Ahh…Keeneland in the Fall

All right. Welcome to a early October

Edition. A fall is in the air addition.

Pumpkin spice, latte edition of the horse-racing hosp.

Our horse racing happy hour after hour.

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It's going to be great, stare off into Service Roads behind

them. Exhale gonna be awesome.

Yeah, yeah. Gady on the hill.

Actually tomorrow, is that first day races at or Saturday?

I should say day race is at Keeneland.

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So, all right, let's go. All right, Charlie, let's go.

You want to go right into racing?

Yeah. All right, Charlie, let's go.

I mean, this is the story of the week, man.

Let's go. There's certain Legends of the

sport. No.

You know what? Honestly, like hot rod Charlie.

Came out and did his thing, but the fighting off, Rich, strike

in this, stretch run is unbelievable.

Zach, let's go ahead and roll this.

Thanks to our friends, NBC Sports, by the way, for the

footage, we're getting ready to play, but they don't know.

That they gave it to us but you did and appreciate you

appreciate you. Zach whenever I was X not even

like getting the shit the screenshare up yet.

So we gotta be able to go. So in case people haven't

followed the story, it's been all over.

All of the the horse things we talking about the jockey here of

coming down the stretch here. So Sunny Leone is of Northern

strike, Lucia saddle. Tyler is board is a board hot

rod Charlie and essentially It is very obvious that there is

contact between jockeys in the stretch and I was standing in

right behind the Winner's Circle for this race.

Actually, go ahead and play exact humblebrag and now hot

rod. Charlie starts to crank up the

pressure on our calero. Charlie, the five Rich strike,

the foil are collector. No excuses, right?

Charlie, is that get ready to pause them?

So there's the a pole right there.

We lost it. There it is.

Right there, hot rod. This is, this is, by the way,

one of the great rides that rich strike has ever gotten.

He's closer to the pack, he's only 56 lengths off the leaders,

they made the move earlier on with this horse so that when he

did close, Stretch here at Churchill Downs.

He was able to catch hot rod Charlie and you're going to see

him. Catch him here around the 16th

Bowl. Go ahead and play it here.

What? Diggin could posit.

Right there. We just miss him.

Yeah, that's it. Passed.

And we also saw. Here's a son is 22 into Tyler.

Hit them with the whip. I mean, come on.

Didn't have to do that man. Now we've got the better horse.

All of us can see, he has a better horse.

He leans to his left and he didn't you to do it.

The horse was on his good lead. He's definitely.

That's right there. Like what?

So it doesn't photo lots of Reform, no question, he lost the

race, you can turn off, great. So 15 days suspension, lots of

commentary that it should have been longer.

I'm not an expert in suspensions.

I 15 days seems a lot that's a lot of raised days but you know,

had they gone 30, I would not have been mad photos, come out,

you know, and frankly, The reaction on Twitter was.

Was predictable and understandable, there was no

need to defend Leon in that situation.

The slipping saddle, excuse is not a real one, and it's too bad

because that was the chance for us to have that Derby winner who

paid a hundred and sixty dollars or whatever, come back and win

against older horses against a good, a good field man.

Happy saver art collector, hot rod Charlie, Good horses in that

field. What I mean is there some legit?

I mean legitimate absolutely there's a great one winners in

that in that Field, especially after how here all he has to do

is ride it out. All he has to do is shake the

reins of ride it out. He don't have to hit the horse.

He has to have to lean his it through anything, he just has to

go do it. And it's almost as though, the

moment was too big here for some reason, and it's a shame.

And after that, by the way, I want to defend someone that Mike

and I have known for a number of years now, The picture of the of

the Horseshoe on hot rod Charlie that came out after that, there

were people accusing the track photographer at Churchill Downs.

Curtis Cody of doctoring that photo or if someone doctoring

that photo, let me just say that ridiculous completely ridiculous

and and Way Beyond the pale and something that I will not accept

as an argument that he's not theirs.

I'm sorry. It is a terrible thing that

people would allege that he would even be close to involved

in something like And so I wanted to start there.

The second part is, I don't know what's from what I brought up

that I assumed horseshoes were inspected in The Paddock,

apparently, they're not at Churchill Downs in Kentucky.

I didn't know that. I mean, I'm not jumping to any

conclusions on a photograph like that.

From that distance, I will jump to conclusions about Sunny

Leone, elbowing Tyler, who laughed at him as they crossed

the Finish Line first because he had screwed up the ride.

And so I think all of those things together, it's just a

shame because frankly it would have been Some to have Rich

strike win in that spot. It just would have been.

It would have been great to have him validate his spot and then

say, hey, we're going to go believe.

We're gonna go be the closer in the classic that picks off.

Third place picks off, you know, place, you know.

Oh, maybe we, maybe we push flight line.

Now, he's probably going to find out if I have it, right?

But, you know, makes it interesting for him in that

field. And instead, we have to talk

about this and I just don't think you can put Sunny Leone on

him and the Breeders Cup, I don't think it's okay.

And it's really A shame because that was, he was there.

If they just ride him out, if they just hand, write him out.

He wins. And let's also remember that

after the Derby he was suspended for days or careless riding.

I was just went in, in May that was his forced to Fourth

suspension. In six months are no eight

months since the previous September.

And so, I mean, you know, I think we're getting Riders get

suspended. That's part of it.

I mean, it's part of the sport. I mean, I get it but we're

talking about, this is such a blatant one and you don't have

to say anything after the race when you Who make excuses

immediately are people that are guilty generally speaking.

And so he didn't have to say anything after the race.

The fact that he did points to me that that it was not above

board and so I won't hear that excuse.

I also won't hear doctored photo allegations and so I'm on the

side of Tyler's reaction is the real reaction which is come on,

man. Why did you even lean into me?

You had the better horse, right? Yeah, so I think we'll see him

in the Clark, Rich strike. I've heard Breeders Cup man,

yeah we'll see. I think Clark makes unbelievable

sense for him, though. I agree with ya.

So, all right. Well let's move on, but let's

move on and we'll talk about your your lung shot longer.

Thank you. Wouldn't like a super launch?

Nobody's gonna fit a 6 to 1 in this race?

Yeah, yeah, I mean, we're not like double-digit like that.

So, pulling off the. It was a 2-1 morning line and

all I said about him was, you know, I think this is a horse.

He's been there. He just had a bullet work at

Churchill. They had him on the track for a

month and it all came together here.

Go ahead, Zack. Who heads our then, it'll go to.

But I mean, essentially senior Busca door.

I said if it gets too it's too fast out front next by.

Yes, and you talk over this thing.

It's a bucket, is that kill this?

So the Zach stop there. Yeah, this isn't, this isn't

what we wanted. I don't know why this popped up

is the savior boosted or thing, or maybe it would pass, but

essentially, I said, if he got to, if it got too fast out

front, For whatever reason, just go ahead and say, your blues

guitar has that kind of closing Speedy reminded me a little bit

of bezel, one kind of closing speed in this in this race.

He had one at a mile before, it'll be interesting because I

think with a horse like that, you have to take the shot of

the, my lat Breeders Cup just for the check, but it's two

turns, he's not to turn horse and so it's interesting how

track to track these things change.

And I don't know how you feel about it, Mike but do you?

I understand why they have the dirt mile.

Do you think it dilutes the classic field most years?

I mean, I think again, I just go back to this horses having to

make choices and I think that's always kind of the fun thing for

me to watch as they kind of see who goes where and it kind of in

some ways when I was caught, when I was really hot and heavy

in the basketball recruiting World.

Sure you're sitting back and you're watching like, okay, you

know, that this kids going to make their decision based off

what this kid does and you're watching all these moving Parts

kind of happen. And, you know, and I probably

equate that a little bit too much.

Of kind of reading the tea leaves.

So I think it always adds this just interesting Intrigue to it.

Now, I will say that, you know, you and I we haven't shot away

from the fact that the classic Fields the last couple years

have not really done much for me.

This classic field obviously with flight line is any reason

flight line and it's too bad because the the meat the meat of

it behind him is very good. Yeah I did see something.

You know, come out where they lose, someone said well they

felt like epicenter was by far and away the second best horse

in that race and I don't know if that's legit or not, I think the

fight for peace. It may be right.

I think the fight for the second best horse in that race could be

pretty amazing and I think there's but I think there's a

legit Choice like do you go for that more than likely second

place? Purse money which is still

pretty solid or do you go for that dirt?

While it does. It does it change your ability

in the breeding shed to say? I've got a Breeders Cup winner.

Verse I had to go someplace. Yeah I think with a horse like

epicenter for example you run them in the classic because he's

already won the Traverse, right? I think that he's proven himself

amongst three year olds. You know, if he finishes second

and everyone go people who are in the breeding world aren't

dumb, they'll know that flight that flight line was in that

race and finishing second meant that he was the best of the rest

of the crop. Right?

And so there's no shame in that. The other part is, you know, I

got a text from from like Mills are guy in Texas and he was

like, hey man, just throwing it out there.

What about Le true scope for the dirt mile?

Hmm. And I love that.

It was, it was an angle, I hadn't thought about she is a

get out front, stay out front type in if she doesn't have to

go Go. The mile and an eighth distaff

distance in that cult in that group.

She might be the best Miler over to turns in the group,

especially if she gets a good draw.

She gets a first for kind of post.

I would think about that, really seriously?

If I were faster Gutierrez run against the guys, do it in the

mile and and just figure out if she's able to do that because it

won't be like she's confused. She's used to running to turns,

right. It'll just be a shorter run up

to the first turn. Then she's used to and

essentially, you know, if she's able to pick just get out front,

stale, front-run, 23 and change. Whatever it is.

I think she can be a serious Contender.

It was a great text message to get for my kids.

So I'm glad to be able to bring that to are but I You know, if

your life is gonna have Mike on the show more often, by the way.

Thanks. Oh yeah, absolutely.

I thought it was really good. Our anniversary special.

I like them. I like to have them on.

Well, I like Mike in general, but yes.

How do you do it? So, Mike, you're welcome to get

those shots at the Panic before they completely just torque

down. Looks, so it's there have been

construction over at Churchill Downs, right now.

It's so it's pretty rough. But, but no, I, lots of options

here. We talked about it before by.

He decided not to run here, but to run it.

He was going to run in France when I was going to run back in

a tasket and so you know not having him come for Breeders

Cup, open up the turf a little bit more.

We'll have our guy James while Shawn before, by the way, for

some Breeders Cup coverage before we get into all that but

I you know that opened up that filled the distaff field feels

wide. Open could a horse like

liszewski switch, classes do something different, my senses

do run during the distaff I get it.

But if if I'm in ownership there, if I'm Pastor Gutierrez,

the trainer I'm thinking about thinking about the mile.

All right. I don't want to like this is not

really on the show sheet but we got it.

I do think we just got to mention that.

Life is good. Did exactly what we thought life

is good was going to do and and Maiden won by five lengths or

anything. But I was the closer it would

but it was sloppy and whatever. I mean like 343 now on and off

track. So that horse good on all

surfaces as far as excuse me all you know, dry wet, whatever for

dirt surfaces. And so hopefully, you know,

right. A 113 Echo base speaker by the

way. Oh, darn it.

So yeah, no nice horse for sure. And now I want to talk Here with

the awesome again is even though I know the odds, don't say it is

defunded beating Country. Grammar a bigger upset than

senior biscuit or beating injunction oh and John Chen.

Yes. No the senior boosted or field

was less was lesser than this to funded beating Country Grammar.

No because country grammars attend for a long horse.

Not a 9. Okay.

Yeah it just it is what he actually did.

I think that's felt like a bigger I feel like this agree

with I'm just because I picked Country Grammar and not sure to

find it and not and not to funded.

And I said, I think Susan, your bruschetta is super live in that

race. Um, yeah, I'll agree with you on

that. Yeah.

Why do I by the way for defunded sometimes you get off on staff.

Right? Right.

I mean that's That old adage for sure.

Especially when we talk about a logger Turf races in those sorts

of things. But no, it was good.

Nice, the biggest job, I defunded for sure, I think for

me the thing that I was really more interested in this race is

that, you know, Royal ship did, what royal ship usually does

where we reposition himself, but just had no clothes in him

whatsoever in this race. So, let's go ahead and roll

roll. What we got right here, so it's

still three and a half off. Slow down, Andy moves in on

defunded slow down. Andy the new leader at the top

of the stretch defunded trying to battle back and Country.

Grammar three off the pace with a furlong left to go, defunded

digging down, deep trying to turn away slow down and he's

back in front of length and a half Country Grammar grinding

away on the outside defunded to lengthly.

Are we lost the funded under Edwin, all mellow?

And when Maldonado, that was my favorite part of the weekend.

I'll monado the old Yule Deadwood almond but no nice ride

by Maldonado. By the way, I mean, sometimes

rating those horses for that. It's interesting, sometimes too.

When they get past, you know, when a slow down Andy who's been

a nice three-year-old, by the way, comes up and passes the

horse. Sometimes was FrontRunner see a

horse in front of them and go. Yeah, never mind.

And it does a good job gets him to immediately switch leads.

And he re kicks in takes the lead back and finish a strong.

I mean, Country Grammar is finishing strong at the end

there. He's not going to have that

opportunity is going to be very similar to the track layout at

at Keeneland. So I think, I think Country

Grammar is kind of a toss in the evenin.

The exact for the, for the classic.

Hate to say that because I really you know, how I feel

about Country. Grammar I thought these are fine

horse. I really like him but I think

it's awesome. Even for the exact in the

classic, all right? And then we're going to go onto

the champagne stakes and again, we was a little wet out there at

the big a, but we had another kind of longer shot with a to

have to one with blazing sevens. Flavian Pratt aboard here and

gets the victory with his closing effort, beating the

favorite Gulfport, who finished third and verifying coming in

second. Go forward those out.

The Baptist top reproved Andiamo offer ends a takes the

two-year-old to the top of the stretch in front here by like

that on the outside verifying down towards the round three

quarters in 1911 and four on the other forensic challenged on the

inside by verifying on the outside by Gulfport.

And here comes blazing sevens out in the middle of the track

as they come down for the 16th hole here is placing seventh

verifying is there at Gulfport but it is Blazing sevens to pull

off the upset in the grade one champagne.

Because we also liked Andiamo friends and I race you just to

me was just pushed out a little too far on that.

It's Quinn, just quit. Yeah, so it happens right to

your old racist, man. And so, you know, my sequence in

the sheath this week has a couple two-year-old races in it

and guess what? We're spreading in those legs.

So the it's a It is a wide-open two-year-old class coming into

Breeders Cup Friday, but what do we say every year?

Mike, it's a pretty wide open to your own class.

I mean, the last time we really had a two-year-old single, I

think was Golden Palace print on the turf right as friends,

right? Yeah.

And so it's, it's a, it's going to be open for both the, the

Juvenile and for the juvenile fillies and I think the Surfside

will be the same thing. It'll be interesting this

weekend because what are the good things about the first

weekend at Keeneland is that they do, run these BC, win and

ends. And so the horses get a feel of

The course itself, right? That grass course the dirt

course at Keeneland if they like it.

That's a great thing. We can kind of hope that that's

a predictor for what's to come in the same way that when we go

back, west coast of Santa Anita actually, the American pharoah,

which is going to run on Saturday, could be a good

predictor for what those horses will do come Breeders Cup Friday

next year. And so yeah, I don't know that

we learned a lot in that race because it wasn't off track.

It was at Aqueduct. How does that translate to

Keeneland? The answer is TBD for sure.

But no, there's nothing wrong, especially in that company,

those were horses, all of them that one in high-level races at

Saratoga. And so, there's nothing wrong

with winning by open legs like that.

We've watched father, and Pratt turn into a very fine East

Coast, jockey following his form on the west coast.

And so no reason to think that that horse could show up on

Breeders Cup Friday, be be a factor.

All right, so good stuff right there.

Louis are we? Are we, are we?

Are we going to have any special guests?

He would have. I emailed him.

He would have logged on if he was going to be special.

Okay. I guess not, we did have some

guests lined up by the way. And what we do we have another

one that will jump on something happens, text him and see what

he's up to. Yeah, I think for having the

other special guests on a little early would would be good.

It's not really, I'm right here bike Zach.

We're not talking about you. so, I think another thing that I

thought about doing was just a kind of a general chat of where

we are with the different groups and I for the Breeders Cup, one

of the things that's that's fun about this coming weekend, is

with the Breeders Cup at Keeneland and the win it ends

and you know, tomorrow Friday and Saturday You get a more

clear picture of who's, who's at the top of the class.

If we get a bunch of horses in these races that people are

going to know. And so, you know, on Friday,

you're going to get a lot of the Filly and Mare and then on

Saturday you're going to get a bunch of the cult and older

horse sort of field. So for example, I love a horse

in the Breeders fraternity. That's 10 to 1.

We'll talk about it later in handicapping section, but that's

what the two-year-old races are about.

Go find that value. Go find those horses that have

wild. You Mike's going to laugh at me

because it's a horse that I got to see.

Person. I'm always just that yes Louie

does that we just do that but like for example like the as far

as the the race is that we're really going to look at here and

I do lots of different handicap things like to make sure that I

keep these things in mind but like the Phoenix tomorrow at

Keeneland is a 64 a long race for three and up and it's open

field over six furlongs. How do how do horses take to

that track? And I think Mike and I can speak

to this. We were there in 2020.

The depth of the track at the beginning of this Keeneland meet

and what it's going to be for Breeders, Cup are going to be

very different things, right? It's going to be deeper.

Now, it's going to be, I don't want to call it a parking lot of

Keeneland. But man, when we at War one,

that one, that one, that spread it was, I mean when authentic

got all fronts take off from the classic it was it was not not a

deep dirt course, it just wasn't right and I think the turf

course at Keeneland is always Fair.

Yeah. Right horses when it Keeneland.

I think that's a very fair thing to say and so that's not very

question. It's just how Is that dirt

course, play this weekend compared to what we're going to

see at the beginning of November and so but I wouldn't hold it

against any horse that shows up. Well, this weekend, for example,

right? I think that if someone shows up

at the Phoenix or the Judgment or the alcibiades tomorrow,

really, really well great, that's awesome.

Especially if they show up in that Jessamine over the turf

course. 42 year old Phillies interesting part of the year to

Mike as we get into both the to turn races, heavy to turn races

for the two-year-olds and then the three and up season, right?

We've essentially We're fully into a full month in two, three

and up. Season is there, do we have a

hashtag 3 and up citizen? Is that a thing that we have?

I doubt it very much but oh wait a minute we got a special guest.

We do. Absolutely guess there he is,

there he is. All right, stretch out.

See my blue glasses. Oh Dad.

How are you? That is a that is a grandpa

shirt if I've ever seen one. Absolutely I'd wear them.

Ha ha, I can unbutton it. Yeah, basketball school.

Come get some. That's right. 60's today by the

way, so we'll see how that goes. I want to get into that right

now because Dad and I are going to talk about it tomorrow.

If anyone is listening, danis will Hall of Famer.

Just joined us Dan and I do a show 10 to noon every day, Dan

and I yelled at each other today, and I stopped the

Camellia each other about steroids in baseball and so

yeah, no, not a problem. I want to know that take too, by

the way. Okay, we can do it again and I

said, Dan, I told I so disagree with you that we should stop

having the conversation and then our text line, God bless them

was like Hey wuss, have the conversation?

I've got the conversation. All right, and so we got back

into it. Um, I horse racing is the kind

of the same deal right now, right?

So I mean, it's maybe, um, so I don't want to do the horse

racing side, just the baseball side because we did it earlier

today. Essentially my opinion is that I

Assume everyone's trying to gain an advantage.

In everything. Frankly I don't trust anyone

especially in sports to do anything.

You know, I thought about this later today.

Dan, I think one of the reasons you have this take is because

you were clean. Yeah.

And.and youryour, drugs of choice.

Where Budweiser and Budweiser, I mean like yeah Lily, I've told

you before I saw Mitch so many whoa.

Whoa, I thought we were sober October.

Yeah, I kind of called it a night.

I have been we got here to tell me these things so I can call

him out of that stuff. Now we got a we got a sponsor so

I know you're you're talking about, right?

No, no, you know, I've told you this before I saw it.

Many careers ruined during my playing days.

I have never had a marijuana cigarette.

Touch, not only person in Denver Colorado.

Oh, you don't have to have a touch your lips.

You just have to go to go outside.

That's right, just take the contact high but that but

essentially, you know, with Aaron judge breaking the record,

I don't. And Dan will tell you this.

I celebrated it, I think it's absolutely the American League

record, whatever, like good for him.

I'm happy it happened. And in a time where I was

watching baseball the last one was 61 years ago.

But I still think of bonds as the Home Run champion and I know

that that is it's not a popular take I still think of bonds as a

way better hitter than Arron judge.

I think Aaron judge I would love to know this actually I don't

know what Dan because you you think are Judges better hitter

than Barry Bonds given that were each given that where he is in

his career. I mean I don't want to like

Aaron judge hitting C1 and 62 home runs is amazing, but doing

it in a fight for the Triple Crown is even more so where he's

hitting for average and hitting that amount of home runs.

Sure. And I think he's a freak and

bonds was good young in his career.

Obviously, it was a completely different body shaped kind of

but when he was with the Pirates, but I don't know if he

would have been capable of something like that.

Of course, longevity is going to play on.

That's where the steroids really help out in the.

It's giving that longevity and I'd also I feel like it's a

little unfortunate because I do think it takes away from some of

the amazing things that we're getting from Albert Pujols right

now. Hmm.

And that is not being talked about and I'm a like, I'm a

baseball horse racing guy, right?

So baseball to me is like, and I hate the Cardinals with a

passion because I'm sure that's fan.

Yeah, right. Damn Hunter losses.

Let's go hunter lost for the second time in franchise

history. Right.

But I just the see what Pujols has been able to pull off.

Of in and be mentioned with absolute, Legends is incredible.

And you know, like I'm not you think, you think Pujols was

clean? Man, I just asking, I'm just

asking that a guy. My age is crushing home runs.

I'm just asking, you know, given the time when he came into the

league and he came in young and you would have had, I would have

just had to think that, like, they started cracking down so

heavily when he came down the league, but then, when you start

seeing guys, have that kind of longevity, you got you start to

wonder, you know, I, I would, I would wonder more about Pujols

and I would about Aaron, judge my argument, with my argument

with Louis, Was not that bonds was not a great hitter.

My argument has without the steroids, he never would have

hit the ball over the fence 73 times.

And so, as he why ya, he completely became a different

player. Record is the recognizable home,

run record. I don't disagree with you Dan,

and, and you also have to take into account.

Look how look how baseball is dominating.

I made this argument with Louis this morning, The Cubs who are

have been my favorite team. Since I was old enough to know

what baseball was have a shortstop name.

Nico Horner, who hit 281 282, excuse me, yeah, 281 decent.

Top 10 National League batting average has said, I mean, it's

just the, by the way. The only thing I didn't say to

you today, Dan was remember like, five years ago, they were

talking about putting balls in humidors.

Is too many guys were hitting home runs.

Yeah, I've years ago and how that's completely shifted to the

pictures within five years and I said on the show, I expect

within five years, we'll be back to the hitters catching up by

the way, bonds us average in 2001, when he hit the seventy

three home runs was 328, his on-base percentage was 5:15.

And so to me, it is more his Acumen in the strike zone than

anything else. Incredible.

Yeah. Right.

And Dan and I, what's funny is, I like to actually, I

appreciated that the text line was like, no, no, you don't get

to walk away from this conversation which was good.

For me because Dan, and I find out.

We agree on a bunch of stuff by the end of that conversation

which was like the ship should be totally legal and the idea

that like that, that you should decide before the play

arbitrarily on where second base is where guys can stand is

completely ludicrous and so kind of but mean just put down the

bunt, those guys put down with that stance argument.

I gave them exactly. Don't stand up there and just

continue to hit in the shift, adjust your game.

Let them let them put everybody over on that side.

You hit it to that side. I will say one of the greatest

sports moments of my life was watching.

Barry Bonds get walked with Bases Loaded.

You know and I think it was a great moment.

I just remember thinking I'm never gonna see this again and

this is kind of where blowing I will different just because like

were our age will show up. I miss what the Golden Era of

baseball when I ran the Home Run was dead.

Like they're you know it was her there was not a lot of home runs

but we got we had base Stealers which we don't see any More like

you did. Vince Coleman Rickey Henderson

talking about this today. I'm rains.

Yeah, that was fun and exciting baseball because you got

something on first base he's going to take second and yeah

you got to remember man. I came by 100.

What when I was coming up? My dad and I would always go to

Montreal in the summer and I watched Vladimir Guerrero hit 30

home runs and stole 30 bases. A bunch of times.

Like I loved him as he still my favorite baseball player of all

time. Just that I got to see and I

said look I got to see Tony Gwynn a bunch, just randomly by

schedule accident in in Montreal.

And then I saw each Play a bunch of games in Detroit.

I'd rather watch those guys at home run hitters that part of

the games crafts. Majestic there, Crusher.

And just I mean Ichiro, especially just I just remember

playing baseball. The idea of like moving within

the batter's box to try to hit the ball.

I could never do that. I mean, well, you know, it's

kind of fun because you take that timeframe of baseball and

we'll get back to. Now you're gonna things but a

guy like Kirby, Puckett was he such a Dom, I hated that guy.

So good. Yeah and he would, he was such a

like he was a great hitter them but you he was overshadowed.

Towed by guys, like George Breton, Tony Gwynn and Wade,

Boggs, and just won two titles and four years, man.

I don't know that he was over. Yeah.

All right, what-whatever horse here though.

That's why we were going to talk about.

And I've always said, Dan has three kids, his daughter, his

son and Keeneland, excited to get going.

Here we go. All right, listen, I'm not going

to back down by the way, that by my, by my statement, because of

to me, it's no doubt about it. That Kentucky was better than

Ole Miss, because Kentucky played like absolute crap.

They beat themselves and if they would have shown up, they would

have beat Ole Miss by double digits.

And anyway, I that game frustrated me to no end, but

the, I can't imagine, there was a huge Silver Lining.

Be like, we can play that bad on the road and give the game away

and only, and still beat the spread this Kentucky team.

If, you know, I, if they figure it out that they figure it out,

it's going to get better defensively.

They're there. The defensively.

They're pretty freaking amazing. I took the opposite, which was

that Mark, Stoops need to go get a different job.

Yeah. Okay.

Keep going. All right Dan because I don't

know if I'm gonna I don't know if I'm gonna be able to join you

guys tomorrow. That's why they had to get my

piece right now. We lost Patty Ice tomorrow too.

So I got oh well it's this would be maybe I'll let me see if I

can work it out. I got it figured out.

All right, all right, let's get onto some horse agent.

Let's talk some Keeneland, Dan Issel, third child Keeneland.

So are you gonna be out there at all this meat before the

Breeders Cup? Yes.

We're coming in, were coming in the last week.

I'm taking Louis. I'm going to take Louie.

Louie. Kristen are going to have a

Keeneland experience, and I'm going to show him and turn him.

I'm going to show him what Keith best, the best track in the

country. I ordered a green jacket so that

I don't have to pay admission. Oh man.

All right, all right, that's enough.

All right, I'm gonna dress as a rock, we're going to do a very

Keeneland thing and we're going to do something.

We don't do on the show very often, and we're going to talk

about stakes races on Day. So, All right, opening weekend

and Caitlyn is loaded and it's know.

It is every year the Friday Saturday cards are awesome too

late sequences. Both days are awesome.

Keeneland is one of the few places for example on Saturday

that has a pick five that starts six races before the beginning

and they just say, we do you want to bet the stakes?

So the the all the pick five is all six pick five?

No no I appreciate that about Caitlyn for sure.

The first we're going to, we're going to kick it off with the

pick for we're going to start, which by the way.

What's your Green Sheet sequence?

It'll be on Saturday. It's the all Stakes.

Pick five on Saturday. Okay, we're going to go to race

seven, which is the grade to I'm sorry.

I was looking at Friday, this am I, doing, what am I, what's the

top thing on there, than Louis? What am I looking at there?

I'm sorry, you had it, you just have to worry.

Okay, I got you the great to Stoll, keenon qian keenon Ogden

Phoenix, which is Six, furlongs. On the door, I'm having trouble

pronouncing words by Mike. Do you know what?

Stoll keenon Ogden is Why do a breeder I have given?

I was gonna say I've given that a lot of the law firm thousand

dollars in his Law Firm. That's right.

Oh geez. We need to get a Louis Dan and

Mike steaks and Kima. We are Churchill or something

that is silk and awful and Robo. So I'm last on that.

Okay, that just checking. Yeah, well it's because of the

robo just kind of hits, you know, really really like hammers

it home. I mean, as long as I'm hitting,

yeah, okay. Alright, the Stoll keenon.

In Phoenix, which I'm glad, I don't know what that is.

Dan six furlongs on the Dirt 3 year olds and up three hundred

fifty thousand dollars online for the Sprint.

Race will Louis, I'm gonna let you start first because I don't

know. Dan is there, Dan?

Are you ready to go with these pixel?

He's ready. No II, texted, I belong.

Okay, I stay ready. Okay.

All right. All right.

All right, I want to point out that sir, Alfred James is

running for the 16th time this year that which is unheard that

horse shows up, Every freaking time, he's ready.

Every time they don't work him out, they just put about and

stakes races. This horse is awesome six year

old gelding over, three-quarters of a million dollars in

earnings. He's not going to win this race,

I'm glad he's there, you know? I Dan, I kind of settled.

I'm a little chalky here. I'm wondering, you know, if

sibelius who's won over the track before.

Can come back and win again. Want to Pimlico last time out in

a listed Stakes, one in at Saratoga by very open links

here, Love that they're flying in junior Alvarado for this

ride. It's interesting.

He's had a very mixed up here where he's doing, naira.

He's doing Kentucky stuff, and I made the argument last week,

Dan, I think that's the kind of guy that could come to Kentucky

and really have no doubt. You're right.

I'm your round, yeah. Or at least 42 of the seasons,

whatever it is, right? I mean, just run, you know, that

Churchill spring meet, you know, slide into the, you know, even

if he has to slide out of the ls, meet whatever it looks like.

I mean, he just He's the kind of guy that would get serious

mounted at Churchill and so I have him on top, you know, the

speed figures speak for themselves.

I think that Jeremy Jeremy O'Dwyer for example, is a Sprint

trainer has never won a graded Stakes.

So this is I'm kind of just rooting for someone here, but I

think the sibelius is a serious Contender here.

Randall 109, at Pimlico last time públicos.

Dirt course. For Sprint's is a really good

predictor of success. In other places, that doesn't

always happen with those sorts of things.

But you and I have talked about like the chick Lang.

For example, Dan. That's Great predictor of future

success success. And so, he's coming out of that

neck or Islands in this race that horse has already run.

Nine times this year is an intact horse.

Actually, five years old has run back-to-back. 90 speed figures

both here at, Churchill in that, in that level Thoroughbred

Society with France, Francisco arietta who gets them out again.

I think he's on the come up here man.

And so I'm looking at the six as well.

And then the favorite here is Special Reserve.

I really don't know a lot about this horse because I don't watch

Mountaineer races. And last time I watched him was

in The mud at Laurel, we're gonna have a really dry track

here at Keeneland, so I'll be interested to see what he does.

He does have a one-on-one speed figure over the track before and

is 17 to 16 times at this distance.

I'm a little chalky here. Dan where did you fall?

I hold on. Let's go.

Before we go baby. We got we got aren't Mandela

star. Here is our city are all

perfect. Yeah, I apologize.

Can you hear me? Okay, apologize for being a

little late. I had an alarm set that.

My technology just doesn't work tonight.

There will be a fine involved Ellis.

You are next to Dan Issel, UK, great.

And you're here with me and Mike hanging out.

How are you tonight? I'm doing great.

I'm getting a little feedback. Is that me?

Or is that I think it could be coming from you but I'm not 100%

sure. Yep, it's got definitely you're

muted yourself there. So it's it doesn't sound too,

too bad on our own. It's just a little bit of a hum

in the background. We don't hear you at all else,

so you got to unmute it. So so Dan you were going on?

What were what were your pics here in this race.

We we're starting with my pick of the weekend, okay?

So Billy Sebelius roles here. Okay, Special Reserve won this

race last year, but He had he didn't want to come out here.

If this is a legitimate grade 2 horse still maker, doesn't ship

him to Mountaineer to run in a 75,000 race.

Sebelius for all the reasons that Louis said, up-and-coming

141, at Keeneland improving buyer figures and he blew out at

the Thoroughbred for training. Center in 34 flat which is this.

This is my bed of the weekend, so, bilious.

I love it. Okay.

Are we going to get some pics here from else?

Or else has taken a very other? I got all my technology is

working. So great though.

All right, good. All right.

The feedback is gone now. Yeah, me to it and have all all

trades here to pick the horses like this.

But, yes, it really is kind of sticks out.

This is, we could do a webinar today.

I can't remember it. We do you think and talked about

this horse quite a bit? It's just very interesting, the

way he improved, even though he was good with blinkers, four

races back. And the last two Junior Alvarado

seems to really get the most out of him and he's 52 2 versus

Special Reserve to 21. I would hope that holds up.

It would be very nice to get it in terms of odds because it's

not just about the best horse. Of course, it's also about

getting some value. What you think I have and I

wouldn't buy them. At 625 but I would bet him at

1:55 for sure Necker Island Manawa.

Both got a shot, Manny was kind of interesting because way back

in his PPS and one of the things I use it with our race lens

product which is what you see lifetime PPS way back on that

way back but an October 2016 to 2020 at Keeneland anyway I ran a

race that at least comparing speed figures to kind of

normalize against was a 1/16 Billy's got a 113 last time out,

Special Reserve, one sir. He last year winning this race.

So many was interesting at eight to one.

I think is a horse using Exotics in the race.

Yeah, we know, you know course, many Waldo also over 80 and 20,

22 and just wondered kind of what happens on that front, but

I kind of look at this race where you got the up, and under

cover and sibelius it at 14. Races lifetime is lightly run,

compared to this crowd and this is like this is like the

Old-Timers Day at the track or whatever else.

I mean they're pulling in some horses that have had significant

track experience but But everyone seems to be on the way

down as sebelius's. Coming on the way up.

So it's interesting. You know what?

Yeah, for right, only 24 year olds and raised, so he may have

not run his best race yet. Yeah, it's interesting to, you

know, so Ellis stars with us and I should point out, we should

fully introduce them into the show a tuber Capper on Twitter.

If you want to go find him. They're all of this stuff at

Keeneland as well on like some fireworks.

Okay, you're good. I love this show.

I love that. He's guy.

Maybe Yoda not more of them to say.

Okay, okay. I appreciate all of the things

that are happening right now. Exactly.

Ellis there. Ellis.

What? Percentage of the time that you

go to the track? Do you wear a hat?

Well, I can. I wear it every day.

Okay. You know, that's the way that

people know me because that's my Twitter handle.

So I was very worried when you came on without a hat that it

wasn't actually you, it was your brother or something.

Yeah, right. Okay.

Well, good, L star. Like I said, Uber Capper on

Twitter, go find his stuff and Aquila.com of course.

All right, we're going to move on to race eight, which is the

JPMorgan Chase Jessamine. It's a great to 350,000 our race

and it's for Phillies two year, olds and up.

And I always find this interesting.

When we have new people in the show else, I'm going to ask you

this question. What how do you when you get

these higher-level two-year-old races?

That are, there's just such limited information.

What is your go-to? That you look to when you

handicap a two-year-old race. Well, I mean this is this a

turtle race and I'm not trying to avoid the question.

Any means it's a little more complicated than the simple

answer. These are horses run a couple

times and yeah once you get that an early three year olds, you're

looking for improvement and these are athletes.

So with this kind of race, a couple things Is How They Run.

Two turns out they run on Turf, are they improving?

Weather its position improving your running faster basis versus

speed figures. So this when you get erased,

it's this good and believe me this race, the alcibiades, the

Breeders Futurity with 12 and forth.

This is kidney candy store stuff.

I mean, this is good. This is Breeders Cup prep

because you're not going to have these kinds of fields except for

these kinds of races. And so again, it is to you'll

Race but there are two year old Maiden races allowance races.

Those are little different. Once I get to this level, it's

just okay for three or four or five horses are going to

improve. Which one can improve more?

What's the one? The public might not see coming

and there's various ways to hit it.

So I mean, Just to jump into and you don't ask for picture.

I'm say give example is the horse I'm going to pick which is

have a Lenka. Yeah it was on the rail of ten

to one and there's nothing special about sampling compared

to the other horses. But she's been on Turf twice.

She ran second and first he's improving and she's got a

trainer that a lot of y'all and heard of the I hadn't heard of,

I mean it seemed the name on the Kentucky Circuit with Beckman,

his name is B column width and I couldn't remember He came up

with and Christina blackard help me out earlier.

Today said, he worked for Pletcher for years before yours

and so, this is going to be another guy like Braun that came

out of the Pletcher mentorship. I mean, unbelievable.

He it out of a Lucas tree, right?

I mean, frankly. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, that's right. Back that giant family tree.

Yeah. But Beckman show. 64 44 on the

year, but he's 448 last 90 days. He's just starting to really

catch fire. Now, Now and this is example of

this Improvement is to ask your question to the question, kind

of like, it's with your braces, it's improvement improvement and

more Improvement and then figuring out which one might

improve more love it. Okay.

What is the site we have to watch for every year to is how

do horses come out of Kentucky Downs, right?

Different. It seems different year-to-year

Ellis and so I've been impressed actually performance to

performance at the Churchill need in September.

Especially those Kentucky down sources, actually came out

pretty well. Yeah, well because of big fields

and it's the same as Saratoga, you get harassed and you also

have feels horses. It competing in 40.

Northfields this was a 9 and I watched the video of the race

again. I remember I think I saw it live

but she battled the last for those who don't know.

Kentucky down some key folks. To Kentucky announced the

stretch is basically 5/16 of a mile.

Yeah, she goes on forever, right?

And she got hooked up and she battled the last three

sixteenths, head and head and she would not let the other

horse buyers. So it was pretty, it was pretty

impressive in terms of mental. Toughest back to your

two-year-old thing. Yeah.

You if you have a chance to watch videos and say, Yes, how's

the light bulb going on? I mean, are they understanding

what they need to do? A lot of them.

Don't get it for quite a while. Hmm.

All right, so we got your pick. Is the one anybody else stand

out to you in this field before we move on to mr.

Issa. It's a 13 tax implications gets

in. That's the other wind main when

Contender for me. I think happy yells got a shot,

knockers go ahead and I'll get back there to knock your socks

off in one second that don't want to know.

Awful eyes, of course, but tax implications for Chad Brown.

If she gets in very impressive. First time out of the mile 1 by

7, Chad Brown for those that are not too long.

Not too far away. Russian troll rushing fall 2017.

Chad Browns, off a tremendous Maiden win and he's trying to

repeat that again. So, this could be another

rushing fall for him. Long shot.

Knock your socks off. Absolutely, going to bed.

A couple bucks to win. Maybe when Place using some

exotic. When a colonial Mi first time

out, not a good effort to Kentucky Downs.

But that was the day that started to rain and it rained.

And they canceled the last three races, and they completely took

the next day off, and the course was a bog and she moved up from

8th to third. I don't do a lot of pedigree

stuff, but when I look and I see a dams had some winners I check

who it is. Knockers the only other main

full of this dam is a horse named Bob and Jackie, which some

folks may have heard of me. Not mostly Man of the West Coast

Bob and Jackie was first or second and 10 of 17 on grass or

and a half a million bucks and flattering perhaps writing this

32 one shot. So that's my long shot thing.

All right mr. Itzel if you don't stop calling

me. Listen, you grew up in Kentucky,

you respect a guy like, you know, I will call you Dan.

He'll stop coming up the show. Dr. All right, Dan I'm going

with towhead, this has got to be the unluckiest.

Horse in America. She went she wins a maiden at

Saratoga and they make it a no wedding card wagering event

because they couldn't get the Starting Gate off of the off of

the course and a zealous just said, as she ran second to chop

chop who I like in the alcibiades in a driving

rainstorm and she her nose in a 500,000 dollar race.

So I'm going to say is finally told.

It's genius. A couple others that I looked at

in here. Bling G Watts.

Humphrey! Look like that.

Filly, really woke up American pharoah out of a fort learner.

Mayor shouldn't be a distant, shouldn't be a problem.

American Pharoah's are running great on the grass.

She really woke up that Turf race and I'm a little intrigued

by blind spot and now she's never been on the grass but

she's out of a boundary mayor. So that shouldn't bother her.

And and as the distance distances get longer she seems

to get better. So those are my three.

That the three that caught my attention.

Yeah I with Ellis here, by the way, I think tax implications.

By the way that horse, trough said you have to use it.

It's a no brainer there. I think the connections number

one and just that that Monmouth one mile on the turf, just makes

a ton of sense in this spot because it just for the distance

for all the That you have to do at that track, it just makes a

ton of sense. I couldn't really come up with a

bunch of horses that I love here.

I'm interested in a horse, like, recognize the 9 Jr of arado.

For Bill Mott who wins third time up in?

You know third time out, I should say in a maiden comes

back and it listed Stakes. Runs runs Third, Kind of up the

track a little bit, a couple open legs.

Can that horse could bounce back?

I think a lot of Junior Alvarado.

So, I think that's a kind of horse that can hit the board

here. God bless these two horsies to

you. Old racist because frankly, you

could get a lot of value here, but I'll just mention those two.

So, two years ago, we saw Aunt Pearl when this race and then

come back and win that Breeders Cup juvenile fillies.

And if I remember Louis, that was one of the most impressive

rides in that juvenile day. It was awesome.

It was awesome. And then, of course, the mm

Pearl really never did anything after that Grandeur.

What kind of the Edgewood and then.

So hopefully we see another great winner here who goes on to

race in that first weekend in November as well.

So it's so before we go to the next race.

Yes, I mean, Mr. Starr needs the since we're calling, apparently,

our guest mr. So Ellis needs to know.

So we know with with the initial you're getting Budweiser.

What is the Ellis star? You know, adult beverage of

choice, or is there no adult beverage of choice.

We've had a lot of both on. This always, always changing off

right now. I'm drinking right now, that's

in that. Not this very second, but my

drink this week and they've last two weeks has been something I

discovered. It's a town branch bird.

Oh, yeah. Finished off in.

In finish off and maple step barrels.

Okay. I gotta say that.

I'm not a big fan of like the regular expression of Town

Branch but then I tried their foolproof, like their Barrel

proof and I liked it quite a bit.

So, and Sherry, casks, which I can't find anymore, which is

really good, not too sweet. And this one is finished in

Maple Stout barrels. And it's very, very good.

We're going to stick with the to roll Phillies and we're going to

move to a grade one, racism on 16th, on the dirt, for the

Babies. And we'll start.

Let's see. We haven't started with the and

yet so we'll start with Dan Dan go ahead and let us know who you

like me. Also babies.

Yeah, I have P pieces. That don't have odds.

I sent you the new ones so I know for the weekend.

You did but not yet? Yes I did.

I don't know what Chop Chop is on the morning line.

Twelve. Twelve to one look at you.

And know this is a Philly. I love Brad Cox.

He's putting Joel Rosario up which I found interesting.

City of Lights, Out of a Giant's Causeway.

Mayor shouldn't have any problem the dirt after running a mile in

that rainstorm at Kentucky down she ought to be fit.

I thought there were all kinds of horses in here that were

attractive, Raging Sea, for Chad Brown.

We need, we mentioned those connections before.

I'm I'ma play against run and feisty that Pocahontas.

She came. The last three sixteenths in 33

and one which Bowie Robo could come three pink Center.

He's my play against a couple others that I found interesting,

infinite diamond, and just Cindy, just Cindy her first two

races were excellent. I don't know what happened last.

Timeout sure, but to write meteoroids that's what's going

to happen. Every once awhile right there,

just going to not fire. I'm going my man, Brad Cox and

Chop Chop 12:48 shot. Dan's long shot right there.

All right Ellis, you agree with Mr. Mr!

Dan since I can't go home again, a couple people, some things

I've done this week like why are some of these words is starting

out on grass and a lot of trainers when they have a horse

they know as no early It apparently will put them on

grass where they know it's not as important and get it.

Plus you also get bigger fields and helps them to not get

discouraged. So, chop-chop certainly Horse.

By the way, Brad Cox amazing record, 19, 455 the last two

years going Turf to dirt. So you know, 40 a little less

than 40%. My topic is infinite Diamond.

I looked at this race. I watched it again.

I hadn't seen it. Originally another 10 to 1, by

the way. I mean, it's a good that's a

good number. Yeah, big number 8.

Six Echo be speed figure which was a tie for the best in the

race 14, length win and talking about Patrick being constant,

usually starters horses on dirt thinking back to some other

horses that he's had, that were good 2 year olds and mostly

early three-year-olds at the Indiana and sole Volante.

He started them all on the grass at Gulfstream and then he won

the Tampa Bay derby with one. You won the Fountain of Youth,

with another one. Giroux is not writing for Cox

here. Really, really intriguing for

me. Being cones horse.

I know he is separated think after Breeders Cup, he's

separating with his longtime agent.

A great are but this would have been a braid, our horse, they

put them on 59 and to work since leaving before leaving Florida,

just very intrigued. By this feature, is your new

sire out of more than ready, Marian Diamond, really

interesting. I'm Myles not to turn to the

still good. I Know Dan said you'd like fun

feisty, I get the time issue, but visually impressive six, why

she pulled herself. I mean Ryan Julian leopard

didn't move a muscle and she just pulled herself to the lead

and then Drew away. It was a pretty good number.

This will be your second round. So she's going to be stronger

and McPeak. I have it on another, I think I

have it on my notes for the British maturity.

You make being Rattle and Roll last year in the Futurity, but

he also has one with or Runner finished second set five seven

or five times and both between the alcibiades in the British

Futurity the last few years. His horses in October and

November at Churchill. In Keelan do very well.

And this is this kind of horse 07 too slow for win, bit.

Got to use it. The one Wonder Wheel, Mark

Cassie two wins in a second stretching out after a second.

The spin a way to leave. No, trace an into Mischief.

Fantastic reading for going to turn so Naga, to fair.

I mean infant diamonds tend to one, that's why she's my top

pick Raging Sea. I Know Dan mentioned a big, big

one there and then an interesting.

Horse for Wayne the 12 take charge Brianna.

I agree Pratt. Yeah, you notice Pratt.

Got off of Raging Sea, even though there's a rides, you

could easily have taken them out back.

You got off the right particular brand of we wrote last time as

well, you know, seven Furlong horse.

I curling so I'm not worried about a thing out of a war,

front mirror. That's produced of dirt, route

winner, and Lucas and 12:45. You know, it's kind of horse

against some of these races. You got about two bucks to win

cause you Want to be kicking yourself, the workspace, 40

bucks, so, but in fact, that is my top pick, and any of the

other four, might take a look at some other ones including

chop-chop, and that's a good pick, Dan, I think you can go

short here. I totally agree about take

charge Brianna. I think she is totally set up

for this race. Totally touch, trustee the move

by Flavia into this horse. And and, and the coach to get

this home. I just I can't look away from

funding feisty and Mike will say this, I pointed out if I see the

horse and person I am totally into the horse and I got to see

this one in the Pocahontas and it was as you said, Ellis

effortless. I mean, she just it was freaking

effortless. He didn't, there was no whip.

It was just hey, let's start running.

Literally just did this. And she said, okay let's go to

the front that sounds great. And with with two-year-old

Phillies, I am more interested in who's interested in being in

the front, then any other kind of anything else, anything else,

10 Phillies. And and so I think she's I think

the Is definitely the play here but if you want to play a longer

shot, I totally agree with almost at the 12 as well.

One thing to point out for folks and most people know.

But the Mi six you, that Keeneland is the first finishing

short. Yep, very horse.

Has to make a move. They got make a quick move on

the turn and then go, you can't make a move after they turn for

home is not enough room and that moves you put in on the train

last time going, okay? Back to the head is the kind of

move that wins at a Model 60 degrees, by the way, that's the

thing. I think I had that annoys me the

most about human is the to Finish Line's you and I are in

the same house. Just okay.

Yeah, sure throwback. I believe the last horse to win

this race to go on to win the Breeders Cup.

Juvenile fillies was British idiom, three years ago and then

the last horse to win this race to win the Kentucky, Oaks would

have been Silver Bullet day. Maybe I could 98.

So that is we've got this horse. This race has got a lot of

history grid horses that have gone through here.

So hopefully, We'll see another great two-year-old, fear,

Philly, Champion, coming out of this house baby's.

All right, let's move on to Saturday.

We got another three more, really good.

Safe traces on Saturday. We're gonna start off with race

seven, which is the gray to Thoroughbred Club of America.

Mi six was they call the third Club of America mile.

But six furlongs on the dirt, is it 6 for 10 years, that I'm

sorry. It's all right.

Eight furlongs Lily puts it on the, on the teleprompter, my

fault. My flan burgundy's, going to

read it. Third Club of America.

It's, that's The race. It's six furlongs.

I think so mi should not be there.

Okay, on the Dirt 3 year olds and up, three hundred fifty

thousand dollar purse. We'll start with Ellis, Ellis,

who do you like in this one? It's a your honor.

I'm sorry. It's not a race.

Wait, I'll go. This one.

Is a good one. Think of the next one.

I was gonna say this one's excellent.

Yeah, what are you doing? Yeah, that's great.

I agree with you, the good. Yeah.

Value. I had the money line, I forgot

it, but just Todd Fincher's, really good trainer, most

logical. Don't know how good he is.

Mostly races in New Mexico. He wanted to see how good this

Filly was after she won, you know, seven of her first nine

and shippers Del Mar. And she won a classified

allowance Race by five and a quarter beating, a horse and

Grace Adler. And then the next step winter

and Midnight Memories. Then she comes back and runs in

Rancho Bernardo and she got headed, ran head and head for

About three-eighths of a mile. Yeah, that's right and seven.

Clear the next horse? Something interesting I noticed

because I'm a senior boost Boudoir.

Fan for those who don't know Senor brewski door.

He just won the he won the ACT last week.

He was my log shot last week. There you go.

Yeah. Lover.

You get and he got what? He was 13 to 7 to 1.

That was fun, huh? Yeah, I'll take seven to one

Ellis. I'm not I'm not paying you.

So Todd pfitzer, transferring booster who earned his winning

to the Breeders Cup, dirt Mile. And I saw, I was just for the

heck of it. I said, oh, you know, I want to

see if they work together because there's usually ship two

horses to a circuit. And I went look back at Sydney,

Bruce korf, peepees was still had and race lines, and I saw

that September 21 worker was identical, so they had to have

worked in company on September 21 and of course, they went

separate ways after that. This really worked at a slower

for furlongs, but the fact that she worked with the male who

just won the ack, acks takes really Has been kind of excited.

So select she's just fast as she doesn't necessarily need to

lead. You can be second or third,

early come, but I think Drew can do what he wants with her, the

others, Tom Cottage Boy. You know, you don't think you

have a horse stuff off, Brad Cox and maybe you didn't, but this

horse went to Paulo, but maybe just need to get mature that lay

off from December July. She came back as a totally

different horse career-best first awful, laughs career-best

second off the layoffs. She's projected to be the lone

front-runner here, and even a joyful Kansas fast, pump clouds,

could be faster and you know she could get an easy lead and

slammed has to stick with her otherwise she's not being here.

Okay, Louie well it dangle last look at that first time in his

life. All right, so I lied on a long

shot this race. I think there's a chance that

the local class shows up in this race and joyful Cadence has run

a bunch of second places. Locally in a bunch of very high

level Fields behind bells of one behind Bells.

The one before that wins at Prairie Meadows.

I love the price at 12:50 with regular Gutierrez.

So I think I I just I have the 8 on top here.

I think the three as well has a shot here which is Club Car.

Another Second Place, where's for second place finishes in

five rounds hasn't had, I read Ortiz aboard.

I read the kind of the kind of jockey that pushes you from

second to third or second first, excuse me.

And so I love Club Car in the second spot here.

I also think and I think Ellis mentioned Palm Cottage, I think,

in the second, in my third spot here makes a ton of sense has

won the last two times out at the at different levels at Ellis

Park. Ark.

They ship a ship are her up to Saratoga winds as well that

horse no excuses here. I think absolutely as part of

the deal you know on this show we talk about is this a grade 2?

Is this a great to feel to me. This feels like a great 3 plus.

So those kinds of horses, have a real shot here.

I also like Caribbean Caper didn't fire last time out, but

15 straight before that jumps up at Colonial first time out this

year. Doesn't fire give her some time

off. Come to the Churchill Downs.

Training track runs on 46 + 3 / 4.

Furlongs last time out. So maybe that horse is really,

really ready to go. And so I'm going to try to beat

else's favorite here and go. 8, 3 to 4 in this leg.

I think I like the for, as well. I can't get on club car because

I think low Carla's to finish second, but I do like, I think I

Reds a kind of jockey that pushes you from second to First.

We'll see Dan. Does anybody know why Bell the

one isn't in here? I get those good question.

Her up to the to the Breeders Cup.

I'm guessing. Yes.

Yeah. My topic is the for Caribbean.

Caper she as Louis, just said she was 5 for 5 last year as a

three-year-old got got her prep race out of the way, was at

Colonial was was At six Furlong at the six Furlong marker in 9

and 4, she gets Jose Ortiz, a very big upgrade.

Albert stall knows what he's doing.

I'm going with Caribbean. Caper, by the way, I also am not

upset the bills, the ones on this race because I'm the whole

sconce and bells. The one like I thought was a

rule that they had to be in the same races so it's like, it's

not upsetting to me. I said not do that.

Yes, right. Alright, let's go on to some

Once and back-to-back grade ones here, we're going to start with

the Claiborne readers for charity and Louis was really

excited about this race in the let him go first, it's mono 16th

on the dirt for two-year-olds six hundred thousand dollar

purse. He likes.

Come on Louie spill it. So, we're on the ninth race

here. I have, this is my long shot of

the week and this is totally biased against a horse that I

wash but frosted departure. I knew it ran off the dang

track. The last time I was here, It

again. The prostate departure comes

home, there's something about settle.

The, the only thing I worry about with this horse is

sometimes we see horses that are every other and the pp say that

this is an every other, but if it's not, if we get the Kenny

McPeak last time, one sixty percent were in the good spot

here at 12:50. He and Brian Hernandez.

By the way, 21%, the last three hundred and forty six times,

they've said horses too. The to the gate to me, this is a

this is a spread race if I'm picking you 10 to 1 to win.

It's a spread race generally speaking.

That's how I play. Two-year-old races the to, as

well, logins is coming out of a maiden win.

This is a brad Cox special. No one is better at Sprinter out

at 32%, the bread cocks, this this reeks of, oh, I got florals

roo-hoo. Just fired his agent because he

gets a bunch of rides from Brad Cox, which is horrible.

Apparently and then And the Seven I have as well in the

third spot Forte. I read Ortiz, Todd Pletcher

Mike's on the show with me, I think no one places horses

better in Kentucky than Todd. Pletcher, I think it's very

intentional. He doesn't ship horses and or

place them in these spots without really, really serious

spots. He's a sprinter out at 24%, kind

of guy as well. And then, if you get into a

deeper, I think, baffert's horse here, by the way, calmer Road,

the 15 is set up for a massive spot.

Your if he draws in and so don't don't overlook the the also

eligibles here. I think his times at Del Mar

makes sense in this in this spot it isn't.

It isn't Sprint to route or whatever with him but all of the

numbers make sense and so don't overlook him.

And then lastly in the in the Five Spot instant coffee another

Brad Cox coming out of a maiden win Sprint around as well with

Luis saez. I'm just, I personally just

Fanta Louis ideas and so I have those five horses included here.

Mr. Mr. Dan yeah, I everybody knows I'm a brad Cox, man and

logins, logins breaks breaks his Maiden in 15 and 4 at Churchill

very impressive. Instant coffee, he did two

things in his Maiden win that are really difficult to do.

Number one is to win at seven furlongs, which he did in a very

good time. The other thing is he came out

of the rail, came off the rail, Of the one post.

It is very first start but I've got to go with Lost Art Arc.

I'm sorry because Marion Ravenwood the dam of Nest.

The damn who will be three year old Champion Philly.

The damn of idle, who's a grade one winner and I know that

Pletcher likes, this horse a lot key when after he broke, His

Maiden at Belmont. Wayne Lister who bred the horse.

And so leading ask Todd why he didn't go in the hopeful and he

said this is a to turn horse and that sapling, I he gets Pratt, I

may be more with my heart, then with my head, but I'm picking

Lost Ark, love it. Now let's well, I am going to go

one better than you. We I'm going to pick six horses

here now. Haha, I'm kind of kidding, but

you got three for a couple injuries.

If you include the tooth, we asked mrs.

Ellis, wait, let me get a pin. I won't remember all six of the

show. The show is recorded, and he

doesn't want to do. They keep, I'll send you a link.

It's all over the Internet, sorry.

It's not whatever Nest. By the way you mentioned is

running and The building on Sunday.

But basically the reason I kind of killed about the six is

you've got to ask me since I'm not even going there.

You got to Pleasures to Big Pete's into Cox's, but, yeah,

well, the six I think Lost Ark is the one really didn't have

the moon. I have a very small, very small

horses to watch list and it's hardly ever a horse that wins

usually horse. It's in trouble and I watched

the sapling and I made a note that just said Hardly asked most

of these Phillies don't have to turn experience or two term

Williams. She does, she improved

tremendously to a 94 Echo base people figure, the only ones

even close as long as I'll get to with an unheard-of figures

retiro, but it was in the Sprint and as Dan pointed out nest, and

idle and violence, violence, I wrote it down again, somewhere,

violence last year in the last year.

Like 30% dirt route winner. As you know just you know, it's

the second or third crop 621 is fantastic, the other half of

that. Uncoupled injury is forte 3 2 1.

Okay, 74. All I'm still hopeful, I'll

probably use all six in pick threes and tickets like that

logins. 108 example, be figure which you usually won't see

until you get to Derby time for three-year-olds and or early in

the prep season just really fast.

Ghost, zapper a blame. There's I'm a problem with two

turns Cox Sprinter a fantastic. Not going to be four to one

probably more like one jobs perfectly definitely gotta use.

I'll try to speed it up here the other half of that enters into

coffee, but 32 ones just hard to take on a horse that's just

about as good, but no better than the rest and then the make

pizza 10 to 1 and 12 the one. Yeah, God.

That's hard to ignore because frosted departure on the rail

coming out of a big one. That's a 98.

That's the second-best figure in the field with seven, furlongs

written out. Gas in the tank.

The dance produced a Route, winner and McPeak again, Rattle

and Roll. Last year, I found some of my

notes signalman s simply ravishing in the alcibiades.

There's no one else bodies. Like peaches points is worth

over this race and the other one hone, The Three Mile Island.

16th, a big race second beat the length of curly Jack, who might

be the next big thing? Sure we are COI.

Maybe a little further back than he wanted to be in that race lip

Rouge riding back. Sharpest tack.

I think it's his first crop. He's had a lot of success so I'm

going to make a token win bet for sure.

I'm telling you, I'm prostrate departure and honed.

It may be 5612 better, but lost ark is my main plan Direction.

This race is traditionally just loaded the horse that goes on to

win. This to has a pretty good career

where I don't roll one last year.

He's had a nice career, not maybe, not for sure that people

five. But before that essential

quality Maxfield, Nick's, Go free, drop.

Billy won this race in the never won a race again and then

classic Empire. Wow.

That's a pretty good match. Brad Cox Mark.

Cassie K McPeak. And I forget the other one so

that's a pretty good list that's as good as it gets.

Yeah. That's not a 42 year olds as a

good year olds. Yeah.

Because usually when we see these two year olds perform now

I feel like they're usually a flag.

Forget it man, we never see him again, right?

So that's all. All right we're going to move on

to the the next grade 1, which is the turf model.

The cool more Turf Mi again. It's a mile on the church.

That's why it's called the church while unlike what I said

on the other race, we're going to see some familiar names here.

Classic Causeway who seems to still be undervalued as a term

for some. Not really?

Exactly sure how that horse is 21.

I'm definitely would play that. Just, you know, a 21 Skies.

Go to shot same thing as a 21, right smooth?

Like straight is in this race. Louis, who do you like only

likes Ivar know a lot in this. Usually, and so, who do you like

in this one? So, I've always had my group of

horses to include here, but, man, I'll end on a Cossack read

done, nothing wrong. Last two times out at Belmont in

the J /, and then in the forest are Dave.

What's interesting is I like the progression of that horse,

coming back from the Arabian Peninsula.

So we talked about that a lot of this show.

It is really hard for horses. I don't know.

The reason it doesn't matter to come back from the Arabian

Peninsula and then run. Well, the next time out, we saw

this horse and kudos to build Mont 640 longer at Belmont.

Come back. Just when the race he does it,

he does a by half a length against a really fine Frank L

Force, interesting, me read and then they said, okay, it's time

to To go to turns and do the thing at Saratoga.

He says, okay no problem in the four-star.

Dave, he wins against real glory.

I think she is the absolute favorite of Saturday, for

example. Okay.

And so he comes back. He beats Mason as well and Soca

secretes on top for me. Five to one.

I know we have a new morning lionmaker at Keeneland 52 ones.

Knock it up, a Cossack read and that's fine.

But I I mean God bless him. If it does that, that'd be

great. I would love it.

I have 27 satin in the second spot.

The weird part about Santan is I'm not basing it on the

Arlington million was just happened here because I think

the turquoise are Churchill at that time was not at all.

Like the the turquoise that that horse is going to tackle at

Keeneland this coming weekend and that's as nice as I'm going

to be and I'm going to move on. And so I think that that horse

has a serious shot here. I do think I've are has a

really, really serious shot. And that's Horse that has won

over. This course, has one with a

serious speed figure in the in, it was at this very so, I mean,

frankly this tration 2020, thank you.

So two years ago and so it's a horse that's shown that that

Acumen to do it at Keeneland. So to me that's that's another

horse. It had to include to me.

Smooth like straights are really interesting horse and this is

where Turf racing is really interesting.

Especially in the United States where this is a horse at 77 for

22 lifetime. It is never won at Keeneland but

any of us if we looked around and that was the horse that won

this race would be like, oh, how did smooth like straight win

this race? I don't think that, that would

happen either. And then I think you have to

look outside as well to the five Mazen.

I'm not at all. Sure how this horse is too. 21

morning line. And this is where yeah for sure

run four times to 11 this year. Second place here at Keeneland

less time out over the good going and and else can speak to

this more than I can. It's, it feels like something

happens in Keeneland that I don't understand where the the

turquoise is always good. Maybe there are goats that just

walk around in urinate all the time.

And so it's always a little wet and I just don't know.

I get that horse. If you want to explain me, I

absolutely want you to, but that's the last horse there,

there's a horse on the outside that's and also eligible to 13

that I will mention as well. I think at owned, by the way,

has hit the board four times at six runs this year, just a

horse. If you're if you're playing a

try or a super include the 13, two-tone at that horse Drazen

that's all okay. Let's help us.

Let's hear the explanation to know this because Right now, of

course, opposite. In the fall, we've had 30 days

of no rain. No, man.

They're watering, you know, the heck, out of the course to keep

it sound in the spring, the mornings are cold.

There's a lot more do on the ground.

Mmm, the grass is wet Without Rain in the spring and less.

It really warms up and you get a lot of heat.

Little days aren't long yet they throw moisture in the grass in

Spring at Keeneland normally does stay good.

It would have to be hot or not. Any do in the Earning very low

humidity for days and days in a row, it just doesn't happen.

So that's why you have a lot of good horses of keying on the

spring, it'll be firm and maybe even hard for this race Dan.

Dan has will just love that to a level that I can't explain to

you. Like, he thought that was the

greatest thing that's ever happened.

As far as explanations of of courses.

Dad, how much did you love that? It was the best.

It was, it was Thank you. I love

before the three you guys were born so yeah, you can call BS on

it if you want to do is the point.

Yeah. Back to my motto of off and

never in doubt, I think is going to win this race.

Three years in a row. Hmm, Ivar is He's head of the

horse. So amazingly, well, he knows

this horse so well, and the patterns are so explicit to me

of what he did. I'll take a side trip and say, I

don't know if you guys remember the Sword Dancer this summer at

Saratoga gufo won the race. Hmm, and I'm very well.

Hold on my peepees. Last year, he won the race

Clement took blinkers off. He took blinkers off for this

year's race and I missed called love.

I love me remission at 12:45. I had a small exact If I would

have hammered it, we had him on the show.

Yeah, keep going. Yeah.

And so what Lobo did in 2020 was you ran the worst June and

September the tourist mile. He ran third took the blinkers

off for this and he wanted 14:1. It was his best race ever.

Not disgraced it all that. Your fourth in the Breeders Cup.

Mi comes back in the spring after 6 month layoff last year.

Fourth in the in the this race second off the Last year and

then third the British commander even better even though he

didn't run as well. In the first mile leaves him off

again this year. The vembur July because back in

Indiana wins The Schuster so impressed.

By the way, Mike and I went there.

It was so impressive. He's perfect.

Yeah. Is it got worse when you get him

to the middle of the track? And there's nobody in front of

them. Yep, just stretches out his

strength up and then even Iran. S, the, with my Mi is a

million-dollar grade one. The same as The Bard games is a

serious horse. Yeah, my games will be the

favorite in the bridge got Mi. There's a real question that so

here at second to him and he's beats finest Sound by a neck.

He want a pattern of 106 2113, I'm looking for progression.

The numbers don't matter when he won this race, in in September,

twenty twenty went 111, 122. We actually running a little

faster this year, but the blinkers come off and that's the

key to I've are doing the same thing.

He did, two years ago, that being said, cast a Creed is

good. I think he said 521, I've

written five to two Could be wrong.

I five to one of my this is drf but whatever.

I have to to I think this is Bill Maher.

Coming off the four-star day which is of course, another gray

one almost a million bucks, but I'm going to give one more horse

out and that's outside set-piece 12:45.

I agree, especially Keen washable 11 for 23 in his

career, Brad Cox, I went back and watched the video of the

Maker's Mark Mile and April come in, which make great one of the

great blanket finishers ever. Yeah.

Oh yeah. He's seventh meeting tool.

Yeah, but I'm not being disrespectful Giroux, but Drew

did not write in the way. He wants to be ridden.

This works had never been that close to the PACE.

He's three wide. The whole way.

He's totally uncomfortable. He took all of his leg kick away

and then he got it back next time about the dinner party.

He got him back last time out in the Baltimore-Washington race.

And now I guess Rosario, I mean one of the king of closures here

and it's a set piece. I think set P PSI of R will be

12th and 11th early and running as a team Lee and he's 15.

One so old and if I've are wins, he'll be the he'll match.

The last horse to win this two times.

Who did it one year? Then didn't do it the next year

and then one of the next year, who was that horse Dan?

Why is Dan? Who was it?

Can't remember what I had for breakfast tomorrow.

Come on Wise Dan come up with it was Wise.

Dan that is correct. Let's go to our own way.

Sighs Dan right now, who? Of course, everyone.

I think love watching. Why is Dan?

When he, when he ran? So Dan?

Who is your wives pick here? Yeah, you know I kind Kasich

read it's very seldom or horse gets get starts running as good

as he's ever run when he's 6 years old.

Yeah, but that last race at Saratoga is unbelievable.

They rating off of a half and 47 and for they come the last

quarter and 23 And he gets there under PSI is, so he had to run

his last quarter. Mile sub, 23 seconds, I think

Satine is certainly in the mix, but I'm going to give you a

horse not to sleep on. That's a order of Australia.

He won the Breeders Cup mile on this.

Course, A couple of years ago, he came over for this race last

year and for some reason just didn't fire at all.

He went off the favorite. It but ran ran 12, but he has

been running against some of the best horses in Europe.

All grade. Last three starts four out of

the last five starts grade ones and, you know, cool more isn't

stupid. So don't take the one only thing

I worry about or Australia, the last five races either going

right, handed or straight straight line races.

And so I worry about that with him.

But Be fair to him. He only won one of those.

Maybe he does want to give a Keeneland and go left-handed.

All right fellas, thank you guys for joining us.

We little bit of a long show today but it was worth it to

have R to Fantastic guest today. So Ellis and Dan, thank you very

much for joining us. No, happy hour is one hour.

There you go Dan. I will.

I will probably all try to work it out so that I can see from

our land. Ellis.

I will be out of Keeneland next Friday, so if you're around,

let's catch up and assign it Kentucky to win by three

touchdowns. I think it's gonna depend on

will not let his plays are not right.

I mean, hey, Ellis will be out there Friday and Saturday of

British cup. So make sure you so, especially

Friday brought their 10 to noon. We're going to be doing our

show. Just kind of slip by it's called

radio row By Radio row I mean they put pub tables on the

walkway at the back. That's what they did.

The covid. Your that's not what they're

going to do for this. You sure can do.

Yeah, I was, I was out there today and they've got all the

chalets or up and all the snow. Yeah.

All right. Look, it's looking really,

really snazzy right now. So I'm not going to do the same

thing. I'll give you my number, you can

text me, I'm there every day. Thank you so much for jumping

on. All right, guys, we're going to

pay the tab and get out of here. This has been when the horse

racing happy hour.