BloodHorse Monday 8/11/25

Hi, yes. And August 11th edition of Blood

Horse Monday. My name is Louis Rubeau

alongside Sean Collins. Virtually alongside Sean

Collins. He abandoned me many weeks ago

to Saratoga for the summer. But we will accept that as you

know, just because you're you're, you're actually

reporting on the ground there. I was at Ellis Park yesterday.

We will certainly get into all of that with Hunter Rankin for

Flying Dutchman later on in the show as big trucks gets it done

over a turn and 1/2 at a mile by a billion lengths at Ellis Park.

We'll get into that for sure. But Sean, good good morning.

You've been working a lot. How are you, friend?

You. Know yes, yes, I have coming

coming off of a couple a couple very long days.

But yesterday we made-up for it at Saratoga with the Saratoga

Corgi Cup. So a little, a little bit of

excitement on the day. Congratulations to Sam on

winning the Corgi Cup this past weekend.

That was that was the highlight of my weekend, just because it

was a nice, nice little break in the action.

Corgis. Not the ideal running dog, but

there was one that broke very well and I could not believe how

quickly that would spread it out.

Qualifier. Then he comes back and wins the

finals. It was ridiculous.

Yeah, ridiculous. I mean, by the way, when you

need Corgi race breakdowns, so you obviously come to blood

Horse Monday. This is the it's hope we do the

best that's. Right, I have to.

I have to give a shout out to our correspondent Bob Ehalt, who

I think picked the winner of three of the four corgi.

Races. Well, I guess it was 4 out of

five when she could have the final and I think his other one

ran like third or something. So he was on it.

All the corgi races. I don't know how what he was

handicapping. Obviously I did not get the same

information. 5 for five on the show parlay there.

There you go. Let's go was nailing the corgis

this weekend. Listen, there's a reason Bobby E

makes all the money, you understand me?

The reason he gets paid the big box is to call the corgi races

for us there at Saratoga. But over the week at some

interesting racing. We'll get into Ellis Park in a

minute. But certainly the grade one down

in outside of Richmond, at least there at Colonial in the

Arlington Million, Fort Washington gets it done, Sean.

And you know, once in a while we talk about stakes in different

ways. And a couple weeks ago I was

talking about the the Bing Crosby at at Del Mar as a grade

one. That's sort of a you graduate

into it. It's not that you get a repeat

when in a grade one in the Bing Crosby, seems to be that people

get their first grade one in the Bing Crosby, the Arlington

millions becoming that race as well.

And so Fort Washington steps in, gets the grade one win.

I think all of us, Sean, who have followed his career,

thought he was capable of a win like this.

Certainly a run like this in a spot like the Arlington Million.

Anything surprising about Fort Washington?

Not deterministic. In my head it's not

deterministic who ran, but Fort Washington getting the winner.

No, I don't think anything's surprising at all.

I mean, we've been seeing he's been running in some, you know,

tough company throughout his career and we really have seen

him in the past couple months take an extra step forward,

which that's great to see. I think he's what, 6 years old?

And it's great to see him kind of hitting his peak right now.

And he definitely seemed like he was in the form to be successful

this past weekend. It was exciting seeing him come

down the stretch and finally nail one of these big ones he's

been. It's always nice to see one of

those horses who's been grinding it out sometimes at the lower

levels kind of working their way up.

It's nice to see them get rewarded with a big win like

this on such a big day down a Colonial.

Well, in front of the show, Junior Alvarado it it's it's

interesting because his percentage at currently at

Saratoga, not great. It really isn't like he's not in

that top. I don't think he's the top five

or six in the jockey standings, any of that kind of stuff.

Saturday was a reminder, though. If you got a big race, Junior's

that guy right now. He's a big race rider, no

mistakes. On that races this year I, I, I

can't think of any races he's won yet this year has well.

When he if you if you need a a jockey on the best horse at a

race to not make any mistakes and again, to click the buttons

at the right time, it's him. He's really turned into that

guy. It's been it's been fun to

watch, frankly. Yes, I know.

It's so great. I mean, when we had him on the

show a couple couple weeks ago, right before the Belmont Stakes

where he we talked about his injury and you know, everything

that went along with that, that where he missed riding

sovereignty in the Florida Derby.

So it's nice to see him, you know, not just have sovereignty,

but also hitting some big success some of these other

races. He won the the Mahoney grade

free turf Sprint at Saratoga yesterday as well for Belmont.

So he he's, he's on top of his game right now, that's for sure.

I was at Ellis Park yesterday. We will get to those in a

moment. But Charlene's dream, the Texas

bred wins the Beverly D And I was talking with Jason Beam on

my radio show last week, Sean, about that.

That race itself, I can't remember the last time they had

more than six or seven runners in the Beverly D.

They've got to do a a better job of filling that gate, whatever

it is that they have to do to get that race going.

But Charlene's dream does win here.

We saw her win the Gallaurette at Pimlico over Preakness

weekend, so obviously had won in graded company before.

But this is a horse began her career in the debutante at

Golden Gate Fields that broke her maiden running at that race

over the synthetic. So funny where these horses come

from at some point, but obviously out of the Moser barn

and look or excuse me. Yeah, I think a great win for

her. You and I have not been able to

find the backup here. But it appears as though there

is no connection to the to the Breeders Cup anymore.

So I think that probably hurts the starting gate a little bit

for this race. But Charlene's dream, Do you

make much of her? Yeah, I've actually really liked

this Philly. We you mentioned, we were at the

Galleria when she went at Pimlico.

So that was in the middle of May.

That was her first start. Since conditions to a lot wetter

than what we had at Colonial, yeah.

Yeah, but that was her first start since September.

And I remember talking to her trainer at Moser Junior in the

winter Circle after she won that and the break wasn't necessarily

because anything was wrong, It was because they kept trying to

enter her into graded stakes on the turf and she hadn't run in

any graded stakes yet. So she kept falling onto the AE

list and not getting in. And eventually they just decided

to stop on her for the winter. I don't think that's going to be

a problem for her anymore. She's A2 top graded stakes

winner, Grade 2 winner this past weekend.

So I'm glad to see for the connections after some of those

frustrations to see her really starting to hit her stride.

Ed Moser, Junior, spoke very highly about her.

So I'm excited to see what she has in store for the rest of the

year. I don't know if she's really of

that type that would be competitive in the Breeders Cup,

but she's a nice, a nice little Philly who's definitely gonna,

especially when she can get up to the front and kind of, you

know, work out her own trips. She's gonna be the kind of

Philly that definitely is gonna make some noise, whether it's in

the Grade 2 level, the Grade 3 level, maybe in the right spot,

jump up and grab that Grade 1. She ran in Kentucky Downs last

year. It'll be interesting to see if

they throw her back in there because she ran 7th in the Oaks

there. It'll be interesting to see if

that's her next stop is in AI. Don't know a $17 million race or

whatever she wants to run. So there you go.

I'm already getting those, getting those emails by the way.

That is, that is starting to come in.

All mine that low now they're going down down to. 17,000,000

That's exactly right. But yes, I'm starting to get

those emails. It's almost.

God bless them so much. Flying.

I can't. I mean, I'm already gonna be.

What was this weekend? What are we doing like this I'm.

Looking over here in Saratoga, then I'm up in Kentucky Downs.

I don't know where the time by though.

It's completely wild, man. Yeah, but I mentioned Ellis

yesterday, so you tell me if this is a good day for a jockey

or not. Are you ready?

10 races. Second, first, first, second,

Eighth, First, First, First, third, first.

Does that sound OK to you? Nah, that 8th place finished.

There's no excuse for that one. Yeah, I don't know who who would

possibly have a day like that. I.

Don't know man. So Tyler goes for six wins

yesterday. Out of 10 races doing well.

Doing his darn thing. That's exactly right for Roger

Roux picks off 2 of the other races on the card there.

Look man, there's a in our sport and and I get reminded we had

Dan Owen on for the Maryland Jockey Club a couple weeks ago

and he reminds me pretty often in private conversations.

Louis, stop talking about jockeys.

This is horse racing, not jockey racing.

And it that's a an absolutely reasonable tact.

And and if you interview trainers like we get to or

owners or whatever, I've yet to be the trainer that's ever said,

Oh yeah, it's my training methods that make horses great.

They never say that, of course, right.

The the Jimmy's and Joe's much more important than the X's and

O's. But once in a while you get to

go to the track Sean, and you watch an athlete just completely

on top of their game. Tyler couldn't miss yesterday,

man. He could not miss.

His timing was great. His when he would make moves was

perfect. A couple of races he had to make

a decision on, you know, saving ground on the rail, making a

later move or just getting the lead, keeping the lead,

etcetera. So lots of different kinds of

races, route races, mile races out of that chute, Sprint races,

7 furlongers, I mean everything and everything in between.

And in every stakes race there yesterday, all six of them, he

hit the board at worst, third in the groupie dollar, right?

That was it. And so just an incredible day.

It was really, really fun to watch him there.

But we have, we had Big Truss win the Ellis Park Derby we had

and we had the Delaware Derby winner and Admiral Dennis 7

lengths behind him. And Sean, we talked with, I was

there. So we talked with trainer Brian

Lynch right afterward. Here's what he had to say about

Big Truss in his win there. Has he found the home around Big

Truss? Around 1:30.

Well, I, I'd hate to limit him to that, but it was a

breakthrough race for him today. And we've always felt like he

was had that sort of talent. Was nice to see him do it in the

fashion he did it today. Yeah, that's what you call

authoritative, very authoritative.

And it was love to see, you know, Jimmy Daly's coming off

the bench and he had a little knee surgery after the Florida

Derby. And I thought he run very well

to get up for 2nd and you know, the win it that dominated,

though I'm sure you didn't expect that.

Well, he's always showed that sort of talent and you always

hope that one day you're going to see that breakthrough race.

He's got a lovely pedigree. He's a beautiful, big, strong

horse. So he put it all together today

and I felt like I might have rushed him back a little in the

Indiana Derby, whereas he, you know, today he had a little bit

more time and he, you know, he had a couple of nice works

coming into it and everything set up for him and and he was

able to show showcase himself. He's not even to the spin box

yet, probably. What might be what are you

thinking about him for like the fall?

Yeah, I'd have to put my head together with the crew and, and

come up with the plan. But he's he's certainly some

exciting stuff ahead in the fall, fall racing to some lovely

stakes for the three-year old. So I'm hoping to be a big part

of it. What's ahead?

There Brian Litz there. I love the the background track

noise of probably some 19 year old girl who goes to the

University of Southern Indiana winning a an Amazon gift card

for the HBPA. Something like that.

Yeah, it's called down there, right.

It's. Called to stay out there.

You know what? That was when I was actually in

college. I'm kind of bummed that I never

did. I'm always at the track anyway

so. Every race.

Every race they gave out $1000 an iPad and airpad Airpods like

every race, 1000 bucks incredible.

It's incredible and no but very fun it was the place was packed.

Ellis is so fun if you haven't been down there, the first floor

almost looks like an amusement park when you walk in.

It's got different parts underneath wide open grandstand

upstairs too. If you want to go up there and

get a breeze and all those kinds of things that you'll definitely

need, by the way, put sunscreen on your bald head if you're me

next time you go to Ellis. But yes, I thought Big Trust

impressive. Do you know what's interesting,

Sean, is 2 things for me with Big Trust.

The 1st is Lynch admitting, hey, we've thought big things about

this force for a long time. And what's interesting is how

often do we see trainers think, OK, I've got something here, I

just need to keep trying and it never comes to fruition, right.

And so I'm blanking right now. Asmussen had two runners in the

Derby. One of them was a it was a

publisher. No, it wasn't publisher who was

was publisher was his maiden that he keeps running in these

spots that aren't maiden spots. It's interesting when trainers

get in their head, and I'm not accusing Lynch of anything here,

but rather just when they get in their head that this is going to

be there. I don't want to say they're

working backwards, but trying to figure out.

It's almost as though yesterday was a moment that forced him to

stop and think about what they're going to do with him

moving forward. Because if you ask the same

question to Brad Cox, he's got 3-4 options here.

He's already thought about it. He's already way ahead.

I we're watching with big trust the opposite of what he said

about Owen Almighty, Speaking of Flying Dutchman, is that he, he

told us over and over and over again, not a mile and a quarter,

not a mile and a quarter, not a mile and 1/4 finishes in the top

five, the freaking Kentucky Derby, right?

And then we hear from him today or yesterday, I should say, big

trust, you find something over a mile.

I don't want to limit him. And so it's interesting to hear

because there could not be two more different conversations

about horses from the same ownership group, right?

So it's just fascinating to hear those things back and forth.

I know that's that's part of the part of the fun of the jobs that

we have is kind of trying to sift through everything and find

out the information there. But I mean, this is a horse that

I've been high on. I remember I was at Keeneland

for his maiden victory and he really impressed me.

And it's not just because I'm a Lamar Jackson fan.

And so I like the name Big Trust.

That has nothing to do with it for sure, but he was very

impressive in that Keeneland maiden win.

I thought this was going to be a horse that we really have to pay

attention to. He comes back and runs second in

allowance at Churchill to Patch Adams, who ends up winning the

grade one of Woody Stevens, which by the way, Big Truss was

also in that race. He comes flying up the inside to

get third and then like Brian said, maybe just brought him

back a little bit too quick in the Indiana Derby first time

around, two turns, this Ellis Park Derby, it's that weird kind

of turn and a half coming out of that chute there.

And I mean, he showed us stuff. He showed it that he has the

talent that we thought he did at the beginning.

And I think a lot of times we jump on these trainers

sometimes, like when you do see a loss like the Indiana Derby or

something like that, just remember this horse is what, 5

starts into his career. The trainers still need to take

time to figure out exactly what the horse is.

And it sounds like that's what Brian's doing right now.

And I'm, I'm excited to see what he has in store for the future

because I've been very high on this horse.

And you know, I'd love to see Lamar Jackson get excited for

this horse too. But I I'm excited about this

horse's future and where he can go.

More excited about Big Trust's performance or more disappointed

in how Admiral Bennett ran? More excited than big Truz's

performance. Yeah, I thought, 'cause I think

that I don't know, Admiral Dennis is one of those horses

where, you know, he always, he was in some of the big races and

he could never get the job done. He gets the lighter spot in the

Delaware Derby, and I think maybe that's kind of where his

where his realm is now. Obviously he had the chance for

that here in the Ellis Park Derby because that's the kind of

race that I think works out for him.

But Big Trez was just a monster in this race.

I don't put anything negative on Admiral Dennis's performance

here. Maybe you could get on the fact

that he ended up losing 2nd place there at the end, maybe

you could point at that, but I don't I I'm not too disappointed

in Admiral Dennis. I think he'll bounce back and

find a similar spot and be fine. All right, let's find out

together if Sean has big trust in his five to three-year olds

to watch the rest of the year. We're going to do that now here

on Blood Horse Monday. Lou or Beau, Sean Collins

hanging out with you. We draw about other hunter

Rankin in a few minutes from Flying Dutchman, one of the

owner, part of the ownership group, of course, up big trust

and Owen Almighty, Speaking of three-year olds.

And so we'll get into everything with him once they're on.

I think we should start the conversation this way, which is

we are both of the opinion right now that sovereignty is the best

3 year old in training in the United States of America.

And that he's going to be when he comes around to the Traverse

or to the British Cup or whatever.

So is it fair to say both of us have him at #1 top of our

rankings for three-year olds to watch for the fall?

We're on the boys. Yes.

So I think that's fair enough to say.

There is another horse in his category, that is I should say

his category, the category below him called journalism.

And he has one many things. Sean, will you be placing him

second on your horses to watch this fall?

Indeed I will. Yes.

If you have been watching this show for the last couple of

weeks this year, that come as no surprise to you that I have

those two ranked at the very top.

I will go ahead and I will agree with you that going forward, I

still think journalism style, I still think his work show that

he's going to be effective in these runs.

I expect to see him next in the just and by the way, based on

nothing but just in the Pacific Classic.

I think that's when we'll see him next.

Those are my top 2 going into the fall, Sean.

I get a sense that number 3 is where we're going to get

different. It might partly inspired by Big

Trust, believe it or not. So who do you have at #3?

I mean, I, I have to have Baeza at #3 just from what, what he's

done work wise, he's the only one who's really been close to

the top 2 at this point. Well, I got to give a shout out

to Gosger as well. He's been close journalism and

his two starts, but I, I think by Aza, it's weird because he

hasn't won a great at stakes yet, but I think that those

three just also just from talking to different trainers on

the back stretch here at Saratoga, there's a lot of

trainers who keep mentioning him in the same breath as the other

two. So I think I think we have a

clear solid top 3 here for me at least, Sovereignty Journalism by

Aza. I'm going to go a little bit of

a different direction here and this is a horse that I hope

continues to improve off of an injury, and that's the Iowa

Derby winner in magnitude. I had to feel we were going that

way. What are you suggesting that

this is Blood Horse Monday episode 29 and that you happen

to know what I think and that sort of thing?

Is that what's going is this 28? What is this?

28 I think I may have talked to you enough now to where I can

figure out where your mind's going.

Obviously the winner of the Risen Star before he had to jump

onto the bench came back in the Iowa Derby, looked very good.

I'm sure at least a thought to the traverse there.

So I'll go magnitude 3rd just because Sean, he improved on

speed figures in every measurable category in the Iowa

Derby off of the layoff. And so if he can improve, if he

can take another step forward, I think he can.

He can push his way into the top five conversation for sure

amongst 3 year olds to watch this fall.

Who do you have in your fourth spot?

I'm going to go interesting in the fourth spot because this is

one that I don't know if we would see in the same kind of

races as the horses we've already mentioned, but I really

liked Tip Top Thomas Indiana Derby.

I thought he was. That was a very good performance

from him. He's been coming back off of

he's, he came back off the layoff.

And then I think this with the Indiana Derby is what his second

start off the layoff, I think. And he beat Sovereignty last

year. I think he's got a lot of upside

heading into the future here, especially if he starts getting

the distances that he likes. It sounds like they're going to

kind of keep him in that mile mile on the 16th range at least

back when we talked about the Indiana Derby.

But I do, I'm very high on his upside.

There's another horse down in that kind of mile Sprint

division that I'm high on too, but I can save that for when we

get to #5. OK, all right #4 I'm going

similar to you. I'm going to go East Avenue

here. I think that that's a horse that

they're going to stop sending him around two turns and he's

going to get way better and I think they'll shorten up with

him. They'll figure it out.

I think. You know, what's interesting is

I think there are a number of horses this year in the

three-year old ranks, Sean, that by the time we get to December,

we'll we'll be looking at either the Malibu out West, right?

7 furlongs dirt day after Christmas, all the things, or

the Cigar Mile at Aqueduct. I'm actually legitimately

interested because I think there are a number of horses in this 3

year old group that would be really good in that setting and

I think E Avenue is one of them. And so I'll draw a line through

some of these wonky performances.

Again, we're trying to figure out the best 3 year old.

He's very early in his development, all those things.

But I also still think his Bluegrass front running race was

as good as I've seen of any of the on the lead kind of horses

in the three-year old class. And so I'll put him forth if I

do have Gosser because I've watched him both in the

Preakness and in the in the Haskell be really close in Grade

1. So I'll put him 5th.

That obviously makes me lead by Aza out of my top five, who's

number 5 on your? List there, Sean.

I'm actually pretty high on Verifier.

And we talked about this a couple weeks ago with the the

maybe the bias of being present in person when you were talking

about Rodriguez and the Wood Memorial.

Maybe it's older? Than.

That, but I was at, I was at Colonial when he broke his

maiden. I was at Pimlico when he won his

allowance. I was at Churchill first,

Maxfield. He just looks like he's going to

be, you know, a top notch horse and I think they're pointing to

the Allen Jerkins next on Travers day for him.

And I I really think he's got a lot of upside and he could

potentially be a player in that division.

So I really like him moving forward as well.

Obviously, I'm a big fan of Gossgar.

I do think moving forward, you know, he's going to be a big

player in this division as well. It's tough.

You know, I kind of almost want to leave sovereignty journalism

and Baeza out of the top five just so that way we can look at

who the five the next 5 kind of are, Although it sounds like you

know, you you left Baeza out of it.

So. That's one of great.

That's one of greatest stakes, frankly, is one of the maiden

race. Place in the Kentucky Derby, the

Belmont and Anita Derby, and the Jim Dandy.

By that, Owen Almighty should be on your list.

Then I mean by your own rankings.

Maybe the top five of the Derby has the greatest stakes win this

year. I know, but I'm going to be

serious. The horse should be at the top

of your list. Etc.

I mean, well, why wouldn't he be?

OK, because he's not. I know who he might be at the

top. I know someone might have him at

the top of the list. Who?

Might be Hunter Rankin. We'll let that guy back on this

podcast. Ridiculous.

What are we doing here? Oh man, click that on mute for

us. There he goes.

Hunter Rankin, of course, from Flying Dutchman.

Appreciate him. Jumping back on the program here

all day in Ellis yesterday. Man, I had to feel good.

Yeah, it was awesome. We've always hoped he had.

We always knew he had that kind of ability, but we in his first

race he showed some but but he was great yesterday.

We were really proud of him. Appreciate Hunter jumping on the

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Racing. We heard from Brian Lynch after

the race that I was kind of doing the juxtaposition of how

he talks about Big Trust and how he talked about Owen Almighty

earlier in the year as far as how long they want to go, and he

was talking about next steps with Big Trust, kind of not

knowing what to do next. Hunter What a great problem

though coming out of a mile Derby with A7 Love.

Way to deciding what you're going to do next.

Yeah, he, I, I, I don't think it's a distance thing for him.

I think it was more just mentally maturing for him.

You know, he can rate. He proved that yesterday and,

and, you know, he went a mile and obviously he finished very

well and it was not like he was quitting at the wire.

So I, I don't think we've never really had.

He's very fast, but I think he can harness his speed and I

think, you know, he's very manageable.

He's gotten very manageable in his training and everything.

So I think we're we're kind of of the opinion that he will

stretch out. And you mentioned he's very

fast, I believe he is .4 seconds off the track record when he was

wrapped up there at the end by Gaff Lyon.

When you get a horse who does it that easily at that speed, just

how exciting is that? Especially when you've kind of

had a couple races now where you've been waiting to get him

back in the winner's circle? How exciting is that for the

whole team? Yeah, really, really exciting

and, and can't say enough great things about Brian Lynch and the

job he's done and his whole team has done with this horse.

He he had a few issues when he was a baby and we rehabbed him

and, and, but you never know how they're going to come out of

stuff like that. And Brian's just been very, very

good, not only with him, but with our our whole team of

horses. Just can't say enough about the

attention to detail the the job that those guys do every day.

We're just so proud to be a part of that, that group.

But they, they've done a great job with him.

And, and, and I think like you say, we, we were pretty

aggressive with him in terms of what we asked him to do after he

won his maiden race. We wheeled him back, I think in

three weeks off the maiden win. And then, and that was on Derby

day, which is always a hot race. And we ran into Patch Adams and

obviously a very, very good horse.

And then we ran into him again at the Woody Stevens.

And that was a, that was a big, a big ask of our horse.

So I, I think it was more our fault in the Indiana Derby.

He had been through a lot and, and we wheeled him back again in

4 weeks and I think he just probably needed a little time in

there. But, but he's, he's, he proved

yesterday that he's pretty good. So we're happy.

Otter Rankin with us from Flying Dutchman go back to Indiana

Derby Deshawn and I were both there.

It is, it is very, it's a reasonable tack to have today

after you win the Ellis Park Derby.

Oh, we had just taken in there a little bit too early.

How frustrated were you though on Indiana Derby day?

Was there a level of concern like, you know, because frankly

we were just talking about this three-year old class hunter,

It's pretty darn good. So I've got to imagine, you

know, trying to get those either, you know, listed stakes

or you know, grade threes, that kind of thing for your 3 year

old colt. Was there a level of frustration

that day? Yeah, for sure.

I, I thought his talent would carry him that day.

And, and I think we ran into a little bit of a speed bias

track. I, I can't remember, I, I didn't

really pay attention all day that day, but but I think we

didn't run into a, a, a tough deal with the with the track

that day, But that's no excuse. I he, it was very, very

frustrating. I, I, we thought he was going

into that day. We thought he was a lot better

than that. So we regrouped with him and,

and just thankful he could, you know, prove it a little bit

yesterday. So I, I, I think his best days

are ahead of him. I really do just got immense

talent and he's he's pretty kind on himself.

I hope, hopefully he stays that way and he's just an ehorse to

be around. Well, let's keep going down

memory lane a little bit. Let's go back to that Woody

Stevens stakes. You guys are, as you said,

having a big ask of him going into the Grade 1 off the maiden

win and the allowance second. He had a little bit of a

interesting trip from the inside spot.

He was pretty far back in the field and then he makes that big

run to get up for 3rd. Obviously, probably, you know,

obviously you wanted to win the race, but you guys had to be

pretty excited seeing that result against that company the

first time you faced it, weren't you?

Richard yeah, it was a very tough post position.

He was down, I think. Yeah, he was on the rail that

day and it was a sealed track. It was kind of a drying out

racetrack. Probably not what he would love,

but I thought he showed a lot of heart and a lot of courage to

come through there like that. Rosario was on him that day and

he kind of had to check him a couple times and, you know, he

didn't have the best trip, but you know, he he really ran on

and ran well against, like you say it was.

I thought that was a very, very good field of horses that day.

So I think he beat the likes of like, you know, Citizen Bowl was

in there and, you know, there were a bunch, there were a bunch

of at least decent horses in there.

So we were encouraged by that. And I think that's probably why

we got a little aggressive. You know, we come back in four

weeks in Indiana and, and I, I don't know if that was it, but

you know, just happy that we were recovered since then.

Hunter, he's by justify. There's curling on the damn

side. This is obviously, you know, as

we talk next steps with him, a horse that can probably handle a

little distance, at least based on the breeding of the

Pennsylvania derbies out there. Is that a thought for you guys?

I mean, if you've been in the Woody Stevens, that's a great

one. I mean, that's a way to Derby

has to be at least a part of the.

Yeah, there's a, there's that race, there's a race, there's a

race at Turtle that's maybe a mile and a 16th and there's a

couple others out there. But I, I think, you know, if he

was doing really, really well, I think we'd point to

Pennsylvania. Well, the name Big Truss, who is

the Lamar Jackson fan and the Flying Dutchman team.

Well, Peyton, our our CLO he he's he's our guy and he he

didn't actually name the horse One of the other kids did, but I

can't remember. I might have been the youngest

saving, but but anyway, they the Ravens are very important to

Peyton, who works on our team, and he he he's been you know, he

loves he's loved this horse ever since we named him.

We all have but but especially so that's that's been pretty

cool. Another one of yours that's on

the work tab is a guy named Owen Almighty.

What's he up to? What's his next stop, you think?

Yeah, he's doing great. We're kind of debating that

right now. There's two spots.

There's, there's the one at Charlestown and then the, the

jerkins, same kind of thing. I, I, I think the jerkins, while

we think he could do it and while he's, he may end up there,

I don't know. It is a big ask.

We gave him some time after the Derby.

He did really well through that time and, and, but he dropped

off a little bit at the farm. Some horses go, you know, out to

the farm and they, they really retain their physical heat.

He dropped off a little bit. He he let down and, and so it

took a little bit to get his condition back, but I think that

time really helped him. And he's, he's doing great right

now. So either place, I know he'll

give us everything he's got. He always does.

But but they're both 7 eights. I think they're both, yeah, I

think they're both 500,000, which I know the New York race

is much more prestigious, but but either place, I, we just

want to get him started back on the right, on the right foot and

get him geared up for a fall campaign.

Because I, I, I still believe, as I told you guys before, I

think he's, I think he's got the potential to be a very, very

good 4 year old. Now, he was a hot topic of

debate leading into the Kentucky Derby.

I know, I know. We talked to you about that

right after he won the Tampa Bay Derby a couple of months ago.

This, by the way, is a top like 3 story for me in horse racing

all year. I love this.

I love the old almighty thing going to the Derby so much I

can't even describe it. It's one of my very favorite

things. I'm so sorry but.

I love it. There's, there's all that

debate, you know, about the distance, whether or not he can

get it. He turns for home.

And I had that moment at the top of the stretch where I thought,

Oh, my God, almighty is going to win this.

And I'm sure maybe you guys might have had that as well for

a couple moments. But just how, how proud was the

team after all that to see him run so well, see him get fifth

in the Kentucky Derby after all, all the people in the media, all

the people online, everybody saying that he shouldn't have

been in that race. Well, you know, I, we've, we've

gone over that day so many times.

We're so proud of him. He's such, like I said earlier,

he's such a cool horse. He gives you everything he

possibly has. And I mean, Javier rode him

great. And you know, he said when he

when he got tired, he just tried harder, you know, and you know,

it just almost makes you emotional to think about it,

especially reliving that day. But the family was all there,

some of their friends and it, it was, you know, I know it'll be

more exciting for them and for us if we ever win it or if we

are ever lucky enough to do that.

But I, I don't know that it could ever be more special.

I, I don't, I grew up in Louisville.

I've never realized the weight of that race.

And I, I, I don't know that you can unless you're participating

in it. But it was just such a

monumental moment for our team and such a proud moment for our

team to see him try so hard for us.

And, and like you say, I mean, when he hit the head of the, he

hit the lead at the head of the lane, I, I really, for a second

I did think he was going to kick on.

But they just, you know, they, he's not made to do that.

And they, there were others that were, you know, obviously well,

more meant for the, the distance.

But I was really proud of him. And we, and we all, we all were.

When he got tired, he tried harder.

Man, that took me out. Hunger.

That's a good stuff. It really is.

When you talk about him and you talk about being good as a four

year old, does that, does that help shape how you look at the

rest of his three-year old year knowing that you plan to race

him as a four year old? Yeah, definitely.

I, I think we have that luxury here.

This, this family, you know, loves racing and, and obviously

we'd, we'd love him to be a stallion someday and sure, and,

and support them with our own mayors and everything like that.

But, but I think being able to play the long game with him and,

and plan the best possible path for him to become the best 4

year old, I think is a really nice luxury that, you know, some

sometimes you don't have. And I, I, I think if we manage

him properly, if we take care of him, I know he'll take care of

us or he'll try to. So, but he's, yeah, he's really

special. He's kind of our little our

mascot, you know, he's, he's, he's cool.

Well, I have a more extensive question after this, but first I

got to follow up on our last when we talked to you a couple

of months ago, Have we figured out if we're going to have the

drink name the Owen Almighty yet?

I know that was open-ended the last time we talked to.

You that's a good, that's a good question.

Good job by Sean. Journalism.

That's what you're doing, journalism.

It's a good question. I'm sure we could get one,

namely I, I need to, I'll hit the family after this thing and

we'll, we'll try to get that tonight.

Get it done, Kurt's Corner. Get it done.

Let's come on, get these Louisville guys.

I'm not, I have, no, I have nothing to do with all that, but

I'll try. Yeah, for for those watching

that don't know the owners here involved with the Dutch Brothers

Company Coffee coffee chain as well.

So we'll, we'll keep an eye out for that.

Oh, an almighty drink. But my actual question now

moving on. So you mentioned how much this

family loves racing. You guys dove right back in the

Saratoga Select sale last week with Fasic Tipton got six

horses, including a $1.8 million son of Uncle MO.

What can you tell us about that horse that really kind of caught

your guys's attention? He was just awesome.

You know, he, he's just a, he was, every time we looked at

him, we liked him better. You know, one of the there,

there's a lot of nice horses up there.

And when you're, when you're sifting through them and you're

trying to buy the best possible horses for your stable, you

know, you get out and run some and you, you end up with some

maybe a little cheaper than you thought you were going to have

to spend. He went a little higher than we

had obviously hoped, but he was a very, very, very nice horse.

But I, I, I'd like to speak about the group, but you know,

it could come from any one of those.

And just because he was the most expensive, obviously doesn't

mean he'll be the most talented. You're, when you're evaluating

horses at a sale, it's very, it's very difficult to say which

one you'd hook your Shank to, to say this is going to be the one

that's going to be the, the runner.

So hopefully they're all runners, but they're all they

were all sold by good people. They're all raised by good

people and, and just felt very fortunate to have Travis and,

and his family there with us and that they're so committed to,

you know, what we're trying to do here.

And, and families like this don't come around very often.

And, and they're just we, it makes us want to work harder and

get get lucky for him. So we were really happy with

what we got up there. Were you surprised by the prices

this year? Yeah, I yeah, I was.

I mean, but that sale is that sale is strong for a reason that

the success out of that sale is undeniable.

And they fasic doesn't they do a hell of a job recruiting horses

to that sale. And when you bring them up there

as a consignor or an owner, you know, they have to they have to

fit into everybody's. They have to pass the vet

almost, you know, they have to be a nice physical.

They got it sometimes. Most of the time they're from a

good family. So you kind of go up there

knowing you're going to like most of the horses you see, and

then you just decide which ones you like better than others,

really. It's like going to the Porsche a

lot and being surprised you like all the cars.

That's exactly. Right.

Sean, you know all about that. Oh yeah, definitely.

Well one of the other one you mentioned the other horses that

you picked up, one of them was a son of the a flight line, the

first crop of flight line here. Just a little bit about him, but

then also just in general, what did you what was kind of all the

different buyers reception to the flight lines?

How have you kind of seen different people, both your your

guys's operation, but then other people responding to the flight

lines? Because I know there's a lot of

buzz around him obviously from his racing career now turning

into a stallion career. Yeah, very, we were very excited

about how they looked up there. There were, I think there were

1010 or 12 of them in the sale and really liked all of them

physically. I, I, I saw all of them.

I mean, I obviously like some better than others.

The one we got is out of a mare, Hot Dixie Chick that I've always

just had a thing for. I, I, I really love that mare or

that Philly when she was a race Philly and I love a horse out of

a good two year old. She was a very good 2 year old.

Steve had her and Barbara campaigned her and, and, and

she's had obviously she's had some success as a breed mare

too. So I, we kind of, you know, I

went up there wanting to like that horse, but it, it turned

out that, you know, that we were able to, to like it when it

actually in person and very, very, very good physical smooth

at the walk and just a really kind of a cool customer.

So we were, we were, we, we kind of wanted to get a flight line,

but we didn't know that we would.

But it was one of our goals was to at least try and support some

of them because of our our investment in the horse and we

were able to come away with a nice one.

So we were excited. Well, Hunter, thanks so much for

jumping back on and joining us here on Blood Horse Monday

Flight Lights. Nice.

But he never won the Ellis Park Derby.

How about that? In your face.

Well, good. Well, good luck with everything,

Hunter. Congratulations on a great day

yesterday. We'll talk with you down the

line, I'm sure. Cheers.

Thanks guys. Thank.

You, Hunter Rankin from Flying Dutchman appreciate him jumping

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You know, Sean, it's fascinating especially and I and I think I

stole your question, but just when we started to see the

prices right and it's it seems as though that's carried over.

We'll talk to Frank in a second about this.

My eyes opened up a little wider than usual around a sale because

I get used to you get used to oh half 1,000,000 bucks.

So we're doing this. It was like.

Million, million. Million.

And it would just kept going. And it, it's interesting to hear

guys like Hunter say things like, yeah, it's not as high as

we wanted to go, but if that's the market, that's the market

that year, right? And so it's it's interesting to

hear those numbers at the top of the sale that way.

So yeah. I mean, you saw a lot, a lot of

competition at at the sale this year.

There was a, there was quite a few people who I know I talked

to who mentioned, you know that they're paying more than what

they probably would have for some of these horses a few years

ago, which I believe is a sign of very healthy market, a

competitive market. I know that that bidding at the

very end that ended up in 4.1 million for the for the sales

top or I'm, you know, that was a pretty exciting couple moments

for me. This was the first time I was at

the Saratoga. So other sales, I was at the

Keeneland sale a couple days last year, but that was watching

that tick up and up and up to that 4.1 million just watching,

you know, all the conversations that are have before the bids

are placed. That was an exciting moment for

me. I thought that was pretty cool.

But that's a sign of a good competition in the market, I

believe, and I'm sure Frank can definitely expand on that

further. Yeah, the other thing that stood

out to me is just how openly they talk about Owen Almighty

campaigning as a four year old. Awesome, great, awesome.

And by the way, his works look ridiculous lately.

He looks spectacular. The times, how he looks,

everything else, he looks fantastic.

So hopefully getting into the fall back to his normal self.

We do bring in Frank Angst to chat about some of those sales.

Frank, how are you? Nice boats my friend.

Good to see you. Very good.

Good seeing you, Louis. Sean.

Yeah. How was your trip to Santoga?

Did you have a nice time? It's good.

A lot of good stories, good things to see was the actually

the first time I'd been to the Hall of Fame induction ceremony.

So that was very cool. And it had been a few years

since I'd been at the Saratoga sale and boy, the the entire

sale was was really spectacular and just the excitement level

for the about the second-half of the second night.

It was just one amazing horse after another and for the entire

sale it added up to 25 horses that sold for $1,000,000 or

more, which is more than twice as many as last year when they

had 12 so. What do you attribute that to?

You, you know, you have to be careful to not overstate things.

I mean, this is the top of the market, which has been fairly

good the last few years. But you know, this was this just

shattered records. So you have to give, you have to

be some level of excited about it.

I mean, even at even granted that it's this high level, at

this high level, it, it did spectacularly well.

I mean, I, I attribute a few things, some, some tax laws that

are in place that can give buyers confidence that bonus

depreciation is now permanent. So when you go to make your

budget so you can count on things instead of wondering, is

that going to get extended each year, you know, or or not?

I mean, it's not necessarily the most exciting thing, but it's

part of it for sure. I, I think there's tremendous

confidence in the top of the, the top level sires right now.

I mean, good point. You buying into Mischie.

I mean, they're, you know, you, you look at sires from the past

and sometimes it was like people are just buying horses because

they're, it was tied in the name and, and, and you saw some level

of success. But I mean, within to Mischief,

he has 3 Kentucky Derby winners. He's the top sire and like

they're winning the rate. The Derby really drives this

market. I mean, that's what people are

largely expecting. Obviously, males, if you're

buying males for that kind of money, you're trying to win the

Kentucky Derby, you're trying to win the Preakness Breeders' Cup

races, the Belmont. But really the Derby is where

the dream really starts and you have the sixth time leading sire

who's had three Derby winners, one of which is running right

now and in many people's minds is the top horse in the country.

Then I mean it, it was a small thing, but it was like little

things. And Sean saw this too, kept

adding up to the momentum of the sale to set have Sierra Leone,

who was the sale Topper in his yearling season of 2022 at that

sale. He was the the sail Topper to

have him win two days before and give everyone a reminder of gun

Runner and the good things he's doing.

You know that that certainly adds to it.

And then I think there's an excitement it it it's helpful

that these classic horses have continued to raise, frankly, and

the older horses have continued to raise, I think, which I just

mentioned two of them there. And then I think there's a lot

of positive vibes in the industry.

You know, it's all that these are kind of smaller things, but

I think they all add up. The the Netflix series was a

positive for any industry. And one of the buyers said he'd

been, he's been in the harness side of racing for 20 years and

watched that series and it was like, I'm going to go buy a

thoroughbred. And I mean, he, I have to look

up the the exact horse, but it was one of those million dollar

horses. So he went in with both hands

and went in with Kenny Mcpeak, which is terrific because Kenny,

a lot of times he'll tell you and it's accurate is he's had a

lot of owners try to get in on the budget approach.

And Kenny's done very amazingly well with those horses.

But it's nice to see Kenny get a, a big time sale type horse

that's already well thought of and see what he can do there.

So nice new owner there for Kenny and I have to say, Haisa,

the improved safety, you know, it, it's hard to it it increases

the enthusiasm when you see that the sport is is taking measures

and that they're working and that the sport is safe and all

these people that want to shoot arrows at it on social media and

such that there's an answer now. It's the safest years we've ever

had. There's an organization in place

ensuring that, and it's working. You mentioned something earlier

that I think is interesting. Frank Eggs for this, of course

our editor there at Blood Horse. I am, I'm interested because in

in ownership, certainly there are groups trying to make money

and that's this is, you know, this is their business and you

know, whatever. But so often you get into horse

ownership for the excitement of it.

I do wonder, Frank, if you're right about something you said

earlier, which is we still have the Sierra Leone's and the

Freelances and those running again this year if there isn't

some momentum building because we did see some of those horses

back in the gate this year. I think so too.

I mean, it's such a, you know, it's one thing to say, oh, this

sire had this through this horse a couple years ago.

But you, you don't need a memory.

Like. The curlings are out there to

not this times are out there and they're they're doing it over

and over again. And it gives you some level of

confidence as a buyer. And, and one thing I should also

should have mentioned is basic Tipton's put a lot of work into

the sale and boy, Browning got emotional just thinking about

over the years and how much basic Tipton has evolved and how

much they've put into the sale. And then we have the video of

that's available at Blood Horse. If you, if you search for that,

it's, you know, it's that you have to give them credit too.

They picking a lot. They're picking horses that

people are excited about and building that momentum.

You know what, what does it mean for for the industry overall in

terms of sale prices? We'll find that out as some

bigger sales and other types of horses sell later this later

this late summer and fall. But, you know, you can only

weave up. This is the sale that's on the

record and it couldn't be better.

I mean, it's a terrific start to the yearling sale season.

Pretty incredible to watch those numbers tick up and up and up.

Frank, appreciate you jumping on earlier in the show.

We did our three-year olds to watch for the fall.

We know the top two in the division.

Frank, who would be your horse to watch this fall in that 3?

Year old you know what I'm interested in and and it's I'm

sure that some people will say excuses what but it which I get

but I'm interested to see journalism in Baeza race in

California. They don't have to ship across

the country and and see if the store there's a little bit of a

bump for them. I'm interested in seeing that.

Obviously sovereignty is Isabel a huge gap.

He's won the races. You want to win 22 for two in

the two classics he raced in. He's tremendous.

And you know, I can't say enough good things about sovereignty,

but I am interested in in seeing those horses that are based in

Southern California get to potentially prep on their own

circuit and go in races like the Pacific Classic or the Breeders

Cup Classic. I like the percent of classic

sets up to be an absolute monster this year.

Very excited about that moving forward.

What else are we working on on the website?

Oh, you know, just the New York bread sale right on the open

sale is doing very well. Also.

I think there's some good changes.

I, I think there's some changes that people are enthusiastic

about on the New York bread side and there's going to be some

more money in open races for those horses.

And, and I think that's reflective and, and hopefully

this reflective of the industry overall.

Let's, let's hope that's what's going.

And, and sometimes I do say that and buyers will call in and say,

well, we don't always want higher prices, which I get, but

we, we do kind of cover things from the perspective of the

breeder. And, and I do think if you're

paying more early, there's that expectation that these horses

are going to be worth more on the other end.

So it's, so I think that's the way you, you look at it.

We, we did have one, one buyer point out, hey there, there's

inflation in general throughout the country then and that's

probably part of it too. That's probably part of it too.

Things just get more expensive. Those of us with kids know

exactly how that is. Frank, as we head back to

school, if you are ever wanting to follow the sales,

bloodhorse.com, your one stop spot, you'll see that red bar at

the top while the sales are live.

Click on that. You'll get all the live updates

there. And of course, just at the top,

either click on stallions and breeding or on the sales habit

style at the top of bloodhorse.com.

Frank, appreciate you, man. Glad you're back from New York,

OK? Thanks, Louie.

There you go. Great.

Thanks for this. From that beautiful, beautiful

office of his there at the Blood Horse offices.

There you go, and I got this by me.

That's my life. Radio guy, you need to go.

There's radio guys. That's all that is.

I got a bookshelf over here. Oh, I know that's.

Not the shot. Yeah, you're going to.

You're going to the studio, you know that?

Yeah. You need more.

Historic boats you need to have race records.

You had the 1937 Ohio full registry.

You need to get that you. Need to go back to the 1700s in

England, have all the breeding records from over there.

You are in Saratoga, Alabama this weekend.

What's the what's the buzz up there?

It's going to be a very good race.

It's a, it's interesting because there's, you know, the Alabama,

I think every year we expect it to play a large role in

determining the three-year old Philly champion.

And I think we have three very strong competitors for that

award in the race this year. And it's almost like each one of

the three has something to prove, which I think is what

makes this a really interesting race.

You have good cheer. Who was the star of the division

the first half the year? She's coming off of the worst

performance of her career in the Acorn.

Did she regress? Was it just a weird track?

The way the rain came in right before the race and she didn't

respond well to that. She's been at Saratoga ever

since then. She hasn't left.

She's been training well. She took her two months off and

she from racing, she's been training, but two months off

from racing and now she's back and we're going to see what

she's made of in this race. So I think that's a really

compelling storyline. You had Lakara, who won that

acorn. She had won the Ashland two

starts before that set the pace on the Kentucky Oaks and then

faded. But she was supposed to be in

the coaching club, American Oaks.

She got scratched because of that quarantine that they placed

on the barn the morning of. And Mark, Cassie, you know, I've

been talking to him a lot over the last couple days and he said

that, you know, he doesn't, he's not concerned at all about her

fitness going into this. You know, the train, the way

she's been training and everything is the way you want.

But he is concerned about the fact that she didn't miss a

start and the plan was to go into the Alabama with that

coaching club of American Oaks under her belt already.

So it'll be interesting to see whether she is, you know, fully

at her top level when she's coming back in now off a 2 month

layoff. And then on top of that, also

from the Mark Cassie barn, you have nitrogen making.

Her. Do you like her running this

race? I do.

Like her running in in this race, I think it's always

exciting when you see a horse from a different surface switch

to and take on some of these top horses, whether that be dirt to

turf or turf to dirt. I mean, we saw, I was excited to

see Mystic Dan in the Arlington Million even though it was

worth, but it was exciting to see that.

And you know, this is a different scenario because we

have already seen her run on the dirt.

It was a different kind of race. The race was washed off the turf

by the rain. You know she but she didn't, she

was facing two horses who were probably more turf horses.

So you can't really put too much into her margin of victory.

But Mark's really pleased with the way that she moved in that

race. And he keeps pointing out, I

believe it was a December 19th workout that she had on the dirt

last year that gave him the confidence to stay in the stay

in that race on Belmont weekend and then come back in this spot

here in the Alabama. I think the distance should be

good for her and we'll see whether or not she can handle

the surface against this competition.

But I think those those three Phillies are three legit

Phillies, three top of the line Phillies.

I think when we did our mid season awards a few.

I was going. To say they're all three of them

were mentioned. So it'll be exciting to see

which one of them can potentially pull it off.

And then you also have a, you know, an interesting supporting

cast and Margie's intention. You have Queen Azteca, who's

coming in from the Swedish Derby, which we talked to Barry

Irwin about that last week. And Kinzie Queen, I believe, is

the name of the other Philly that's in there.

And so it's a, it's a small field, but the top talent in

this field is really interesting.

And if we did get an upset from one of the other three, I think

that would also be a super interesting story.

Last year there was a lot of hype, deservedly when Torpedo

Anna ran in the Traverse. I think there's going to be a

little bit of that this weekend with nitrogen in the Alabama.

Just switching the surfaces, trying to distance, doing all

the stuff. I think people think very highly

of her, really are looking for that because unlike sovereignty

or journalism or whatever you wanna do on the cold side of

thing, this year with three-year olds, last year was very easy to

know who to root for. Her name is Torpedo Anna.

True. I'm not sure we have that with

the Phillies this year. Now I think people, I like

Lucaro, I like Nitrogeno, I like the Cheerio, you know, whatever.

I don't know that we have that stand out three-year old Philly

and we almost always do. I don't know why, but we almost

always do don't seem to have one.

I think this race could go pretty far distance to

determining who that is. Look, if Goodchear wins this

race bounces right back. We're talking just that division

again, right? Because I after the acorn, it

did not feel good. And and so if she shows up in a

serious way this weekend, I will be talking to Steph again.

For sure, yeah, yeah. If she, if she shows up the way

that she was in the Oaks and all the starts before that, then

she's right back at the top of the division.

I think it's probably a wide she wants again as a wide margin

between her and 2nd. If she comes plate this weekend,

it'll always be the Queen's Plate to me.

What say you, Sean? Well, for me, it's the King's

Plate because I, I know, well, that's because the, the one, I

have to say the one I attended because I went last year and it

got cancelled. So it didn't really count as

attending it. But the I started attending it

once it was switched to the King's Plate.

So for me, that's I obviously, I know I, I have no opposition to

anybody calling it the Queen's Plate.

You know, for me, you know, that was a big thing going to it.

For the well, what's funny is we'll probably have the same

amount of time where it's called the King's Plate as we did being

called the Queen's Plate. It was.

I don't. We don't have any out of

Michigan for a long time, do we? King's played for a minute, Yeah

right. So anyways, but that'll be a fun

one as well. Obviously the Triple Crown in

Canada. 3 different surfaces which I have always appreciated.

I know. I think that's really

interesting. That's an interesting Triple

Crown because when you look at all the different Triple Crowns

across the world, that usually is.

I mean, obviously here in America we're on dirt.

Most of Europe obviously going to be on turf, but even in like

Japan, the Triple Crown's on the turf or they have been starting

up the, the dirt Triple Crown. It's interesting for the

country's feature Triple Crown to be all three surfaces.

I, I do really think that's interesting.

I was lucky a couple years ago I got to go to the Kings play and

the Prince of Wales and had Paramount Prince won the Prince

of Wales, I would have went back for the for the Breeders Stakes

as well and completed the Triple Crown.

But it's fun racing both at Woodbine and 40 Erie.

I always enjoy going to both of those places.

All right, looking forward to those this weekend.

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