Rachel @RacingRachelM & Louis @LouisRabaut take a look ahead to the late pick 5 sequence on Caesars Stakes Day at Horseshoe Indianapolis.
Caesars Stakes Day Preview!
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To welcome in Tuesday edition. Horse racing.
Happy hour here at Horseshoe Indianapolis alongside reaching
racing. Rachel not reaching reysol
reaching reysol. It's a delicious one.
I blew your Revell. Thanks for hanging out with us
today. Ahead of Caesar Stakes day
tomorrow. The opener of the big grass
races here at Indianapolis at Horseshoe Indianapolis.
I'm still getting used to that. By the way everybody is everyone
really is not do not yell at me for that.
However you know what I've seen some people on TV G which is Ali
sneaky is they will mention Indiana Grand and they'll say
previously, and when I'm talking about this race, it wasn't even
a grant. So they're technically not
wrong. Yeah, I like that the word
previously coming in very handy here and so we're going to talk
about actually is the light pick five tomorrow that will start in
race? I think in race five.
Yeah. With an allowance rooms
actually. Before we get to that though, I
have to ask name change, of course right?
Horseshoe Indianapolis. We have purged ourselves of all
the Indiana Grand things. Yes, yes.
They're all And while I was on maternity leave, everybody took
them all from me. We found some Thirsty Thursdays,
okay? I didn't we?
Yep, you and I the shrine of kuzey and that's all that the
Untamed Thursday, we that's all this last, very not tamed on
Thursday and integrate out horseshoe Indianapolis.
And I love the Horseshoe, though.
I mean, I think course, you know the logos do like that's not the
issue here, that it's not the logo.
It's just how many make changes do we need?
I know. It's all right, so it's so just
an update on the wagering menu. So the first race now instead of
Starting with the pick five starting with a pick for, right?
But I think it's been a really fruitful move for you.
It has it's been really really popular and so we saw over a
hundred thirty five thousand dollars better to race one
today. So looking forward to tomorrow
to the stakes day that will be really exciting.
Lots of money in that early part of the car, a couple of diamond
claimers that kind of thing at the early part of the car
tomorrow. So if you want to check that
out, that's where you really can find some value.
Just to give you an idea today, four, five, six, horse Fields,
minimum pay on the pick four days could be $500.
So yeah, 50 one-dollar horse won.
So I think Probably tomorrow could be a similar case.
I like that we have an all Stakes picked for also know
that's right. The gamblers love that and I
mean take five is really popular and this allows is really nice
race to set it off. But I always love when we have
all Stakes pick fours because it just seems like people really
get into that. And I appreciate that the end
the sequences with a with a Stakes race.
Right? So often you get stuck with a
claim or something at the. Yeah, exactly.
That's exactly right now. That'll be a good part for us
tomorrow. Pick five take out, right?
I always remind people. One of the lowest in the land
eleven point nine, nine percent under 12% so definitely
vegetable especially day like tomorrow we are looking at some
wet weather for tomorrow and so I do think there's a chance for
example that allow its will be off the turf right to get it
ready for those later races, the to Indiana State idiot up bread,
steaks before that are going to be on the dirt so that there's
no change there for at least four where they're going to be
running. And so, just look for those Turf
races later in the day, my sense is it's going to be have to be
really freaking Rhett for them to have to be really, really
well. A three or three or four, but I
think since I'm just going to go ahead and say it, there are some
storms in the forecast, so just keep an eye on the weather, but
we have ran last year, we were in the Preston Madden steaks on
a wet Turf. So, I mean, we'll probably save
it, like, we just alluded to. Yeah.
If you, if you look in those on there in the previous for this
place, you'll see, yielding Course once in a while, right?
So it's not as though. They won't try it here.
That doesn't happen. We do try to save it though.
Whenever there is a ton of rain then we'll just take it off,
which can be Fuses the heck out of people.
But what am I going to do? I'm just I'm fighting that
battle for the rest of my life because we will start did raise
five with that allowance. It's a high-level allowance to
Total Turf winners among the ten starters tomorrow, and that is a
forty one thousand dollar purse for Indiana, sired horses, and
by Indiana stallions 3 or 3 years old and up, which is never
won those two races. I think there's a good chance
that this one's going to be off the turf, in which case It's a
very bendable Pick 5 because I think there are two horses that
you really look for here. I think the five over-the-top
Justice is actually really interesting entry here.
Good experience over the dirt. And at two, turns here at
Horseshoe Indianapolis, highest lifetime speed fig is over a
wet. Go actually.
It's so I love that about over-the-top Justice.
I would also look at the 10 grand in Bay who is slated to
try Turf for the first time but if Chariton glacially, slow
start up here. But on the year hitting near
twenty percent. So if you take those Indiana
numbers are actually hitting really, really well down south.
And so I'm hoping to pick up some of that form getting back.
I would really concentrate on those 2 5 and 10.
If we're off the terpenes really I like the for Nate's
heartthrob. If you look off the turf has a
couple of seconds two and a third on and off track.
So I have the for actually on top in that race.
Now, I look at this the other day before, I even knew that
there was rain. So I'm just going off, strictly
off how I see the race right now.
If it rains, I always take the morning to go.
My pics that day and switch them up, just a little bit and do my
key plays and everything. That's something that a lot of
people realize like today I got a tweet and they were like, oh
the 13s and your pics. Yes.
Well, when I handicap this morning at 9 a.m. the 13 was it
and I did just wanted to include it, in case it was scratched.
So but yeah, I think Nate's heartthrob is definitely one
that I'm going to include the 5 and the 10 for sure, probably
going to be on my ticket. But this field of tin depending
on how many scratch after that is, how you're going to be able
to start. It off this pick this Pick 5,
but definitely, there's a lot of scratches.
You could pick one of these horses that you think has the
best numbers on and off track and try to go with that.
And maybe a backup is how I would treat this one.
If we get a low lucky, we get to stay on the turf here.
I'm actually going to try to beat the for Nate's heartthrob,
I think trabert Rock Trader, Robert.
Goren doesn't do two things. Well that he's asking this horse
to do, he doesn't win on Turf, he's over 21 and he goes dirt to
Turf at zero percent over the last 18.
So big ass for a horse that's going to be 9 to 5 to 21 kind of
bet if it's The turf. Give me the seven Mansfield
tiger here trainer. Marvin Johnson comes in second
off the layoffs at 26%. He's already hitting it. 20% for
the Meetup here. Had to move to the to Peta, at
Turf way to break is made in. But I like that, it's a return
to a non dirt surface here, and so if we get that move, we stay
on the turf there, I'll play the seven and that's horses that
transfer, you know, from the poly do like the turf a little
bit. So this one's, you know, never
ran on the Indiana Turf trying the grass for the first time,
but did break the maidan on Paulie.
So some promise there was probably a Marvin's, the Making
almost certainly. Okay.
So we'll start with, we'll get into the stakes here in verse 6
which is the Sagamore sired so this is a hundred thousand
dollar Perseus did notice. I mean you guys are crushing it
up here. Now this was the 75,000 dollar
race maybe last year two years ago, even right?
So that you know, the money's in the purses.
Now this is for Indiana side. Three-year-olds.
Okay. So open company here as far as
geldings Colts or Phillies. And so I think that there's a
major player in here and then you would have to convince me
pretty heavily to look another place.
How do you feel about it? I agree to it, mr.
Chaos just looks like the one here 343.
Broke the maiden at first asking my seven links.
I mean, you don't really have to go through the PPS, really.
Very far to see that this one's numbers are all standing as
well. So I look at Birds net, speed
figures in there. Good, I like pickle feet.
Yep, I agree with my pick of the day, it ran and broke the
maiden. And I had a hunch play and
honestly I put it in, I think for second just because I love
the name and it looked like it was training well as you know,
to So coming off that one back April, 19th coming back again
here. One month out a nice timing.
I think, for this three-year-old Colt, so I like pickle fee.
I'm definitely going to include him as a backup.
Even I wouldn't mind if you singled, but you know what?
I don't really the one thing I don't mind younger versus older.
I don't want that kind of stuff doesn't bother me.
The one thing that does bother me is making it four in a row,
even though a couple of these were last year.
It's just tough to do that. And the At the luck gods or
whatever you want to call it, but two in a row, you know,
going from an allowance 126 company and beating this group
is going to be a big ask for mr. Chaos even though he looks the
best on paper so I'd probably on my thing I'm going to do 16.
Okay? The only thing about pickle feet
that really bothered me with workout times.
Actually 38 s 34 longer before that up bucks six-minute six
over five furlongs, don't love the look of that one.
I like the March first one though.
Oh I understand those are good one well and then you know
follow that up in April with a win.
So it's not as though you know it looks bad back then just
looks a little bit slower since then you're right.
Here's how cheers. Yeah, we didn't years ago here
at the track last year in the crowd Ambassador listed.
Six comes back in. It opened company 3 and up winds
at the allowance level by open links, over older horses.
Some that have actually come back and perform very well since
then. And so I'm going to I'm going to
lean on mr. Cass three year old gelding
horse. Then you might hear a lot here.
Frankly, in the coming years. I'm gonna give you guys a long
shot in this race wishy-washy who won with Marcelino aboard
just gets John kitten Court. Just last out, broke the made in
this first time with winners, I get it's a Stakes race but this
is one that I'm going to play my Exotics.
I'm talking pick five, ticket, maybe not wishy-washy, a flower
crushes in these Indiana, bread States, you guys and he's sneaky
good. So be sure to put a little bit
of money, maybe in a super try for wishy-washy.
If you want an another long shot horse, Here the eight, high
cotton, Justice coming out of that.
Coming out of another open allowance race at the five for a
long distance wins by open links with Hosea.
Jesus were coming. I can remember I'm sorry.
Jesus, Jesus, you know, Jose, what's also?
I was thinking he's casting. Yeah, I know he's peppering the
board 39 runs. He's already hit the board's
twenty times here. Over 50% and so just just an
absolute crushing starts to be. If you're looking for a longer
shot maybe on the wet course here.
Horse unfortunately is 0 for 3 on the wet course.
Things did not like it but if you wanted one that maybe maybe
it's muddy by then something like that.
You might land on the eight hike on Justice, our track is a track
that when the surface changes it gets a little random out here
with horses, got up. Alright.
So this will move to the seventh race than this is the Swift, the
Swifty sired Phillies, it's a hundred thousand dollar race as
well. Another five and a half for A
longer Sprint for Indiana, sired three-year-old, Phillies, in
this case. And unlike the Colts I die, and
geldings. I think this is a much, much
more gas, more open field here. Yes, for sure.
Six. And I like the 12, even though
it's for you and I went on the same horse stuff, I don't know
who I'm going to put on top yet. Like I said, I did this a couple
days ago. I didn't have any odds or
anything. It was just on the overnight,
but definitely a nice looking through your old Filly by
readies image. Comment, just really consistent
girl. I mean, heck, she's not only not
hit the board once so finished in the top 30, pretty
impressive. So, Lily V.
And I like unbridled Victory, George Leonard.
Great guy just ran a horse in the Breeders Cup.
You guys might remember and then my hunch play Long play in this
one that I think I am going to put on my ticket is muddy boots.
Manny and sippy have really good numbers together.
Cipriano all such as well and these non graded, stakes races
in one the made and I thought pretty impressively even though
it was a five horse race, she just looked so Classy like she
had done it a million times when she won.
So I've definitely put an asterisk beside her.
So muddy. Boots is my long shot.
Yeah, that's one to look at and we tell people on the show,
don't just stare at the speed figure and assume, you know, the
race 101 and a Pfeiffer longer when you win by open links means
that you probably weren't pressing at the end.
And so, she was probably pretty comfortable.
Probably ran closer to a 59 or a minute there in the five
furlongs, I laid it on a bunch of horses here but I totally
agree about the 12. Little Evie who breaks from the
outside rein in an open allowance.
Last time to talk about With the Colts last in the last race,
only missed by a length and a half against older competition.
This is second off the layoffs for a trainer came Hammond, who
hits it. 19% and the with those types of Runners having a pop
Health early in the meeting at 24% here at Horseshoe
Indianapolis. And if you wanted to spread here
and I think you really could, I will be, I'm going to include
the two, three, four, and six here in my longer tickets.
I'm actually going to use all five of those horses here.
I'll give you some examples here, Roxy son, One Last Time
against open D at the five for a long distance in a minute, over
a length over older company. No trust was in that race as
well. So you see some of these these
girls coming back to race against each Victory.
A the to the right, so John Court stays on there, right?
And we know the jug cord and those talked about this about
that he does it out of the gate, he's ready to go, great in these
sorts of Sprints, this could be where you get the lead keep
Elite, especially if it's wet. We see that a lot.
I think acutely he's got a serious shot here.
Want her last two Last time, by the way, over a month ago and so
interesting that if we see a muddy go with acutely, coming
here, you get to Sean, Parker, lose, B, Bryson butterfly.
And I was actually thinking about this last night, when I
was looking at the form, that he was so good.
When he was here. We took him for granted.
We did, he immediately graduated to that Marilyn circuit.
Yep. And now he's doing great over
there. It is he I haven't even used.
Always like 16, 17 percent. That's competitive.
Absolutely, especially, when you're in that just coming out
of that, out of the, The Apprentice stage and so do He's
been doing really, really well you know this this really has
been run a really really great Ron Draper, not great off the
laughs, but doesn't have a lot of experience either.
We see him a lot more with Quarter.
Horses, doesn't mean she doesn't have a shot here especially with
the Sean Parker who's been riding very very well here this
meat hitting hitting the board a ton needs to pick it up in the
wind department but with the Sean that's that's almost never
a real question. Everyone knows his way around
horses. He's one quarter horse leading
titles and he's had a couple good Thoroughbred so I wouldn't
discount that at all, that's right.
And then other six. Who also won over a sloppy go
last year at the Indiana. Stallion series it for the
Phillies is unbridled Victory, the six Marcelino preserve.
Pedroza here, along with George Leonard, who you mentioned,
Cowboy George get back in here. Not great or not.
Great first time with trainer here and not great off the light
off with George but if you doubt him, good luck.
Getting this place horse. Just trained over a sloppy.
Go by the way, beginning of this month, and then came back.
We're at a 59 second. Almost the almost the bullet.
Over the five for a long work on May 10th, here it is.
And so, I really interested actually this race.
I think notice that that work was Onslaught, nice.
Yeah. As wide open as I've seen in any
of these pictures is very, very cool.
And so, especially if we get that off track.
I think a real chance at a price in race.
Seven. This Swifty.
Sired. Phillies.
All right. Moving on Race.
Eight. Then getting into the getting
into the big one. So he's used to be a hundred
thousand dollar races and never look at 150,000 dollar races.
Not he's not he's our the the major Turf races to open the
season here at Horseshoe Indianapolis.
Fifty thousand dollars for the Phillies, something cool on the
card here. Back-to-back Philly races, which
I don't know. I'm kind of a nerd for those
things. It's okay.
Of course, here, is that, right? And so the Mi starts a little
bit behind the Finish Line. Cool.
And that's why when we do my own 70, and always scratches and it
ends up being on the surface for a mile and a half.
So yeah, well, there are 70, yeah, Mi 70.
So there you go. So it's just a little bit behind
that you get a little bit of a rut up into that first turn.
So you have a horse on the outside, not the end of the
world, you actually get a little bit of a chance to make.
Remove Rachel, did you lay it on anybody here?
You know what? I can't decide between.
This is an interesting race. First of all, I rode Artis is
coming here to ride, which I don't think.
If he shows up, that's cool. It's gets his writing.
Paco. Lopez is going to be here.
You're directly. Yep.
Amber was fully very excited to see some of these guys.
Some of them have come here shirts.
We switched obviously with their at Churchill and whatnot but I'm
really excited about who's coming to ride and I'm really
excited about this race and Caesars even even though it's a
little bit, It short of a field but I like the three.
I think, off the top of my head, I like the to, I like the 6 and
then I don't know how I'm going to put in after that, but I'm
going to try to find a little bit of a long shot, and I might
even go with the longest shot. One of the longest shots in the
morning, line is louder than words is might be my big long
shot that I put in, for my Exotics.
But yeah, the three Bravo kitten is who I really like Safi.
Joseph looks really good. I know that the two is coming
out of six company and this one is Untested, but honestly,
fresher and really, really impressive and tough company.
It Keeneland, those Turf races are no joke, the fields were
full twelve and eleven horse fields, and very nice s with
Umberto and he comes here to ride this Philly.
So I think that's a huge. You know, three-year-old
daughter of kittens. Joy, gotta love the ramseys
Katie used to ride here. Love Katie, shout out to my girl
and her cute little baby that she has.
That's going to be my Houston's future.
Your wife subtle both already, you're one of those moms, you
just like marriages for your babies at the same time.
You always say that as a joke like like my girlfriend that's a
couple months older than him and we're already getting the
matching outfits like you have to do that as a mom, right?
But yeah. So I'm thinking three to six and
then I'm gonna throw in the nine lolloping.
Brad Cox always crushes. I would not be shocked at this.
One comes over ready to go high. Ran a really nice race since it
made me break a back and February but just like you said,
Brad Cox. He has come in here and he does
really well in Indiana so well everywhere, but he really knows
how to play some so though that one I'm definitely gonna throw
in. So that's me. 326 probably and
then he'll marry long shot you and I have the same top three.
I'm actually most interested in Bravo kitten because we're
getting back to a mile and I think she doesn't want much more
than a mile. That mile on US 68 the violent
3/16, that's where we saw the faint who's within a length?
Both of the times at a mile and just didn't have enough to kick
in Finish better rispoli? Not a great start at Churchill
Downs, so far. But I think that a fresh course,
here actually will give him a chance to pick up some of that
Turf form that we really expected from him.
When we watched him in California, I totally agree
about the to a little love and luck it running at very good
company. Like you mentioned in those
stakes races, including in the Florida, Oaks in that grade 3,
Part with Paco Lopez only lost by four and a half lengths.
There should Factor here already has a listed Stakes win, and I
do like that they're bringing in Paco Lopez for the day.
I think that I'm going to include the six and seven that I
wrote in my notes. I'm going to feel dumb.
If those connections win. Brad Cox and brother moment is
Brendon. Walsh anatomist gets a man,
really limited sample size here to 43 but overall 19 percent
between those two guys and Adam start to get more of his mouths
at Churchill Downs, which It tells me something as well.
A lot of those mounts down the fairgrounds as well.
We've seen those Fairgrounds shippers do well everywhere.
So not just here but also, you know, Churchill Downs, in other
places. It's been interesting to watch
them ship out and do really, really well as in those spots.
And so I'll go with those four, but if you wanted to make a case
for other horses, I would totally believe you.
I do. I do think they're thrown the.
I want to say they're throwing the blinkers on the three Bravo
kitten to try to get her the lead.
Yep. Because I think they want her to
be out front at this mile distance because they see her as
Truly a mile problem not doing anything else like that and so I
think the Savage Joseph just says Hey blinkers on on front 20
gilding course. It's going to be really hard to
catch up right. Get that dig in.
My sense is they really think the provocation could go out
front and stay out front as much as we said it's going to be
yielding watch only right? Right.
I'm here for it, that's fine. By the way, I want to be really
clear about to give out the ticket later, if they're on the
turf for the allowance race. I'm not touching the pig 5
because I think that that's her, phrase is ridiculous.
It means that you can get a price really competitive, you
got 100 bucks or 100 bucks the throat of pick five.
That's that's a that's a spot where you get a Series pressure
I think it'll be well well over $1000 well over $2000 maybe but
I do think the possible buzzkill of the sequence could be in this
this final race, the Caesars hundred fifty thousand dollars.
Three year olds a mile on that Turf again.
Do we have the same buzzkill horse?
I went with the three in here. Well, I'm going against Tommy be
which I don't think a lot of We're going to do and honestly,
I don't know why I keep going against Brad, Cox.
Like, but really the more I look at it.
Tyler gospel eons. Hot.
Yep. As of late.
This one was a nicer to Milan 16th on a good good.
Turf course, I might add and I really just think that Tommy be
is going to not like a not like anything, but hard grass and
it's not that that's not that tough out here right now.
I mean, it's still soft. It's been spring, not that it It
would be yielding or good or whatever, but it's not really
firm. Like it is in the South already
probably. So, and he just ran April 29th.
I'm going with play action pass on top now.
I have no clue about the rest. Listen, I did hear that play
action pass. We'll just ran Sunday, right?
And so, he might be out given that I probably might end up
with the, for stitched is pretty interesting, coming out of that,
Churchill win. This is a tough group.
American pure just came out of wind.
So I'm going to right now because I honestly have just
handicapped and we're about to get a race call in the
background of our podcast today is honestly, I don't know yet
about the Caesars. Takes to tell you the truth, I
looked at it, I handicapped it. I know there's at least one
scratch in this field. So I'm just going to go ahead
and tell you that I like these horses in the middle 3, 4 5, 6
are the ones I like, depending on who stays in and what happens
with the weather? I don't know.
But it's Obviously, one of those right?
Because it's just an a horse. So, Rachel has a more developed
program with more of a description in here.
If you're on my form, it just says 43, year-old tell you the
weight conditions or anything from the weights of the horses.
So a lot of times it has to deal with if they've won at a certain
level coming into this race. And so if you see a horse
carrying 123 instead of 119, that means that that horse is
wanted a higher level than the Is that are carrying less
weight. And so what are those horses?
This time you be the 45 that you mentioned stitched is one of
those horses as well. Mention it Mi on the turf at
Churchill Downs, is a to turn race.
Okay, horse did have the rail went out front stayed out front.
Obviously they're going to try to do that.
So the question is, is Toby be going to try to go with the
horse. My sense is know, they're happy
to be in the middle of the pack there.
Stalking third, fourth fifth, that kind of position and just
try to make a race of it at the end if you want to the local
horse, it's pretty clearly The American pure going to the turf
to try. This one.
The the thing I have to say that I'm interested in that hasn't
come up. Yet is Rodolfo such as Solomon
whose shipping and two horses for these races from Laurel who
have equipped are not Turf horses.
So shake them loose. Has the seven, he was actually
on the Preakness Trail and ran in the Federico.
Tessio ran third, he was actually two point four, two one
that day. So almost the favorite
essentially. Okay, in the first race, the in
the excuse me. The Horseshoe Indianapolis which
is for the Phillies Embrace 8, he has click to confirm both of
these. Both of these horses are going
to be written by on Hell, cruise with are flying in from from
Pimlico actually to ride these horses.
She's coming out of high level. Essentially either listed Stakes
or optional claimers, he's moving them to Turf to try these
races. Those could be your wild cards
in the weekend. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jump up. Shake them loose has a really
nice cold. Frankly bought the horse for A
thousand dollars. He's made almost math.
Just doesn't support the private terms which is a Preakness prep
going into the Federico Tessie, osis, serious horse right on the
Maryland circuit and so something to watch when we get
there tomorrow. If they do for some reason move
to the main track. I think that the nine is a
single you take Kuchar and you move on with her widowed per se
analysis. Shark coming out of Oakland Park
running in some random the Oakland listed Stakes last time.
Plus Alex grade wood winter comes in on that as well.
And also, I wouldn't discount the other reason why I think, if
the threes out, I see they're going to be the fourth 5 for me,
but flow comes every year for Indiana Derby and for some of
our big Stakes he knows the truck really well, I Rod not so
much, you know what I mean? So and Vincent just want to race
today. So definitely I have found.
I've been here for 10 years and I have found that a jockey that
Comes in and rides here. I don't care how good they are.
It's it's not like going to church.
I wanted we have one exception last year.
That was the Indiana Oaks when Flavia and Pratt came back and
won the Indiana Oaks out of nowhere.
That is the only exception I can think Derby Days.
Okay, there you go. So, that's not very much, and I
think that is kind of put a negative in my, my heart that
day because I was It's a little bit wild sometimes so yeah, I am
definitely going to finalize my opinion but it's going to be
those bulk. That you pretty much what you
just talked about is my game plan real quick.
My base pick four is ten bucks so single in the first one mr.
Chaos and then I have taught me about last as a single and then
put the rest in the kids college fund.
Yeah right. And then I have five horses in
that second leg 2 3 4 6 and 12 and then the two three six and
seven in the Filly side of things ahead of Of the Caesars
in that horseshoe Indianapolis stakes.
And so, like I said, if they're off the turf in that fifth race,
I will play the five of the ten, and I will lean on those, and I
will play a twenty dollar pick five with that Base ticket as
well. Alright, so I will tell you guys
want. My ticket is for sure, later, we
go as as the resident track handicapper, I have days and
days to handicap all at once. And then I finalize, my key
plays in the morning, so I will tweet it out.
Follow me everything, mutually in, there you go, find us that
horse happy hour, of course I'm at Louis Robo on Twitter.
Thanks for joining us today. Here at Horseshoe Indianapolis.
Good luck on Tuesday. Awesome.
Okay. Now, I have to run upstairs to
do Twitter.