Ellis Park Derby Day 2024

And I'm kidding, no countdown for anybody.

Let's go. Horse racing.

Happy hour, 2:00 Friday edition. We're talking Ellis Park people

back-to-back Fridays back for another edition of this.

Sean Collins from Blood Horse. We welcome him back in.

And of course, our guy Mike Rennie getting up early for us

before noon, if you will, out of the West Coast to do this.

Yes, Appreciate that very much. Oh man, guys, no, not a lot of

good racing around the country today, so let's talk about some

racing instead. Ellis Park 6 stakes on the card.

Last weekend we did Kentucky Downs preview all turf.

This weekend we'll do all dirt, all 7 furlong or 8 furlong races

this weekend. Kind of a funky if you're used

to the one mile shoot at Saratoga.

You'll see something very similar at Ellis Park this

weekend. A bunch of fun races.

The return of Saudi Crown this weekend as well.

Couple of two year old races right in the middle of that car

to maybe give us some pretty steep prices, but happy to

invite these guys in. Let's talk about that card in

particular. Do you with with the the

emergence of the Kentucky purses and you know, running for 175 of

these kinds of things at Ellis Park?

Do we have we come to enjoy Mike the the Ellis Park thing?

Are you an Ellis Park Monday guy for example?

Oh yeah, give it to me all day every day.

I'm cuz I play all the time, you know?

So Monday and I, you know, no offense to parks, but it's just

I try to stay away from parks. I, my bankroll does better if I

stay away from parks or give me Ellis Park some big money people

you can kind of know a little bit more about kind of know what

they might be up to. So I'm all about the Ellis

Mondays. Great, great addition.

I'm surprised more tracks don't do stuff like that, not compete

against each other almost. You know, horse racing has a

thing where they think running on top of each other is more

beneficial. I've always asked for stats of

that running three races at the same time.

Is there actual stats that that increases your guys's, you know,

handle as we know, like Sunday night, like last night was dead

for, you know, like nothing racing around West Coast wise.

So I'm shocked more if you if you have lights and you're mid

track, I would run later and not compete.

So I love it. Great.

I always thought that was those two things under the lights and

Monday racing would have been huge for a place like Golden

Gate Fields before they close. Like just give them a chance to

be different out there. Frankly, they could have even

run it where instead of lining up those golden hour bets with

Santa Anita as the last races on the card, it could have been the

opening races on those cards. You know, get a little creative

that way where you know, the first two races out of eight or

nine or whatever at Golden Gate Fields line up with the last

couple of races at Santa Anita. I'm with you, man.

It'd be nice to hit some of those things.

Sean, you were at the Haskell with me.

That was your your 10th Haskell. Is that what you said?

10th Haskell, yeah. Man, 10 Haskell's got that

little little horse racing happy hour blood horse crossover

there, did you? Finally just got back to

Kentucky this week too so. I was going to say because you,

you stopped at Saratoga, did some stuff.

What should people be looking for on your YouTube channel and

all that? Right now on YouTube we're going

through all the Saratoga stuff. So we had Jim Dandy up, we had

Whitney Weekend racing up there on YouTube.

This is on a Pharaoh 12 and they're coming up this week.

We're gonna have some 2 year old races from Whitney Day and some

of the Hall of Fame induction ceremonies, Justify Gun Runner

and Joel Rosario. So it was, it was a fun couple

couple days up there. If you could only take one of

those 3 Mike, what do you got? Justify Gun Runner or Joel

Rosario. No, Scott, those three give me a

gun runner. So, OK, Sean, what do you got?

I probably have to go justify. OK, all right, I'm I'm gun

runner a billion times and for those are the three options.

So there you go. But no, a solid, solid class

there gun runner, a great late bloomer.

It's fun to watch his kids now growing up the same way.

Obviously Justifies turned into a monster of a sire himself

undefeated 6 and O in his career in that awesome triple Triple

Crown. Will we ever forget that he beat

Gronkowski in the Belmont? The answer is no, people.

It's one of the great moments in horse racing history.

You understand me? That's all that's I forgot.

About Gronkowski. They're like, sure, we'll try

the we'll try the dirt shirt. By the way, they got a huge

check for it, so good for them. So yeah, just run your horse.

We'll figure it out later. But let's get into this card now

at Ellis Park on Sunday. It starts in Race 5.

Does the late pick six, they call it the Dade Park pick six

out there, that Cowboy Jones is the first race here.

Mile on the dirt for one point, $500,000, a $150,000 here.

Saudi crowd returns and I know Sean, you're a little wondering

why this horse is at Ellis Park and not somewhere else.

Yeah. Well, you know, you didn't

mention at the start of the show that the purse money's going up.

So, you know, that probably is a little bit of a slate, but you

know, he's coming off of kind of two, what I would consider

disappointing races from what you expected over in the Middle

East. And then to pop back up in this

race at Ellis, I just thought was kind of a little bit of a

random spot. And he's got eleven horses that

he's up against two on top of that.

So I think if there's a day to beat him in a race like this,

it's Sunday. I think this is a chance where

he could be vulnerable. Maybe he's not 100% yet and this

is supposed to just be that stepping stone.

So I would not be shocked if he runs off the screen and wins by

12. I wouldn't be shocked if he runs

5th. So it could be a good race.

Who beats him if he does if he does get beat?

Well, it depends on how much pace pressure he gets.

So the thing that I like in this race as far as getting him beat

is that I think a couple of his pace competition is going to be

directly inside of them. If they really push him and they

go really quick, I like raise Kane coming from far out of it.

I think he's gonna really like the turn in the half 'cause I

think he I think he likes the one turn.

I think the turn in the half he's gonna get Sunday is gonna

be a pretty good thing for him. And then if it's a little bit

more relaxed and he's just vulnerable up there on the lead,

I think injunction might be sitting that good trip right in

behind and maybe get get the pieces.

Yeah, injunction obviously coming out of that Shaffer

Memorial win up at Horseshoe Indianapolis.

Mike, you gonna try to beat side of Crown on Sunday?

Yeah, I I was like, you know, going through it.

It's like, is this just going to be the Brad cock pick six?

Is he just going to be firing? You know, like you looked at the

horse's house lining up. I mean, he could easily, you

know, come through it, but I saw the crown.

You feel class wise could be somewhere else.

Almost. It seems like not a race.

I when I saw it, I was surprised, but maybe it was just

just the spot. He's there.

Brad Hawks you know babies is easy and you know easy check and

because he hasn't picked up a couple checks and that little

flight to Saudi and back. I've talked to C2 racing my boys

there told me that how expensive it is to get wild burial back

from that same race. It's not not just you know not a

cheap thing and takes a lot out of the horse wild burial still

has not they think has not recovered from that trip ran the

dud after. So maybe that's why you haven't

maybe seen maybe he's struggling too to come back.

Easy spot maybe, or the old glorified workout for Mr. Cox is

how I'm going to kind of take it.

You got horses that have done stuff, you know, even like a

horse like Silver Prospector horses like can they find old

form, you know, or is it going to be someone that lightly race

too, you know? So it's just one of those one of

those things where I'm trying to try to beat them though, to get

to the point there. But I found the two here, Mr.

Wireless, you know, just seems like you said, if the speed kind

of goes his natural doesn't need the lead and if it's not over

the top, maybe, you know, not everyone, just you know, not too

much pace. I feel he gets the set up there.

So like Mr. Wireless had a small upset.

I'm curious of the money. It'll be real curious if if I

could see almost, you know, will Sonic crown go 2 to one if he's

2 to one is dead on the board. I feel like so kind of just

watch the money on you know on that because makes their Cox

crew also bets so they fire. So they'll kind of let you know

a little bit there. So I think everyone's going to

take a single too, though, on the pick six term all the time

to just take a price and then single, maybe use a you know, go

for it. If you lose, Hey, you have to

pick five, pick four, one of those things, but hey, at least.

You're trying to be your. Favorite.

So I think beating Saudi crown's the way to go though.

Yeah, and if you want to be aggressive in the pick six here,

maybe the way to play it is if you do think Saudi Crown's the

best here, which he is, let's be clear.

On paper, Guy's right, He's the best source here.

He's the classiest source for sure.

If you want to use them, though, maybe it's a 40 cent pick six

that you got to play here, right?

Really try to beef it up a little bit, hit it twice instead

of just once and wonder, you know, get your payouts later on.

I'll be interested Mike, as you you talk about watching that

wind pool, actually, where will he be in the payouts for the

pick five from the early pick five?

Because this does end that sequence.

And so I'll be watching that pool as well just to see if if

the sharper players that actually get to that fifth race

with a pick five. I'm very jealous of those people

by the way they get to hit pick fives the but no, it's I think

it's something I'll be watching as well.

I'm actually going to use him as a single.

I'll go classical class as we say on this show in the pick six

just to be able to spread a little bit later in the maybe at

a 2 year old race or something like that, try to catch some

value there. But I think your point about Mr.

Wireless as well, take it if you listen on to the Kentucky Racing

Spotlight today at 6:00 with me, I interviewed trader Brett

Calhoun about his three entrance in this sequence.

And man, Mr. Wireless, the horse that I've seen a lot actually

just 'cause he does run in the area, ran in that Shaffer, He's

not won it once and then ran really well last time behind

injunction. He's just a professional horse.

It gets Brian Hernandez, junior again here.

And I think Brian will give or excuse me, Brian's staying in at

Colonial too. So we actually got to start

watching some of these mounts on Sunday.

So be interested to see who picks up the mount for Mr.

Wireless for the Brett Calhoun horses over the weekend.

But I'm going to use a Saudi crown here.

You guys brought up a couple points about him that I think

are absolutely true. Which is it?

It's not easy to fly horses around anymore.

It just isn't. And so I think sometimes if he's

training at, at Churchill, he's just hanging out The two, you

know, the two hour ride down to, to Ellis for 100 1/2 might be

just as good as landing somewhere else for, I don't

know, 200. I mean, this is $50,000 more

than a grade 3 in California. I mean seriously, right.

So I mean, this is at some point we kind of have to look at that

this this way. Plus it's Brad Cox.

This horse has already made 2,000,000 bucks this year.

Do they need another check? I mean, you know, I he talks a

lot about confidence. I guess it's a confidence

booster for Saudi crowd. I'd look for him to win frankly

pretty easily in race 5, the Cowboy Jones race 6 is the Ellis

Park Derby. They go a mile on the dirt

course again here, $275,000 in this one.

We do get a Kentucky Derby alum in catalytic.

And I'm going to tell this story again.

And I apologize to all the listeners on this podcast who

have heard me tell this story, but I got asked to be on my

Fred, my friend Fred Cowgill's final Derby show. 38 years of

doing pre Derby shows on our local CBS affiliate here.

And he he had me on and he had me on to talk.

Oh gosh, endlessly. And then two other horses and

I'm blanking on which ones they were, but I get offset and the

producer runs up, she goes, hey, hey, hey, actually, can you come

back and do the last set? The last three horses?

I was like, yeah, sure, no problem.

Yeah, let's jump back on. And Catalytic was one of them.

And he looked at me and he said, tell me something great about

Catalink. And I said, Safi Joseph Junior

has the best man bun and chest hair combination in horse

racing. And that's what I said about

him. And now we get to see him run

again. How about that?

He's here in the Ellis Park Derby in the seven hole.

I thought frankly, for the First off the layoff, he looked pretty

good at Gulfstream last out. Mike, you give him a shot here,

you lead, and on who day, who do you think's going to take this

one? Yeah, no, I this is one of my my

pick six. I have a couple different ticket

styles that I do with like maybe a Saudi crown single and then

I'm going to do the opposite. But my single best horse I feel

is going to explode is the number 2 most wanted wins is

third in a row going up and Brad, this model Brad Cox's

moves. I just I have to trust Brad Cox

here. He went when I'm the one thing I

love is when a horse brakes is made in when's the next time

out? And then they go up again in

class again, you know, so like and you know, he's got to trust

Mr. Cox too. You know, here he's not just

enough. You know, if he was just there.

So it's easy. But this this this field is

suspect. You know what I mean?

Like Catalytic might go off as the favorite, which is

interesting. Safi's been hot.

No, I, I follow Safi. I'm, I'm all about, you know,

C2, right? My crew's with him.

I follow all his horses. He's winning all over the place.

So you got to be careful when he's winning, when he, you guys

just cycle, you know what I'm saying?

He has the waves, So. But I think Catalytic's a a

bust. Yeah.

I mean, I'm not. I think that horse could run

last on just to be honest. I've never liked this horse in

general, just, you know, not one of my types, you know, just I

think it's just Safi saw a spot, just said, hey, well, just kind

of, you know, money's right, send him easy ship because he's

probably in a maybe. I wouldn't be shocked.

This horse probably runs so bad he's going to throw him at

Kentucky downs, run him on the turf after this watch.

Like that's how I feel. He might be testing it, you

know, because I don't know. Catalinic has plenty of other

spots to it in California. Excuse me in Florida to just

keep him there. So I was kind of surprised he

shipped him for a steaks, which I mean, I don't know.

So I'm trying to think of his almost his next move because I'm

just obviously I don't like the horse.

You're so against him here. Yeah.

There you go. I'm.

Thinking turn. Do you at least agree with my

assessment of the man bun and chest hair?

Do you agree with that assessment?

Yeah. I mean, it's solid.

It's not close, right? You're probably if you're a guy

that rocks a man bun, not my look, not against people rock

it. You probably think he's the

goat. He's the.

Goat for sure. If you love man buns, you

probably are just whoa. This is a sport, I should say,

that loves its hair. I mean, we got Baffert the

silver fox. We got Saffy Joseph Junior just

dominating with that beautiful glistening chest hair.

You know, you've got, you got, you got Pletcher looking perfect

in New York all the time. That hair never moves.

Oh, it's what a sport for hair? It's like listen has that head.

As must at all. Let's go.

He grows. Your nose.

Like that one. Let it grow it back out.

Steve, you hear me? I know you listen to this show.

All right? Sean, Who you who?

You got the Els Park Derby Grade 1 California money in this one.

Well, one of the horses that I'm most intrigued by to see coming

in off of Big Layoff is Stretch Ride.

And he was the hardest. Yeah, I he was a horse I really

liked as a 2 year old. And if I remember correctly, I

think like in the paddock before the Kentucky Jockey Club, he was

really getting on his toes and really getting worked up.

Runs third in that race and then gone since.

So he's really intriguing to me to see how he's going to perform

off the layoff. I don't usually like putting all

my baskets in a horse or all my eggs in a basket of a horse

coming in off the layoff like that.

So I'm also looking at most wanted for Brad Cox and I'm also

kind of like not this boy a little bit.

I want to see how he performs on this level coming off that big

allowance victory that he had last time out.

I think a horse that's really gonna relish the distance

actually is. Give me a reason.

Christian Torres picks up the mound for Steve Asmussen here.

Longest odds on the board. Excuse me.

And I think this is a horse that just hasn't caught good

conditions in the last couple of races, one at that mile at a

16th distance at Churchill Downs to break his main at the very

highest level before. And, and excuse me, that was at

Oakland Park at the highest level.

And I do wonder if this is a horse that won't like getting

back to sort of that 1 1/2 turn mile.

And I love the price here, man, to get Christian Torres, Steve

Asmuss and the two of them with 1/4 of their races at Ellis Park

together. And so I, I, I think there's a

chance at a price here. And this will be the spreadiest

of my spread races here because I mean, look, Neil Roman's

usually not good with this kind of layoff.

But would we be stunned if stretch rides gets back into

form and wins here? I don't think we would.

His his numbers look good from his workouts at Churchill, all

those kinds of things. I wouldn't be stunned at any of

that. If Hude does finally step into

favoritism and winning one of these races, would we be

surprised or the Brad Cox with Most Wanted?

No. So this will be a very, very

spready, spready race for me because I think even the 10 to

one shot in here has a legitimate chance coming off of

just sloppy tracks and trying to mid 7 furlongs and doing

different things. Maybe getting back to more of a

mile, mile and a 16th kind of distance where he's got to go a

turn and a half will feature well for him, for Steve Asmussen

with that beautiful hair. All right, so let's move on to

the juvenile. This will be for two year olds.

Open company here, 7 furlongs on the dirt, $175,000 in the Kitty.

Here we see the return of Owen Almighty, who absolutely blew

people off the the stage in June and his debut.

We're also looking at 3 echoes. Who's back for Steve as well,

who's been in the Sanford and in the Tremont and frankly gotten

checks in both races? Over 100K for his career

already. Sean, where did you land in the

juvenile? I did not land on either of

those two. My pick in here is yeah, my pick

in here is politically correct, coming off as Bashford man, or

when I really like seeing him go wire to wire on debut and then

coming from last to win his next race in a large field in that

Bashford Christopher Davis. I talked to him after the race.

They were really high on this horse originally, right after

the the Bashford Manor. They had been saying they were

probably going to wait to the Iroquois with him.

So the fact that he shows up in this spot, to me that makes me

think that he's probably doing so well.

They need to run him in a race right now and they're not.

They're not able to wait on him. So I think he's going to run

huge in this spot. I can't remember the last time

the Bashford Manor winner showed up in his next race.

It was the 3rd betting favorite Mike, but here we are.

Who did you land on here? Yeah, you know, I thought it you

know, none of these horses have ran that sneaky 7 furlongs

distance, you know, and they're younger, you know, the seven

furlongs such a tweener. Are you a distance or a Sprint

horse? You know what?

And maybe a couple of these guys are thinking of their next race

even to see if they can go longer.

You know, it's one of those spots.

I think that's why the odds are so pretty even for like a

morning line, you know, if you would say.

But so I felt the my top play is the the four politically

correct, I think, but I have the one heat to come back here and

fire a number race 3 to one last time.

Something, you know, just kind of what it what was it?

Clipped, clipped heels and he was took money, you know, 3 to

one. And Mr. Cassie is probably

having one of his best 2 year old years in some time.

He's winning. I I'm a Fabe Cassie type guy

because he's usually a the odds. You know, he takes money.

So I'll try to beat him, but like I've been the opposite of

that on the baby races this year and he's he's winning at his

better clip. They was just talking on

Saratoga as a yesterday before they were interviewing about

that. So it's going to be hard for me

not to use that one there, especially if you're going to

get around 6:00 to 12:50 on him and that one hole, Does he just

gun it? Does he have something less?

And you know, again, if I like, since I like the four, this

horse took money and clipped hills against him.

So it's tough for me not to use them again.

So just some would probably include if you're using

multiple, you know, in the multi legs to me because just on those

angles. Yeah, Mr. Squeaky Wheels 2 here.

Axel Concepcion picks up the the mount here for we'll just call

it the Rice family because this, this horse seems to bounce

through all the rice stables throughout the country.

Ran a good fourth in that Sanford earlier this year.

Love when horses get that experience and then come back

and get another opportunity to do it here.

I got to say too about heat and I could not agree more.

Once in a while, these two year olds, you know, getting bumped

out of the gate and then someone steps on their foot and they're

like, you know what, I'm done, Like I'm good.

I'm going to step back from this race.

And then they they get back to training.

They get some of that confidence back.

And like Mike said, maybe the option there is just go try to

figure it out. Another tough race to try to

figure out. But I agree politically correct

here, man, It's it's a little difficult for me to understand

how this horse is third in the betting odds except that.

You know, 3 Echoes does have two time stake experience.

We're in August of his of his sophomore year, which is

fantastic. And then of course all in

Almighty with that big speed figure at Churchill Downs.

When you guys are looking at 2 year old races, do you assume

progress from race to race or are you kind of hoping that

you're able to guess when it's going to happen, Sean?

I think it really depends on the horse.

A lot of times I think the, you know, if like with politically

correct, for example, it's like, I like seeing that he's done two

different things and he's seen it.

And so I've seen that he's able to make kind of those mental

adjustments already. I mean, he's only run twice, but

you can already, you already feel confident about that with

him versus if you have a horse like he, I know you guys are

hoping that he's going to bounce back off of that.

I I look at his performance in the last race and I'm worried

maybe that puts something in his mind to where he's going to be

more cautious and so he's going to actually run maybe, you know,

not be as good as he was in that maiden race.

So it's like I like seeing that progression.

The good thing about this race is almost every single horse has

had at least two starts. Owen Almighty is the only one

that doesn't. So you can at least see, you

know, did they step up from their maiden win, run well, do

they run bad their next race or did they run bad their first

race, step up and win their maiden.

So that's kind of allowing you to see some of this progression.

Seven horses here. Mike, do you mind the outside

post for Owen Almighty, Because I don't.

No, not with seven furlongs. Think that's, you know, the rail

might be, you know, it's the speed.

It's all, you know, how fast and how many horses go, you know,

with the you know, the rail could be death or great if no

one breaks, you know, you know, maybe it's not the one, but I

think someone is it. No, you know, like you said,

these horses don't know how to pass yet, you know, lightly

race, someone gets out. Maybe they all follow an order.

You know the old sheet, you know, these kind of herd around,

you know, just like whatever type, you know, it's always a

tough. So no, seven oil doesn't bother

me at all. Has a 400.

He has the best Tomlinson number.

Also the 7400. I love Tomlinson number on

younger horses on a different distance, something they never

tried. So no, I think it should be

fine. But I think 83 first time out to

me is where I almost think you're gonna go backwards.

That's a high, it's a solid number.

You know, that's a really good number for.

Your A3 is great on debut. That's.

Right, You know what I mean. So and then you look at the ROI

trainer has 17% though, winning his last start, 19% in the

stakes. Mr. Lynch, you know, he's, it's

a wild card. You know, he's not, he's not

overly aggressive, but he'll you know, he's running them back,

you know, but so it's tough. ROI is not saying actually too

much to help you. It's all pretty bounced 15 to 17

across the board. So I think this, you know, to me

at 83, I want to be, I'm going to go against you, especially as

a favorite. You know what I mean?

Got it. All right, well, we'll move on

to the the lady side of things. The Debutante. 7 furlongs, other

dirt there. Another $175,000 purse here for

two year old Phillies. Missus Worldwide is in this

race. And now the Pitbull has bought

the naming rights to FI US Football Stadium.

I'm hoping he'll buy the naming rights to this horse as well.

That's a Pitbull joke on the horse racing happy hour.

How about that Mike Reddy? Who'd you land on on the

Debutante? I'm going to I'm taking a stand

with another single here on a pick six on one of the tickets

on the 10. The 10 American woman curious on

the odds might be the betting favorite.

My artist right with it. I feel like Christian Torres

horse jumped, you know, something woke up.

I feel like that buyer jump and just running it right back here.

I like the 10 hole too and kind of just let everything kind of

happen underneath you again, not worried about the outside of the

seven furlongs and I just should be able to sit the trip and I

just think there's nothing to happen underneath with natural

speed will be out there. I see a buyer jump again.

I expect the 80s to 90s and maybe something special here for

the 10 is what I'm hoping. But we'll see.

You know, it's. But yeah, I'm going to take a

stand there with the 10 there American woman, see if she can

get it done. American women a a $280,000

purchase in September at Keeneland last year.

Daughter of Constitution Smart strike mayor on that side.

Shawn, I wanted to ask you kind of a different question here.

We've got into Golden Rd., the one horse here coming out of a

maiden special in Saint Louis and then we've got and then

we've got to do Run Camilla Run coming out of Belterra Park

coming off of her coming off the turf.

We have stilettos coming out of a 16 and three quarter length

victory at Lone Star. How do you try to cap these

horses coming in from places like the tracks that I just

mentioned? Well, you also got she's a funky

drummer coming in from Prairie Meadows too.

Don't forget that one. But that was at least that was

at least Steaks Company. They were trying something.

There. They know why we ship for that

one. Otherwise we're talking about a

12,000. Dollar person.

Her maiden race before that was at Hawthorne, so you know.

But. You know, when you look at that,

you know, obviously their connections think that there's

something there if they're willing to take this shot.

But, you know, you always kind of look at them a little

suspiciously. The one that pulls my attention

the most is Stilettos coming out of Lone Star Park.

That's actually one of my choices here because she won by

so much. Because, yes, it's Lone Star

Park. The competition's probably not

as good down there, but the fact that she won by as large of a

margin means she's probably too good for those Phillies down

there. So bring her up here and take a

shot against, you know, your Kentucky horses.

And since we do have so many Phillies coming in from those

kind of tracks, it almost kind of maybe equals the playing

field a little bit that they're nodded in against the full field

of Kentucky horses. But I really like stilettos.

And I'm also, you know, I kind of like Rich City Girl too,

trained by Larry Ravelli. I like the fact that she came

over from or to Ellis Park for her maiden victory instead of

staying up in Hawthorne for Larry.

So I think that probably shows that he's got a lot of

confidence that that's going to be a pretty good one.

Larry Rovelli has won fourteen of his last 24 starts.

Wow. It's pretty good.

Might be might be OK to include him in your your your your

tickets here. I like that he's bringing David

Cohen in man here with with she's a funky drummer.

She wins last time out in that in the last at the lassie at at

Prairie Meadows last out over July four weekend.

The two of them hit together at 31%.

We're talking about a guy, David Cohen, that frankly probably

needs a Larry Ravelli right now to keep some of his numbers up.

And that's look, that's OK, though.

That happens to lots of jocks. We've seen it.

Hey, look what Dylan Davis, man, by the way, cool story.

How cool is it that that guy is riding his freaking head off at

Saratoga right now? That's awesome.

And so David's not unusual this way, right?

This happens with lots of guys who kind of need to reset.

I'll figure things back out. You know, after after Irad had

his really nasty spill, it took him a little bit to get back,

right? So sometimes, you know, it takes

guys a little bit of confidence boost, much like Saudi Crown, to

get back into the swing of things.

And so I'll be interested to see David aboard.

She's a funky drummer. I think that would be the horse

I would use if I wanted to get really aggressive.

It would be she's a funky drummer as a single in this

sequence to try to get some value.

But I think his other horse in here, Rich City Girl with her

Arter Corrales, I think she's going to end up being the one to

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The Autobot Oaks is race 975,000 in this Kitty. 7 furlongs again

obviously for three-year old Phillies.

We see some names in here guys that we got to watch on that

Oaks trail, a fun Oaks trail this year by the way, that was

absolutely spectacular. I hope people haven't forgotten

how great that was. In the spring we get Tarifa and

here we get some other, you know, more Sprint type horses

like a fibber for Chris Hartman in the two hole here.

Navy Bell is back in this race as well.

Mike, where did you land in the in the Oaks?

I think this is kind of a fun field man.

It is, it is, you know, it's, it's what I mean the, the one I

mean, Tarifa will. She's a class.

She you know, I but I've I've been against her.

I was the West Omaha Homer, like I like before West Omaha was

like that. I made I took a stand early on

her and thought she was going to like I was like she's going to

win the Uggs. I was throwing all these early

predictions. She he she's still shelved.

I'm guessing she's pregnant. But so I thought, you know, he

had so many good Phillies this year, Mr. Cox, you know, I mean,

that was West Omaha. I only think finished past third

place ever and he's she's shelf, you know.

So how good this Tarifa could be Just so much better than these

horses is what I'm kind of worried about.

But look, I've already have two singles kind of on my one where

I'm with kind of I feel favorite.

So we're going against them. If I'm going to pick six, I'm

spreading this race. Just take a stand.

It's not the biggest field and you know, kind of just go for

prices there. So I felt I was kind of leaning

back to the six Minks Palace there.

Saya's up coming in town. Saya's been cold kind of maybe

some, you know, little lighter jockey company for him.

You know, he's getting a little bit better, but he didn't come

here. He's on a couple other horses,

but I think this might be his best chance to win Grant, you

know, coming off a nice win And look, you know, one of those

spots I feel can 7 furlongs natural speed wrap them up late.

Hopefully the one just doesn't fire a dud.

But I'd also use the three. Is that Navy Bend Landry up

there? You know, horse gets, you know,

came from Glat now, you know, third time with our second time

off with the new barn there. I'm just trying to take a chance

out, you know, local guy, but I think to maybe, you know, pull

off something there just two horse that feel maybe you can

maybe beat the one, but I think the one's gonna be maybe one to

five. I mean, I think these are I

think that was almost a white morning line.

I'm telling you, this horse is gonna get hammered.

This, I mean this to. This field choose the favor of

the oaks. I'm thinking two to five, one to

five, right? I mean, if you look at really,

if you really go off numbers, what do you guys think?

I she was oh, she was not the favorite in the Did Torpedo Anna

end up being the favorite in the Oaks?

I can't. Remember I looked yesterday

because I was surprised that it wasn't Tarifa.

It was just FYI ended up. Being no, this class, I mean

it's I I hope some of these we see that spring form for some of

these Phillies again, because it was a fun group in the spring,

man trying to figure it out. And then I remember seeing,

gosh, it must have been like, and Sean knows how this is when

you're at Churchill the whole week of Derby week, you lose

track of which day was which, but it's I think it was

Wednesday and the Oaks futures opened and you could start

betting Friday races on Wednesday and then Derby on

Thursday, that kind of thing. And where Peter, Anna came out

as the favorite right away. And I thought, what the hell am

I not seeing? OK, I got to go back and I got

to look at this and I threw in my handicapping just because

other people's opinions, Right. Once in a while with your

gambling, you got to take other people's opinions for sure.

I've certainly learned that from this show.

But, you know, just just a yeah, I think she's going to get

hammered, too. Just that that that, you know,

that coxoroo combination. I mean, they hit almost a third

of their races at Ellis Park. And by the way, you mentioned

Greg Foley. I wanted to give him a shout

too, because we've had him on the show a couple times.

You mentioned him as a local, as a local trainer.

You're totally right. He's also great at picking off

these Listed stakes in the state of Kentucky.

Churchill Ellis, where they're up at Turfway, that kind of

stuff places his horses really well.

I think Navy Bell's a good pick here as well.

We also see a part of the new trend, which is that Peter

Erten's got horses in Kentucky by God.

What eras are we listening, living in here?

Sean, do you think Tambo has much of a chance here coming out

of that? Leslie's lady at a.

Treasure. Well, I really like Emory, who

she finished in that race and I thought she ran a really solid

effort in the test of this past weekend.

I agree. Yep.

So I'm, I'm interested to see how she comes off of that.

She was entering into that race off of, you know, kind of two

good allowance wins out West. Now she's familiar with being in

Kentucky, maybe runs a little bit better now second time in

the state. So I could definitely see her

running big. And she did defeat Navy Bell in

the two starts back as well. So on class wise, you know, she

kind of matches there. I like a little bit of a long

shot in here. Obviously, I think Tarifa's the

class of the field. She had a really rough trip in

the Kentucky Oaks, was way too far back.

I think if she breaks, she's going to be up there.

But I do like on the far outside attogate coming in two for two

for Steve Asmussen, you know, progressively got a little

better than that second start from where she was in the first

start. Yes, she's running Remington and

then she had a long layoff and came back at Lone Star.

But if I was going for the Lone Star horse in the last race, I

might as well go for the Lone Star horse in this race too.

So, you know, hopefully Lone Star is going to be represented

pretty big here, but I think she's affiliate forward at a big

price. Yeah, and those Texas tracks,

man, those are those are local tracks.

We talk about Greg Foley in Kentucky.

That's a local race for as Muslim, right.

So that's a, you know, that's a place where he definitely he

definitely shines. I will be including Mick's

Palace in my tickets no matter what.

And I don't know if you guys are like this at all, but her dad is

palace malice. And I don't know if you have a

horse like this in your life in your past, who's now like A5

seventy $510,000 kind of stud, but that horse made you so much

damn money on pick fours and pick fives where you you were so

smart because of a horse like palace Mouse.

And that was that horse For me, it was palace mouse.

I love that MFR. He's great.

And so I will always include his kids and my tickets.

And so pick mouse up for no, for no reason.

I mixed Palace is going to get included for me in this race.

I totally agree about Atagate on the outside.

I think these Arrogate kids are going to pick off a bunch more

stakes this year for sure. We saw in the Preakness,

obviously, and so I'll be interested to see if she

progresses on that buyer number as well.

They had to give her so much time off and she shows up at

Lone Star, she's totally ready to go at 5 1/2 breaks.

Great. And so obviously she's ready to

go a little bit longer here at 7 furlogs, which obviously for a

daughter of Arrogate shouldn't be any issue at all.

So let's head to the groupie doll.

This is the final race already, believe it or not, but this will

be the closer on the card and 175 in the Kitty here for a mile

for Phillies and Maris 3 and up. And this is the I love these

kinds of races, guys. I don't know if you're a geek

for these kinds of things where you just remember where you were

with all these horses either qualified or what other races

hidden connection tax is in here.

Gosh, there's one other one in here that I'm totally

forgetting. Oh, even like a magical loot

running in like the Royal Delta, this kind of stuff just horses

that we've seen all over the place.

I think tax Shawn is going to be a mega favorite here.

Do you try to beat her here or do you think she's the winner?

No, I've got her singled on mine.

So I just think they keep running her knees mile in the

16th, mile in an eighth races and she keep, you know, she won

the Black Eyed Susan in a mile and an eighth, but she keeps

like running. Not her best performance there.

And then the two times they shortened her up to one turn,

she was phenomenal. So this one's a 1 1/2 turn.

But I think that that's really going to be kind of in her

wheelhouse. As long as she gets a good trip,

I think she's she's not going to be beat.

That was an underrated version of the Black Eyed Susan text.

Who's your Philly and Faiza in that one?

Faiza took a ton of money. Those other two horses made me a

lot of money in the exacta that day at Pimlico.

Mike, where'd you land, man? Are you gonna be single in tax

or you looking around a little bit?

No, I'm gonna go. I'm going around spreading like

the pick six here, like because I've already using singles on a

on a skinnier ticket, I'll probably I could see myself

going to deep tax in my long shot that I actually have on top

here. My my longest shot of the whole

sequence here is the four Paguile Paguili.

I know I'm going to. I know I said that totally.

You're good. That's fine.

But look, it just seems like one of these horses that fires right

back last two, you know, this last four 5-6 races hasn't been

out of second and it's just around the lead.

And you know, it's one of those race like you said, all these

horses have shined, ran duds who shows up randomly just randomly

all his horses back vanish, you know, so like tax should should

on paper blow people out, you know, but no, I'm going to hope

not for this on betting a win bet there and with the four

here, look, you got the axe man try.

I'm almost wire him. You just send it in hope I'm

thinking or he can sit. He's going to be close to the

lead and hope these horses don't show up with their some of them

don't have their true speed. They're just off.

You know, one of those things looks, you know, paper wise tax

is going to be tough. And I think the other one will

take musical mischief is going to take money for sure, just

kind of recency, you know, But again, a horse stink is going to

be one of those. And especially if, like you look

at the race before, I don't know, I sometimes do this,

sometimes that not that's, you know, goes chalked in long shot

or vice versa. So let's say race 9 Tarifa,

Tarifa beats the hell out of them.

I'm going to do I'll probably do a double her to prices and then

do a reverse double single tax and then long shots in the tax.

So then you have kind of both and one may one of those two I

think will win, you know, and that last two sequence tax or

Tarifa wins one of those two. I don't I'm going to I'm a whole

not, but I can just mentally this class wise, you know, so

I'm going to do that was going to be a bet I'm going to do and

this I'll win hopefully either way with my long shots back in

one of those two up to just something I like to do and

stakes races with the really talented horses that you know

could show up or not type thing. I, I really like the pagal angle

that you have. She's 4 for six lifetime in a

mile, man. I mean, that's not an accident,

right? And, and one of the other

finishes was second. I, I love that angle of

handicapping. Does the horse like the distance

You talked about that sneaky 7 in this case, this horse just

likes going a mile and this is the opportunity to do just that.

There's another logger horse, logger shot horse in here that I

think is interesting and I can't quite figure out what to do

because she's only run in the slop since the beginning of May,

but she's run and won twice. And that's the daughter of

Justify. Fancy the 7:20 to 1:00 and I get

a guy who's riding his head off at Ellis Park and Jaime Torres

in that one. I like that price of 20 to one

and in a pick six, no matter what, that horse is going to be

part of my my ticket at the very end because I, I mean.

Looking at those, she's won two of her last three.

She's running in the highest level allowances at Churchill

Downs and in the maiden, in the maiden races there.

It's almost like she started her career in May.

I'm not kidding, because before that she just couldn't figure it

out and it's almost like it just clicked for her.

The light went on. I think it's 20 to one.

I think you won't get anywhere near that.

I think that horse will be like 12 to one, something like that.

But still, we get double division odds on a horse like

that. A guy like Jaime Torres who's

been doing great things down at Ellis Park, Really happy for

him, frankly, because he's a really good guy.

But all those things could. Beat her in what loss?

Said he got beater in. That we could beat her in that

loss. Oh gosh, I didn't even.

Oh yeah. It's Begal.

It's begal. There you go.

So the two of. Them are we taking long shots to

key in on? There you go.

Yeah. We'll see if we're going to find

out if that race was worth a damn.

How about that? But, you know, a horse, a horse

we didn't talk about. Who's won for her last 13 is

Hidden Connection. Brett Calhoun has Christian

Torres aboard for her as well. I I'll say this, I won't be

stunned if she wins the race on on Sunday, but I'll be

surprised. I mean, I'll be surprised if she

jumps up and wins here. Sean, would you be surprised?

I would be, you know, she's she's so showed so much

potential when she won the Pocahontas and she's just never

gotten back to that. And she's always running

against, you know, really good competition.

She's got tons of great at stakes placings, but she just,

she, it just seems like she can never get that victory unless

there are is an absence of other talent.

And I think there is talent in this race.

So I she's just one that I have to.

If she beats me, she beats me. But at this point I just can't

trust her to get the win. I'm trying to figure out who's

going to get the mount. It might be like Corey Lannery

will get the mount on tax because Brian's staying at

Colonial. Does that change your

handicapping at all, Sean? I don't think so.

Corey Landry. I'm guessing Corey Landry and I,

I, yeah, it's, I don't even want to call it a step down because I

think at Ellis Corey's as good as anyone.

And so, but yeah, that that wouldn't change your

handicapping though. No, I don't think so.

I I think tax is the kind of horse where you know, whatever

rider she ends up with, I think she'll be fine.

All right. I think I would be remiss not to

ask you guys for some of your picks and other big races around

the country. Do we have, I mean, are we

trying to beat the faves in the Arlington millionaire?

We gonna lead on an Ottoman fleet.

Are we gonna try to do that? What do you what do you guys

think about the the old, the million this weekend?

Have we got a chance to look at Sunday's card there at Colonial,

Sean? Let's see, I'm taking off.

I'm reminding myself who's in the field right now.

So that essentially the two euros are Ancient Rome and

nation's pride and then you get integration coming in out of

that. That million preview at colonial

that was also over soft go. So I don't want to dismiss that

all together, but a lot of horses scratched out that day.

It was a very uneven set of races.

I think the Beverly Bee preview had three horses in it,

something like that. And so did you land on anyone?

I had Caitlin free on our 680 show this morning and she said,

look, I'm boring in this one, but she's she's with Ottoman

fleet. She told me.

And I think this is worth mentioning even on this show as

well. Both both Charles Appleby and

Bill Buick are at Colonial this weekend, That's all.

I don't think CC, she said. I don't think Charlie makes

that. Yeah, I think Charlie doesn't

make that trip unless he means it.

And I think she's right. Mike, do you read into that too,

that that Charlie's going to be in outside of Richmond?

I mean, it is tough not to. It's hard not to.

But I don't know if he's, if he's planning on, if he's just

chilling at Saratoga. It's not too bad, though.

I, I, I know he's in New York. I saw him, so I don't know if he

ever left Saratoga, so. And they just had the sail, so

not the worst. So maybe he's like, let's go see

what this place all about, you know?

But yeah. Right.

Sure, right. He's so fairpoint.

He's, I mean, he, him on the turf.

Like you said, though, you just have, I mean, it's tough.

It's terrifying to go against, you know, a lot of times too,

you know, you just. Well, it's just so many of these

horses, there's distance questions with everybody except

for the €2.00, right? I mean, it's really, you know,

it's really where we're at in this.

And I'm I'm I mean, I'm interested in other horses in

this race, but I mean Julia Leperu, God bless him and I

really like him and you know, whatever else.

And that horse is 4 for five this year.

I want to be really quick clear. Segoy's having a year, right

shows up in that trolley Wood loses a web Slinger by half of

like I'm not holding anybody losing a web Slinger at

Churchill Downs against them ever.

We're not doing that on this show.

And so, you know, Segoy's been a really, really nice horse this

year. But we're talking moving from

A50 claimer, you know, wins that grade three in the in the

Louisville obviously really, really good and was really good

last out at the Charlie Wood. But man, we're talking about a

soft surface with the horses of the the quality of a you know, a

Jamie Spencer to Bill Buick with with mounts here.

Just seems like a a bit of a climb there.

I do think on the outside talk of the nation, I think that's

one where it's a the horse is a Miller and they're trying to get

a check. I think they're just going to

send that horse and I wonder if that's just where they say, hey,

hey, Jose, try to make it slow. Just try try to make it slow and

we'll see what happens. But if I wanted to go upset, I

would probably lean outside to talk of the Nation for Todd

Pletcher more than I would say, for example, play integration in

that one. So there you go.

All right, boys, anything at at Saratoga this weekend whenever

they actually run again? Anything interesting for you

guys? I'm on Charita, though it more

than looks. Oh, could not agree more dude.

Could not agree. More, give me more.

I'm running more and looks back. Thank you yes, I could not agree

more. She's that's not an accident.

She's got that horse in that spot.

I totally. Agree.

No no, I'm like I really enjoy how that horse runs.

She's had a great year and a half, two years.

She's just going to keep doing well and excelling.

Love what she's all about that, you know, then she just has the

right horses seem very well spotted when she runs, you know?

So yeah, I think more than looks will be maybe if you get 3 to

one on more than looks all day, you know, I mean, I don't think

you'll be. I don't think it'll be any

higher. Could be even lower.

It's an interesting feel. Not much to it, you know, but

yeah, that's who I that's who I'm leaning with for if they, if

it happens on turf, if it actually goes on, if the race

happens. Either of you guys are going to

try to beat Cogburn this weekend?

Well, that's the race I'm interested in because, you know,

they move, they're moving the other two races because of the

turf. So I guess this race would be

coming onto the dirt. So if it comes onto the dirt, I

want to see if he's as effective now because he won on dirt in

the past he's been decent on dirt, but he seems like another

horse, a completely different horse in the last couple months.

So I'd be interested to see if he can carry that over onto the

main track, but I don't know that's a big field.

I just feel like, you know, the setting, the record for that

race and the diaper just kind of seemed a little out there to me.

Like I wasn't one that you would have expected.

So I wouldn't be shocked if he bounced.

And especially, I mean, everybody's kind of in this

boat, but with the race now being a week, week later than it

was supposed to be, does that mess with any kind of timing or

anything like that? So I I think he could possibly

be upset but he's the most intriguing 1 to me.

Yeah, he's interesting, man. I got to tell you, if they take

that race off the turf, which would be kind of surprising

because they love to protect their grades at at at Saratoga

for sure. I think witty is a must use in

that spot. I, I, I think that horse just

battles. It'll be a dry go on the dirt by

the time they get to that race on Saturday.

I, I really wonder if breaking from the one for for Lizzie

Merriman, if, if witty will be the horse that just goes Jose's.

They go to him and say, hey, just go win the race, just go.

And so I wonder if that'll be Witty who by the way, that horse

just doesn't missed the top two. So let me do the math here.

461111 of that horses last 14 races has been in the top two.

So make sure you include Witty even if they stay on the turf

somehow with that race. Include Witty and your exotics

this weekend as well. All right, well he's Sean

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Everybody knows about Blood Horse, but tell him about your

Well, you don't need to talk about your YouTube page either,

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this attractive mug. Right, that video turned out

pretty nice I would say. I really liked how that turned.

Out it got a lot of nice responses too.

I got some text about that too, people giving me a hard time,

which is great because I, well, Matt's unbelievable, but I, I, I

intentionally asked because I, I, I, I think in horse racing,

you know, because Sean, you and I are not.

And I don't know, Mike, I don't know if you're the same way, but

I didn't grow up around the track.

Like, you know, I didn't go to the track till I was in my 20s.

My kids are obviously growing up differently than that, but I

don't, I don't assume that everyone's just got this all

time horse racing knowledge. So he's like, yeah, the track

announcer when I was growing up in Del Mar, blah, blah, blah.

And I was like, so who is that? And someone texted me like,

dude, you know who that is? I'm like, well, I know that, but

it doesn't mean that people know that Trevor Denman's been there

for 50 years or whatever, you know?

I mean, like people don't know that.

And but I want him to say it out loud the way he said, do you

remember what he said, Sean? It actually really stands out to

me. I'll probably remember the

moment for a while. I said, well, who was called

Nearest? And he just said Trevor, like he

said it like it was his uncle or something, right?

And that's no, but that's cool as hell, man.

If you grew up in San Diego, Trevor's your dude, right?

That's awesome. I love that kind of stuff, man,

That's cool. So that part of the interview I

thought was really cool, and Mike, I didn't.

I thought the interview just worked really well because it

was a lot more, it was a lot more relaxed than your normal

interview. You're able to kind of get to

know Matt a little bit, kind of see his personality shine

through a little bit more. So I thought that that worked

out pretty well. He's so good for the game.

I'm I'm so happy that he's in spots like Oaklawn and now at

Monmouth where he can be in both spots and, and they're both the

kinds of meats that if you love betting horse racing, man, those

are great tracks, big fields, really playable sequences, all

that kind of stuff. And, and it's just, it's been a

fantastic move at ready time for our guy Mike Rennie.

Mike, what did you get in your coffee this morning?

Today was just so you know about four shots and the little melt

little cream. That's how you know easy day.

Then a bunch of then I I do my espresso, then I drink my

regular coffee till about right now is my cut off new.

I try to stop at 12, you know like have the.

And then discipline, yeah. Then we're just, we're just,

we're cooking, you know? We're just, we're all over the

place, dialed in, love. There you go.

How will you guys probably play this weekend?

I know we talked about a pick six.

I always try to pick people's brains about the types of

tickets they're going to play. If you're looking at an Ellis

Park, you're looking at these six sticks.

I've already said I'm going to try the pick six because you

know, Mike, I'm like you, I think there might be more than

one single, which makes this like a 20 cent pick four, right?

For a guy like me who's not betting, you know, a couple

grand a weekend, it makes sense that I would try to key in on

this kind of sequence. But I do think if you wanted to

be really aggressive, if some of these horses that we talked

about that are, you know, six to one on the morning line, you

want a single. Might be fun to play like a like

a four 5-6 dollar base kind of pick three as well.

Try to pick off one of those horses in the middle of the

sequence where other people can't see it.

Will you just be playing the pick six?

Mike, you think on Sunday you mentioned those double S, right?

It was interesting too. Yeah, no, no, I'm a pick six.

I'm a random player. I'm, I'm big time pick 3, double

S pick four. Look, I just view it all as kind

of like the more, the more legs you add, the harder it's always

going to be just like a damn parlay in sports.

You know, you need to deal with more shit.

So I've cut back to more, you know, compacting it and like you

said, take a stand with the 6:00 to 12:50 single and a pick three

and then just kind of open it up after that, you know, take, you

know, it's it's tough to it's tough to single multiple long

shots. One favorites are winning higher

than ever. Used to be around 32 to 33% shit

Indiana grands 40% the favorites winning like there's like it's

so different now. You know what I mean?

Late money. It's so it's just just a whole

nother, you know, animal with all that.

So so yeah, just take a stand and then kind of open it up

after. It's kind of like that long shot

spread spread with you a little bit.

I'm a big tossing a favorite. If I sing a little favorite, I'm

going to toss a favorite. You know, like I'm just going

for a certain amount of money. You know, you can you could dial

up what you're going to make on the ticket.

You know, I think some people get.

Confused. You'll see they'll they'll post

a winning ticket. I only paid, you know, 30 bucks.

Well, you had a favorite in every race, so.

Yeah. Right.

Yeah, they're gonna pay that if they all win, You know, you got

to, you know, people I think is, you know, so just making sure to

know what my payout's gonna be by just dialing up, by tossing

favorites or using favorites, by singling long shots, taking

stands up. But yeah, pick threes, man.

I think people slip on those, sleep on those a little bit.

You get caught in pick five, pick fours, you know, go.

Because look, there's a reason why they're enticing lower

money, you win more. You know, there's a reason why

pick fives are great, though. That's another reason.

So take a stand. You definitely cook up a ticket,

you know, and I think that card suits up for a cheaper ticket

too. If you want, You don't, you can

go late, pick five, late, pick four, take a stand with a couple

6 and ones use a couple of those probably heavy favorites and you

know, and then do a backup ticket 1.

The denomination spread a little bit more than you'll have a

couple tickets, you know, ABC type style tickets.

So that's how we kind of go out there.

Pick three side pick 4. Well, when Sean and I were

there, we both like get smoking to start the late pick four.

I went ahead and singled that horse, put my ticket together.

He went off at I think 8 or 9 to one.

And because I had singled Mike, I was able to play that for a

dollar instead of playing it for $0.50.

And so my $600.00 payout turned into 1200 bucks on a $50 ticket.

Like that's how you do it, right?

And so, you know, if you could get those, nothing better.

That's exactly right. So actually, I had to stay at

Monmouth longer than I thought cuz I had to cash those.

Look, man, I'm at the track. I'm.

I'm getting paper tickets. You understand me?

I'm holding the ticket. It's gonna be close to my heart

in the pocket, you understand? Unlike my family.

Just kidding. I'm just kidding.

Sean. What do you think you'll be

playing at Ellis this man? Well, I'm probably gonna be

looking at a lot of the pick threes and the double S around

some of the horses that I like. You know, I really like the

placement on the card where that Ellis Park juvenile is because,

you know, I really, I probably would look at playing like pick

threes and double s with politically correct singles

because I think both the race before and the race after are

ones where you could spread and, you know, maybe catch a price.

And if you really, if you're like me, where I think Saudi

crime's vulnerable and you got a couple prices, you like beat

him. If you can beat him in that

first leg and then end with politically correct singled in,

that was I just think it's placed perfectly for that.

And then on the same side, a flip side of that, if you're

really liking a horse like Tarifa, you know, the race

before and the race after could possibly be open for a price.

You know, I, I like tax in that last race.

So I don't think she's going to get beat there.

But if she does and you're spread to a couple long shots in

that spot. So I think that's the way to

play it this weekend. There's a couple races where if

you're really confident in that single, the other races are open

enough to where you can maybe get yourself a decent decent

payout. Yeah, I, I would say the average

pick three in Kentucky's paying somewhere in the neighborhood of

of 60 to one. But remember, if you play it for

$0.50, you're getting $30.00 on that, right.

So, you know, like you said, take a stand, make it a dollar

$2.00, that kind of thing. You know, you could play a lot

of those tickets for 8/12/20 bucks.

I mean, you can get in, you know, I played a, gosh, we were

out of Del Mar last weekend. We or excuse me, playing Del Mar

last weekend. I was not at Del Mar last

weekend. But you know, you know, you're

telling me brother. And so, but like, if I like two

horses in, in three consecutive races or something, you can play

that for 5 bucks for not a huge amount of money, right?

And then you've got, you've got it 10 times essentially in that

sequence. And so, yeah, look, look to

look, press your tickets and trust your opinions, people.

You know, that's, that's what this game's all about.

Trust your opinions, it is gambling after all, but at the

end of the day, it is informed gambling.

Hopefully you learned something today.

His name is Sean Collins, he's with Blood Horse and our guy

Mike Rennie out on the West Coast.

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