Louis and Mike sit down with Dan Illman & John Piassek to talk all things Road to Preakness and Maryland bred. Louis gives his picks for the Whitmore.
Fun Facts – Road to Preakness Returns!
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All right, welcome to the horse-racing happy hour.
Maryland addition, you like that Marilyn addition.
We're making horse racing. Happy our history here today, by
the way, because both Louis and I are wearing a tie.
Neither one of us have the top button bud?
No, no. But we are wearing a tie and
we're joined with the special, you special Pimlico Road to the
Preakness shows by of course, Daniel Ullman.
Dan. How's it going?
Rocking? The Canterbury Park sweatshirt
which we love. Love it and just take the news
that Jim Boeheim was retired. From Syracuse.
It's about time. Don't you think?
Yeah, 100%. Yeah, let's be honest.
What a terrible way to handle a situation but are you surprised
my out but boy just you know, at least open the door you know if
you give him the bum's rush through the window especially
since it's one of his own guys and frankly, one of his greatest
guys, right? Yeah.
Then, of course you have jumpy has it.
John. How are you?
You know, it's almost spring. It's light out, past 7:00 down
here. There's five great steaks at at
all Park. I really could not be doing any
better. However, that being said, Adobe
is getting closer and closer and a Maryland.
Red post time is not on on Adobe Trail.
He's on the sidelines and with every Derby prep it goes by and
every hose it drops off the trail.
I feel like Someone who had a lottery ticket in the pocket.
Watch the drop into a sewer and then found out.
It was going to be the winning ticket.
Okay. So that's how I feel every day.
All right, sounds good. Are you not a?
Are you not a st. Patrick's Day if not.
Well, I'm not a seasonal guy. I mean, with these cute, this is
how marketing works. Or so I've been told it's at
these cute little tie-ins and things like that.
I mean, yeah, I gotta get it. I should be fair.
Louis is good for any tie into the Flemish.
Okay? That's just the Irish.
That he hasn't also blobs on there.
I'm all over. That's right.
If you called this like I don't know like spinach mashed potato
day. Like that would be considerably
better. Okay.
And The second part is, I mean, I thought we had a conversation.
Maryland, Jockey Club. I thought we talked.
I thought we were better than this now to have this race as
the finale of this. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we talked about this. I thought we were over this.
I thought we were doing this anymore, and I think that's what
you simmer down the races, race day names.
Bastian pot of gold day, he got that, you know?
Yeah. We can't the last race last time
because it was such a good. Nice little starter optional.
Try to have a civilization like eight thousand dollar claimer.
We're living in a society the oh Joe not just any kind of
claimer, an eight thousand dollar claimer, it's get cleaned
or go become glue, one of the two, it's one of the two things
is going to happen in that race, okay?
So do we want to hop right into it or what?
All right, let's go with the converse takes.
Seven furlongs on the dirt. This is the first of five stakes
races on the card here Laurel Park and we'll start with John
here John. Tell us about all these great
horses in the Laurel Park. You actually don't have to talk
about Oli courses, just really ones that would you like stay
back here? Well it's a field of eight all
them. Maryland, Reds going seven
furlongs named after a great Marilyn vertebrae of the late
1940s and when I first saw the in truth, I was a bit surprised
not to see You just threw in here.
Who is the now, defending Maryland, red horse with you.
Apparently, she's getting a well-deserved break.
Don't play no role, she has had a very busy u+.
And I first thought when I didn't see who needed Andrews
was, oh, at least, it'll be a more competitive race now that
she's not in it. And I look a little bit closer
and I was reminded that response time was in here and I'm like,
oh yeah, you know, it's stuck it's going to be A layer of just
response, time is beat him senseless.
Instead of feed is free. She's won three out of the last
41. Pretty comfortably, two stones
back is by drifting out in, in a pretty game effort.
And in fact, I for that Grace might inspire people, take a
shot in the Boba Fett, she didn't go there one and open
allowance, even more than festively following Friday owned
a, a career-best prisoners. Figure of 95 and factors were
Least a 90 one in three of his last four starts.
Everyone else in the still struggles to get.
There are even once this very Stars wrap up late pick five,
it's it melted for. I think you are better off
singling and just moving on because she's going to be very
tough. Sure Response times absolutely
up in this race. I agree that she's the horse to
beat, but you have a ward Wanted coming in turning back to seven,
furlongs, and she's run some really nice races against Stakes
competition. She's a proven steak Source
while responding. Since time is now going to be
stepping up and for several nights allowance Victory.
So I still think there's some things for response time to
prove. She is the horse to be to me.
The question is am interested in all of your thoughts can Street,
Luke run anymore, it's tree. Glued can run when she probably
is going to win this race because she has all the back
class and she has all the figures in the numbers in the
speed. Her last race.
If you simply want to make an excuse and say hey it was her
first start of a long layoff. She probably needed it.
She gained a lot of fitness and she's going to take a big step
forward. She might be the horse for you.
On the other hand, if you think he's getting a little bit long
in the tooth, I get that as well.
Yeah, I've got her on top. I've got Street sensor Street,
luta to the street signs. Yes, of course, I have three
sons of High Street, Luna grew up in Detroit.
He's got streets in the layoffs 5411 lifetime at Laurel Park and
then 18% stakes races for the Rob on.
So they know how to place their horses as well and so yeah, I
have six on top here. I do think you have to include
the one in two or the one and three, excuse me, if you're
making a longer ticket here, but that's she's The wild card here,
especially you know, press Rob, go together at 24% at at Laura
lasswell in a massive sample size.
So, to me, that's absolutely a play here.
So I would go six three and one. All right, so Dan the jockey on
response time is Barbosa, who was a finalist for Apprentice
jockey of the year. So this is a jockey that is
going to be just coming up on the, on the major scene, right?
I mean, tell us a little bit about what you've see for
Barbosa as a rider, he's phenomenal.
And Maryland is always been a Meeting ground for great, young
jockeys, whether you go all the way back to the Kent desormeaux
Sandy Edgar. Prados, and we've seen great
young jockeys and he might be, if he stays healthy the next one
because it's every other day, it seems three wins for Barbosa for
wins for Barbosa and a lot of times, okay?
When their Apprentice Riders, they get hot players, take
advantage of the weight off, they win Races, they lose the
bug and all the sudden they drop off the face of the Earth, not.
So with Barbosa, he's very aggressive out of the gate.
He has good hands. I really We think he's going to
be a major major factor all season long in Maryland.
If he stays healthy you're going to be hearing a lot more.
He's just a young kid so he's got a big future.
All right, were noting to he came here here last April.
And without any exclamation, he became pretty much the top
jockey in Maryland right out of the box.
First full meeting Road who was was lost during meet and he won
that title as Dad flew to the other day.
He wants five races on a dress code.
So he, as I said, has a very bright future.
Man, that's some just amazing to think that you kind of Hit the
scene when the jockey title because you know anybody follows
horse race. He knows how hard it is to get
the really good mounts when you're relatively unknown in
your add a new track. I mean that's that's that just
shows how good a rider he really is.
Okay, we're going to move on to the 6 race, which is the not for
love Stakes as six Furlong on the dirt.
Louis did you like Miss risk? I think there's two obvious
speed horses in here between Eastern Bay, the 5 and the 6, Al
loves Josie, both of them, all the numbers make sense.
It's as far as the connections and all of that Norm cash
shipping. And for this one does, he has
actually run a fair number of horses at Laurel this in the
most recent meet here and so he's up to she's over 60 horses.
So she starts this incredible so you feels like because he's got
horses everywhere that you forget that there are places
where he's really hunkered down in this kind of race.
I don't know if you guys feel the same way, but once in a
while I look at the weights in the horse, carrying the most
weight to me once in a while is just the horse to try to beat.
And in this case, Is Eastern. Baked are 226 pounds here
because of all the conditions did finished fourth last time in
the mud at Aqueduct comes back to Laurel where there are 13
lifetime wins on his. Excuse me on his card including
this year earlier in February, a loves Josie comes in here as
well as a horse that's 16 or 15 or 4 of 9 at the distance.
And so, these two for me, I think you can use them and feel
pretty safe in this part of the sequence.
All right, what do you say? What says you John?
I mean, it's hard. Not, not, not a cheerful.
Eastern Bay. I mean he just became a
millionaire to starts back One D General, George in a very
emotional win for everybody involved.
As was the highest owning amount of the late every whisper Who
had who was honored that day at as Louis noted, he loves law.
Has a lot of experience on this track last time out here, one
badly in the town for one fact doing one of his highest
everything is. I think it was a matter of him.
I'm kind of being out class now. I think.
It'll be easier. That being said, I think I'll go
go against him to and not because I don't think he's as
good as advertised but I have been keeping my eye on a loves,
chose you for a long time. He's run a lot of really good
races recently. I have been waiting to be in the
stakes for a long time in this spot is typically and now I
think it's time to come to shine last time out was kind of a big
statement win for him, was in a tough third level allows offer
exciting field. He had gone to D 2, y 0, 2 studs
bag and I was kind of curious. Is he a neatly type or can t
afford it off the pace? You got a perfect stocking trip
even though Xavier who has lost the whip?
At the top of the stretch, he still Drew off one by three and
a half lengths. So he doesn't have to go to the
phone and as you mentioned, there is a lot of speed in here
so we can and take off and he might get the jump on on, on on
Eastern Bay who do George notwithstanding usually comes
from a bit further off and if a loves Josie gets a tooth, You
like head start on the photo turn.
He could take the lead and may prove too tough catch.
Do you think Breezy gustas fast enough to win this race?
He was the horse. I was just going to mention
because I think you guys handled the two top contenders very well
Breezy gusts coming into this race off a couple of 90 buyers
speed figures and I really thought his last race was okay,
some folks may watch that video and say, how's Gracie got
supposed to lose that race? He's got two and a half on the
field at the eighth pole and he got run down.
Well, he had to work a lot in the early part of that.
Race. It was on a hard Chase, he
finally inhaled the pace Setter and then a good horse named
Winnie. Use a steak Source coming up.
A long layoff was able to run him down.
I think Breezy Gus is going to take advantage of the fact that
there are some speeds to his inside and sit your ass off.
Is he good enough to be Eastern Bay or olives Josie?
I don't know, I do know. This will be three times the
price. All right, there you go.
So right now, like we could have a pretty skinny ticket.
You could. It's, it's take bread racist,
man. Sometimes sometimes I was
Azaleas are playing a pick five or a and pick for in this race
Eastern Bay is is going to be such a long face.
You must have to single him or not, use them at all.
In fact, I think greasy gust and oil olives Josie could be very
could be very interesting singles.
Okay, so there you go. So now we're going to get into
the hairs need Johnson. This race was named for
African-American trainer here at the Johnson.
American Veteran who died in 1985 at the age of four.
T5 in a plane crash. So there you go.
There's your fun fact of the day, I don't know how fun it is
to be. Dynamite crash.
Didn't stop. Not fun, you know, just a fast.
Well fact, that is most phone, is he trained Gusty?
O'Shea, who are immoral inverter winner open, 1873 whole for who
debuted in a five thousand dollar meeting cleaning crews.
At Shenandoah Downs that June, he had shipped up of sand food
earlier in Saratoga my carbonyl Oak.
In fact I think Harrison tied, his horse man.
The back of his car drove him up and bit of a hard time getting
in because the guy at the gate didn't believe that he was a
trainer but he got and he finished third in the Sanford,
came back up the hopeful and I think he was either the first or
one of those Maryland Birds ever to win a great one because it
was supposed to upgrade upgrade steak system.
I want to know exactly how you knew that because you just well
I am the cause marriage of my own voice scooter.
So I understand that is like, still historical fact.
For a hundred thousand dollars for four year olds and up.
So Dan we let you go first here. Well it's going to be a short
price favorite in here and it's going to be nimitz-class, he
looks pretty logical on paper ever since they stretched him
out around a route. Aground on dirt, he's
unbeatable. I think he's 343 and he's very
versatile, he went from off the Stu starts back at last time
out, he got a great ride and trip, he just totally do.
Realize there was a lot of speed in the race and he just went
right after it. Drop the anchor on the
backstretch, slowed it up and Sprint it on home.
And I usually don't love playing short priced horses, coming off
perfect trips. But this works really ran in the
stretch and he's just a consistent performer.
You don't have to just base them off of that, last race.
If I was looking for a long shot in here, you might want to think
about American Patrol, who's running lines.
Look. Absolutely horrible.
But I think you can Use them is at least two of his last three
are on wet tracks and he can't stand up on a wet track.
I talk to Cal Lynch a couple of weeks ago about American Patrol
and he said in his last race, he stumbled bad at the start, he
threw his shoe, he grabbed the quarter, a lot of excuses in
that race. His fast-track form is good.
I think you'll be a good price, whether he's sharp enough right
now to beat nimitz-class. I'm not sure good at speed
figure his last race in 2022. Really stands out like you can
cook. You can look at those as like,
one of these is not like the They're so yeah for sure.
All right. John would you think here?
I also think name is class is going to be hard to beat this
two voices in here. I'm kinda interested in as an
alternative. Number one, American Duo.
Really likes this track. He's won three of his last six
in. Pretty impressive stuff, it
wasn't great for him. Last fall when he won
back-to-back allows actual claiming races in style went
into a little bit of a lull over the most of want to bounce back.
Back. But I got see win last time out,
we're here and downs. Have a cadaver who had been in
great for me, and a nice little winning streak in upper level
allowances, think, is well suited for a 110-mile, and he
should be running on late. And number three, is a horse who
has fascinated me for a long time.
That's hello. Hot rod be younger, half-brother
of. Hello, beautiful.
Who was a big step forward in the long run?
Charlie, let's just be very narrow right there.
Not a relation to being two of us.
I think so, but no. Hello.
He want Jimmy Wingfield at Aqueduct two years ago ever
since then he was sold. Not long.
After that left. Maryland and has been campaign
in kind of a strange way. He was stretched out for a
while. He was on grass, he was on
synthetic, couldn't quite get into a rhythm and a nice long
run. It Remington Park last year
where he won two in a row and almost want to steaks there on a
spring ball in mild day and have coming in fourth recently
returned to the pretty well. So bone in his first local Stone
in a while. Going this one too, in my land.
And and in fact, LED most of the way for retiring and and
finishing, third behind American and they are, he's got a stone
under the trap, on the track under his belt.
He's had some good workouts since then, I think is well
suited for a 12-mile based on that last race.
And there's not a ton of speed in here is some voices who do
our speed, but it looks fast enough that he could out run
them early on and if He gets the right kind of trip, maybe who
got away, I don't know. But I think you were to look at
a possibly the recent rise. The only thing I look at here
that gives me pause is the last three wins were at a mile or
more and they were over two terms.
Does that give you pause at all? Going just one turn.
It does. Especially whenever I talk to
their connections and they say longer the better longer, the
better longer, the better. And if you look at this ppc's,
Runway traces that are very good at 7:00.
For a long, she's run races that are very good sprinting but he's
taken it to the next level. Ville going out to longer
distances. The 14 mile, of course, the
Laurel has the long stretch and maybe that'll help a horse that
has a lot of stamina like nimitz-class.
It's something to consider hello hot rods and interesting were
simply because he's got cooked on a speed, do last time out on
a very, very hot Pace who ran off and the pace might not be as
fast here, but that's a good point about nimitz-class.
And again, if you want to try to knock a favorite, you can find
anything and you'll find on somewhere else.
Obviously our nation, our parade, none of us.
Mentioned him. Is there a chance that he's the
one who jumps up here? And the funny thing is he's so
consistent is who shows up every time.
It seems like it's the board and is I think he's at the board in
his last eight starts, who won the Maryland million classic.
He might have been compromised by the lack of pace in the race
where nimitz-class was up close and he sat just off of it.
I think what he won, the Maryland million classic John
and I were thinking boy, this source is going to be very
important handicap horse in the local Division and it just
hasn't panned out. He's found one or two better and
all of his other races I won't be surprised.
He finds one better and I also wouldn't be surprised if Jamie
Nest wins this. So I'd say this too.
If you still believe he's burning up a lot of money in his
last few Strokes, think this could finally be the day with,
with all the money going on, Nimitz class how to get a decent
price player. So I guess we'll see.
So those, you know, John was not the one horse and two of those
three wins have been of course that Borel at the mile distance,
it seems like when he goes above the miles, when he's had
trouble. However, to those times, he
chose to go above were listen, stay.
Races as well. So we'll see if the if the class
jump up, bothers him, or the in the distances or the distance is
just right? Okay.
Do you have anything else that you?
Sure. I really actually enjoyed the
discussion. Okay, great.
Well, then we'll move on to race a fun facts but just no fun
Faith. Yeah, you know.
Fun fact. You died in a plane crash.
All right. The the point beyond the wires,
another mile race here and it is a hundred thousand dollars
raised for Phillies who are three years old.
So This is kind of the black-eyed, Susan prep here.
Yes, we're do. This is the don't say it.
The Weber City misc, right? Really.
We're still two months from that race.
Remember, we're middle of March, sure, but eventually it is, the
rebels not. All right.
All right, let's go. Pharaohs pick those new pearls
baby, girl, guile or whatever. Guile.
So is it okay? Alright, Dan, who do you like in
this race? Looking forward to either Cairo
sugar or lady Lowry, I think both one of those two horses is
going to fire Cairo sugar, you want to talk about a lottery
ticket, look at the price that they paid for this source and
sixty thousand dollars single to the pedigree.
This damn was in grade 1 Stakes Winner, spun sugar.
She was a really nice source. And I talked to the owners and
they said, I talk to the trainer earlier today and he said these
owners, they go to the sales. They try to find well bred
horses. That knee have a little problem
with the x-rays in the repository and they can work
their way through them. And that's exactly what happened
with Cairo sugar, especially a filly from this family for nine
thousand dollars. Now, she's a Stakes Winner,
she's made out a lot of things happen for last time, out
against New York red. So she threw a shoe in the
paddock. Lot of Phillies would freak out
at that point. Especially in experienced one.
She handled it like a pro then she went out there and she
pulled off an upset connection. Schoology is need to get to the
lead. I don't think she's getting to
the Because Brittany Russell saying the horse on the rail.
Pharaohs baby, gal is a need, the lead type and catch me if
you can type, if you will. So occurring sugars gonna have
to do it from off the pace. I think the pace will be fast
and leading Lowery's, The X Factor coming up from Turfway
Park, she's bread for dirt she's by munnings, the dams a
half-sister to Speights true when the Dwyer and is a very
good stallion. This is the family of dance.
Smartly the won, the Breeders Cup distaff.
She looks like a big strong Philly that will kick on in the
stretch and appreciate the extra distance.
Have we seen many because John hi.
Do you watch Turfway? Probably as much as I do.
We've seen a lot of success from Laurels shippers to Turfway this
year. Are we seeing success in the
other directions? We have many examples of that
you know, I don't pay as much attention as I like to put out
of way generally because it occurs I put in and early pick
for ticket and it gets knocked out by like six o'clock and I'm
like screw this and I move on. That being said, as denoted, I
think lady Larry is Going to have a great trip and I did
really like really both of her studs are.
Toph way, going stick and a half and a nice move by the back of
the pack on debut. Finished a solid second stock,
the paste from a very fast pace of should know last time out and
one going away. Both with prisoners figures in
that mid 80s range as denoted. I think both pharaohs baby guile
and Kayo sugar are going to go for the lead.
If both men boot each other out leaving, Larry is going to be
the positive note. NG to track go again.
He was named to ride in a police, the early edition of the
entries and I think it would be quite notable if you do come
over and ride all the think, happy clouds, number four is an
interesting long shot for Anthony fair.
And another bug chica both of whom started off this meet with
Incredible success and have still kept it up as we begin to
wind down the winter me, one of his second start of the year and
her first for the farrier bar, pretty handily.
Okay, he should be one move and one going away.
Albeit against softer Rivals, just missed in the last two
studs. One of them to tap and Josie who
came back to win the steaks at parks last week and is at
Aqueduct on on Saturday and another Stakes, then just missed
in a game effort. Last timeout should also run
three straight figures in the mid-80s a mile is is is a
question mark. She has not been this borrow and
and last time and the only time I'm trying seven.
Furlongs at Churchill Downs. Last fall.
She was not beaten. That being said, if she gets a
distance, she's going to be in the mix later.
Think I'm getting back to your point about Churchill shippers.
I've noticed that they do very well in Maryland.
Usually they're the horse is coming from Churchill Downs or
Keeneland that are claimed by top-notch, Maryland, Horsemen
and come in the competition at church like guesses just and
Keeneland, just much better than the Maryland.
These sources make a Turf way. I generally low the horses that
come from truth way. I don't think they're very Good.
But this source is just so lightly race that he/she could
be anything, got it. Yeah.
And like you mentioned the breeding makes sense.
Right? It just does.
And so these this is the time of year when it's a third start,
and the horses are still figuring it out.
And sometimes you have to look at that line as well.
I think cats at the timber is a wild card here.
The two and I can't quite figure this horse out because she goes
from, you know, first started Delaware nowhere to be found
wins. The second one comes to Laurel
nowhere to be found. When's the next one?
Is this an every other type or does she Just need to get beyond
the track at a place, get a race under her legs and that do that
again. I think, if I was playing a long
shot here at the two cats in the timber, the other Brittany
Russell would be my place and I think that's Russell is
thinking, I think she needs racing to get better.
She needs to obviously get a little bit faster, but she's so
light and raced, we see horses this time of the year, they're
inexperience jump up five, ten speed for your points every
single race her last race. She was beating my Believe by
Fair up the level time. She was beaten by pharaohs baby.
Girl was a race where pharaohs baby girl just went To the front
couldn't have had an easier trip, and you can already see
the cats. In the timber was compromised.
By the way, the race was run. And she came back and won her
neck starts. Oh, her confidence is Sky.
I she is the right running style for this race and rare.
For Burton Russell horse, you're going to get a price.
All right, well we're gonna move on to the Mana 16th private
terms hundred thousand dollar race and this is actually kind
of interesting race because the winners either move on to the
tessio of course pointing towards the previous or some
choose to go to the wood and maybe even like take a shot.
We got a couple Triple Crown nominated horses here in this
race. The horse private terms himself,
actually ran the 1988 Kentucky Derby lost a Winning Colors
Deming and eight other horses. But lots of good horses that
finished ninth of the Kentucky Derby, there are a lot of good
horses. Absolutely fantastic.
And this private terms one, the wood the Gotham the tests show
the General George a lot of really good races.
That's this versus this race is named after is, there you go?
So that's a fun fact. Fun fact, that was fun.
More fun, more funner, more funner.
All right, did you like fun? Dip as a kid, okay, just want to
know. I just want to know.
Yeah. Did I like fun?
Did you like when you were a child?
I mean, some people with a little too much.
I don't know too tart anyway, jumpy.
As a good pitching, the shutout. I know and this is an upset I
picked in the bracket because I hate Duke but his 15 nothing
right now. So all right.
Roberts. No, that's not.
This is not a fun fact for them. Fun fact.
You haven't scored in eight minutes to start this game.
All right, here it is. Okay, let's go.
Who do we like here in the private terms?
John, let's start with you. Well, this is a very, very tough
race. A lot of the attention I've seen
before this race has gone toward.
Can you make Peaks horse number? Six, Hayes strike 722 on the
morning line. He has been keeping some pretty
nice class lines were second in the street since last fall
behind to Phil's third in the Kentucky dragons Club mr.
Boyd it in his last two starts. Again, they're generally against
better horses that being said and he hasn't raced in almost
two months. Now, since mid-January when he
was well-being at To play Park. I don't think his figures are
that much better than those of the others.
And I think, because of the Kenny can Peak Factor, he is
going to be over bet. I think, coffee with Chris, one
of four Maryland threads in here, he's the big X Factor
because I've talked, I talked to John Salzman about him right
after he won the heft. And as I said on the previous
show, I kind of noticed that him like, do you think he's a to, to
enclose and he said, no, like maybe, He'll get a 12 Mile and I
was kind of blown out when he didn't nominate him for the
Triple Crown and then he won, I won turn mild when the miracle
would by a length and a quarter just missed his crew top there's
no speed figure look, pretty show begins, Prince of Jericho
who is not here. He's waiting for the tessio so
we know caught up with Chris can get a a longer distance.
I mean it's a sixteenth of a mile.
The outside pose may get caught wide on the pace so he might be
going. Against it, that being said he
found that he's he like this track.
He showed that he can fight on the lead if no, not while that
wide, but he can't fight and I think he'll at least have to be
considered in this spot. That being said, I ended up
picking one of the other Maryland threads that circling
the drain on top. I really liked his last.
Start around two tones, post level, I was awful Clinton goes
on President's Day. Yes, he was kind of supposed to
win that stowed but he didn't pull away pretty.
Nicely nice. Stepping stone.
For a second off. A green fly off when a are cool
talk to you figure. You shown good tactical speed
and I figure it called with Chris and feeling woozy, when
the others beat hoses and up tiring, he's going to be a great
though. And I like having with Chris, so
going to drain is topic are nominated and in terms of
Jericho does go to tessio. I do wonder if Brittany Russell
and the folks at Sycamore We're going to be inclined to perhaps
take a shot in the wood or in a blue glass and maybe it's a
Maryland with three bedrooms going, but don't put the cart
before the horse still has to win on Saturday and I think he
has a good chance to do that. Wood says you Dan I think John
made some really good points in that race.
It's funny that Hayes strike. I talked to Kenny Mack Beacon,
he's not convinced this source is non the dirt as an off the
Derby Trail. Yet he feels that if this horse
wins this race he's saying Bluegrass and he's one of of the
two horses and Triple Crown nominated.
He says there were two excuses for the last race and maybe this
is just trainer speak and he didn't like the Poly track at
all. Be the ship up from the
fairgrounds was a disaster in the source, didn't handle it at
all. And he said to me in hindsight,
we should have scratched the horse, his prior race is on,
dirt are good. He's going to have to obviously
step it up here in this race. You're looking who wants the
distance? He's one of the horses in the
race that once the distance John mentioned coffee with Chris, the
distance is a big question mark for him talk The John Salzman
this morning, he was very unhappy about this Source
picking up six pounds and he's even more unhappy about this
Source. Breaking from the far outside
post because Laurel Park, of course, has these wonderful
nooks and crannies. The second one, the second wire
going on. One turn Mile with that
interminable stretch and then Milam is 16th races.
You start right on the turn. So worth is breaking from the
far outside had a terrible, terrible disadvantage.
The source is going to have to be used to get position.
I think circling the drain is a very logical Contender at 12:54.
Now it's interesting that Brittany Russell's putting
blinkers on off of a win, if it ain't broke, usually, don't fix
it. But if you watch the stretch run
of that last race, he's one of the five and it looks like he's
going to draw away and went by 10.
And I just think he lost focus and started playing around on
the lead. And I think the blinkers on are
going to kind of get him to focus at the prices on the
morning line. I think he's the value but there
are other horses in your obviously horses, like register.
And how great is Nate. We have even talked about them
yet and they can obviously win. Yeah, I think how great it is.
Is going to end up on top for me, the four horse here and they
try them in the in the in the Gotham and it's just too much.
It doesn't like the surface whatever it is.
I don't hold it against horses. When they don't like muddy
surfaces on Long Island. It doesn't seem to be something
that all horses can handle and so I guess that's the one, they
dumped their Riders and run away, that's also not good and
so kind of suck, not a fun. Fact, not a fuckin asshole.
I'm getting the hang of it now. Yeah, I'm trying to find out.
Yeah, so the I think I would love to draw a line through
races and this is business. What stinks is?
He's not really second off a layoff, right?
I didn't really get a good run in that day and so you know I
would have preferred he not Buck the jockey there and finish
fifth or whatever it is in that race and it legitimate way.
But he is 444. Otherwise and so I'm interested
to see him back. Hopefully with more normal
conditions, he'll be able to handle it.
I think the four hole is very desirable because of all the
things much more desirable in the two hole or the gate in this
camp. Okay.
All right. Just I always go there.
I will always go there, speed figures.
But in his case at least, it's a progressive, speed figure, it's
gotten better every time that he's drum, you know?
And and, and also this tube out about registered because at at
Aqueduct, any Sterling has as well track transection on our
side. We possible possible biases, and
and I went back and look at the track trends for that day and he
said, Attract might have been we all face on that day.
I'll have seen what evidence but he said it could have been a
real bias and and Barrister that day battle for the lead on the
rail. So it's possible at the track
how to mount that day and I'm not so sure that he'll get to
the rail and the lead here. Now, obviously, a track buyers.
Could develop here again, obviously feeling was, you could
not go for the front and he could get get really good trip
but but But I would take that last race with a little bit of a
grain of salt because of that. Yeah, sure, no.
But you did seem to like the extra distance, for example,
right? And so, we're talking about even
more distance in this one. So, I think he's absolutely a
play. I'll I did land on how great is
made on top. I think, circling the drain
isn't include. I do worry about the a hole with
coffee with Chris because that horse does like to come out of
the game to be part of the early action and so it'll be
interesting to see over especially over two turns.
There's something about everything that John said
carrying the extra six pounds to it's just there's a lot too.
Go against how great excuse me home coffee with Chris, hear
that? The list gets pretty long, sure.
Yeah. Yeah, you talked me out of it.
Yeah. Fun fact, he's on the outside
post. And by the way, I don't see
everything that comes in my brain, by the way, like earlier.
Dan says, something about, looking at a horse's peepees and
I was like, every time I do that, I feel inadequate.
So yeah, I don't remember saying that, but he did say that.
Going to talk about the last race, but the two of you can
because we have people listening thousand dollar claimer, just
I'm protesting this race. However, I know we have people
that listen to the show, that would like to hear about the
last race. Dan, there are two courses that
are shorter than two to one in this race.
Are they the favorites here? Oh, they're the horses to be no,
doubt Backstreet Affairs. A horse that has a good amount
of speeds coming off of a game effort.
Last timeout, just a very logical horse on paper.
May be queen of class will be a slightly.
We better price off of the claim.
I'm not going to be upset that they claim this worse for
something like 16 or now dropping it in for 10 or 12 5.
And that doesn't bother me because they're actually
stepping up in class from a non-winners, a to life to
announce winners of three life. So to me, it's actually a
logical move. If you watch the sources last
race, just cruising in behind horses, on the turn.
Got a perfect rail. Seem altered course showed a lot
of agility got up despite drifting out late for the horses
to beat if you want. A little bit of a Nutty price
Source if you're saying okay, well I've singled a couple of
chalks early on, I need a price, try diamonds and denim breaking
from the inside post with an apprentice Rider.
So she gets a little bit of weight from some of these others
stretching out off Charlestown race and when she was rallying
late, this is the worse. It's going to show.
Stretch out speed here. All right, John you have do you
have any horses here? I think that back straight
Affairs, way above queen of class.
Just like, if anybody okay, I just agree.
I like putting a class quite a bit in here.
I like that. She's coming off a win, in a,
thumbs up, to it, in cheaper, places like this, I always
leaned toward hoses who don't have too many losses or any
losses at at this level. In this case, queen of class has
greatly pissed food. I like Backstreet Affair and
diamond and denim could go at each other on the lead and set
it up nicely for clean and class to get the job done.
And my kind of cruising along shine here is number 5, note,
interrupt is 22 1 on the morning line for another new Apprentice
jockey Luis. Herrera Junior him and accept
concepción both for the weekends, both have been
running. Well, since joining a colony in
mid-February, this one holds their heads decently paced
figures Renee A solid for the level business, big you of 68,
last time, our takes a bit of a drop in class.
Think she could suck up for the trifecta. 2437 Lifetime, on that
horse. They keep on trying, man.
It's not true. I'm sure we get the news that
they had a radiant fellow isn't going to be right, are we?
So do we have? I'm so sad class right now.
Do you think it's a little muddled Forte right now, is the
far in a way, The Head and Shoulders?
The class of this field? I the worry was okay, was he
going to progress from 2 to 3 and it really very well.
In the fountain of youth, he deserves to be the favorite
practical. It'll move in Southern
California. Looks like you've worked with a
lot of potential. He's got great trips in his last
few races, and other than that, it's completely wide open in my
opinion. Instant coffee as a horse, that
hasn't gotten a lot of press because he has to run fast
braces, but all he seems to do is win down at the fairground.
So I'll keep an eye on him. I wish it was a little bit more.
Interesting up top. I wish there was a little bit
more competition up time for right now.
It's sport a and looks like he said in the Bluegrass.
Do you think instant coffee? I mean barring.
Rabbit. Leo with a rabbit.
Get in the race. You think it's a coffee style
can win the Derby and a normal year.
If he gets the right trip with with him, he's the kind of horse
and any closer in the 20 horse field.
It's all about getting the right pace set up which usually do
when the Derby, but you also need to hit all the right holes,
like Sunny Leone did last year with Rich strike closures, are
always going to be up against it, but that being said, if you
have a speed or she could get burned out, the Derby is the
derby going into the first turn. You pretty much know where you
are. Are and what you got because
you're either going to get smashed into the rail or going
to have a clear run? Yeah, yeah.
I mean I think that's the thing. There's something someone's got
to set a pace for a closer to come in and we'll see if that's
going to happen or not agree about Forte.
John well as I mentioned at the top of the show thinking about
Adobe Trail gives me a lot of address so I'm hoping the Forte
is runs off the screen and makes you feel better.
And as Dan mentioned found my youth was very impressive.
Yes. With that kind of true.
Rip, you probably should have one else.
There would be a problem but he did what he had to do.
He looked very impressive at two and if he wins Bluegrass like he
is opposed to he could be a biggest.
Normal time to be favorite since Point, get it.
Yeah, it's interesting. And I think once in a while
horses, run races, like that the Fountain of Youth, and we say,
oh, we got the perfect trip. Sometimes they make their own
trip to Hawaii. Like, that's a thing.
Like he could be, I'm not that good.
Hey, you know what? I know the horse isn't really
injured or anything right now, but he's just not training,
right? There's something off a little
bit. Let's protect your investment.
Let's sit out the Kentucky Derby.
By the way, we're going to let the Maryland guys, go, we're
going to talk a little bit about Lon we're going.
About the Whitmore Stakes. Dan, do you remember where
Whitmore finished in the Kentucky?
You know, he knows this. He knows this.
Come on their little bit more finishing, the Kentucky Derby.
I finished dead last. That's right.
John blast, right? And the rest is history.
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I've talked to Marty McGee and an element in the last week and
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celebrities. And did you have a fun day
today? By the way, out of curiosity,
like, hello is it bad day? I've not had a good day.
You know why he has not have a bad day, talk about.
Now, I had heard Dan asked you today, if you have a good
computer, What are you doing? And I just wanted to, I know you
are Lulu, has not had a good day today because he's had a little
bit of computer trouble, a little, I got the blue screen, I
had to drop my computer, a blue screen blue screen of death.
You typically would be that little geek when you say.
I'm not a geek, I'm sorry, I got you.
All right, so at the end of the day, then what kind of computer
did you have? I do yoga.
How old is it though? It's perfect for Louise usage
close today. He sits on the bed with his wife
and you know, they flip it and then they can blow away a OE e.
That's why it's called the yoga wear yoga pants.
Yeah, your wife. People marker on sheet that I
had because my dear. Oh man.
That was. That was worth it.
It was worth it. All right, let's just does mr.
Zack have our race replays, ready to go.
Oh, there it is. Cabbage rice.
When in the Tampa Bay Derby, let's take a look at Classic
Car. Wash starting to stoke, the
fires from forth a length and a half more back to show sturken
tap at rice. Is trying to get going with
Mikey, bananas on the outside, they're both on the move, but
they're both very wide as they come to the top of the stretch,
a scramble here, dreaming of coated on the outside.
Prairie Hawk Classic Car Wash continues to make up ground down
the center of the track. Here comes that big gray tap and
Trace right down the outside. Tap, it tries trying to mow down
Classic Car Wash. Here Comes tap It tries to tap
it tries going to go on to win the Tampa Bay Derby Classic his
love life. Cabbage rice, when's the Tampa
Bay Derby now. Louis the this horse the of
course gets the win, but this Rod was heavily criticized, like
it or the trip by the horse, was heavily criticized people
feeling the horse showed some immaturity that he's not ready
to run. All the stars know at the end of
the day he got the job. It got the job done.
What do you take from this? I don't know.
That's not what I'm doing, but that would justify look like a
March, okay? Except that he was out front,
and he was exacted back and forth and Anita.
No, I don't do that much. That's a It's an amateur thing
to do right now, okay, that isn't a common.
I do want to say that after I'm not saying it was not common.
I'm just saying, you know, was all over Twitter that, you know.
Yeah, I'm no longer producer Zach.
I am Zaki bananas Zaki, bananas. All right, like it tablet rice
is looking like, he is going to go to the Blue Grass Stakes,
which is spelled as two separate words, which I don't know,
that's the way I would do it or not.
But Bluegrass Stakes is One word, my estimation that's
Bluegrass Stakes with blue and grass should be one word
continue. Okay.
What do you appreciate your comment?
Do you think that tablet rice is a legit contain Contender or
Pretender at this point? Because I think this is a great,
get to the gate or to win the Derby.
Oh, I think he's gonna get to the gate obviously, but to win
not a contender Pretenders. Again, we keep seeing these
horse, unless we're going to 16 closers in this Creek and field,
which it feels like yep. The problem is we've got to that
can be on front and are good but that's a but it Yeah, and I
don't think and they can stay out front.
Right? And eventually in the center
point races were going to get second or third place forces
that went out front and then fade, right?
And they're so the stalkers are going to have to be to run at
and then the clothes aren't gonna have enough time.
So this is going to be weird. This is a good show for us to
just talk about where the derby field is right now because we
are in this, like, little weird Lowell.
Yeah. Well, kind of awesome has
Louisiana Derby and two other races, that just don't matter.
I won't be here next week, though.
So, that's why. It's awesome.
Yeah, Mike won't be here. All right, so tap at Rice,
getting the win, going towards the Bluegrass, so whatever.
All right, that's what we got out of that.
So let's then talk about the the races out at Oaklawn are
handicapping segment brought to you by Green Sheet racing.
And here we go. So we're going to start with a.
We're going to do, are we going to give the The, what are you
Givin out in the sheet this week but actually my sequence is that
Laurel? Okay.
Yeah not. So do you want to talk about
this allowance? Optional clamoring.
That's on the show. She like, okay, let's go
straight to the bit more but I do.
I do want to point out at Oaklawn, all of the, take out
rates are high, except for the pic 50, so the pig files
playable as far as take out rate, okay, the sequence to me
is Muddy and I don't want to give out like $248 tickets or
280, Belichick. Okay.
All right, well then we'll go straight think that's what are
smoking horse in the sheet is for.
Yeah, we mentioned Whitmore and I think, you know, again
Whitmore was a horse that did finish dead last in the derby.
But this is one of those things where we talk about these three
year, olds kind of go on this trip account Rail and then they
just kind of figure out what like really where they're
supposed to go. And, of course, Whitmore was
this amazing Sprinter, had an amazing career won the Breeders
Cup at a race. We were at the Breeders Cup of
that. He won.
It was the Keeneland. Yeah, which is like, which was
awesome. I thought it was great because,
I mean, both break us up in it. Because of the wind because we
could know because we could walk around.
Oh yeah. Kind of like having our little
tailgate tent, though. Honestly wouldn't have to sit on
the edges of it to make sure that's true.
That is true. Kicking you off the ground.
Yeah. You're the same the same way.
Holy cow. That's Neil.
Aspersion right. There is a queer.
It's that where is the little screen things?
Because I want to be clear that, oh, that can't hear you.
I was the one. Yeah.
And to. All right, so this is, this is a
great three Sprint, six, furlongs in the dirt for four
year olds and up, two hundred thousand our race.
Who do we like him Whitmore? A lot of people.
All right, and I think there are three pretty likely winners.
There's a horse named after you hear spankster, but Tejano
twisters in this race. Last four races has been really
good either first, or second last four times out all the
buyers in the 90s. Really, really consistent.
Horse keeps Lasix here as run with 124 and one last time out,
lost a Gunite. In the King Cotton really race
against race but it was in the slot, God is not going to be wet
this weekend in a in Hot Springs and so we'll be good to go that
way 347 lifetime. To the distance has never missed
the board of the distance. Has a 99 speed figure at the
distance. And so this horse to me who's 14
to that other race was the second place finish behind
gunite. So to me, not holding it against
Tejano, twist the obvious favorite here to me, Chris
Hartman and Francisca arietta. The cool thing here.
I think this would be Chris Hartman's first grade Stakes
with oh, so good luck. Chris, I actually those kinds of
things like actually do root for in In horse racing, I do want to
say there is a mic Gandalf oh, angle to this race.
There's a horse named after Star Wars character.
Francisco area is writing to to Tejano twist.
He wrote edge to edge in his last two wins.
He also wrote A ha. No, twisting his last two races.
Oh Auntie ha no twists and off of Edge Edge edge to edge for
Chris Hartman. So he's got two in here.
He has the only two back-to-back 100 buyers in this race.
He's the 4 horse. Here comes in 3, 4 10 lifetime
at Oaklawn 5 for 18 at the distance. 5 year old horse still
intact, son of competitive. Veg, they buried for five grand,
he's made over three hundred thirty seven thousand dollars.
Flash, of Mischief on the outside is an interesting horse
because he's in every other type in.
This is the every other random that I can cotton didn't win
before. That one, the ring bell is a
black type in, in December for that.
Ran a king Keeneland and something called the Breeders
Cup Sprint. That's a great one race.
The breeze has Sprint has a that they run in the fall.
Oh, I like that. All right, nice.
Yeah, before that. One listed six before that.
And in 16:24 that want to race at the actual climate level.
So it's just me and every other subjects, which this race is
every other. So, it's me 346 lat lights.
I'm at the distance. Guess what?
That's because he's in every other type, I think he's the
forced to play here. 72 for, I'm trying to remember what this
race was called before it was called the Whitmore Stakes, but
Whitmore won this race three times and came in second, once
so Whitmore. Also, 10 years old, I'm actually
792. And for sorry, my paper right
now. So I have to.
Yeah, where's your computer? It combines in this race and I
just wanted to say Cogburn. Hey, Louis, do you think era
Zach you think Louis can actually break skin with that
with that highlighter? Like can he puncture my skin
with the highlighter? If I keep on pushing his
buttons? Is that what it is?
All right, no one's mentioned. Do you know why?
Why why? Because this show is beautiful
this jacket and the show is already ridiculous.
So anything that we do know one surprise, okay, they know what
they're getting into. Like, I can't help it shows up
every month. I have no idea why I think he
likes us. He's a coastal leave.
He should be maybe. All right.
Racing on the grade 3, Essex handicap and you know that
you're really excited about this.
It's miles 60 in the dirt and we've got some really good names
of people are going to recognize in this race.
Half a million dollars here. So it would be like, Like in
this one, lots of horses, people are going to recognize some of
Prospectors and he Rated R Superstar call me fast classic
Causeway, of course, last year they won winner.
The classic Causeway, though, was the last time you ran on
dirt. So it's been a while, right?
This he was supposed to run in Tampa, on the Tampa Bay to
record, they scratched out to run in this race, okay?
So, whatever that's worth his last run on dirt, was actually
back on June 25th in the Ohio Derby, which he won.
Yep. So, on faster.
He's 24/7. Lifetime, on what dirty One for
one then he moved to Turf anyone.
A grade one in the Belmont. Yeah, I remember that frankly
probably his best ride last year.
He timed it so well Necker Islands in this race.
Call me fast as in this race for City or oh Tawny Port Keystone
field. Last Samurai I landed on Last
Samurai on top of your even though he's out on the outside
9797 105 most recent and that 105 wasn't Oaklawn over this
course at what Madam I love 16. Go to trust that that form is
still there. Wait, Lucas, man, whatever's
going on right now. I mean, just get out of the way.
I'm a fan, I think he's got it going and then I think you do
have to look at for City or old. Who's coming out of the
Louisiana, great three spread coxster shipping them up.
Finish third, cut by half a length, behind a happy American,
all happy. Americans tuned in his last two.
Races is when a great three and then winning listed States
before that. And so I think he's running
really well. And I think Force, if you oral
should show up with a good race as well, I don't know what to do
with Vittorio. Who's in this race, ran 100.
Your last time is out of the bill Mount Barn.
We've watched film, on course, have a really great month at
Gulfstream Park. S office layout for Belmont is a
massive, number 23 percent, he wins. 26% of is great at stake.
So it's not like he puts horses in bad spots.
I just, I don't know what to make of this horse because he's
coming out of the optional claimer look.
So sometimes and you know this sometimes that first step into
the grated company for some reason for horses.
It's just too much so little bit.
Yeah. It's a big step so much.
I'm guessing that's what happens here.
It's a little bit too much from our team girl.
Seeing the connections there, you know, my motto for their
last six, by the way. And so maybe, you know, I mean
frankly a half million dollar race.
You know, if you're getting I mean if you're gonna check it
second or third place I mean it's and I still good.
Yeah, so I see good. Then you with your great steaks
placed, right? And hit the board there with
Vittorio distilling in text on a ghost zapper and so I think
they're just trying to get him on the board.
So I would go 10 and 7 here. I think the favorites are the
likeliest. I am interested to see Tawny
Port here because we both know, That's a horse with a ton of
ability. Sure.
A ton of ability but has not put it together in the way that we
thought 4410 lifetime hasn't won since the Ohio Derby.
Actually that race that we mentioned that closet causal
variance is all you be classified, okay?
Sorry. Yeah.
And God will last, when it's been a while, it's been a while.
That's it, that's an understandable Mistake by the
way. Yeah, yeah.
I got you. But so, I mean, I know who's
actually having a very good meet at Oaklawn.
I'm happy for him because he stayed at turquoise last year,
decided to go to Arkansas this year and that's a big if people
don't know. Raphael was out in California
for years, 13 time riding titles in Southern California, and
decided to move to Kentucky. So, his family could have a
single spot on the east side of Louisville here and was riding
it. Ellis was writing a church or
was riding at Keeneland, was riding a Turf way, just to keep
his family here and made the decision to make the jump to Oak
Lawn and all he's done. When it's 17 percent.
And I mean, he said in the board at an unbelievable rate. 240
runs 48 wins 54 places and 35 shows, get it done, he's getting
it on, he's getting, he's picking up excuse me.
That is not the right guy. Huh?
Rafa still Henderson 3432. Which if you had your computer,
you'd be able to get all this stuff, right?
All right. He's having an incredible me.
He's in the board like crazy and so I'm happy for off.
I was a good guy became a jockey Zach because he was living in
Peru. He was on his way to basketball
camp. And his dad got lost, and they
ended up at the track and they said, hey, you're short.
You want to be a jockey legit, legit conversation.
We had, that's his story was, we had fully and that's from his
mouth. Like, we had that conversation,
you know, that his mother who was stuck in the United States
because we talked about eating, we talked about eating guinea
pigs, right about that. I don't know.
Maybe I need a guinea pig, I guess I know how he feels Louis
tried to sell me off to a horse racing Barn, when we were there
for the Derby, okay, it's like Zack is short.
He could be a jockey The Whitmore was the hot springs,
purse until 1986, then it was the hot spring Stakes until
2021. Would you like to get in some
hot springs? Would you're getting hot
springs? I have that would like it
Springs. Yeah, the worth.
It's amazing. Oh yeah, I want those, we gotta
go. We gotta go to hot springs and
getting the hot springs. Let's let's do it.
I'm all about it. You know, Oliver now we get it.
My second favorite Jean in Los Angeles times.
When I walked in, you were wondering what I was doing
because I was on the phone. Yes, I'm very very early on the
phone. I wouldn't say rarely, but okay,
really lies always on the phone. Yeah, yeah, you're on the phone
quite a bit and it was from horse racing Nation.
I like rhonchi called the check in on me, one of the call and
check on you what he doesn't check on me.
He's got my number. Ron, I'm doing okay.
I guess there's I guess he knows I'm stable.
So I found out John found a new hotel because they demolish the
one who used to stay at. So I found out some interesting
news on that, by the way. Okay.
So sure. But if you're listening, they're
not getting rid of the El Nopal. It is actually going to be Del
Nepal that you love so much is going to be in the new
construction bill that they're putting out there so you can you
might want to stay at Candlewood Suites and then you know head
over to the all the ball. Well, local fact, That actually,
I talked to the lead engineer on the project of that.
So it's going to be an engineer on the El Nopal is going to have
its going to stay. Yeah, I don't know.
The best food we had in the Louisville Lexington area was
that little bit little place and wonders for sound so good back
alley, it's so good. And as a family restaurant,
like, it was like the son the daughter, And I said it was
something racist that they didn't take races so I
appreciate it. So I was like, bring me the
salsa that you don't start to white people and they brought it
that's all. Please.
Because they wouldn't do it. Otherwise, they would just, they
would, they would white cloth here your food.
I mean, they just broke and so, no, I'm go ahead.
The server said to us and I quote, are you sure the two of
you like spicy things? It doesn't seem like it would be
culturally what you would want. Have you have you?
You just had to, you had to make sure that they get what they
are. Like no no, I want to blow my
nose, every bite that. I have this Thursday.
Have you ever seen the scene and said lasso when he with the
Indian food it's kind of like that.
A good? Yes, I make it.
Oh my God, man. It is the I'm not you might not
like it, I don't know, but to me is the greatest sick and this is
not an overstatement. The greatest sitcoms ever made,
I've watched in early Simpsons both, I'm not a big Simpsons fan
of Seinfeld It's better than cheers.
Okay, so I will say this as someone who loves soccer.
Yeah, right. Which I don't soccer his whole
life, I understand, but I'm talking about me, Ted lasso,
scratches an itch that I didn't know, I had for my whole life.
Okay. Okay.
That being said, I think Lois, you would find it funny but you
would also be like I get it for other people, I don't get why it
needs to be this big. It's like I get that some people
will find this funny built but very very fair.
There been no pulp it'd be like an a-minus show for me but
instead to be my the show because everyone talks, when I
think for me to, you know, the from the coaches aspect since
you're being the coach and there's so much of the like the
coach wisdom there and there and they actually tackle some pretty
big issues, especially when it comes to mental health.
Apple TV is killing it with the mental-health angle on these
shows with shrinking is amazing as well.
Oh yeah. So that show.
I think Louis would love. Yeah.
If you hadn't seen drinking taking Julie just drinking
Harrison Ford. I mean, everyone's I think
everybody does not help this. She's Harrison Ford plays you
but 75 and a psychologist by the way.
And it could be as good of a role as Harrison Ford's ever
played. I mean, I think he is masterful
and that role and actually what's his name?
Jason Jason No, seagull seagull plays me if I was a psychologist
working for you, so it's a, it's, it's a, it's, they're
killing it. They haven't seen the first
episode of season 3 yet, because my wife wants to watch it with
me and we just haven't, like had the chance to.
You're trying to get us platformed on Apple TV.
Plus, I would love to be on a TV.
Plus, I'm an apple tea, unless I'm just ready for Zach to
finally getting out on acid. Yeah, it's not bad.
And then and they don't put out the quantity of content as these
other places do. But they're usually it's pretty
quality stuff so I don't know. Yes.
That they put a lot of quantity. It's not like Netflix, that kind
of quantity that's Necklace. Netflix has a back catalog.
Like give it, give it two more years and I'm betting they'll
have just as much content as Netflix with also.
Apple TV is never going to be International.
We buy these shows up from India and China and stuff like that
and get them translated into English.
To put them on our platform. Apple TV is always going to be a
boutique. You know, where they make their
own stuff. And then, of course, you've
heard me say before, but the Netflix comedy, that you would
really like his Dairy girls. If you ever get a chance to
watch that, Dairy Girls is really, really, really funny.
I says to myself. Calm.
All right, I know Louis would get it.
I don't know if he would step aside three, are you kidding me
with the Catholic schoolgirl angle, you know, that he get, he
would be like this is great, it's hilarious.
I'm never going to watch another episode Zack.
I'm sorry, I love how they They treat the male cousin.
Yes, it is. James is amazing.
Yeah. All right, that's enough.
We were under an hour and so we are talking of our markets.
Kenny Smith Rock in the turtleneck.
I don't know. Do you know do you like the
turtleneck and jacket look and do whatever he wants?
Because he's what I like that. Kenny Smith is wearing a
turtleneck with the jacket and Berkeley has.
Got the, I'm a banker, some fest going on, or Or Barclays lost
weight. Man.
It's like a defense attorney. He does look like a difference
between I was terrible. I will tell you what if Charles
Barkley got a guest spot on Law & Order as an attorney with iced
tea, it would be phenomenal. It's must must watch TV.
All right, we're out of here. Yeah, pay the tab.
Get out of here. You've this has been a weird
episode of horse. And happy hours.
Closing time. Open all the doors.