BloodHorse Monday 10/13/25 | BC, Keeneland Sales

All right, welcome in it is a Monday the 13th edition.

I don't know what kind of cat you have to avoid on a Monday

the 13th, but Eshawn Collins I'm Lou Rabo.

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A bunch of great stuff going on. We will talk with what's the

folks from Lanes end today, start talking to some consigners

ahead of that sale at Keeneland right after Breeders' Cup of

course. And so a lot going on the next

couple of weeks. Busy, busy time in the sport,

Shawn. Something happening?

Is anything going on? Besides me wearing a dad shirt,

no. So the busy time of year, man,

it's fun. Yeah.

Well, you know, it's one of those interesting things we all

look at this and obviously the lead up to the Breeders Cup that

makes it a busy time of year. But then you also look at you've

got the sales side of things coming up that are going to make

things busy. This is also the time of year

and the month of the year where like we're getting a lot of the

stallion rosters and the stud fees getting posted for next

year. So there's a lot moving on and

moving along and the breeding and the sales side of the world

as well. So kind of all three aspects of

the industry that the raising, the breeding in the sales side

are all kind of moving around and getting pieced together at

this time of year. I call October decision making

time. Because you're either deciding

if you're going to the Breeders cup or if you're doing something

else to the horse or if they're going to the breeding shed.

Yeah, this is decision time, October very much in that group.

And so I it is like you said, it's an interesting time.

We get the headlines about every oh, one or two a week.

Oh, this, this horse is headed off to sire, you know, off to

stud, you know, that kind of thing, rather than racing next

year as a four year old, 5 year old, whatever it might be.

Last year, this time of year we were really wondering will we

get a fierceness or Sierra Leone or a mind frame or, or or as 4

year olds Mystic Dan, we got all of them.

I don't want to make any predictions on this three-year

old crop at all, but boy did we get spoiled.

And you know what? It's turned out to be a really

nice year in the handicap and we used to call it the handicap

division, the older male 2 Dern division, whatever you want to

call it. Yes, yes.

Yeah, it's been a very nice year and it's been a lot of fun.

We we talked about this way back when we started the show at the

start of the year, right? How been one of the themes since

we started? This how?

How exciting the four year old crop was going to be this year

and it lived up to the expectations.

They've all run well. You know, they've each had kind

of that one race where they may be lost, but you know, they

still typically ran well. They were running against each

other. So we got to see some of those

matchups. Now we're going to get to throw

the three-year olds in with them and it sets up for what could be

probably one of the greatest Breeders' Cup classics in.

History, it's at least going to be a a a candidate for it for

sure. We even get, you know, and I

mentioned the two turd racing still got a book of Dano this

year, right? I mean, we've had horses that

have been great on multiple services, multiple distances,

that kind of thing. So it's been that part's been

really, really enjoyable for sure.

What else are you looking forward to right now?

We just had the QE 2, for example, at Keeneland.

And that's always an interesting time of year, Sean, because you

can't very easily turn around with the Breeders Cup being

several states away and go run in that kind of race, go run in

the Philly and Mare Turf, whatever it might be.

But some Moira win that race that eventually went at the

Breeders Cup as well. So it can be a predictor of very

high level success. And I mentioned this on the show

last week with you that there are races that hold a a spot in

your brain as I really have to pay attention to who won this

thing. Yes, because it is going to

matter down the line. Well, we had Bob on a couple

weeks ago. Bobby E hauled, of course.

You can find him at bloodhorse.com.

I talked about the champagne being a really predictive race

for two year olds, right? You're just being an incredibly

important one. QE 2 stands out like that for.

Me, yes, it does. And you we've seen a lot of

really good winners of this race over the last couple of years.

It's kind of like if if you are a three-year old Philly and you

don't want to take the test of the Philly and mayor turf

because also, you know, that's a that's a long race.

I think it's mile and 3/8 this year if you want to kind of stay

in that mile and 8th range and you don't want to take on the

older Phillies and mares. This is kind of the championship

race for that division at the end of the year.

It's right here, Keeneland on that turf course that and we had

such a phenomenal race, A group of Phillies in the race again

this year. We'll probably hear from several

of them going forward. Lush lips obviously coming out

on top. We had Brendan Walsh on the show

last week. It just extending this great

meet that he is having so far and.

The Blood Horse Monday. Bump a Blood horse Monday.

The best show for trainers is not close.

Come on this show, when you dominate Tapan St.

When's the Florida Derby? I mean, it's been for a long

time on this show. Yes, many episodes.

You're welcome, Brendan. Obviously, it's what we do and

not what you do every morning. Yes.

Yeah, right. Yeah, it was another great race.

She set up, set a perfect trip right in behind the leader and

broke up the jump on Laurel. And as they were coming down the

stretch, Theon kind of got stuck in the back when there was a,

you know, the the front runners never came back to her.

The first 3, even though they switched the order as they got

to the finish line, the top three kind of down the

backstretch were the top three at the finish line.

So Fiona, I still think ran well, all things considered, but

it was a great race. Lush lips finally kind of got

that breakthrough victory in this race.

And she seems like one that they're kind of finally starting

to kind of get figured out. Tyler Gafflione was a bore.

He said that, you know, she she feels a lot different now.

She feels like, you know, she's starting to put it together.

She's maturing as she gets to the end of her three-year old

season here. And so this is an exciting

Philly to look forward to. Even if she doesn't run in the

Breeders Cup, she's one to look forward to when we get to like

the matriarch or the American Oaks later on in the year.

So she's going to be one of these top Phillies to.

Watch there's it's rare that I'm that I say what I'm about to

say, but is there a reason for us maybe frankly, to be excited

about this three-year old Philly crop?

As far as the turf, what if nitrogen goes back to the turf?

We have field, we have lush lips.

It isn't very often that I get excited about American, you

know, a year of American turf runners.

Now, obviously Lush Lips is a is a British brand and all those

things, but it isn't often that I get excited about the quality

of the three-year old Philly turf crop.

But it's really good this year. Like it is stunningly good this

year. The fact that Beyond couldn't

get a run in this race gives you an idea of how deep.

It is, yes. It's very deep.

And you know we've seen where nitrogen has translated that to

the dirt. And so if you could maybe get a

couple of these other Phillies that could do that.

We think back to another Mark Cassie horse who was trained or

who is running against Nitrogen throughout the early, early part

of the year in Vixen. Vixen was holding her own, got

right behind nitrogen. Now she's running in the Raven

Run Stakes on the dirt this weekend.

So we'll see what she can do on the dirt.

If you start getting a couple of these Phillies that can maybe

transition back and forth or even if those Phillies leave

like Nitrogen and Vixen the turf and they start running on the

dirt. We still have a really

competitive group of three-year old Phillies here this year.

And it's also, you know, kind of it's a group where we haven't

really seen that one step up and just dominate the whole year to

where you'd be thinking potentially retirement heading

off to the breeding shed. So we're going to get all of

them back next year, continuing to develop.

As 4 year olds, which is going to be pretty good, what do you

think about some of them that ran behind here?

Laurelin, Opulent, restraint, etcetera.

Anybody stand out to you as hey, we need to watch this one next?

Hour, I really like Laurelin. I mean, she was undefeated

coming into this race. I don't think she ran bad at

all. I just think the way the race

set up, flush lips wasn't slowing down so she just

couldn't. Catch up.

I got the jump and it was. It was enough.

Yeah, it was enough. And so I like, I want to see

what she can do moving forward. Opulent restraints run very well

in a couple of races now against these kind of fillies.

And she hasn't gotten the wing yet against them, but she's been

right there. She's been a competitive part of

these races. So, you know, at some point

she's going to breakthrough in one of these races.

So it's an exciting group as we move forward in the next year

for sure. It it's fun watching Brendan get

to do this only because it's something I brought up in the

interview with him last week was I?

I watched him with Gossgar at 2 events where they that horse

should have won a grade one this summer.

First in the Preakness with Sade rally by journalism in the

stretch of course at at at Old Old Hilltop, as we call it Old

Old Hilltop. I was having this discussion

with Dave Rodman. We're not calling it new

Hilltop. Old New Hilltop is what we're

going to call it. OK, Old new Hilltop.

All right, I guess you heard it here first.

We're still working. This is like when we're working

out the kicks here. Like when they turn with the

Triple Crown back in the day. Yeah, right.

Binding moment. Listen.

Blood Horse Monday isn't going to name new tracks.

I don't know what, what else are we going to do?

We're changing Belmont's name to Elmont.

We're just going to name it after the city.

We don't need it to be Belmont anymore.

Still be the Belmont Stakes. That's fine.

But it's going to be Elmont. Elmont, you know, just go ahead,

drop the beat. It's the whole thing.

But yeah. Well, getting to watch Brendan

have this kind of success in such a concentrated time.

Yeah. And a place that he really

enjoys, too. He likes being in Keeneland.

And so it's been really fun to watch.

More surprising to you, this performance by Lush Lips or

Ginjin. I know it's probably Ginjin, but

frankly, this is this is as good a performance as we've seen on

the turf for any 3 year old this year.

And. It was, and I'm not I'm not too

surprised by it because even though she hadn't won, I mean

she was, she was running second to nitrogen and then her race

where she finally got rid of nitrogen, she won easy.

And then she went out to California and ran a very good

second, only beating the half length out there in California

and grade one company. So it's not surprising at all

that she ended up getting this victory at all.

So out of the two, I would say Ginjin was more of the surprise,

but I would say, but like Jinjin, you could also kind of

see where she was kind of coming.

She's starting to come into her own as well.

So I wouldn't say that was a huge shock.

Obviously it was an upset in the race for who she was running

against, but I think just Brendan's got a couple of really

nice Phillies on his hands right now that are really starting to

come into their own. When I interview coaches, I

always ask him is it X's and O's or Jimmy's and Joe's?

Not a single one has ever said X's and O's.

Every trainer will tell you if I've got the horses that we've

got a shot. That's it, right?

And you know, we talked even with the late Wayne Lucas over

the summer and he was even very much of that opinion.

Now, if you have the horses, you win races.

That's exactly so. Thanks.

But hey, Brendan's put him in good spots as well.

Again, I want to thank our friends at Keelan for hanging

out with us all month on the program.

Let's go ahead and bring him in. He's our editor over there at

Blood Horse. His name is Frank.

Ganks joins us here on the program.

Been a couple of weeks. Frank, how you been?

Pretty good. How are you guys doing?

We're doing great, great beautiful day outside.

I'm a when old school, whatever the opposite of old school guy

is. I do my radio show outside on

Monday mornings when I can. Today was definitely one of

those. Yeah, I don't think, I don't

think old school guys. Oh, no.

With that, I don't think In the studio, smoking cigarettes,

drinking black coffee. That's exactly right.

But Frank's with us from there in the beautiful, beautiful

blood horse. Office, I mean all of the great

things and and knock on wood with keen ones just had a

perfect weather. I mean, we Lexington did see

that 24 hour stretch of rain, but it conveniently happened on

2 to a dark day and a half basically.

So it's just been it's actually a good point.

It can keep going. It was making up for the spring

when we had to move those races around at the beginning of the

beginning of the meet. We're going to wait for the wait

for the dark days to rain this time.

I just built an ark. That's how you had to get to the

bluegrass this year. Just build an ark in the go

ahead or I'll live with that. Have a break even.

When I'm in the ark so I just. I will swim it from John hiking

in the Cuba. Anybody anything stand out so

far? A performance that you've

especially enjoyed this this media Keeneland?

Oh, wow. I mean, just a number of horses

for sure. And you know, I, I just the, the

spendthrift horses. It's just been one after

another, you know, starting with Ted and Offi and then they they

win the Philly race as well and then they unveil a maiden that

wins by 20 lengths. It's just as an owner, you know,

it can't get any better than that and it's really impressive.

Also impressive so far in the Keeneland meet.

Talk about Not this Time. We had a great article last week

from Eric Mitchell talking about his historic weekend at an

opening week at Keeneland. He has another great at stakes

win yesterday, a great at stakes exacta yesterday.

Just how unprecedented is the start to the Keeneland meet for

Not This Time? I mean, you just it's just a

stallion that's just on fire right now and just see each

runner just keeps seeing them top topping themselves.

Not that they're competing against one another, but it just

has to be thrilling for TaylorMade and to just see

winter after winter like that and stakes win after stakes win

it's. Been fun too, Frank.

I brought it up with Brendan Walsh.

It's amazing this game. It'll it'll, it'll give you that

Preakness and that and that that hassle for for Gossgard.

But then it'll give you a Jinjin in the spinster.

And it's it's pretty remarkable to watch the ups and downs that

way. Yeah, I mean, that's, that's why

they get out and race and long shots get their chance.

And you know now, now that horse has a Breeders' Cup challenge

bid to the to the Distaff, so it can build on itself for sure.

I also wanted to say just as a guy who goes, you go up more

often than any of us to the track for sure, Sean, but as a

guy who goes to the track a lot, what Frank said earlier about

weather and things, it has been a real Keeneland fall.

It has been busy, it's been loud, it's been fun, people are

in a great mood. I mean, it's it's been a real

Keeneland meet this fall because like you said, in the spring, we

didn't get a lot of hours. So it's been really, really

nice. I had to get into those things

as well. We're going to talk with the

with the Lane's End people here. Coming up.

Frank, what are you starting to look ahead to the sale at

Keeneland? I know it's after Breeders' Cup

and we're certainly doing those things, but is there a trend

you're watching for? Is it?

I mean, yeah, I mean the last few days, last few weeks we've

been looking at what Breeders' Cup stories are out there and we

always just kind of check on the milestone.

So I thought, you know, we can share a pull back, pull back the

curtain at on some of the things that we're looking at.

You know, the the leading leading trainers at the Breeders

Cup. The late Wayne Lucas has twenty

wins let last year Aidan O'Brien caught up with him with with

twenty wins. Definitely should say that Wayne

got his 20 in it in it most for the most part in a different era

where there weren't as many Breeders' Cup races.

But records are made to be broken thing.

Things change and Aiden is right there and he'll figure right on

that Friday with some starters in the Juvenile Turf to see if

he can go over that milestone. But but right on his heels are

Bob Baffert and Chad Brown with 19 wins each.

And they of course both have will both have starters.

They both have starters pointing for the Classic with Bob Baffert

and Nevada Beach. Another 3 year old for Bob.

He has had a lot of success in the classic with his three-year

olds and not necessarily triple crap.

You know, like American Pharaoh, obviously, but you know, he also

had a Bayern who, you know, ran in the Preakness, but not very

well and Arrogate developed late.

So, so Nevada Beach, I, I would give that horse a long look.

It's, it's something Bob has pulled off before.

And then Chad Brown with your defending winner, Sierra Leone.

So that would be something. And, and obviously, you know,

Bob will have starters in both 2 year old dirt races.

Chad will have some other starters.

So we'll see how that all shakes out.

I, you know, going in Bob's got a lot of opportunities he could

very welcome out on top of this in terms of wins, he's already

there and money won more than $42 million in purse earnings

for for his horses going in. So he, he could definitely add

to that as well. Well, they all could all those

trainers could add to that. So keeping an eye on that.

There's there's a similar battle atop the sires by winds going

in. There's four of them that are

tied with eight wins each more than ready Curlin Dubawi and

probably the one that you would make the morning line favorite

to come out ahead of the on this is into mischief.

It will have sovereignty in the classic and Ted Nafi and the

juvenile and many others. And so that could be a big, big

weekend for him. Interestingly enough, in the

classic, Kerlin will have journalism.

So we're all pulling for those two to have a showdown again.

What we we'd love a replay of that.

And then, you know, Dabawi has little rebels romance who's

looking for his third straight, not straight, I'm sorry, his

third Breeders' Cup win. He did have a year in between

there that he didn't win. So going for a third win, the

the only horse that has had three straight is Goldacova and

then the the only other horse with three wins not consecutive

was Beholder. So pretty exclusive club there

for sure. Where does that put rebels

romance then as far as we, you know when we talk about all time

kind of turfers that you know make their way to North America

etcetera, where does a third win?

Where could that put him? I mean, I, I think that puts him

right up there. You know for sure.

I I think he would probably say Goldacova's the Phillian mayor

and rebels romance is is your male of the two.

I mean it's that would put them right there for sure.

I mean, you know, obviously a lot of these horses win and then

they go off the stud. So it's how you however you want

to look at it. But but I sure appreciate the

horse that keeps coming back and and keeps winning like that.

Also on the female side. I put Ouija board way up there.

She. Was.

Oh yeah, yeah. Spectacular returned at what was

it two wins in the second, I think might have to double check

that, but she was she was amazing to see together on the

Philly or mayor side. Yeah, I there's so many great

memories of those Braves Cup runners, all those champions.

You brought up Nevada Beach earlier, potentially.

The Classic gets that three months, essentially, Yeah, about

2 1/2 months between the Low Sal Derby and then out of the

Goodwood. The Great One, where he faced

older horses for the first time, goes ahead and wins.

That one feels like an arrogant kind of story to me, frankly.

It really does, as Nevada Beach moves closer to the Classic.

Right time for sure. And and you know, we we

mentioned, you know, the legacy of rebels romance and we also

mentioned beholder it the legacy of that beholder family.

I if she's not our I mean it, it's between her and the

personal instant family of who's the greatest that I I would

probably if you count into miss. So what we're talking about here

is Beholder is out of Leslie's Lady, who's already also

produced Mendelssohn. So Leslie's Lady has produced 2

Breeders' Cup winners, and she's also the dam of Into Mischief,

who is sired, as we said, 8 Breeders' Cup winners.

So already, if you count all that, that's a pretty

spectacular family. Now Beholder has Tamara running

in the filling Mirror Sprint. So could just add another

incredible story to that family. Just just amazing.

When you see these big time horses produce over and over

again, it's it's really impressive.

Unbelievable, frankly. Yeah.

Talking with Frank Eggs, of course, from Blood Horse and

bloodhorse.com. We always ask you about the

magazine, what's going on for either this month or for

November. Yeah, I mean, coming, coming up.

So, so I'll, I'll provide a little bit of a spoiler as

Rebels romance will be our our cover boy, the cover shot for

the Breeders Cup preview issue coming up in November.

Some good historic pieces in there.

Looking at Kona Gold, the the sprinter, it did so well looking

at some of the memorable distaste.

Jay Hubney takes a look at that. And as we mentioned earlier,

Kate Hunter, we have a feature on her and her many roles, many

of which are tied to Breeders' Cup.

And we'll also have a story on the official artist of the

Breeders Cup of those, those are always good stories.

Julie Jane Stewart does a terrific job profiling equine

artist, and then that'll fall into that issue as well.

Kota Gold Not a Hall of Famer yet?

Would you vote for Kota Gold for the Hall of Fame?

So if I answer this question, my phone may ring from Jay Humpty

within 30 seconds. Oh, since.

I brought it up. I Pippen Privman, right?

That's the whole thing for those guys.

I have a difficult time putting sprinters in, but I consider

him. I consider him every year and I

understand the attraction, Yeah. We love.

You too, you know, as a voter, each year I, I do, I do try to

give Horse a fresh look and look at it again, but I, I have not

voted for him to this point. There you go.

All right, well, there you go. There's a little code of gold

talk on on Monday. There you go.

There you go. Well, Frank, we appreciate it

very much. Where do you go and ask for

Halloween? If we haven't had those

discussions yet, what are we doing?

Oh gosh, I have not thought about that at.

All Have you? Have you phased out of that yet?

Is your kid too old to go trick or treating?

Or you. Oh, what's my son going is.

No, but like as he phased out, is your wife like, hey, we're

going to a couple. Party.

So it's kind of the borderline this year, right?

There what? He's going to do, I know one of

his friends called up and said they were going to do talking

about maybe doing some dual costume.

So we'll see if that comes together.

But yeah, it's he's he's getting close to the aging out of that

one. It it's a shame.

You know what, obviously I love going to Breeders' Cup, but that

is one thing it is almost every year I miss Halloween.

So I missed some of those over the years that the ones I was

able to do were terrific. So we made a point of really

celebrating those because we, we knew there weren't too many with

my with my travel plans around that time of year.

All right, well, if you have Frank's costume ideas, go ahead

and drop those in the comments either at YouTube or at Spotify.

We would love to see those. We'll discuss those next week on

the program. Yeah.

There you go. All right.

Sounds good. All right.

Thanks, Frank. Thanks, Scott.

Talk to him next week. There you go, Frank.

Thanks. Our fearless leader there at

Blood Horse. Appreciate him very much.

Jumping on the program. Kona Gold.

That's such a fun. I love that debate.

It makes me so happy. It is so horse racing.

It is so oh, the sprinting isn't it, you know, Oh, but it is and

it's this and oh, they forty runs and ten wins and whatever

else and and just winning, caring about winning percentages

and sprints and these guys. I love it.

I love it so much. I love it.

Oh, give me all the come on, Jay got on the show.

What are we doing? Well, it sounds like the the

Jays need to get you on the voting block for the Hall of

Fame. Once in a while I get emails

about polls and I'm like, how do you get to vote?

Who votes in this besides Frank? You know, maybe it's just Frank

We. At least 100 F breaks personal.

Rankings all over the place. That's all this is NTR.

It's just, it's just Frank and they don't invite anybody else.

And Frank's like, you know what? I don't want that Louis guy

voting. Ridiculous.

What are you doing here? I mean, I I completely

understand it's recently. That what I understand.

That's all right. Enough Halloween talk.

Time to talk sail the Keatlin and really really pleased to

welcome in Alaire Ryan from Lanes Enkins signed we met their

sales director over there a busy couple of weeks coming up here

in the month of October and of course leading into that sale

there at Keeneland in November O'Leary thanks so much for

joining us today how are you I'm.

Doing great, thanks for having me on.

Yeah, no problem at all. Sean Collins, Louis Rouvo with

you here on Blunt Horse Monday. This time of year, do you find

yourself just busier and busy as we get closer to November?

Yeah, it feels a little bit like being in a pinball machine, but

it it's all good. There's a lot to balance right

now between the the yearling sales season wrapping up and,

you know, the breeding stock sale season about to begin.

And then you kind of layer the digital sales on top of that.

So it makes for a a busy time of year, but it's also very, very

productive and very rewarding time of year.

Yeah, and we were talking a little earlier on the show, you

know, this probably doesn't necessarily fall in in your

basket as much. But on top of that, you also

have like where all the breeding farms are releasing stud fees at

this time of year at our stallion rosters.

Obviously on the racing side of things, the Breeders Cup is

coming up. So just overall for the entire

lanes end team, quite a busy time isn't?

It absolutely. Yeah.

Yeah, an exciting time of year for sure to lay Ryan from Lanes

with us here on Blood Horse Mondays.

Some exciting ones going into the sale and Bava, certainly the

name that most people are going to name going to know ahead of

the sale and certainly during it.

What goes into the decision making process of a horse like

Bava ending up in this? Well, in in her particular case,

you know, being owned by a partnership, it was it was a

group decision and a big part, part of that group or that team

is Cherie Devoe. So there was a lot of, you know,

faith put in to what Cherie thought and how she thought this

year was going to pan out for the Philly.

She was entered in the sale last year and they opted to keep her

in training an additional year, which has been a fortuitous

decision looking at what she's accomplished this year.

And she she into the Breeders Cup Sprint.

And from there, she'll she'll come to Kentucky and we'll see

what she can do on the on the big auction stage.

What is that process like getting her, you know, back from

however she does out there in California, getting her back and

she'll have a couple days before she enters into the sales ring.

But how do you guys get her adjusted and then also make sure

that any potential buyers have the opportunity to take a look

at her? Yeah, it's, you know, it's

really quite a quick turn around the a lot of the Breeders Cup

contenders that do end up in the sales come to Kentucky on the

same flight, which will depart either Saturday or Sunday,

depending on which races they run in.

So really she'll, she'll land and then come straight to the

sale grounds where she'll be stabled in Barn 6 at Keeneland.

And it's, it's really a test of the horses class and, and

confidence and, you know, just overall character for them to go

from racing to an airplane to the sale grounds.

But we're talking about such, you know, elite athletes, not

only in what they can accomplish physically, but what, what they,

you know, just the class and the character that they possess to,

to compete on the world stage. And then to have them come to

the sale barn, you really get a sense of those intangible

qualities that these horses like Baba have.

So she'll start, she'll start showing to potential buyers as

soon as she arrives to Keeneland.

You know, she'll sell Tuesday afternoon on the the 4th of

November. So she'll have two full days for

people to preview her at the sale.

And, you know, they'll get to ask us questions about her, her

disposition, that sort of thing, any, any sort of health history

that people are interested in. But, you know, when you look at

her race record it, it really speaks for itself.

I mean, she's just, she's an example of class and speed and

toughness and, and durability. So she'll she'll do most of the

selling herself. Yeah, obviously we've seen what

she can do on the racetrack. She's Grade 1 winner.

She's been one of the more consistent runners in this

division over the last couple of years.

But obviously, you know, Keeneland November breeding

stock sale, we're looking at broodmare prospects here.

There's the pedigree side of it as well.

Just what can you tell us about your guys's expectations for her

as a broodmare? I mean, I expect her to be

received extremely well by the market, not just based on what

she's accomplished on the racetrack, but you know, Gun

Runner is, is a young broodmare sire per SE.

But we do know that Candy Ride is a very successful broodmare

sire. So I expect people to respect

that fact as well when they're looking at her as a broodmare

prospect. And she's one that, you know,

she could go to a number of different stallions both here or

if she gets bought by say it's someone in Japan or Europe.

She's a good outcross that way. You know, here domestically, she

she could go to someone like quality Rd.

She could go to an office time or Nyquist tap it justify.

I mean the options are are plentiful with her so.

You'll have her in as a HIP 187. HIP 107 will be Justique, a

daughter of Doctor Justify, and this is an interesting 1, you

know, a listed stakes winner a couple of different times we've

seen the justifies do a little bit of everything on the track.

Where do you think she'll end up landing?

What kind of what kind of what kind of career do you think is

lies ahead for her? You know I I see her being very

attractive to the domestic market as well.

We actually consigned her half sister that steaks place

Champagne Lady in full to flight line at Keeneland November sale

2 years ago. She brought 1.45 and Champagne

Lady is continue to be bred. She has a full by justify at her

side and she was bred to gun runner in 26.

So an exciting young pipeline is there with with Justique's

female family. You know, the fact that she was

a debut winner at 2A, stakes winner at 2, graded placed at 2.

I see people here in in the North American market really

respecting that, that early ability that she had, that she

demonstrated that kind of speed. And and you do point out the

versatility that we've seen and justify as a stallion, But

that's, that's kind of the market that I see her landing.

And she'd be a a perfect addition to anyone's commercial

broodmare band here in the States.

She was trained by Cherie Devoe here at the end of her career

and now unlike Vava, who's going to be running in the Breeders

Cup and then shipping over, she's been away from the races

since June. She ran her final career race

back in June at Saratoga. So what what's the difference in

your team's ability to kind of identify throughout the year?

Like, what's the process of identifying throughout the year

which Phillies and mares are really going to take well to the

market here in the November sale?

Well, she was one that we knew would be a good a good

commercial offering this November being that she herself

was a a $725,000 yearling purchase.

She she is a very good looking Philly.

Again, the the accomplishment she made on the track, you know,

are are really those types of credentials that that people are

looking for in in broodmare prospects here.

I mean, she in 19 starts, 11 of them were in graded stakes

races. So again, just seeing that kind

of early ability and then to to carry it out consistently over

the course of her her career. And you know, the decision with

Justique was made to to bring her to the farm this summer once

she was kind of showing that she had accomplished what she needed

to on the track. And that was very well

identified by Cherie and her team.

So we've actually been able to buddy her up with some other

fillies here at the farm. She's let down very nicely.

And so she won't be looking racing fit like Vava, but she's

still have has a lot of physical appeal that that I think will be

respected by the commercial market when people see her in

November. Ala Ryan with us, she's from

Lanes and Consignments. She's the sales director there.

Appreciate her jumping on blood Horse Monday with Sean Collins

and me, Livia Beau. I was talking Keeneland sale, of

course, coming up in November. Another one of those that will

be on there will be the 175 Pure Majestic.

This is an interesting one. Took a little time for her to

break her bait but immediately came back and won in steaks

company after that. A daughter of Tappet.

I think I have an idea where this might land.

Yeah. So she's actually the only

stakes winner broodmare prospect by Tappet on offer at the

November sales this year, which is a very unique, very special

opportunity for for buyers. As you mentioned, she she was a

stakes winner at 2 and actually a a winner on both surfaces, her

fan dirt, which is an interesting aspect of

versatility that she has. I mean, tap it being the number

one broomer sire in North America.

What other introductions do you need?

But she also happens to be a three quarter sister to tonal

shape who's a Grade 2 winner. So she's got back class to her

pedigree as well. So I, I'm excited to offer her,

like I said, that you know, you can't say enough about Tap It as

a broodmare sire and for her to be a young stakes winner out of

a proven female family, she's she's got plenty to offer.

We also have a hip four O 9 and Gal in a Rush, daughter of Ghost

Zapper, who's on offer here. She just just.

Last month that was want to grade 2 at press Kyle Downs.

What are your expectations for her?

Yeah, she did. She was, she was a runner up in

a Grade 3 at at Woodbine just this past weekend as well.

Love the Ghost Zapper influence being that she's by Ghost Zapper

again. We talked about that injection

of speed into into breeding that is really appealing to

especially our our domestic breeding operations here in the

States. She was again, a very sound

filly, a model of consistency, you know, winning from 2 to 625

starts to her name, 17 of them in the money.

It doesn't doesn't get much more consistent than that.

And a lovely, a lovely physical as well.

You know, she's got that nice big deep body that you get with

ghost sappers. She's correct.

She's got a lovely head on her. I think she's one that people

are are going to be endeared towards once they see her in

person. I wanted to ask because she did

have success on the synthetic, both that Presque Isle and up at

Woodbine. When you, when you have a horse,

you know, when you have a mare like this, do you see more

people asking questions about synthetic with, you know, the

purse structure now, say a Turfway or a Gulfstream where,

you know, New Belmont Park, eventually where we're going to

see these courses, Do you get many, many questions about, you

know, hey, could this horse do the synthetic?

Yeah, you absolutely do. And I mean, she's, she's proven

that. So it's, it's an interesting

aspect that like you said, we're going to be seeing more and more

of here in the States. So yeah.

Well, another exciting prospect here is hip 1192 English Charm.

She's a half sister to Burnham Square, who everyone remember

running on the Kentucky Derby trail this year, winning the

Grade 1 Bluegrass Stakes and just running a very close second

in his turf debut in the Nashville Derby a few weeks ago.

She's in full to Liam's Map, the sire of Burnham Square.

So what can you? What are you guys expecting?

From her, What can you tell us about her?

Yeah, she's she's a lovely pregnant maiden.

As you mentioned, she's in folder lambs map.

So Brad very closely to to Burnham Square and what a neat

horse he is and has been fun to follow throughout his career.

Like you mentioned, they switched switch from dirt to

turf this fall and he he seemed to relish that as well.

So she's she's going to be 1 for people to keep an eye on, you

know, Liam's map with three grade one winners this year and

being 1/2 brother to not this time.

It's it's an exciting sire line. And yeah, I mean, she in terms

of somebody looking for a pregnant mayor that's, you know,

got something to offer from pretty much every angle in terms

of covering sire, physical and pedigree, she she checks those

boxes. I'm about to ask about

Flightline. OK.

What's your what was your personal?

Do you? Is this one of those?

I remember where I was when I found out Flightline was coming.

Our way was one of those. Yeah, well, I knew for a while

he was coming our way, but. When you see that Pacific

Classic, when you see the Breeders Cup though, is it?

Did your eyeballs get even bigger than?

Oh man, he's just a horse of our generation, you know, I mean, he

really is what what a neat horse of a lifetime.

I mean, I remember, you know, looking at him on On the Farm as

a, as a weanling even, you know, because he went through our

yearling sale consignment. And so yeah, he's one that kind

of brought that full circle moment to help for sure when he

when he retired to stud so. Well, we saw how well his

yearling sold at the different yearling sales throughout the

year here. You guys are offering two mayors

in full to flight line as part of your consignment here.

So what are what, what's the benefit for potential buyers

right now getting in on a mayor that's already in full to flight

line with the expectation we'll see what they do on the

racetrack, which I'm sure is going to be great next year, but

already kind of having expectations that these horses

are going to sell really. Well, at the early sales.

Yeah. You know, I think an important

thing to note is especially if you got to see them in person,

the level of quality that he throws as a stallion is really

remarkable. And and I don't mean that in

necessarily the way that they all look the same or that they

look similar. He he's more of a mere dominant

stallion. And by that I mean that his

offspring tend to look like the dams line or the dams

themselves. So I think he's going to be one

of those stallions. And let's also mention like the

quality of his first book of mirrors wasn't just, you know,

grade one winning dirt Phillies or grade one winning dirt

producers. I mean, he had sprinters, you

know, distance mirrors, you know, successful mirrors on on

dirt and turf. And so I think I think he lends

a really unique opportunity as a covering sire this year for

people that are looking for certain mayor types that they're

really drawn to. So whether you're looking for

something to add to your bird mirror band here in the States

or take overseas, I think he's going to enhance that no matter

what the what the goals are of your breeding operation, because

that's what he did with his first crop of foals.

Whatever the mayor was by or whatever her sire line was, he

enhanced those physical qualities that you tend to see

with those those bloodlines. And I think that's a really

unique and hopefully strong trade of his going forward.

Well, you also have a couple mayors on offer from a few of

your younger stallions who were very excited to see how their

kids end up performing up to the mark.

Arcangelo more than looks being three of those.

Just what can you tell us about your expectations for for the

foals that are going to come from these horses?

Yeah, so we love the Arcangelo's and we love the up to the marks

that we have on the farm. We're going to be represented

with weanlings by both sires at the sales.

And you know, for anyone that's broodmare shopping, I would

recommend, if you don't already, look at the first year weanlings

that are on the ground or on offer and you'll get you'll get

a a snapshot of what is to come. If you know Mayor is in full to

say Archangelo or or up to the mark in his second year at stud.

Both of these stallions are throwing very strong physicals,

easy to like foals, just well made, good balance, clean limbed

for the most part and and also well marked.

You know they're attractive horses.

So for the mirrors that we have selling in full to up to the

mark in Archangelo, that's what I'll be, you know, kind of

trickling that Intel to people that we really like the quality

and the first crop of foals by both sires and only expect that

to further come in his second crop.

Underrated summer two years ago for up to the mark.

Yeah, three grade ones in a row and then goes ahead.

Misses the Breeders Cup by almost not just an incredible 4

races in a row for him. So excited to see his prodigy

for sure. Yeah, Larry ride with us from

from Blades end and Luke, just one more to mention here.

I think as far as your other mayors in in full more than

looks as well on your stallion registry there.

What? What should we look for there?

Yeah, more than looks. What a neat horse he was.

I'll never forget how impressive that turn of foot was in the

Breeders Cup last year. We've got 33 mirrors in full to

him in the sale, all young mares too as well, with plenty ahead

of them in terms of their their productive futures go.

So again, a horse that I think being a son of the late great

more than ready has has a a unique and a sire line that is,

you know, open to, you know, really being compatible with

mayors by any type of of of stallion here.

So the Phillies that we have are all pregnant maidens info to him

and and again should be should be received well when people see

them at the sale grounds. So there you.

Go. She's lair, right?

Appreciate her jumping on today. Best of luck the next couple of

weeks. I'm sure you'll have plenty of

visitors. And of course, by the time we

get to the key, let's say, yeah, be well.

Thank you. Thanks for joining us here on A

Blood Horse Monday. Thanks to Alair for joining us

here on the program. And of course thanks to our

friends over at Keeneland. I want to thank them one more

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All right Sean, just a couple of races to look forward to this

weekend. A couple of things to kind of

keep our eyes on, but how much are you allowing yourself to

just kind of look forward and get excited about things like

the classic or the turbo? Those are the.

Things very excited for those races and this is this is the

week where I'm like all right, this is when I'm going to start

kind of going through the backstretch of Churchill Downs

make a couple trips up to Keeneland really kind of start

talking with trainers. All right who's going when are

you going get all those kind of final details and you can follow

along all of that on bloodhorse.com.

I should hopefully have several videos of these horses that are

based here in Kentucky leading up to it.

So make sure you check out the website for that Follow me on

Twitter BH under score S Collins to see some of those video clips

as well running around seeing all these Breeders' Cup horses

we have here. I know you and I are going to

have a busy schedule when we get out to California at the end of

the month. Couple couple different shows

and just overall getting excited for heading out to Del Mar.

Yeah, it's going to be great. Big state bread weekends coming

up in New York, in Indiana with our friends actually in a couple

of weeks. Of course, this weekend we'll be

looking forward to a couple of steaks that you mentioned

earlier. The car, the Raven Run, the

Perryville are both this weekend.

If you are unfamiliar with those races, they are both 7 furlong

dirt races, one of them for three-year olds, one of them for

three-year old Phillies. We've seen some really fine dirt

spreaders come out of that Raven run.

Yeah, for sure. Skonson.

I didn't win it. Baba came out of that.

Oh my gosh, who did? Who did Skonson run against a

bunch of times? She was a closer of a sprinkler.

That was the one. That was the.

One, there it is. Yes, thank you Sir.

She won the Raven run. I also wanted to mention, as I

mentioned the the state breads coming up, not this weekend, but

next in New York and in Indiana, Maryland million day did 5.7

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Well, he's Sean, I'm Louis. We'll be back next week.

We'll have a Raven Run winner to talk about.

And a Perryville. Winner and a Perryville winner.

And you know, probably some more Breeders' Cup stuff I would do.

It's that time of year. Point some more.

Maybe some more keen win sale talk, you know.

I'm sure there'll be plenty of sales talk.

Yes. We're getting close next

November. I'm starting to think we don't

have enough shows here. We might have to do 1 each day

leading up to the Breeders Cup at the end of that week.

What do you think? Will we run out of things to

talk about? Find out next week.

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