A7 for a long turf course and then
essentially just start right behind there for the one mile
for the secretary? Kind of yes.
It's it's, it's a little more than 7.
So often the mile races start just inside the 16th pole.
So it's more like A and some of that's rail setting.
So actually when the rails are 0, it'll probably start after.
So it's play, it's more like a 7 1/2.
And so yeah, it's yes. So that one, I, I believe that
again, I've been looking at 50 races this week.
But yeah, so the mile races, I don't think we've ever run
actually a mile on the outer. If they did, they did it once
and it was way too long of a run up.
So we we have started running some mile and sixteenths on the
outer, but for the most part the miles are always going to be on
the inner. Jason Beam with us.
He calls the races at Colonial Downs.
It is Arlington Millions Saturday down there this
weekend. The Beverly D is race 10, Jason
mile and three sixteenths. It's on the Philly and mare side
here. Half million bucks in this one.
What do we got to do to get a bigger field for this race?
Man, I feel like it's always coming up 6-7.
It's kind of thing. It always comes up with a small
field. Yeah, I that you're a good
question. I'm sure that everybody else.
Asking the same session, yeah. We get I don't know what it is,
but Philly races in general, like they just like you look at
the three-year old Philly, you know, stakes along the Oaks
trail and stuff. It's just always a sea of 5678
horse field. And I don't know if it's I don't
know that's that's the real the real answer.
And some of it too is like there's just so many top end,
you know, I mean, especially if I think more so for the
secretary Group, like there's a lot of like 3 year old
restricted turf mile stakes within a month and a half,
two-month period. That's true.
You know, in between between Delaware pen mile, you know,
here Saratoga, NY obviously has as a bunch.
And so you know, some of it I think is a little over
saturation and and you know, like I said, some of it might be
it's a little tougher to get here.
You know, it's a bit of a ship for for any of those kind of top
class horses that aren't based here.
I did hear be your best is going to run here versus Saratoga
where she was entered, so that that's good because she'll
probably be, you know, she's coming off a grade one win.
Probably one of the favorites. This race is obviously had even
with the small fields. We've had some incredible
horses, but the, you know, the gambler in me and and again,
what our customers I think certainly want bigger fields.
And you know, and I'm no different as a race caller, it's
more of a challenge to have a bigger field.
Some announcers will tell you it's like, oh, it's so much
harder when it's only 5%. That's bull crap.
It's way harder when there's 12. Yeah, of course.
Yeah, I think they say that to like make, I get what they're
saying because you do have to slow your rhythm down and and
stuff like that. But it is not harder to call a
six horse field than a 12. Horse.
Yeah, once in a while you've got it.
But you've. Got to make it sound
interesting, right? I mean, that's probably a
challenge in itself. That's just part of the job all
the time. Yeah, right.
Yeah. But yeah, you have to
editorialize more instead of with 12, you really have to kind
of work work just to to get through them.
And so I get what they're saying.
I always feel like that's one of those things where they're
trying to like sound, sound cool.
We get a couple coming out of the anchorage here at Churchill
Downs. You mentioned be your best
coming out of the gamely at Santa Anita.
I imagine you don't have a lot of data on Santa Anita shippers
to colonial on the turf course. But do you expect her to be just
say, do you expect her to be a a worthy favorite on Saturday?
Well, I think the, I mean, obviously she the be Your best
has kind of gone back and forth, right?
She's gone out there a few different times.
And so my guess is they really think she likes that course,
which when you win the game, you probably do.
I remember talking to Billy Koch once and he was saying he had a
horse Balnikoff, who's really good turf, you know, closer and
turf router and stuff, but he just hates Santa Anita.
So if you watch like they'll try to run them at Del Mar as much
as they can and then go and then they'll go to Pimlico in the
spring and stuff like that. So a lot of it's course
dependent sappy runs out here a little bit like we, I think he's
probably run 10 or 15 here this meet and he's done pretty good.
But yeah, I, I, I wouldn't worry about any of that too much.
The prevailing thought is that like, oh, the East Coast turfers
are usually better than the West Coast turfers.
I don't know. That'd be your best as a W
coaster. I think she just goes out like
Santa Anita, but she's run good east too.
I think Gulfstream and some other places.
And like you said, Churchill, you know, Churchill's turf
different than everybody, I feel.
Like, yeah, no, you're right about four years.
Yeah, that's why I was asking. Yeah.
There's four stakes wins since November for Be Your Best, all
of them in graded stakes, 2 grade threes, a grade 2 and a
grade one. Yeah, she's doing the third
thing right now, for sure. In the million itself, that'll
be race 11, a million bucks on the line, obviously mile and a
quarter. A little bit of a strange start
there in the gate at the at Colonial there, but it is on the
on the main turf course there. Mystic Dan's going to try the
turf for the first time here. I really like this spot for him.
Jason, do you agree? I think it's, it's good a spot
of any to try, especially at a high level.
I don't think it came up particularly tough this year.
I, I think it's competitive, which is, which is good, but you
know, the Mystic Dan will be the one that gets all the press, the
stories integration because he has never won a grade one.
He's been extraordinarily close and he's done really, really
good work at this turf course. Like there are a lot of stars
lining up for him to finally breakthrough and, and win that,
you know, that grade one race. But one of my big pet peeves is
you'll hear people saying like, oh, he deserves a great none of
it. Nobody deserves a Grade 1.
You got to go get a Grade 1. And I, I just don't think he's
going to find a better spot for all factors included for him to
do that. He's also going to, there should
be some pace for him to run into.
He should be sitting just off of it.
I, I don't, I don't think he's going to find a better grade one
spot, especially for 1,000,000 bucks.
Just kind of the way everything sets up from knowing that he
loves this course, knowing that, you know, he's run big on this
course. I mean, the program trading in
the Virginia Derby program trading was a great one winner
already. And so, and then our Virginia
Derby, I mean, the last couple of the turf Virginia Derby's
deterministic just has won two great ones in a row, just won
last weekend. And then in the integration has
been a really, really good representative for that race.
So we've had some nice ones come through here.
But yeah, Mystic Dan, as far as he's concerned, I I was told it
was kind of a last minute decision.
My guess is a total guess. And maybe you know more than I
do. You're you're in Kentucky.
I would guess they're prepping for Kentucky down as kind of the
ultimate turf goal. And, you know, The thing is, if
he runs third and I, I don't know much about the whole
stallion thing, the whole sales world turns me off.
But if, you know, if he's grade one, if he's a Derby one, it's
grade one placed on turf. I, I would, I would be, you
know, so if he runs third or second or wins, like I would
sure that'd be a good feather in his cap for, for his resume.
And you know, also if you run third, you make $100,000, which,
you know, isn't bad. So I, I, I like it.
I just think Kenny is such a sporting trainer and and the
owners, the gas was they were here last week with the horse of
theirs. So maybe I, I again, I don't
know their connections, but I mean, the fact that they were
out here and they're coming back this week, I think is really,
really cool for us and in Virginia and for for their
horse. But I just I love trainers that
run their horses and we've seen a lot of Derby winners that went
off form. They get retired really, really
quick and Mystic Dan went off form.
He had three real clunkers in a row and all of a sudden comes
back and now he's kind of back in form again.
And I think they're being rewarded for that.
I think it's a really outstanding, I don't know, I've
become a big Candy Mcpeak fan last year, just kind of how he
handled all that with Torpedo Anna and and Mystic Dan.
And he runs his horses and he's, you know, and he's just good
about it. You know when?
When the way Lucas passed away, I was concerned in my mind that
we would lose that that breed of trainer that instead of training
into shape to run, they they ran their horses and Kenny's got
that out West. We've got Doug O'Neill just you
know, yeah, we'll try the turf today.
You know, I kind of think to it. So maybe those guys at at the
highest levels aren't gone. Jason in our sport and hopefully
there's. A couple of them, yeah.
No, there's, there's a couple of them, but it, it's, I don't
know, it just makes it just makes it more fun for people
when they can kind of follow along.
And, and Kenny knows that like he, I remember when he won the
Derby, I was like, are you kidding me?
Kenny is going to run the Preakness, of course.
And you know, and, and it was great.
The only Preakness I ever got to go to was that one.
What was the silver, silver, whatever?
Obviously it's stuck in my. Family Seize the Grey.
That's the name of that horse. His name, Yeah.
There you go. He wasn't calling it.
So he's Jason Beebe will be on the call.
Am I allowed? Is Grant Sonata coming?
That's the only question I had about the Arlington Million,
because I think that's horse. I think that the United Nations
was a good race. Yeah, I haven't, I haven't heard
one or the other on that. I'm literally like in the
parking lot. So I'm going to, you know, and
I, I was travelling all weekend, so I, I took a little vacation
to get away from horse racing for a couple days before this.
So I'm I'm a tiny bit out of the loop.
We'll let you out of here on this.
You are a baseball. You like to visit the stadiums.
What's the best one you've been to this year?
Yeah. I just went to the PNC Park the
other night. Spectacular.
Pittsburgh. Yeah, it's.
Great. Yeah, yeah, everybody, everybody
says it's like a top three or four, and they're probably
right. Yeah.
Fenway and Camden are still my favorites.
But yeah, the, the the PNC was was outstanding.
And then I went to the nationals last night and the AIDS whooped
and bad. So I was gone by about 6:00.
The National Park is fine. It's perfectly clean.
You know, you can take the metro train and that's always an
adventure. But yeah, so yeah, PNC is for
for this year is. So I think the only ones I've
been to this year is the Steinberg, the minor League One
in Tampa. And then Miami.
I went down for the I have a buddy that works with the
Giants, so whenever they're around, I always go see them.
And so that was why I went to Pittsburgh.
There you go. What did you think of my pizza
that I sent you the photo of the other day?
That that looked good. I mean, I didn't try it.
Try to make these pizzas at all. Try to get into this.
What? Anyway, I got me thinking, does
Pittsburgh have a pizza style Pittsburgh?
Every city, kind of. It's a great question.
Yeah, we waited. We've discussed the Tavern style
here that, you know, the bear nose.
Different things. Pittsburgh.
Yeah. I don't.
Don't they do that one with the cold cheese on top.
Isn't that a Western Pennsylvania thing?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes, you're right, You're
right. You're right.
That's Beto's, I think it's called.
I didn't, I didn't do a whole lot of culinary.
I was only there for about 24 hours or I ate at the ballpark.
But yeah, I think Beto's is the famous cold cheese, which I get
me. I don't know, like I like the
hot, cold dynamic on stuff. I think it's great with
desserts. But man, I don't know.
But yeah, melt my cheese, you know?
It's a pizza. Melt my cheese.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's Jason Beam at BB
Awards on Twitter. We appreciate him joining us
here. Have a great time with the calls
on Saturday. And yeah, hopefully, hopefully
the rain is forecasted the way that it's going to go.
A little rain today, will be dry by Saturday.
That sounds good. All right, Jace, appreciate you
buddy. Talk to you soon all.
Right, see you later. Bye, bye.
There we go. Jason Beam in his car in a
parking lot in Virginia. There you go.
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