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Yes, welcome into a hurricane affected edition of the Horse

Racing Happy Hour. His name's Dan Ellman.

I'm Louis Rabo here in my backyard in Louisville, KY.

How about that? There's a tree.

Look, see a tree. How about that?

Dan lives somewhere with no trees.

How are you, Dan? There are some trees around

here, but I don't get to clear that off, you know, stuck in

this office, handicapping races that are transferred from

Saturday to Sunday. We're not even being scheduled

at all. Race tracks across the country

canceling tonight, tomorrow, Saturday.

I heard you're the reason they canceled that Evangeline

tonight. Is that true?

That's. The reason they call me

Hurricane Omen, I take down the pool from there and they're just

not used to it. Eden Evangeline, how about that?

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tonight. A real question.

I don't know if the answer is as obvious as I think it is, but

say a move from Saturday to Sunday on the Arlington Million,

does that change your handicapping very much?

No, not really. I mean, I'm just expecting that

this turf course, no matter what day they're going to run on, is

going to be very, very soft and I think you should adjust your

handicapping accordingly. I mean, I guess there's a chance

that it could wash things off the turf for some of the

undercard races, but I think on Saturday that would have been a

given. So it's a good move to move it

to Sunday. It's not going to affect my

handicapping that much. We'll see.

Some of these horses are cross entered elsewhere, whether it be

up in Saratoga or still waiting on decisions for several of

these connections. Yeah, it'll be interesting to

watch all of those come together for sure.

But we had a couple of interesting races last week,

Dan, that I wanted to watch with you today.

Let's start with Arthur's ride. When's the Whitney up there?

I remember making the comment last week on the show, what if

Bill Mott just does this again and he does this again?

Hasn't won a Whitney before, but now he has.

Here is Arthur's ride. Lengths to disarm who is racing

about a length and a half in front of Croupy starting to

launch his bid. Bright future far back, 110 and

one for six furlongs. Top of the stretch for Arthur's

ride, chased intently by Skippy, Long Stocking and National

Treasure. Still with plenty of work to do.

Post time is next and Croupy coming fast in the center of the

race track. A 16th to go and Arthur's ride

still has a commanding lead. What a tremendous day and stakes

competition. All right.

Well, there you go. A very excited race call there

from Frank Miramati up at Saratoga, as you should be.

Frankly, it was a bit of a surprising outcome there, Dan.

If you put that next to the Preakness and you just had the

two Gray horses out front and then two horses chasing

furiously at the end and we put them on the same reel, would it

look exactly the same? I think would look exactly the

same. Absolutely.

Listen, this, this the, this handicapped division needed a

wow performance, didn't it? I mean no disrespect to send

your buscador, who's very, very good.

Hopefully we'll see him at Delamar.

I think they're going to gradually wind him back up.

Maybe the Pat O'Brien that's going 7 might be the way back

for him. No disrespect to National

Treasures, had an exceptional year, but we needed a wow

performance for a horse to really sort of take this

division by the throat. And that performance, I know it

was on a wet track, but he played National Treasures game,

and that game is speed. And when you can output National

Treasures to the front and take that field wire to wire the way

this source did, that's very, very impressive.

I'm expecting Bill Mott's going to run this horse right back in

the Jockey Club Gold Cup. He's going to be big favor in

that race and if he wins probably two months to the

Breeders Cup Classic and he is a massive speed player in that

race. I mean, looking at what is this

sitecalleddrf.com, they come out with weekly ratings within the

divisions in the in the older dirt males.

This horse jumped to the second spot, Dan, right behind the

aforementioned Senor Buscador. Are we starting to, I mean, do

you think Belmont's starting to to dream with this horse just

because I, like you said, I'm not at all sure.

We've been blown away by anyone in the Breeders Cup Classic

division, if you will. Oh, I think Billmont certainly

believes in this source. This source was always good.

It's a shame that his career was sort of derailed for a little

while by some lengthy layoffs, but I think Bill's gotten this

source back right now and he knows what he wants to do with

this or that sent him to the front.

He just played a really dangerous speed game with

National Treasure. It just seems a National

Treasure is not as good when he doesn't make the lead in these

major races. That's something that maybe Bob

Barrett's going to have to work on with National Treasure down

the road. I know, I think that I think

Bill knows what he has with this horse and he's managed him very,

very well. I think the Jockey Club was kind

of the main plan. That was the bridge Whitney to

the Breeders Cup Classic. Let's get him to the Jockey

Club, prove him at a distance aground.

I don't think he's going to have a problem with it.

Do you think he was a race earlier than Bill Moth thought

he was going to be? No, I don't think so.

I think Bill, he knew what he had.

I don't think, I think Bill again, really wanted a point for

the Jockey Club, but I don't think he just popped in this

race and Bill's going to say, wow, he's going to bounce in the

Jockey Club. I think the Jockey Club, he

might have scared some horses off with that performance.

He'll get some nice older horses in that race.

But I think with his speed, there's a chance he could just

control the race in the Whitney. On paper, look like there was a

ton of speed in the race and he just was faster than all of

them. Yeah, the best buyer of anyone

going two turns on dirt this year in North America was that

race. Speaking of running behind him

was national treasure, conditions, travel, etcetera.

Do we expect a better version of him at Del Mar in the Breeders

Cup? I, I think you should.

I think the wet track is a natural excuse, but I would have

liked to have seen him run a little bit better.

And again you. Didn't run well at all this

right? He's been on very well and I

think it's we're at the point where he sort of hooks up when

he gets to the front and he gets to the lead.

And I think he gets a little bit discouraged when he's playing a

chase game. And I think that's what happened

at Saratoga. So I don't know if he's fast

enough to get the lead from Arthur's right on a fast track,

but I think that's going to be the plan.

The next time they face, if they do face, is that National

Treasure is going to really try to take the race to Arthur's

right and make him take a seat. It'll be an interesting game of

chicken, maybe sets things up for a closer.

I, I'm interested because Saudi Crown, I love this stuff.

Saudi crown runs for 20 million bucks and misses by less than a

length. Earlier this year he's running

in the Cowboy Jones for a buck and 1/2 at Ellis on Sunday.

I, I, I think part of this and if in, in other interviews that

I've had with Brad Cox, he has talked a lot about getting

confidence in horses, right, getting them to a point where

they, they win races, they see themselves at the front again.

I totally expect that's what it is.

Where does Saudi Crown fit in your potentials for Breeders'

Cup Classic type horses? Well, I think we're going to

find out in the next race where he sort of fits because, yes,

it's going to be a confidence booster, but considering the

quality of competition he's facing, he should win.

I'm really not worried off the layoff and I think Brad not only

wants to see him when I think he wants to see him put on his

show. Where does he fit?

Is it going to be the Breeders Cup Classic or does Brad say we

got a late start with them back from overseas?

Is it the Breeders Cup Dirt Mile, A race where the source is

tactical and natural speed can help them sort of control the

pace? I'm not exactly sure where

they're going to go with this source.

Obviously Brad would love to run them in the Classic, but I'm a

little worried that maybe there are some distance concerns there

that he still might have. That being said, first mission

was so bad, albeit on a website. Maybe Brad needs the source.

No, that might be right. I just you know, it is an

interesting in between because the horse is good at a mile.

He just is. It's OK to say it wasn't great

last out. But I mean, I don't know.

I don't know how much stock I put in the the Arabian Peninsula

races in this case, but I mean a horse named Saudi crowd should

run better in Riyadh, but it is what it is.

All right, So the that division turning into an interesting one,

which is fun, which is the best of the three-year olds there,

Dan is it? Is it Doorknuck at this point?

Odornox, the most accomplished horse at this point and you have

to respect any horse that as the speed is able to carry that

speed a distance of ground with the courage that the horse has

shown in his last two races. Is he the best one?

Well, I guess with mine frame now on the shelf, he probably is

the best one. I'm curious to see what happens

if he and Fierceness just sort of go at it for a prolonged 3

furlongs. Is he going to be able to turn

away Fierceness as easily as he did mind frame in his last two?

And it wasn't exactly easy. The waters keep getting deeper.

It's so hard. It's so amazing to say this

source won the Belmont right the one last time out in impressive

fashion. It's still going to keep getting

deeper for the source because a lot of these other three-year

olds are still just improving. The second season 3 year olds

are going to make a surge. If you weren't impressed with

the first season, 3 year olds. And unfortunately, Mystic Dan's

going to be out for the rest of the year.

Keep an eye on some of these sources.

And again, Forever Young is lurking somewhere in Japan.

I would expect him to come back. I think he might be the best

one. I think you may be right there.

Let's move to our next replay. This will be Ways and Means and

I would do want to talk about her because I think she's in and

what's become an exceedingly interesting Philly and Mare

Sprint division. So let's go to that.

This was the test last weekend at Saratoga.

She wins over the seven furlongs there and frankly, I thought she

looked really good. Stride Ways and Means puts her

neck in front past the quarter pole, my main squeeze trying to

come after them in 3rd. They have 3 sixteenths of a mile

to go. Ways and Means puts away Emery

and opens up to my main squeeze, running a good race on the

outside and Denim and Pearls in fourth coming to the 16th pole

and Ways and Means is now a grade one winner handwritten by

Flavian Pratt to win the test. Flavian Pratt, he's made some

money this year. Good move to New York for that

guy did a just a fantastic job on her.

Never got the never got out the crop or anything like that.

It's an interesting division, Dan, because we're looking at

say, I mean for sure in that group of the older, you know,

turf females. We're certainly talking about

Vava as far as sprinting, but we've seen some, you know,

goodnight Oliver tires other things move up.

Is there any way that Ways and Means, you know, another race,

maybe two races before we get to that Breeders' Cup, that she's

part of that equation when we get to that Saturday in

November? I think she's a major part of

that equation and that's no disrespect to the Phillies that

we've seen sprinting right now, especially Vava, who you

mentioned, just seems to show up each and every time with a rock

solid good effort. But I think the case can be made

the Ways and Means is still so lightly raced.

We may not have even seen her best and that's pretty scary.

Remember, this is a horse that showed a ton of talent from day

one. Debut winner last year at

Saratoga. Super impressive performance.

She was the favored in the spin away and only your second

lifetime star. Unfortunately she got hurt in

the race, missed a lot of time. Chad tried to get her back on

the Oaks trail, Gulfstream Park Oaks.

Watch that trip again. Big early move into the teeth of

the pace, giving up recency to some pretty nice three-year old

Phillies and then understandably tiring anyone that could speak

by Thorpedo Anna, you don't hold that against her, but she's just

a beast right now. That was the Kentucky Oaks.

This is what she wants to do. Maybe she just picks up the

mantle for Chad where Goodnight Olive left off.

Yeah, it could be for sure. I I just I'm trying to figure

out who else is going to be at the very top of that division.

But you want a one O 3 buyer. I got you.

It's Vava and it's her right. It really literally is that so

far this year. It's really fun to get it.

It's always nice when that next horse emerges within a division,

right, especially within this kind of division where we did

lose a horse like goodnight Olive, who was just terrific

every time she showed up. So nice to see her running as

well. Well, the Hirsch happened at Del

Mar. We will be running the Breeders

Cup at Del Mar this year and the Dare Manor looked like, well, a

deer Manor. So here is the stretch run of

that race as she. Frankly, if Mirror Body were

called this race, he would have called it a paid workout.

Here we go. Cool, but Elm drives.

Not going to throw in the towel. Kicks on for home and Elm

drivers tough on the lead. A deer Manor chased after her.

And now desert dawn from last. And here's desert dawn on the

outside, in the blue. Cab coming to make it a

three-way do home would bound an Elm drive hanging on to it, a

deer Manor between them. Desert Dawn on from the outside.

Three of them come for the wire together in a thriller in the

Clement Hirsch. Now a deer man against the

ascendancy and a deer manner will win a deer manner won a

desert. Desert Dawn Underrated fun

horse. She's always right there.

She really does a lot of good running, but has figured out

running second will still get you fed.

What says Danielman? Louis, Every time Desert Dog

goes through the paddock and she sees a deer manner, she's going

to be like if she just didn't exist.

I'm the top trillion mayor, I'm the top one in Southern

California. She shows up, there's a dare

matter. She tries her heart out.

You're right, she's just a really cool horse.

But a dare matter, it's just on another level and I think we're

seeing the maturation of the dare matter.

She's been brilliant throughout her career, but you look at her

peepees going into last weeks race she was a need the lead

type or a horse that always ran her best.

When she's right there at the throat latch of the pacesetter

at the half mile pole here, they gave her a little bit of work to

do and it was a little unfamiliar for her.

I like the way she ground. She was able to grind down the

leader and still hold off the closer.

She's getting good right now and the two big names in the Philly

and mare division back east. Idiomatic, Randomized.

I think there are some question marks now coming in after the

last couple of races for idiomatic.

The champion, Adair Matters got the homecourt advantage manage

from BC time. Maybe she's able to finally turn

the tables on those two. That makes 3 graded wins in a

row for a dare. Manor does that.

Hirsch obviously. Really barely, barely getting by

in that Molly pitcher. You and I were there in Monmouth

that day for idiomatic. She'll run next, it looks like

in the Personal Ensign. Is she just?

The type of horse stand that's never going to win a race by

more than a length. I, I would like to think that's

not the case. I'm watching her last couple of

races. However, boy, I mean, with

randomized at Saratoga, if you want to argue, all right, the

track was sort of playing the horses on the lead.

Randomized got the jump on her idiomatic, tried hard in the

stretch, couldn't get there. And Monmouth, on paper, she's

supposed to win easy. And on the backstretch with the

trip she got, she's supposed to win easy.

And then you're terrified at the 516th bowl when the horse comes

to the outside of her and then she's all out to win.

And I'm wondering, I don't know if she's playing with these

horses. I don't know if maybe she's just

bored out there. I don't know if she's just not

the same or she was last year. But there are questions.

And the personal instance is going to be a big, big test for

her with her test sort of tactical speed and her ability.

You know, she's going to give a good account how short a price

you want on her in that race. And if you're playing futures or

the Breeders stuff, this stuff, I'm not sure how low I'd go with

her either. But yeah, I think that

randomized is the horse with the upside, a dare manner.

Those got the homecourt edge and is also just razor sharp right

now. You hate to say a horse with

this with idiomatix abilities and accomplishments with a

question mark resume, but wow, there is a question.

Yeah, no, I'm totally with you on that.

There was some Twitter kerfuffle, if you will, young

Dan Ellman about Floral Giroux's ride in that race.

Are you critical of his ride in that race?

I'm not really critical of his ride in that race.

I mean, he gave her I, I understand what people are

saying. You're supposed to open up after

you maybe you drop the fractions down and make her chase.

I think when you're one to five or whatever she was in there.

I think actually Flo tried to get away and that was just

stayed with her. So either that was very improved

or idiomatic is not the same idiomatic.

I'm not going to really criticize Flo.

Plus he wins the race. I'm not going to critique.

Silla overtaken in the in the Hirsch by a dare matter.

How good is Siller? Is she?

Is she more of a second tier type of A2 turn horse at this

point? I think that race proved that

she was a second tier type of horse, and it's kind of

disappointing because I wanted her to be a lot better.

I think Bill sent her out to Southern California to avoid

idiomatic and randomized figuring, OK, there's only one

big dog out there and that's a dare matter.

And the way she ran that was terrible.

So it's almost starting completely over with her.

I like the things she did at Churchill Downs.

She's she's a professional, solid race source who just has

to get faster. Yeah, we'll see what her next

stop is. But the daughter of Tappan

obviously in that Bill Mott barn has the the lowest of all of the

buyers of anyone in that division.

That's one at a high level with a 93.

I think her races always seem faster than that.

I don't know all at all, totally goes into her buyers, but I

think she's at least in that group.

Should be a fun time leading up frankly.

Second season here in 2024 leading into the Breeders Cup.

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And again, you know, I would have hoped he would have figured

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Maybe he's not the only one. Maybe there are a lot of folks

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So there you go. All right, let's get into some

handicapping this weekend. Dan, I, I, I'm going to ask you

because this is an unusual happening, but because of the

storms, Saratoga not running tomorrow, they are moving two of

the turf races to Sunday. The big ones, frankly, that

we've already moved once and so we're going to do that again.

Are they going to be part of any sequence or are there rules in

New York where they have to be standalone races now?

I. Think they're going to be

standalone races because of the rules and I think it's going to

mess everything up on Saturday because they were part of, you

know, some major late wagers. So it's going to hurt the better

a little bit. It's going to hurt the handle.

It's obviously good for the horsemen and it's obviously good

for down the road because these horses are not going to have to

reroute or run off the turf or run on a boggy, just

ridiculously soft turf course on Saturday.

And it helps their preparation down the road leading up to the

Breeders Cup. But yeah, it's going to hurt a

multiple race wager standpoint both days because Saturday I

don't even know how they're going to handle the multis

there, and Sunday, these are standalones.

Yeah, no. So an interesting thing.

I guess it's good that we can bet on them and we're not just

running for purse money on Sunday.

I don't know, I wouldn't be watching them.

I wanna see AI wanna see a cross day, Pick six, come on.

Well, you can't do that at Saratoga anymore because

they're, they're having to move these races so much.

The two day wagers are already kind of a little risky to begin

with, and now we're finding out that maybe not the best way

going for Dan Ullman with us DRF here on horse racing Happy hour.

We get into our handicapping now a couple of really interesting

cards you're gonna have to figure out folks.

I apologize in advance when these races are actually being

run, but we'll start at Saratoga.

We talked about the Saratoga Derby Invitational last week.

I had to go through because they redrew this race and so the the

horses are in a different starting spot in the gate.

This will be race My goodness, Race 6 on the card.

Dan, where did you land in this one?

I thought this was, if not the best field, top 2 field of

three-year old turf horses that you've seen.

Well, certainly is. I don't know, I like

Deterministic in this race. I'm really interested in your

thoughts again this course. This horse is going to be a

little bit wet and I think the source is really going to

appreciate it. I thought the turf debut was

pretty good at the Manila last time out.

He was really moving at the end of that race.

That pace was not very fast, but he was able to really kick on

late. I think a lot of folks are going

to be worried about distance with him.

I think he's OK at the distance. I was talking to my buddy Mike

Bureau. He likes this horse as well.

On top on Saturday. Trickery is very, very

dangerous. I'm not sure if he's running

here or at Colonial right now. If he runs there, he's a logical

horse. Legend of Time, though, what can

you say? The horse is very, very

consistent. I like deterministic SO running

style for this race and I think the distance will be within his

scope. I'm interested in Fomeneo here

just because of what you've mentioned, because of the softer

ground. This horse has gone

back-to-back, softer ground races at Pimlico and at Colonial

that you just mentioned. Will will that horse be able to

get a similar kind of trip now? Both of those at a mile, we're

going significantly farther than that.

Last time this horse went a mile in an eighth, though, it was

part of the final equation at Laurel Park there and maybe just

didn't have enough time to pick up the pieces in that race.

Could the horse jump up here? This is a big step up in class

for full Mineo for sure, but has showed it over soft go before.

Interested because I think we'll get every bit of 12:50 on that

horse in. This Oh no, you're going to get

a price point on the source because he is stepping up in

class and distance as you mentioned and his buyers are

like but the point you make cannot be overstated.

Wet turf course, The source is a different horse and blinkers on

the light bulb has seemingly gone on with this horse.

I really respect Arno de Liqueur and the work he does and I think

the extra distance will be OK for him.

He's run better at he's run OK at slightly longer distances.

It's not as much of a question as it is with Deterministic,

whose big races have come seven to a mile.

I'm also interested in Royal Majesty in here, the three horse

Junior Alvarado getting them out there for Belmont.

Ranwell, I thought in the Belmont Derby, last out at

Aqueduct in the earlier part of July, gets that month off.

I think technically it falls into 31 to 60 days off category

on the form, but I think that horse, especially at a price as

well, has been right there twice.

Could this be the race where that horse gets over the top?

We're looking at 12:50. Eight to one on those kinds of

horses I think make for a really interesting spot in the Saratoga

Derby Invitational. That'll be Race 6.

Let's. Get to the special Louis.

I want to talk about one of the horse real quick and that's

First World War for Frankie Victoria and Brendan Walsh.

I want to use the source along with deterministic.

I just thought maybe he moved a little bit too soon last time

out and then flattened out at Churchill Downs.

I know his big win came at Penn National two starts back, but

this is a horse that didn't exactly have the cleanest trip

in that race. He has kind of sneaky tactical

speed. The wet turf course is a big

question. It'll be interesting to see him

for sure on Saturday. Saratoga Special as well.

A reminder, Dan has a book about how to bet maidens and how to

bet 2 year olds out there in the world.

So go find that. I looked on Amazon, several

sales since you were on last month.

You're welcome. No, no, I really appreciate it.

Why do you think I mentioned it? I mean, it's about, it's about

time I, you know, you, you, you see it on Amazon.

It's not like I check. I'm not the kind of guy who's

big into publicity, self or self aggrandizement or anything like

that. No, but it was nice to see

someone told. A check comes in the mail.

You you notice it, it's a thing, right?

Or does that go to your agent? I can't remember.

Anyways, the Saratoga Specials on Saturday, it's race say

$200,000 here. Grade 2 Dan, we have seen so far

at Saratoga this year, some absolute bombers come from

wherever in these kinds of races.

Do you allow that to affect your handicapping in these races

where it's just like, hey, maybe we're doing the crazy 2 year old

thing at Saratoga this year or is that, hey, that was that race

we're talking about this one. That was that race.

It's a clean slate and I'm just going to handicap the Saratoga

Special the way I would handicap any other ways.

And let's just be honest. You think 2 year olds, you think

Wesley Ward and he's got touchy in here and the fact that this

horse took so much money for his debut in that stakes race during

the Belmont Stakes Festival, somebody like this horse, he's a

giant. If you watch the replay of that

race, he turns into the stretch. Steve Asmussen's little 2 year

old tries to sneak through inside and Touchy's very green.

He showed speed. He kind of drifted a little bit

turning for home. Rosario tries to get him inside

to look. That little guy in the aisle was

ate on this giant and then he gets rundown by Studley Do

right? I think it was a really good

learning experience for this horse.

I think he's still growing and still figuring this out and I

don't think he's a need to lead type.

So we're going to find out if Touchy is the real deal or if

maybe he's a morning glory. I'm interested the outside horse

here is keep it easy. I watch this horse break its

maiden at Churchill Downs for Dale Romans.

And Dale, I got to be honest, used to be the two year old King

Dan, and that's a man who's made a lot of changes in his life.

I think he's back to training better.

His numbers have gotten back to a significantly better

percentage. I'm interested in that horse on

the outside, just because this is the third start and I wonder

if the light went on last time for this horse at Churchill

Downs. Do you look for that sort of

thing with two year olds? I like to see improved speed.

That's an old Andy Beyer angle if you go back to some of his

old books. Improved speed in the second

lifetime start of the second start of the form cycle.

I agree with you. I think the light bulb went on

second time out. This source has such a nice

pedigree and he sold for so much money.

They probably shouldn't have given up on him after only one

start. He was a giant price last time

out. Now with this outside post

position, I think they're going to let the speeds go.

Actually gives the rider some options.

I'm really not too worried about the outside post and this is

something Dale Romans excels at. Maiden winners last time out in

two year olds. He knows how to place them.

If this horse wasn't ready for a graded stake, he wouldn't be

running at Saratoga. I think he's the goods.

I think the price will be there. I'm definitely using him.

Yeah, if he thought that, I mean he could just run the horse and

the juvenile at Ellis Park for 25,000 less dollars, right.

I mean he really could just go do that and and make a make the

case for him there. I agree with you on that part as

well. Should be a fun one.

That's a that's always a good race every year.

The next one we are told is the Troy.

We will talk about the Troy now. Technically it'll be run.

This is one of the races that got moved.

Yes, Dan. No, I think is the Troy staying,

I think the Troy's staying on Saturday at Saratoga, which

makes me wonder gonna get washed off or it's cancelled, right?

Or, I don't know, washed off? I mean, it's a grade two and I

understand wanting to protect the grades.

I really do. I, I, I want to be very fair to

the naira people here because I do understand trying to protect

the grade on this. But let's talk about it at all

of the different angles, Dan here.

Let's talk about it as though this $300,000 grade 2/5 and 1/2

furlongs on the bougie melon turf course.

Let's talk about it as though it's being run on the turf, Dan.

Obviously going to be soft no matter what.

Do you have a favorite here? Is it?

I mean, is this the simplest race on the card?

Can Cochran just do this thing? If he certainly runs his race

last time, they're all running per second and he was super

obviously, what did he break the North American record last time,

outgoing 5 1/2? That was just an unbelievable

performance. Now, maybe a wet turf course

will be a completely different story for this guy because he

likes to hear his feet rattle. He likes to be close to the

pace, but just the form he's in right now, it's so hard to go

against him and there are some good horses in here.

I respect Groom's all business. I respect Outlaw Kid.

These are nice sources, but they can't touch the source.

If he runs his last race right, that's.

Right. Yeah, No, I agree with that.

If we're talking about filling out an exact or a trifecta, Dan,

I really like Witty. Who is?

Yeah. Perfect, by the way, six or six,

finishing first or second at this distance, lifetime three

and three wins in places and six starts gets that inside post.

But I, I, I think a horse with this kind of experience having

run 23 lifetime time 23 times in his life, excuse me, eight wins,

9 seconds, just going to be part of the equation at the end.

Never run at Saratoga. Interestingly enough, even

though the horse has been all up and down the East Coast, frankly

from Laurel to Toronto, and has never made the stop at Saratoga

for this one, if we're washed off the turf, is there a horse

you're especially looking at? Well, I think you have to

respect Witty if he runs here. I know he's also across center

at Colonial because he's good dirt, he's good turf.

Lizzie Merriman's done a very nice job with Witty.

I think she, he, the source, was just recently sold to Qatar

Racing. He's just a nice horse.

Sometimes with Witty, you have to worry about the break with

him. Sometimes he's such a big horse

and sometimes sort of his back legs just sort of break out.

The ground breaks out from under him and he breaks a length or

two slow. But there should be some pace in

this race, whether it's turf or dirt, and he'll kick on in the

stretch. I have a lot of respect for

Witty as a racehorse and the respect for the job they've done

with him. Is disarmed on the outside for

Rudy Rodriguez, a potential upset in this race?

I like him underneath more than as a potential upsetter.

I'm I'm just not sure if I really want to have too much

money in against Cogburn. And again, of course, the wet

turf course is it would be a big, big question mark for him.

But I I just don't really have want to have too much money in

against him. I don't want to gamble against

him, but maybe I could use that horse underneath.

Certainly. Yeah, it makes sense to me.

All right. The four-star Dave, this will be

on Sunday, folks. It's a mile on the older horse

there. Just a race that Dan, I think it

it's, it's there aren't a lot of races like this, but I feel like

we get a great performance every year in the four-star Dave.

Don't you get the top milers in the country?

It seems surf milers in the country every time in the

four-star Dave. I'm curious as to your opinion.

Ottoman fleet. Every time he runs, he shows up

anyone's big numbers. He's run, what, five times in

this country? And he's got buyers of 99 or

better in every single one of those races.

Why am I not as big a fan of Ottoman fleet as I should be?

Because I should like horses that win.

And he's got great tactical speed.

He's got everything I like. Why am I not a fan of Ottoman

Fleet? Why am I not using him in the

four-star Dave? If you're on more than Looks, we

have a problem here, Dan, and we can't do the show together

anymore. Close.

I'm going to use more than one. He's my second pick in the race.

My buddy up here like someone I'm a huge fan of the source.

I have to admit that the combination of the layoff, the

fact that he was entered in the lure the other day and he got,

you know, washed off there, so now they're running here.

It makes me wonder a little bit about a fitness standpoint.

He's good enough on his best day to win this race.

I would use him. I think Carl Spackler is going

to run a big race. I really think he's the kind of

horse that always hinted at ability and I think he's been a

little bit dirtied up. Even off his win last time

because it was a short field, he only won by 1/2 length.

Go back and watch that race. Tyler never got to the bottom of

him. It was a strong hand ride.

You could place that horse anywhere.

So I'm going to use him over more than looks.

Those are Mike too. Something tells me you like more

than looks. If you get 4 to one on him,

that's fair. I think it's really fair that

combination too. It's just something about

especially 2024, about how Cherie Devoe is placing her

horses in stakes races that I think is really exceptional this

year. her and I read 5 for 10 their last 10 times together

with mounts as well. I I love that kind of angle.

I think it does matter. I'm with you though.

I I seeing this horseback here instead of in a softer spot is,

is a bit of a question, but I think he's got all the ability

and I'm going to get a price there.

I I totally disagree with you. I think if Ottoman fleet runs

that race that he ran last out in the wise dad, I think he does

win this race. I think that's just what it is.

Gets out front, stays out front. Flavian Pratt rates he's been as

good on that turf. Who who's been?

I mean outside of Irad. I mean, we're talking kind of

historically good this year for Flavian on the turf at at at

Saratoga, are we not? No, he's he's he's a great

jockey and there's no doubt about it.

No, I would say it's historically good.

He's exceptional and he knows how to ride horses with varying

styles. And this horse can be placed

anywhere Flavian wants. But in other words, once lead

also the rails got speed. If Mark Cassie's going to send

that horse, this horse can sit second on him and Fleet sit 3rd.

I'm really not worried about position.

I'm I'm just a little bit concerned that maybe maybe he's

not as good as he appears on paper.

And again, he's done nothing wrong.

I really shouldn't be even knocking him.

I guess I am a little bit. I'm just not as big of a fan as

Ottoman fleet as I should be. I watch his races and I'm like,

he's good and who can I find to beat him?

Getting into the Colonial races now as we head to Virginia, why

are there only six horses in the Beverly D and only six horses in

the Arlington Million? That's a good question and I

hope it's not because people are looking their nose down at the

Arlington Million and the Beverly D because they're not at

Arlington Park anymore. But I don't think that's the

reason. I think it's because of the

looming big purses at Kentucky Downs and everybody wants to be

fresh to run for $2,000,000. And unfortunately I think we've

been seeing races at Saratoga come up with some short fields

and stakes races and even the day-to-day racing.

Maybe folks are saying I can stay at Ellis Park and run for

giant purse money and allowance and maiden races and set things

up for Kentucky Downs Downs as well.

It's great for the horsemen, the Kentucky Downs races, but I

think it may hurt the races in the weeks and a month or two

leading up to that meet. Do you think there could be

incentive then for a place like Colonial to change the the

overall dating of this race? Maybe move it up a week or two.

I think it's probably a good idea.

The question is, you know, where does it fall with some of the

other turf races? I mean, with Saratoga running,

it's always difficult, right? I think the Arlington Million

should have a spot on the calendar.

And not only should it have its spot, it should have a revered

spot on the calendar where you get a big field because the race

has such a rich history. Outside of your your beloved New

York tracks, and of course your Mid-Atlantic tracks that you

love so much, where was Arlington on your on your list?

I liked Arlington a lot. I've only went there a few

times. It was such a beautiful race

track. Now I have to admit, I'm a big

Poly track fan. When they moved over there I

kind of sort of gravitated away from handicapping and betting on

Arlington. After that I liked handicapping

the turf races. Obviously on Million Day you

always got a great show there, races like the Pucker Up and the

Secretary, Just fantastic races. It was just a beautiful race

track. It was a fan friendly track.

You know it. Again, it's just a shame.

Now we're at Colonial Downs, a beautiful track in its own right

now really fan friendly track. I'm I'm a big fan of going to

Colonial Downs and again, I hope for good things for the million

down the road. Yeah.

All right, so we'll get into those races now.

A cool all turf in all stakes. Pick three here, starts in race

9. three-year olds trying for 1/2 a million bucks in the Grade

2 Secretariat on the inner turf course here.

Obviously gonna be softer. They move these races to

Saturday, according to your colleague Marcus Hirsch, Maybe a

little less rain today than they thought they were going to get.

So that turf should set up OK on Sunday.

Where did you land in this one? Easily the most competitive, I

think of the three races on the turf in the greatest stakes on

Colonel. You go first.

I got to find my feet. These I'm I'm all over.

I'm all over your place. Here I'm all over here you're. 5

million races, 20 million tracks.

Wait a minute. Hold on, All right, race #9

Brilliant Murphy down on the rail.

You talked about Cherie Devoe and Cherie Devoe putting horses

in the right spot and maybe, you know, just don't have to put

Brilliant Birdie in the right spot because his last three

races speak for themselves. The horse has shown a strong

kick in all of them. Last race, really nice

performance in the American Derby.

Beat First World War is a pretty good horse as well.

We talked about him a little bit.

I just think this horse is getting better and better.

I think the miles good. Love the inside post for him.

I think this is a spot for Brilliant Birdie to maybe stamp

himself as an interesting horse for this year and maybe even

into next when the goings get tougher against older.

What do we think of that horse now that Brian Hernandez Junior

has announced he'll be at Ellis on Sunday?

Not really worried too much about the jockey actual concept.

You don't handle the source really well.

Two starts back, I would love, I would use Mike Beer's old axiom.

It's not jockey racing, it's horse racing.

And very rarely do I let a jockey affect my decision

because you got a jockey that might be struggling or a jockey

that might be lower profile. All that happens for me is you

get a better price. Is this race long enough for

trickery? I think it is long enough for

trickery. I thought his race in the pen

mile was deceptively good. Two starts back, it was sort of

a loudly post position. He was hung out wide.

He was part of the pace. I think between a mile and a

mile and a 16th is actually very good for him.

I know the grand motion doesn't want to stretch him out down the

road, but with his tactical speed, you're going to know him

turning into the stretch. He's a good horse.

He probably is underrated even with all the accomplishments in

his career with that big win at Churchill Downs at a giant

price. Bear River is entered here.

The three horse has largely done all of his work sprinting, but

this is the kind of horse stand that I assume they'll just send

to the front under James Graham and just try to try to see if

he's there at the wire. Can he do it?

Because I think we're going to get longer than six to one on

this horse. I think we'll get 8-9, ten to

one on this horse. I usually don't love horses

stretching out. You know me like the cut back

angle more than the stretch at angle.

Especially in races like this where he's stepping up in class.

But if ever of course, deserved an opportunity in a major races,

this source because just look at the form he's in raging right

now. He's one of his last three.

I like James Graham with horses on the lead.

He's known as a patient rider, sort of like a Julian leper root

type. But they're exceptional when you

get to the front because they're able to control the fractions

and still save something from the end.

Bear River, I think, is going to get to the front.

The problem is what happens when a quality route horse like

Trickery turns up the heat at about the 3/8 mile pole.

We'll find out what kind of horse Bear River is then.

Interesting horse in here as well, at least in my opinion.

Had been running on dirt largely starting in March, but went back

to the to the firm go at Gulfstream.

Last night was general Ledger for Safi Joseph.

He's well. That guy has horses everywhere

this weekend. I'm trying to keep up with him.

Jose Ortiz gets them out here. This horse one under Edwin

Gonzalez over a mile and a 16th at Gulfstream.

Last time you give this horse much of a shot here coming out

of Allowance Company. I give him sort of an underneath

chance. I'm not sure I really love him

because I mean, they were willing to lose him for 75 last

time out. Maybe they got away with

stealing. Moving back to the grass, he's

good on dirt, he's good on turf. He's got tactical speed.

His figs are OK. I think the trip sort of worked

out for him last time out and I really question who he beat.

But it's worth noting they put the blinkers on and he got that

confidence boosting win. I want him to do it again to

prove it to me, even though the price should be right.

All right, we move on to the Beverly D This is a win and in

for the Breeders Cup here, so we will be paying attention in this

case. I like a long shot in this race

here, Dan. 6 entries in this one mile and three sixteenths on.

That don't think the same long shot I'm on don't do it, don't

do it. Don't you say mission to joy?

OK, good. I'm on Niecy Marie here, so

that's great. OK, good.

I've drawn a line through the Diana I'm gonna try to get back

to that New York for. But of course, the Bogay, which

she run earlier, she won earlier this year, I should say.

Excuse me. I thought over a mile and three

sixteenths though, at Saratoga in that New York.

She looked really, really good. I think at the Diana, man, she

got stuck 5 wide. Just wasn't her race.

I love that 12:50 price. I get Frankie to Tori on the

grass, all of those things. I'm gonna try a long shot here,

Dan. And I respect Niecy Marie, it's

for her. A lot of it comes down to pace.

Is she going to get a setup because she just doesn't have a

lot of early speed. She is really over performed

for. Butch Reed is one of the more

underrated trainers in the game. Usually Butch Reed sources show

up and at prices in major stakes races.

We saw that from Niecy Marie in the New York two starts back

where she ran a super race. She just happened to catch the

DIA who's one of the best Phillies and mares in the

country. I do respect her mission to

Joyce. To me, my kind of whacky long

shot. I know Moira is sort of the name

worst coming out of the Diana. She ran really well to be

second. I don't think mission of joy the

most comfortable trip in that race, though, in and among in

between horses, first turn all the way through the backstretch

into the second turn got out came with a little bit of a run.

I've always had a little bit of a thing for this horse.

She's another one that doesn't have a lot of speed.

But I thought her race two starts back in the just a game,

a race where she got wired, a race where she was out kicked,

pardon me, by chili flag and the stretch.

I think that's a race that shows that she can step with these

horses. Now, is she only a miler?

That's a bit of a question as well.

I trust Graham with this horse. Yeah, it's interesting.

We've got Moira in here. She'll be on 9:00 to 5:00 in the

morning line for Kevin Attard. Obviously, she's coming out of

only grade ones and grade twos her last six rounds.

Feb Rover in here, of course, at 2:00 to 1:00 as well.

Does this just feel because of six horses here, I did want to

ask you to last out. Oh, gosh, Who was it?

Nadette, right? Nadette wins the the preview

only five horses in that race. She didn't do a she didn't have

to do anything to win that race. Dan, do do you include that in

your handicapping that she was just so much better than those

horses on that day or was that more of just a a longer workout

than usual? I I think you have to take in

mind the competition that she's facing and again, the debt found

the right spot and I think that's the way handicappers like

to use it. She's one to two for a reason.

It was a class drop. She won super impressively.

You can't knock that. It's always nice to have a win

over the course. The waters just get a lot deeper

in here, don't they? There's so much better

competition. I kind of known Nadette.

It's not like she's just some unproven canal commodity that's

come out of nowhere. Windsor State Trades is

continuing to jump up in class. Who knows, I think I know what

and the dead is, I'm just not sure.

She's got to be three or four good ones in here.

She only had one to beat. Maybe I'd take a flyer at a

price. You mentioned Fev Rover, she's

the defending champion in this race.

I wonder if this is the race they've been pointing to since

the winner. They've circled this one.

They've gotten 2 races back into her.

Maybe she's cycling back to her best in the third start of the

form cycle. 2 to one just seems a little bit light in the field

of this quality though. Yeah, And this does feel like

the race, though, where we go. Oh yeah, right.

Big day. Javier Castellano, Right?

It just it just. Oh, there he is.

OK, yeah, right. Javier Castellano, there it is.

So I think that one actually sets up to be very, very fun and

and not an easy race to try to handicap even though they're

only six. But we do move out of the star

of the day. Mile and 1/4 are like 2 million,

obviously 1,000,000 bucks here, 3 and up on the turf course

there as well. I think, Dan, even though six

horses, I think, what, four to five of these you could make a

serious case for. Who did you land on in the

Arlington Millions? I'm going to go with the

European X Factor, ancient Rome and I think he's going to be a

decent price in this race. And what I've liked from

watching his race is over there is his versatility.

We saw good news in a mile when he came over here for Kentucky

down, so the ship shouldn't be an issue.

He's proven he can handle that in the past, but he's also run

well at a mile and 1/4 and he's not only versatile from a

distance standpoint, he seems to be versatile from a running

style standpoint. A lot of times these European

horses that come from a million lengths Ave. he was able to stay

close, just a solid pace in Kentucky Downs when he was here

going a mile. So I wonder if he's just going

to kind of work out a trip sitting second or third under

Jamie Spencer. His last race was very hard for

me to analyze. The winner of that race is on

his way to Group Stakes. He's something like undefeated

from four starts. Very excited about him.

Everything behind Ancient Rome not very good.

He sat last, he came outside. It was a good kick.

Same issues I have with Feb Rover.

You know, maybe this is the spot.

Third off the layoff. I wonder if they're trying to

prep him actually in the million for that race at Kentucky Downs.

Again, get him over here and get a race and maybe that's the

goal. Again, the purse is so giant.

Sacrilege, I know. It's amazing to say we're using

a million dollar race as a prep, but that's what Kentucky Downs

said. They have two million,

$2,000,000 races on one day. Dan.

I mean, I can't hate on anyone trying to win one of those

races. I'm not mad at anybody.

I'm not mad at anybody trying to win two of those races, even

with one as a breath. Ancient Rome is not.

Let's not, let's be honest, He's not a top tier horse over there.

But how many times have we seen it in the past?

You don't have to be a top tier horse from Europe to come here

and beat our B + A minus players.

And these are good horses in here, Yeah.

No, there are good horses in here, including Nation's Pride.

You mentioned Bill Buick gets them out here.

Does, does, And I hate to do this, but is the move from

Frankie to Tori to Bill Buick that's a step up?

Yes, at this point. I don't know if it's a step up

or not. Again, you're talking to the

wrong guy who talked about jockey moves and angles.

I don't pay. You pay attention to who's

riding these horses 90% of the time and they're all to me.

They're all great. I mean, you find one or two that

on every circuit that are incompetent and he just wouldn't

play $2.00 on them if they had secretary to the riding

secretary. But for me, William Buick, All

Star jockey, Frankie Dattori, living Legend, All Star jockey,

even at his age, to me it just comes down to what I think a

nation's pride at the price is going to be.

He's gonna be the favorite in this race.

He's obviously credentialed on a wet track.

He's winning the Canadian International.

He's got a terrible field. Last year he's 2:00 to 5:00, but

it was over Boggy going so he likes that he's a he's a proven

come on. I so love his two races this

year. I know that he's faced Silver

Mott to knock 2 back. That was probably the best sort

of marathoner on turf right now. 12/13/11 furlongs.

His last race in the Manhattan. The fig looks great.

Everything looks great on the paper except when you watch the

race. He never was winning.

Maybe measured times just better than these sources.

To me it was a suck up second. I don't want eight to five on

him. He can easily win.

Just don't like him at the price.

I'd much rather have integration as the second choice than

nation's prize the favorite. Yeah, integration's an

interesting one. Kendra Carmouche making the trip

for this race as well. Sorry, that's a jockey.

I shouldn't mention that. By the way, you're totally

right. I, I, I talk about jockeys, but

then I singled Fernando De la Cruz on on on on Haskell Day, So

what the hell do I know, right? Get prices on jockeys that may

not be under the radar. I mean, maybe it's not a great

example, but was seized the Gray one or two points more than he

should have been in the Preakness because, you know,

because of the jock. Yeah, because I made sure.

Yeah. Right.

Yeah, yeah. And the kids, and the kids

really good, just no one knows them.

No, that's exactly right. Talk of the Nation is in this

race never gone this distance for Todd Pletcher.

Jose Ortiz picks up them out here.

I just a horse that's always near the front.

And then part of the equation has been first or second or

third, I should say, within a length in every race since

February of 2023. D Give Talk of the Nation a

chance here. I do simply because of his

speed. He's coming out of that Carl

Spackler race, and it was a race where he got a brilliant ride

from Irad. The pace was not fast.

He slowed it down. It turned into a 516th of a mile

Sprint. And Carl Spackler, we always had

talk of the nation, but Talk of the Nation was well clear.

The 3rd place finisher. We've seen this before in turf

routes all across the country for many, many years.

Not just the New York phenomena. As my friend Mike Beer would

like to say, speed kills even longer distance races.

I would have liked to have seen in his PPS that they actually

tried to stretch the source out. You got Chug, you got Fletcher.

They know the money's in longer distance races and they didn't

really want to stretch him out past a mile, mile on a 16th.

But if he gets to the lead and backs down the fractions, I

could see him being tough to reel in.

I like him more as sort of a second or a third horse in my

tries. Again, I'm going to be keying on

the one and the two. In the the Daily Racing Form,

whatever that is in their division rankings, Masters,

Master of the Seas, measured time on top, Johannes third,

silver, not 4th. And I know I'm getting away from

the handicapping. I was very impressed with

Johannes last out at Del Mar. I think he's, he's a really

interesting one just 'cause he is a Southern California

distance, but speed as well as you mentioned, speed does kill

in his case for sure. And then silver Knot, man, that

horse just freaking shows up every time.

He he's just an honest horse. Right Between those two, where

would you lean right now in your rankings?

Well, it's so tough because I think Johannes is more of a

Miller Mile and a 16th type mile and an eighth maybe at the most.

I'm not sure if they really want.

He's not a breeder of turf, more of a breeder of a mile type.

Well, Silver Knot is a true stayer.

He's a horse that's going to go a mile and a half.

He's going to stay all day long. I guess I would lean, I really

wouldn't lean towards any of them.

If you're saying pick the Breeders Cup winner, I don't

know if either one of them is gonna win the Breeders Cup.

I think Johannes is more interesting to me because I

think he has more upside, more explosiveness, and he has the

homecourt edge. I just don't love the

competition he's been beating over there.

But I won't knock his his record.

He's a very exciting prospect for Silver Knot.

He's good. But what happens when the Bears

come over from Europe that we're eating his lunch when he was

over there? Yeah.

It's a legitimate question for sure.

Do you have a favorite long shot this week?

Have you mentioned them already? I think I probably mentioned him

already, probably Mission of Joy in the in the Beverly DI know

she's going to be a big price and maybe on paper she doesn't

look like a likely winner. I think she's had sneaky trips

in some of her races though, and with Moira, she's the horse to

beat. I'm not going to be willing to

say Moira 6 lengths better. The mission of Joy as she was in

the Diane. I just think the trips made a

lot of difference in that race, as it often will in turf racing.

So I want to use her a little bit in the Beverly D.

How about you? What do you get?

You were wrong shopping, by the way.

You're too humble. You.

You were killing it on Haskell Day.

I will admit that. You were the king, the king of

the Jersey Shore. Wow, look.

At this, yeah, look at this, look at.

This complex and I just look like A and you handled it.

You handled it like a pro. Also, you weren't some goofball.

Look at me party time. No, no, she was standing there

like you expected to win like a winner.

I appreciate that, Dan, although no one else got to see that.

So I appreciate you saying. That.

Yeah. There you go.

Yeah, yeah. You know why no one else saw

that? Because I did exactly what Dan

said. Kept it nice and easy.

There you go, get smoking for the win coming in from our guy.

Sean sure after the races either.

Do you know what I did? I went and got a grandma pie

after that. Do you like that?

Good for you. Good.

Good for you. Yeah, Yeah, pretty.

Good. All I did was, by the way, I

just looked up pizzerias in the neighborhood and I picked the

one with the least number of tables.

That's what I went for. Just a small place.

Just, you know, that that was my joint.

It was good. Next time we'll text Miramati

because he's the king. He knows where all the pigs are,

the king of pizza. He'll he'll know every sneaky

under the radar joint with Five Star Pies.

Well, there you go. Well, he's Dan Elman at DRF.

under score Dan Elman on Twitter.

Go find his stuff on the YouTube page.

Tell everybody. YouTube page, Daily Racing

Forum. Check it out please.

We've got great videos. A lot of different handicapping

opinions, Myself, my beer, David Aragona, Ashley Mayu, Gino,

Bicola, just a lot of handicapping, especially with

the two year old races coming up.

Nicole Russo's the breeding expert.

She talks about the two year old maiden races and stakes with me

on Spa Baby, so check it out. There you go.

We will have Caitlin free tomorrow.

She's on the on the paddock call, the paddock reporting for

Colonial Downs this year. So she will join us on Rabo and

Co 11:20 tomorrow on ESPN 680 here in town and then 2:00

tomorrow doing a special show for that late pick six all

stakes. We call them stakes at at at

Ellis Park and we'll get into that tomorrow as well.

Dan, really appreciate it, man. Have a great weekend.

Enjoy a quiet day tomorrow. No Laurel and no, no Saratoga.

What are you going to be doing tomorrow?

No Laurel, no Saratoga. I'll be looking for plays at Del

Mar Friday evening and I might have one in the stakes race.

You'll have to go to the Daily Racing Form YouTube channel to

find out. That's called a tease, people.

That's professionalism, you understand me?

That is a tease from 1 Danielman from the DRI.

Dan, we appreciate you man. We'll talk to you soon.

There you go. Dan Elman.

You cut off my man Dan Elman. How we doing that?

Our guy Sean Collins is in the chat.

You're cutting off Dan. There he is.

There's Daniel. What are we doing?

Cutting Dan off now? Cut him off.

That's better. Just cut him off right now.

Get him out of here. We don't want to see Dan

anymore. There you go.

He's writing books and being famous on Amazon.com and all

those things. There you go.

Do you think his book was involved in Prime Day, 'cause I

don't. How about that?

Well, that'll wrap up this edition of the Horse Racing

Happy Hour. Stay stay in touch with our

podcast feed. You'll get that Kentucky Racing

Spotlight show tomorrow as well. Talk to trainer Brett Calhoun

ahead of those races on Saturday.

He's got three in the stakes this weekend at Ellis Park as

well. We'll try to hit that pick six

tomorrow. Hanging out with our guy Bike

ready tomorrow at 2:00. We'll walk through those stakes.

Try to get you some winners there as well for producer Zach

and of course, our guy Dan Elman.

I'm Louis Rebelli at Radio Louie on Twitter.

It is time to get out of here, Zach.

Play some music. I need to go put kids to bed

because I'm a little fired.