Jason Beem | Pasco, Gasparilla, & Wayward Lass

All right, welcome in boys and girls, men and women.

It is a January 9th edition of the Horse Racing Happy Hour.

Hanging out with Jason Beam. I'm Louis Rabo in front of my

fireplace in Louisville, KY because it is a a solid 18°

outside. It was a solid 8 when I took my

kids to school this morning. But I understand the real

suffering is happening in Florida, Jason.

And so I wanted to extend my condolences to a a place with a

40° temperatures. It's got to be brutal down

there. Yeah, we're up to like 52.

I think we're we're going to be all right here.

But it it's, it's funny, I told you before, I told you before we

came on air. I'll hear more complaints about

the weather this week than you will with the foot of snow you

guys are dealing with. No, that's exactly right.

We're gonna talk to Jason ahead of a trio of stakes in Tampa.

Something we'd love to do on this show, Jason, is get to know

people around the country and their their road to their

derbies, right? So the road to the the Tampa Bay

Derby with the Pasco and all of that.

And of course, the Sam F Davis. Talk about those as we go along.

But as it is January, I haven't been picking people's brains

about their favorite things from 2024, their horse of the year,

those kinds of things. I thought we could start the

conversation that way. Of course, you can catch Jason

on, if not North America's most popular horse racing podcast.

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there. The horse of the year has seemed

to very quickly move to hey, I'm totally good with with Torpedo

Anna winning it. And even though she ran against

three-year old Phillies for most of the year, I'm an Eclipse

voter. So I spent, you know, a fair

amount of time thinking about these things.

Jason. And I agree with that sentiment,

by the way. I think the totality of the

award, what she brought to the sport, the way that the Mcpeek

folks handled her availability, making her, you know, available

to folks to at both, you know, Clark Day here, for example, at

Churchill Downs down the street from me or, you know, up at

Saratoga all summer. Where did you follow the horse

of the year? And do you do you buy these

arguments for for Thorpe and? I I'm not a voter, I created my

own award show 'cause they would let me Eclipse awards so.

But I've never been a real big Eclipse person.

It's just it's such it's so out of my realm of racing.

Like I've always been in at smaller tracks and I'm at tracks

now where we'll get the occasional Eclipse Award winner

to show up. But you know, I don't know.

It's just I've never felt a real strong connection to it and up

being from out West to like we just we were never involved with

it. But I will say that like it

seems that there's a little bit, if you watch the NFL, they

almost always give the MVP to to the quarterback, right?

Running back guys running for 2000 yards.

They don't even consider them. And I think that we're falling

into that trap a little bit in racing where if you're you're

either 3 year old male or older male distance horse that that

that that's who can get an Eclipse award unless you do

something crazy. And I know Ed had his rule that

he was saying about how you have to beat males and he was getting

into the semantics of finishing ahead and he was being Ed, which

I like about Ed, but I don't know, I, I just feel like if, if

someone is super dominant in their division, they should,

they should definitely receive significant, you know, chances

at the horse of the year. And I suppose she has right.

Like she's, she's up for it. So I would probably go there.

I think, I think cause to me she's the one I'm going to

remember from this year. And I know that's not the

criteria for the award, but like in 10 years, if you ask me about

2024 racing, I'll probably remember Thorpeno Anna.

I'll be like, Oh yeah, Sierra Leone with the classic.

You know, right, right. Right.

Yeah, Yeah, I think that's probably correct.

And so we'll move away then from the Eclipse Award votes here and

just sort of ask you personal stuff.

Was there a favorite race either that you saw on television, you

watched, you got to call maybe that you attended in person?

I have defaulted to the easiest thing in the world.

We're very lucky We have a table with this show every year at the

Kentucky Derby. The Derby was the best race I've

ever been to. Jason.

Just the crowd reaction, the finish, all the things.

What was on on the line for it was it's the greatest horse race

I've ever attended. It's not very difficult for me

to come up with that for 2024. How about for Jason Beam?

No, that that it was a great Derby this year.

And it's funny 'cause it looked over at the 16th pole, right?

Like I thought the winner was home.

But for for me, my favorite race in the country is the long acres

Mile. And it's it's purely nostalgic

and from growing up. But and that's where I hope for

and it was a really good addition this year.

Like the the winner, five star general, like got up in the last

jump and Grant Forrester, who won it is a Louisville guy, but

he's from the northwest. And so he he he loves and knows

that race And and so nationally, I think the Travers of the Derby

were probably the two my two favorites.

The Travers. There's this great moment where

I thought fierceness had the race one.

And then you see torpedo and like make this one last surge

and Frank MI Aramati's voice like you could hear it change

with this like, oh crap, this might happen.

And he's like she's surging and like that.

Those little moments are like what I look for in this game.

So, you know, as a track announcer then, and I, I love

you bringing up that, that little nuance in, in Frank's

voice, right where it really is. Oh cripe, she might get there

kind of moment, right? Which is such a beautiful thing

for all of us watching, not just the guy calling the race,

Travis's call getting the 123 in the Derby.

Can you kind of tell people how difficult that is?

Because look, I know you probably haven't called a 20

horse field at some point in your career, but you've almost

certainly called the dozen horses and that's difficult

enough, Is it? We've got. 14 there you go.

If you're a Tony Kalo or whatever, you're a turf where

you're calling 12 every race or whatever.

But when you get a guy like, you know, finish like that and and

Travis nails the 123, how hard is that?

Well, it the big thing is it depends where your booth is and

a lot of people aren't aware of that 'cause there's a lot, most

tracks you're not on the wire because photo finish has to be

on the wire or, or the camera has to be on the wire, whatever.

So we're usually not an afterthought, but we're usually

one way or the other. At Tampa, I'm past the finish

line by like 30 or 40 feet. And so on dirt, it's a little

easier to call the photos 'cause they're close to me and I'm

pretty low. But on turf, when they're the my

first day there, like the first turf race I called at Tampa, I

thought this horse won by like a long neck, maybe 1/2 length.

The photo comes up and it was like half an inch.

And so I have you have to kind of learn your angles.

My first job at River Downs, it was dead center on we were the

second floor of the press box. So we're above.

I called every photo for three years because it was it was so

easy to do. But it, you know, Travis's

Travis is, you know, I mean, he's he's if not one of the best

going right now. And and you know, he's he's he's

got a little bit of ice water in his veins.

I feel like because I would be so nervous in a spot like that

just to talk, let alone call it as as well as he does.

I I thought it was his best Derby call, But you know, the

race in a lot of cases makes the call, right?

If it's just somebody pulls away at the top of the stretch, you

can try to make it as big as you want, But you know, I mean, you

know, but sometimes there's just a, a comfortable win and but no,

Travis, he's, he's the man. Lots, lots of love for him.

Yeah, even in, you know, the Justify year where he wins by

open lengths, it's the all rise to Justify.

He's always got something ready. Right.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.

You got to have your, you got to have your, your line.

It's funny, Robert Geller, who does Woodbine, always talks

about how he never has lines prepared and stuff like that.

I I go 5050. Sometimes I will, sometimes I

won't. But you have to 'cause I feel

like when you have the lines print, you're thinking about it

too much instead of just calling the race.

Yeah, that, that makes sense to me.

I I got to it's interesting you bring up Grant Forster.

I got to interview him over the summer.

I set up at that picnic table on the backside of Churchill Downs

near the shoot where they go in on the mile shoot there.

And Dale Romans rolled over on his golf cart and with a cigar

and talked to me for 15 minutes. And then I got to interview

Grant and he talked about that, that mile, the the long anchor

smile. And it was ahead of the Indiana

Derby and he was, you know, doing, gosh, I forget her name

now, Chatelle. And who ended up winning.

Thank you. Tosss up winning the Indiana

Derby and and he talked about just the their being at a

smaller track on their biggest day, how cool that experience

is. And I've seen you at the Indiana

Derby before, back when it was back when the cool kids went on

Wednesday, you know what I mean? It's so like it's it's own but

but just being at those tracks on their biggest days, it's

always really fun. I get to go to the Indiana Derby

just because it's a 2 hour drive from here, but for sure just

really fun to be at those tracks for those big days.

I, I went with Scott Shapiro that year when I went to the

Indiana Derby. And I remember we took like we

went and got lunch before we went.

And so we kind of took a little bit of a back way through and

the GPS said that we were 4 minutes from a racetrack and

there was nothing but corn fields and shap and shap, you

know, he never leaves Louisville.

So he was, this was all a new experience for him.

He goes, there's no way there's a race track out here I go, I

promise. We took one, we took one turn

and then it, it, it popped right up.

But yeah, no, they, yeah, they, I, I've been going.

It's funny. I when I worked at River Downs,

we used to go over when it was Indiana Downs and it was before

the casino and it was such a nice clean facility.

And obviously it's grown a lot over the years, both in, in size

and profile and always, always kind of enjoyed it over there.

I have John Dooley, I know, and one of my friends is one of the

stewards there. And so it's I, I, I, I follow a

fair bit of a shoe as we come, we call it.

Yeah, fair little Dooley, a little racing Rachel.

They got a little bit of everything up there outside of

Indianapolis. You know, I've been asking

everyone sort of their most disappointing moment of 2024 and

mine is like a three parter essentially.

You know, a Dare Manor runs and then she can't run on the

California Crown, so she's out idiomatic has to retire right

before the Distaffs. We missed that three-way sort of

battle between the Dare Manor idiomatic and and torpedo Anna

and the Distaff. That was the disappointment last

year for me. Jason, did you have a different

one by chance? Oh mine is purely selfish when

the entire when the entire East Coast tote system went down 25

minutes before our biggest race of the.

Yes, yes it did. That was not even self.

That's not even selfish, Jason. It's a bad moment.

Oh, man, it was that was one of the stewards came in the Florida

Oaks was run, which is a turf race, even though it's the

Suncoast is dirt. But I guess we'll talk about

that. But the source come in.

They said, hey, you know, tote delay be just a second.

They come in like once every two or three weeks and this just

happens. Sometimes there's some delay in

the system. You know, we we all know racist

technology is fantastic. And so, but whatever it always,

it takes usually 20 seconds to sometimes 2 minutes.

So I didn't even think twice about it.

And then 3 minutes later they go, yeah, they're still waiting

on this. OK.

And I at this point, I've already switched my program

page. I know though, Derby horses left

and right, but I'm starting to go over it again.

And then it becomes 5 minutes and 10 minutes.

I go to suicide. I was like, what the Hell's

happening? They go, there's something in

Maryland that's that's going on and, and like it just kept

happening and going. And then, you know, I'm trying

to call my boss and obviously they're trying to negotiate with

the horsemen and, and then all of a sudden one of the stewards

comes in, they go, they're coming on the track, they're

going to run the race for four minutes and I go, is the tote

working yet? They go, Nope.

I go, oh God. And so I didn't.

What was nice for me was I didn't have time to be nervous

because it was just so confusing.

And then it became it was actually a pretty good race.

It was like there was no pace. They went like it was a good

change, but it but it was a three horse thriller and and

and. You know, yeah, that's a

problem. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, God, it was. But it was weird.

It was just, it was so eerie. Like I walked because I had to

stay upstairs for like an hour and a half after the races to

like tell people like, hey, still not up the teller at 6:00.

They're like the tellers have to go home.

They're shipping the same thing. And so it was.

It was a surreal, weird day and just proof that that anything

could happen in in racing. I wanted to ask you and you

brought up that Florida Oaks being a turf race, we, we love

to get into this. We do a A Road to Pimlico series

on this podcast every year with our friends Dan Ellman and John

Piasek and and now with Cali Francois there at the Maryland

Jockey Club. And we love to get to know these

different paths, these different regional paths to the local

Derby. And of course, Tampa Bay Derby

is your Derby there after the Sam F Davis, but of course we'll

run the Pasco first. You follow much of the same

pattern of Maryland, which is starting at more of these 7

furlong kind of distances. One turn, get the horses more

used to that. Moving on.

One of the three, you know, Do you find that people actually

know the name Sam F Davis a little better than Tampa Bay

Derby? To some like to like, well it

just. Where it is in the calendar just

seems to stand out a little bit. Well, and it yeah, and it's, I

don't know, sometimes it's weird like you say that I feel like

just because it's his name and it.

But what's funny is is you'll ask people who Sam Davis was.

Nobody has a clue and and some but they they know his name for

sure. I mean, the the power of having

your name after a big race. I mean, it's a thing.

But yeah, I mean, we're we're lucky with the Tampa Derby too,

is that we're kind of stand alone in terms of preps that

weekend. This, you know, and and in fact,

usually there's a week of no preps after us.

But Colonial is running the the new Virginia Derby in the

spring. So we have that weird kind of so

they'll be a they'll be a race sandwiched after us there.

But now that the the Sam is also had a little bit of a weird

history, at least since I've been there.

Like we had a big rainstorm one year like as they came onto the

track and, you know, but the same of the Derby, I mean,

they're both a mile to 16th. So they're they're they're very

much the same race just a month apart usually obviously a little

bit tougher once the Tampa Derby comes around.

But really the last few years since I've been there, they've

they've been similar races and, and Classic Causeway won them

both, you know, my first year and the Tampa Tri showed up the

second year. So he he won that one.

But yeah. Evidence that Tapatrice has won

a race and not just run third people.

There it is. He won the he won the Bluegrass

right there. He's a great.

Every Tampa Derby winner I've called has won a grade one

afterwards. There you go, 3, three in a row.

Classic Causeway won the the Belmont Derby or whatever.

It was one of those turf ones. Tapatrice won the Bluegrass and

he won something. He won the Monmouth or whatever

last year and then. What a great random, needless

piece of trivia. That was Jason, a domestic, a

domestic, a domestic product won the the jerkins.

So there you go. Yes, he did.

Yes, he did. Man, oh man, he's already off

the stud. How about that?

You mentioned the Florida Oaks being on the turf.

Is there any particular reason for that other than maybe it's

different than Gulfstream? I, I, I just don't know.

Yeah, I don't know either. And I'm, I'm guessing, I'm

guessing maybe it's a tradition thing because the Suncoast has

been a pretty useful crap nest and and I wonder wheel didn't

run very good, but use that one. And then last year power squeeze

was I I believe was in that race, but I might have to

refresh my memory. But So what you know, there,

it's been a very useful prep. And then the Florida Oaks is

always least one since I've been there been a big field and a

competitive race, but not anywhere near the the Oakstra.

I have no idea why or why it isn't.

I might just be tradition. It might just be, hey,

everybody's going to go to Gulfstream.

I I have no clue. Right, Yeah, interesting.

I've always noticed the race before the Derby.

Well, and it's nice to switch surfaces so they Jason being

with us down there at Tampa. He'll be calling a trio of

stakes races, the Pasco, Gasperillo and Wayward last this

weekend at Tampa. What is the Hillsboro actually

the highest grade at your place? The grade 2 is that.

Is that right? Yeah, the Tampa Bay Derby was

Grade 2 my first year, I think, and then and then Grade 1

winter. Tampa Price.

Won it, so they downgraded it. Yeah.

And and actually the Sam F Davis lost its grade.

We've had a little tough luck with the the grading committee

this last couple of years. It seemed.

It just seems like everybody in Kentucky's goes up and everybody

else goes down. I wonder why that is so anyways.

But they. Yeah.

So we know the Hillsborough has been has been a grade two since

I've been here and and still isn't it's it tends to be a very

Chad centric race. He's always preload in that

race. Grand motion all the time.

We just it's it's drawn some really nice horses over the

years. Bleeker St. probably my

favorite. It was my first Hillsboro.

But she was just, she started, she didn't start at Tampa, but

like she ran an allowance and then a steak and then that one

and then obviously went on to have a really good career beyond

Tampa. So she was, she was kind of

special just because she didn't get started here, but kind of

became good here. All right, So we'll, we'll do

this and then we'll do some handicapping.

You're in your green room, and usually the green room is the

prep room to go to to the stage, right?

But for you, this is the creative room.

Can you? Is green a creative color for

you? I, my thinking was I bought my

house. It's just a little old bungalow

house in Clearwater. And I, and it's just me.

And so I had a bedroom, a guest room and I wanted to have an

office, but I, I like to do yoga and I like to paint.

So I wanted something that was a little bit Zen and I just went

and picked like the most obnoxious.

It's I, I call it Kermit the frog Green.

And, but it, it, it just, I feel happy in here.

It's, it's, it's a great place. I got my, my paintings all over

the walls as you can see it. No, it's, it's a good space.

It looks over my backyard. I, I had a big, my big, I had

this big beautiful oak tree that came down during the hurricane.

And so, but we finally got it cut up and my neighbor's going

to help me haul it. We're actually doing some

hauling today and then I think he's doing the rest tomorrow and

give him a couple 100 bucks. But he he saved me a pile of

money by having a couple chainsaws.

Yeah, OK. But no, yeah, this is this is

my, this is my little, my little workspace.

It's just kind of right off the back porch.

And I love my little house. How have you How?

How did you get into painting? How long have you been painting?

Only like a year and a half or two years.

I went to, I went on a first date to one of those paint and

sip places. I, I had no, my hand, my

penmanship is terrible. I had, I've never been able to

draw anything. And I always thought the art was

something you had or you had didn't have.

I love that assumption. Yes, yeah.

And, and I very much learned that you can learn it.

And so I, I start, I, I did that class, I didn't go on a second

date with the gal, but I went and bought paint sets the next

day. And like I, I got real into the

acrylic painting for a while. And then I started learning oil

painting. I took an online class and like

last year, I mean, I was doing it 5-6 days a week.

And now it's more of a once or twice a week kind of thing.

But yeah, it's been a very, very fun hobby.

Jason Beam, the painter. I like it all.

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Go check them out today. We got a trio of stakes and a

middle pick 4 here, Jason, that I think is kind of fun if people

are unfamiliar with betting at Tampa.

The pick fives very playable 15% and an extraordinarily playable

18% on the double S, the pick threes and the pick fours.

At Tampa as well. Jason, are you those numbers are

right. Yeah, I got that, yeah.

Yeah, I think I, yeah, OK. The the 8, the 18, pick four.

I always, I always feel a little bit pleasantly happy about that

'cause I feel like so often people are like, yeah, pick

fives 1512, whatever it is, and then it's like 26 for the pick

4. I know, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The 80s.

Really playable, Yeah, the the pick fives.

We've had a couple carryovers so far this season, which is, you

know, always kind of it's good for the house obviously.

And, and, and players seem drunk, but our ours, you just,

you have to get a little bit of separation like anywhere.

But I mean, you know, the early one seems to be the bigger pool

and usually the smaller fields. So sometimes, sometimes that one

will pay better with just a little bit of separation because

I think that like everybody's pounding or the the chalk of

your combos because it's just smaller fields.

Used to see that at Golden Gate a lot like the six horse fields.

But if you beat 3 or 4 favorites, like you could really

jump up a payout. But if you didn't, you were

sticking with 40-50 bucks. No, that's right Jason, with us

from down there at Tampa, the first stakes of the day will be

the Pasco. It is the three-year old male

side of things, 7 furlongs on the dirt there.

We see the return here, Jason, of an Owen Almighty, when you do

your handicapping for these kinds of races, how do you how

do you take a horse like this moving from 2:00 to 3:00 off of

a little bit of a layoff here? Well, I, I've, I've I've known

it on my show for years, like every year, these two really

good 2 year olds, they just get smashed at the windows and Owen

almighty is going to get bet. I do think the the four of the

five rookie card naughty Rascal will take some money.

So Owen our money is not going to be a crazy favorite.

But with Irad showing up and with a little bit of the hype

machine behind him like he's, he's going to.

Fun fact too, he's owned by my old boss who used to own Grants

Pass downs. The Travis Forsman's group is

used to be board shorts and now it's what is it Flying Dutchman?

I forget how what they're Yeah, yeah, so but but it's same same

silk, same logo and everything. He owns Dutch Bros coffee out

out West. But yeah, anyway, yeah, he's got

he's got missus worldwide too, so they're they're sending a

couple out here. But no, I just on these kind of

horses at super short prices, I always think it's worth trying

to beat them if they come back and they're great.

OK, awesome. But I mean the number of times

you see like fierceness and these other ones who they you

know, fierceness obviously made the jump to three, but he at

least wasn't wasn't primed and ready that first one.

It's just hard to take short prices because there's a lot

that's happened since September 14th in these horses lives.

And you know, certainly the cutback to 7 is probably good

for this horse. The last workout's really good.

The fact that I read is probably pretty good and Brian Lynch's

has gone through the series before with classic Causeway and

he's and he said as much in the form the other day, like he's

his plan is for this one, if he likes it here to to stay for the

Sam and for the Derby and to kind of make his way to the

Kentucky Derby, you know, via our path.

So I'm sure all systems are go. The other thing is I thought

naughty Rascal was very good at the inaugural stakes.

Donut got donut got who won was, you know, I mean super tripped

out. Like he just sat, you know, he

just kind of comfortably on the lead and, and, and Naughty

Rascal was running at him at the end.

And I know there's questions about Doughnut God getting the

distance, but it was 6 furlongs, like he didn't have to get a

distance. So I just think I, I just think

Naughty Rascal's a very nice horse.

Jerry Bennett. It's kind of funny you see this

horse, you know, he runs those first three really good races.

They try the turf and he wins Jerry's the few year times over

the years, like you'll think like, oh, he maybe has a Derby

horse, then he'll jump it on the turf or he had one that one one

of the Oaks. I think he won the Suncoast the

year he beat Wonderwheel, then ran on the floor at Oaks.

Instead of kind of take the oak dress.

He'll do some untraditional things.

I thought this was a very traditional next spot for

Naughty Rascal. In that race they finished it in

one O 9 flat. Is that fast for Tampa or is

that? Can we expect?

To see that in the past, go. That's that's Holland cookies

for sure. It's one O 8.

I think one OI think I think one O 868 is the is the track

record. That's it's the mom who was a

really good 6 furlong and I mean it's our most common distance

right. So yeah, it was a very fast

time. It was a it was a pretty fast

day though, too. So that's.

Always. What is the weather looking

like? I've seen like 4045% chance of

rain. Is that Florida 45% meaning it's

going to spit rain for 45 minutes or is that like it's

actually going to rain on? Saturday, So everything I'm

showing now is that we're, we're we've moved away from the rain

predictions. It's supposed to be 69.

It's sunny Friday and then just cloudy Saturday.

The rain now is pushed back to Monday.

But I, I, I, yeah, the weather here could, like you said,

there's been many days where I've gone to work thinking it's

not going to rain at all. And then it rains then someday

it's supposed to rain. I I, I don't trust it a whole

heck of a lot. Is is outside of the three that

you mentioned in the past, go is very bold, the most likely to

you know, sneak up, finish second, that kind of thing.

That's not the one. OK, good.

Yeah, yeah. I was like, I, I think the one

horse is is very much outclassed in the spot.

Yeah, I think you, I think you could probably argue that

Theresa Pompey's horse was it was a nice winner last time, but

that was a gate to wire. There's a fair bit of other

speed in here. I think rookie card is super

interesting with Junior Alvarado coming up for Danny Gargan.

You know what, maybe one I mean the thing was he didn't really

get loose last time he had to do it, but he was one at 2 also.

So he probably just much the best.

Yeah, very bold. I think if anything should have

kind of a good clunker type trip in terms of being off the pace

and if if they really go bonkers up front 7 furlongs is a funny

distance, right. Sometimes when they hook up, you

can really get fall apart races and and Owen Hardy, it seems

like he's his horses are running good here, but it seems like

lately last month or two, even going back to the Remsen day

there, his horses are just running good as of late.

So certainly would that's that's got a chance.

And of course, hey, Zeus Castanon knows the course very

well, has this tack down there in Florida.

We moved to the Gasparilla race. Five.

What a tough season this year, though.

Yeah, no, a lot of seconds, frankly.

It's kind of why I brought up a potential exacta candidate

there, unfortunately for him, but seven furlongs on the dirt

for the gals Now. Casbarilla, 150K in the Kitty

here for this one here. We see a dancing Magic in here

at 3:00 to 1:00. And of course I read Ortiz on

this is Worldwide in that same Flying Dutchman ownership group

that you mentioned, Jason, almost certainly going to be

outside of winning, winning. You're in.

Who is 2 to one here coming up from Gulfstream Park, a Florida

bred in that case. Really interesting mix of horses

here, Jason. Yeah, I haven't seen the morning

line yet. So I I was what did they put

this is worldwide at? Five to two winning you're in is

actually the favorite here at 2:00 to.

One and dancing Magical stakes winner.

Right, that makes a little bit of sense.

Even if they're 4. Mistakes.

I agree, yes. Yeah, our our line guy, Mark

Luther has a pretty nice job. I I usually, you know, just like

anybody, he'll he'll miss. But he, he one thing I love

about him, he really cares about it.

Like he he's messaging me all the time.

Like what do you think about this one?

And you know, and so I I love that about Mark.

But yeah, when did you're in? I mean that that last race, this

was obviously such a dud. I think that it it sticks out a

little bit. But if it's like if you throw

that one out, I get why the horse would be the favorite.

But that and that was going two turns.

Those those sire series series races or dying series races down

at Gulfstream. I love them every year because

inevitably somebody smashes in the Sprint ones and then gets

way over betting the route once and comes back.

There was maybe a little bit of that with this one.

This is where I went back and watched the Sandpiper last last

night and kind of trying to think like, OK, maybe dancing

magic didn't have quite the the trip that missus worldwide did.

But no, she just wasn't as fast. And Miss Worldwide was ahead of

her early and stayed ahead of her late.

And you know, it was I thought the horse, the hollow grub, I

think was another Hardy horse who kind of shook late to to

rally up. But no, I just thought missus

worldwide was the was the better of the two and obviously first

couple starts here on dirt this year have have been pretty

fantastic. I mean, you throw out the one

race at Ellis and and her resume is is very, very strong as well

and seemingly getting better. And the the problem with betting

her is with IRAD jumping on board the price.

You know, he's still he's one of the few riders really that could

go anywhere. And when he leaves his mainstays

New Yorker, it magnifies how much he spent.

When he comes to Colonia he just gets smashed at the windows.

Yeah, no, I absolutely another, you know, another jock that's

going to be in town has only written three times in this meet

is Junior Alvarado writing for, frankly, lots of different

trainers. So it's not as though he's in

for Bill Mott or something like that.

Like we expect to see him with lots of places, you know,

looking around outside of that, Jason, especially if we have

someone listening who's, you know, what exact to play or

something like that. They're playing each race

individually rather than trying to hit this middle pick four or

something like that. Is there a local connection that

people should be watching for at Tampa that might actually pay

some dividends for them on Saturday?

Oh, well, I've I've only looked at the stakes cards.

I'll be honest. It's it's funny like you, no.

No, I understand what I'm saying is, is, is there a, yeah, just a

general one? I'm trying to think it like, OK,

so like the four horse here of Voila Paloma here for Santino

and for Bennett. I mean, like, is that the kind

of are they a good pair there at Tampa?

Is that a group we should be looking?

At it's funny they don't pair up a whole lot and which is

actually kind of interesting yeah like, you know it's a lot

of Jerry does use a fair number of riders.

He he doesn't necessarily have just the one he uses but

obviously used it Daniel with the this horse last time and it

got a win so so bringing him right back but you see like

they're you know they've only run a handful of times together.

Daniel rides pretty sparingly these days.

It seems like he kind of just wants to ride the good ones.

We're starting to see that with Pablo Morales too, where, you

know, they're really just right. You know, Pablo usually will

ride the turf races because he's so good at those.

But outside of that, usually, you know, he's not getting on a

lot of 8000 on one or two kind of thing.

And so, but there's there's, you know, Jose Ferrer's had a great

year this year and he I believe, is either at or near 60 years

old and still like he he apprenticed with Richard

Migliore. Mig was talking about that on

the Fox Show. Like, he's like, we were bug

boys together. And so, yeah.

But I love it. Yeah.

Jose was our our jockey of the month.

And he's just, he's off to a very fast start, I think kind of

a sneaky underrated writer here is Melissa Yorio.

She had a really good apprentice here and went to Monmouth and

had a pretty nice summer. Got off to a really slow.

Yeah. Got off to a really slow start

here this season. But I feel like she's had one

win like each of the last five days or something like that.

Seems like, you know, she had some good mounts.

Really. I just was, you know, just not

winning. But I always feel like she's

going to Michael Campbell who you, you you mentioned dancing

magic. I think usually a super sneaky

good trainer, not a big barn. I know it's he's 9% this year,

but like, you know, Patriot, Patriot spirits, one that he has

that's a little bit more of a national type horse.

And he's just one of those barns.

Him and Michael Wright are two that are down here that I always

just think they always have nice horses.

They're always in good spots. They're always contenders, even

though you don't hear about them like you do a lot of the other

barns. We will lean on your local

knowledge here for a maiden special weight in the middle of

the card here. Race 6 is a $53,000 maiden

special weight. We're going a mile on a 16th on

the turf. This is for Philly Space 4 and

up though we have hit that part of the year where we.

See. Yeah, I know.

It's weird, isn't it? If there's 3 and up, yeah, it's,

I've, I, I haven't written 2024 on a check yet or you know,

typed it into something yet, but I have written 3 and up when I

meant 4 and up on something. Definitely on a show sheet.

At this point in the year, I look just from the outside and,

and living in a place with a crappy turf course.

I love your turf course there in Tampa.

Bay Oh, it's the it's I don't know how it's funny.

Like they maybe? The best in the country?

I don't know. They, they keep it up really

good and it, it what's, I mean it, we run 90 days and, and we

run turf probably 80 of those days.

Maybe. You know, we get washed off

every once in a while. And I heard we, we took off in

advance of some expected weather a week or two ago.

And some people were were, you know, kind of complained about

it on Twitter. And I'm like, this guy's been

doing Tommy McLaughlin. He's been doing the turf course

for 100 years. And like he's got and you have

beyond this weekend to think about.

Yeah. So I, I, I think they do a

really good job. And it, it, it tends to play

pretty fair. You can win for both spots.

It got a little bit speed favorite for just AI think one

weekend. But they changed the rails up a

fair bit. Generally for big days, they

dropped the rails down to 0. If that's the case, I always

watch for for speed just because they get to run on kind of that

unfettered grass, those inside path or two.

They do a colonial as well. And I, I've seen it over the

years, Colonial, one of my favorite angles.

The first weekend like speed cannot win.

And I, I've never figured it out 'cause you think it's all nice

pristine grass at that point. But yeah, I remember the couple

years ago Travis filled in for me if you're weak because I had

to have a stomach procedure and he messaged me and he goes, God,

every race is falling apart. And closers, those are the

hardest races to call because you're, you know, because

they're kind of flying from everywhere and every year just

seems like they, they come storming off.

This particular race, though, is a fun one.

And on these big days they're, you know, usually there's a

couple good maiden special ways. You'll see the occasional Chad

1st and stuff. I don't like Chad's horse in

here at all just because to me it just reeks of like, OK, we

thought he was a dirt horse because believe me, Chad tries a

lot of horses on turf to start right.

So the fact they ran three times on dirt and they kind of got

progressively worse makes me think this is a little bit of a,

a hey, let's try kind of thing. The other thing I I would

suggest folks do I because I don't I haven't seen the final

program yet and I'm handicapping off the initial PPS.

Sometimes big days will start our turf races out of the

stretch and not the shoot. Make sure you cuz it it'll have

the proper diagram and whatever your past performance is.

But they usually don't set that till it's final so cuz it.

It's not in the DRF at this point by the.

Way just yeah, so yeah, and and so but but it's just it's such a

different trip because you're you're running for a mile race,

you're only running a 16th of a mile before you go in and things

can get real tight if you're an inside speed horse, you're

you're you're great. You're kosher if you're if

you're if you're inside and you're a closer like you, but

you're gonna have to drop all the way back because everybody's

trying to cross in front of you. Whereas when it starts in the

straightaway, I feel like it's a little there.

There's really no big advantage. Plus you have that much longer

run to the first turn. The other horse this race I kind

of was against was a chant who makes a lot of sense because

she's been ultra consistent. This just feels like a little

bit of a tougher race. The Delacore firster you got the

there's a Clement horse in here there.

You know, there's there's a few potentially really nice ones if

Starship Boeing draws in. I think she's super live.

She or here for yeah, she and and so yeah, I was more against

a couple in here that are going to take money being the two of

the 9. And so this would probably be

the race where I'd I'd try to get a little bit of coverage and

the and try to beat both those two.

Is Sammy Camacho still kind of the guy at at Tampa?

There's no kind of about it he but I will I will say he's I

think he's leading the standings, but not by much.

Samuel Moran has become a major player on our on our course in

certain. He rides for Jerry Bennett a

lot. And we were talking about Jerry

earlier. But yeah, Sam, Samuel I think

has 31 wins and and Sammy is I think got just a few actually,

according to my PPS, they're they're a couple apart, but

Sammy had a triple yesterday. So they're they're they're neck

and neck right now. And it's funny because it's

confusing. There's a Samuel Camacho junior

who wrote a lot for David Jacobson.

I think he's in, I think he's in turf Way.

But that's Sammy's brother. They're both, they're both,

they're Sammy and Samuel. So.

But yeah, Sammy's, Sammy's been the guy here.

Yeah, Sammy's been the guy. Believe me.

They, they would run at the same races last year and I always had

to remember like, OK, that's Samuel, not Sammy.

And but yeah, Sammy's been the guy here for a while and and

until the other Samuel, Samuel Morin could knock him off.

I mean, he's you know, like like the other thing is like Gallardo

and Pablo Moral. So they just don't ride as much.

Sammy's ride most of the card still.

All the time. Yeah, right.

Yeah, no, that's right. Jason being with us from now,

they're Tampa Bay, Tampa Downs. We are looking at the final race

of the middle pick 4 here. Race 7 is the wayward last

$100,000 race here. This is for Phillies and mares 4

and up are going a mile and a 16th here.

Payne Warz in here is going to be the big favorite for say.

She's also entered up here at Turfway Park, but she's been

working really well at Keeneland.

Hopefully. Do you know anything about her

as she was she able to get out of Kentucky?

I mean, that's really a question right now.

Well, I was just, I was trying to figure out how to say her

name. So I'm glad that you.

Oh yeah. I'm here for you, buddy.

Yeah, yeah, I speak both French and Spanish, so I'm actually,

I'm good for this. Like this is what I yeah, this

is what I should. Be doing when it comes to my

announcing prep, like I, I usually don't do it until the

night before 'cause we still got Friday's card to go right.

So and so it's but I'll, I'll, if, if there's any name

questions, I'll go watch replays and forvo.com is, is our that's

the announcer favorite website is, is going for the like Chad

had one the other day that was like porpois pas.

So I had to look up the French pronunciation, but yeah, but no,

I mean that horse. I I think that horse actually

makes quite a bit of sense. I mean, that last try obviously

was against just much tougher. I mean, this is, you know, this

is not great at steaks company. And you know, she kind of, I

thought maybe had the trip she wanted the mud as certainly

could have been a question. Cause the other time she ran on

a good track was when she got really thumped at the at Ellis

Park. And so I was wondering if maybe

the off track was a little bit of the excuse last time.

But I like the draw down toward the inside because she's got

some natural speed. Unless the other thing is, I

don't think I mean the two in the 8 and I suppose Abaddoncia,

the three could probably be mixed, but I feel like Pen Noir

is either going to be on the lead or going to be sitting

third, like just down on the rail and, and kind of getting

the trip. And it looks to me like there's

a bit of a separation between those speed horses the closer.

So I I wouldn't mind it to see her just kind of parking 3rd and

come from behind. But you know, I mean, there's

Evanesci. I I think I think some of the

people are going to see that there's maybe not a ton of speed

and, and, and maybe try to send. It's always, you know, that

that's the puzzle, right? It's trying to figure out who's

going to go, who's not going to go.

Junior Alvarado has little Jamie, who ran pretty good on

the lead the last time out. So that one could be for the

place. But I I think for Peduar, it's

going to be a situation where it's like, you know, I read see

where you break. If you break good, then go for

the lead. If you don't, just just park it

right along the rail and let whoever crossover.

I'm not going to assume that you were familiar with this show in

2020, Jason, but we had a very long running joke on this show.

One of my very best calls on this show was that I had King

Guillermo at Tampa Bay. And so we have we have had King

Guillermo jokes on this show for five years.

I'm never going to stop them. We love that horse.

We we had a whole thing planned. Of course it gets sick during

the week so that we don't get to have fun with King Guillermo.

Did you get to call King Guillermo at any point in his

career? I would be very jealous if.

You did, I think I might have. I'll look it up here on

Equibase. I, I certainly didn't call that

Derby because I, I remember. I remember for your time, yeah.

Yeah, because, because if I remember it's, it's Victor

Martinez's stable, right? Yes, that's right.

Yes, it. Is yeah, because he he, he comes

up here a fair bit and let's. Well, the horse never ran beyond

2021, so I definitely didn't call him.

Oh, no, no. Hold on, hold on.

Hold on. Hold, hold, hold, hold, hold.

He ran. I knew I did.

He ran in the Pelican Stakes my first year and he ran dead last.

I don't care. That's that's what I'm talking

about. Zach, we can retire.

We. We talked to a guy who called

the King Guillermo race. There it is.

Boom, Don Don. No need to be anymore.

We're done. Grunders call King Guillermo

like I I still hear, I still hear his name in Grunders voice.

The other thing is when he goes to Oaklawn, right, he needs

still needs a couple points to make sure he qualifies.

He finishes second in the the Yards on Derby.

Yeah. And Victor Martinez leaps the

couch. Watching it, I thought was just

such a cool moment. Just so excited just to qualify

for the Derby. One of those fun.

Victor's awesome. Like he he when he because he

comes out to Tampa and he'll, you know, they get him a box and

they treat him good and stuff, but like he brought signed bats

for a few different employees. Like he just takes photos with

everybody. Just seems like a really cool

guy. I haven't got to meet him

because I'm upstairs. I love to tell my bosses, like

Coach Cooper from the Lightning comes out a fair bit.

Lou Pinella comes out and I'm like, you know, I'm the biggest

Mariner fan ever. Lou Pinella was our manager.

I said maybe just bring him up to the booty and I and I don't

take, I don't have guests to the booth.

Like I I try not to do that because I I'm nervous.

I'm nervous enough as it is. But I'm like, Lou Pinella can

come upstairs because I want to ask him about anything.

Martinez. Yeah, the, the double against

the Yankees and stuff. But it's funny, like anytime

there's somebody famous there, I never get to meet him because

I'm stuck upstairs. Yeah.

You're busy, you're working. That's right.

Yeah. It is interesting getting to

know I, I, I love Jason. I love what you do.

And I'm very jealous of people that can do it.

And, and Zach is probably smiling in the background of

this show right now just how much I enjoy talking to track

announcers and, and, you know, we all have our favorites and

different things. Is there someone that you try to

stylize your your calls after? Nope.

I, it's funny. Like the people I would say are

my, like my influences are my favorites.

Yeah, like I love, I love Dirk and I love Victoria Stop.

Like I like the big bombastic. I like Pete, you know, and like,

like, you know, if I have a big race, I want, I want Pete

calling it because I know I'm going to, I know I'm the hair on

my arms going to stand up if it's an exciting race.

And my styles much more to the point, not too over the top.

I just try to be as accurate and have a pleasant voice and, and

not, you know, take away, hopefully add just a little bit.

I think if, if if I was going to say my styles close to, I would,

I guess maybe Dave Rodman would be who I would say just because

we're both pretty fast. And yeah.

And so, so that, yeah. And so, you know, but like

Robert Geller was a favorite of mine.

Like I'm not like Robert at all. I I still think Robert sees the

race better than anybody. If you watch what a horse at

Woodbine, there could be a head and head battle or a horse goes

in front by like Robert will call the horse the winner at the

16th pole in his voice. Like you can tell that he

thinks, oh, he's going on, he's going to take it now and he'll

win by this far. And it's I mean, he's just he's

insane at that. He's the best photo caller too,

I think. I have a important question.

Can you teach Louis to be pleasant and calm while he's on

the air? He's a paid professional

broadcaster, what are you talking about?

I got my name on my own show. How about that?

Deal with that, Zach, How about that?

Jason Beam's sticking up for me. How about that?

Well, I love that. Well, check out the podcast

wherever you get your podcast. If you are the only person in

horse racing that doesn't listen to Jason, shame on you.

You will never win a Beamie award because those have gone

away as well. So it's just, it's how it goes.

We're not going to bother you ahead of the tape because we

always bother Barry Spears. Say something nice about Barry

Spears. I love Barry, Barry.

Barry always has matching shoes, T-shirt and bandana whenever it

comes to Tampa. Yeah, I I always tell him what

horsey looks like, 'cause like last year he showed up with

maroon shoes, maroon shirt and maroon bandana.

I said, Barry, you're the 14 horse.

No, Barry's always been super cool to me and he always he

loves, he loves coming out to Tampa and he's he's just a good

piece. He loves Tampa.

In fact, one of my, one of my favorite post race dinners was

with Barry and Chuck Simon a couple years ago.

And what, what was great was Chuck, I mean, I'm 64.

Chuck was probably right in my ballpark.

And Barry's right. Like we're three very large

guys. Yeah.

And, and we're, we're standing at, we went to this place called

Frenchies and it was like an hour wait or something.

And Chuck goes, just keep standing right here by the desk.

He goes, he goes. I guarantee you they'll see.

They don't. They're going to get annoyed of

us standing here. They'll see this.

We were, we were seated 15 minutes.

So just us big oafs just standing there.

You make a better door than window.

That's right. Yeah.

Yeah. Right, yeah, Ever since then, I,

I, I was like, that's the move. You got to just get right up,

get right up in their face and and let them not forget you.

I I now understand why Louis brings Dan Issel everywhere.

No, that's right. Yeah, no.

You mean NBA Dan Issel? Yeah.

He and I did radio together for a year and. 1/2 OK Oh nice.

He turned 75 and he's like, I got to get out of here.

He was the coach of the Nuggets, right?

He was, he was the coach of that Matumbo team that beat, beat

your Super Sonics. Yeah.

It is the. 3rd leading scorer for the Nuggets of all time.

Yeah, still that. Was that was when the Nuggets

had that great like city skyline jersey?

The rainbow and all that, yeah, those were fantastic, bro.

When he retired, three professional players had more

points than he did. Their names are Wilt, Doctor J

and Kareem. That's it.

Dan was unbelievable. People forget he was

unbelievable and he was. He's unbelievably good at radio.

I mean, he's just stunningly good at this stuff and he's

funny and he's still really sharp and.

I talked to him Gary Peyton team.

That was a tough beat, Louis. Oh, bro, Jason, you should, you

should. I should get the two of you in

the same room. He tells the story.

George Karl left. George Karl left the playbook on

the bench. Dan just took it.

George Yeah. Oh, man, I was, I I want to say

I was in like 9th or 10th grade and and the, the Mariners had

this great year, 95 where they finally made the playoffs and

they had that great run and stuff.

But prior to that, like we had never had a good team since I'd

been alive. Like the Sonics won in 77.

I wasn't, I was -3 And so the 80's, the Mariners, everybody,

we just sucked. And so to have like those two

really good teams back-to-back years like we were.

And you know, when you're 15, like that's when you're into it

more than anything. Like we had cards we were

collecting. I mean, I used to know, you

know, I was Ben. Griffey Junior baby, There's

there's still. I, I, I've told people this,

There's, there was, there's no more exciting feeling in sports

than like the electricity of the Kingdom.

When he was coming up to bat, they'd play hip hop.

Hooray, ho, hey. But like, you knew that every

time he came up, there was a chance of something insanely

incredible happening. And I mean, he was just that guy

was him and Edgar Martinez. Him and Edgar Martinez are my

two favorite players ever. Steal home from first base.

Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah.

Do something. Yeah.

Now he was out of his mind. Man, I I also.

Won high, right? Well, Jason, we really

appreciate you. Jumping on Scott, your man up.

I did not mean to do that, thank you though.

I hit the wrong button dude, I'm so sorry.

The timing, the timing on that on my end was so it's.

Unbelievable. Dan is one of the most

charitable guys of all time. He's part of the team that got

the ABA players NBA retirement salaries.

Oh, nice pensions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's still, he's still real active.

And I did not do that one. That was not me.

That was, that was Zach removing himself.

He's like, oh, I want to tell you, I want to.

Say something nice about his whole oh man yeah.

Well, there you go. Well, yeah, it's not stretch out

season. Actually the stretch out season.

We celebrate stretch out season around here.

Jason, go from 1-2 and one turn to two turns.

That's. That's what he is.

He's Jason Beam. Have you seen the Derby winner

yet? You think?

I mean, I'm sure we probably have.

I I don't. I don't.

I don't. Start my formal idea.

Yeah, I don't start my Derby trail till the Lecompte.

That's that's for me. I always feel like that's what I

because what's what's weird is those first few weeks at least,

like I've seen the horse, but I don't remember them other than,

you know, the ones that win the juvenile or something like that.

And so there's a little bit of it.

I always feel like, you know, post le comp as you get to the

Southwest, I feel like that's when like my education on each

class kind of starts because yeah, I just there's so there's

so many 2 year olds to paint it like those stars of tomorrow

card. Like I just get lost in those

because I just like, I know I watched all a lot of those

races, but I don't remember any of them.

What was this to learn? I know.

And it's like, you know, when you're calling, when you're

calling races, like because with the podcast, I try to just

follow the big national races, but a lot of times the best

stuff to talk about is the allowances or maiden race and

stuff like that. But it's just it's hard to keep

up with us. So yeah, my, my, my Derby trail,

like the Lecompte is the start out, which I think is next week,

by the way, or the week out. I think it's 25th.

It's in two weeks. Yes, that's right.

Yep, that's right. Yep.

So there you go. Well, to celebrate Jason, we'll

put this one up. We voted for the other guy on

the Eclipse Awards, so there you go.

I used Jason, we didn't. We didn't vote at all called.

Him in Tampa ahead of the trio of races this weekend.

Maybe we'll catch up with you. I love, by the way, that you

call it the Sam. I don't know what it is about

that. I need a hat that just says the

Sam. If you could do that.

What's funny, too, I I've never met.

I mean, he's, he's long gone, but like, yeah, I just I, I like

calling it the Sam. I don't know.

I don't know why. Because it's awesome.

That's why. He's Jason Beam.

Find him on the pod and call the races in Tampa.

Jason, we appreciate you, man. Thanks, guys.

See you, buddy. There you go.

Jason Beam. He is out of here.

We'll put Zach back on stage and yell at him.

You're flanneled up today. He old dad.

Look at you. I mean, what a ridiculous thing

for you'd be all flanneled up. Look at you.

I. I want to say that the new year

I got some flannels as a present.

Nice and you for Christmas. And I love them and I've got I

had two others. So now I'm on a four day

rotation of flannels with Friday being my T-shirt day.

Well. There you go.

All right. Well, do you have phone with

Jason? How about that little, little

post? Post Jason talk.

That guy? Yeah, he's awesome.

You can tell why he's got a wildly popular podcast.

Yeah, he's such. An easy, Oh my gosh, not only

that, but like, you know, to combine that with a horse

announcer, I mean, he has so many insights.

Yeah, track announcing, so different than this.

Yeah, you're totally right. Yeah, it's a completely

different skill set. Yeah.

And there's, there's something about our generation that those

Renaissance sports casters don't exist anymore, right?

Like like it used to be when we were younger, you know, like if

if you were Kenny Manes, you could call basketball, you could

call horse racing, you could call whatever.

And. And then Sunday morning sports

reporters on ES1 or something for that AS right.

No, seriously. Yeah.

You're right and now everyone's specialized, so it's nice to see

someone like Jason doesn't talk sports like you do.

Who can talk horse racing and then just life, right?

Seattle Mariners in the 90s. By the way, a little #contender

for our guy Jason Beam today. Appreciate that.

Very fun. All right.

Yep. All right, Louis, what is

biggest? Biggest.

Change you're hoping for our horse racing Happy hour this

year. On the show itself, Yep, we're

going to take more trips to more races.

That's what we're going to ask here.

We're going to more stuff. We're going to announce very

soon which Derby prep I'm leaving Kentucky for.

Of course, if you listen to this show, you know that academic

team has totally screwed up my ability to go to anywhere.

I'm coaching too many kids here on academic team locally and so

messed up my ability to go to some of those races.

But we will be announcing really soon which Derby prep we will be

attending outside the state of Kentucky.

On top of that, of course, I'll be going to the Ruby and the and

the Bluegrass and all those things as well.

This year we're going to have swag.

So you see that sweatshirt, everybody?

Those are gonna be available to buy.

Yeah, OK. We'll do that and we'll have

we'll get our road to Pimlico shirt hats out and all that

stuff in the next couple weeks here as well.

So if people want to get in on the swag, they can definitely do

that as well. Well, he's producer Zach.

I'm Lou Rebeau at horse happy hour for the show at radio Louie

for me. So make sure you go follow us on

the socials. You can find us pretty much

anywhere there. Go follow us on YouTube if you

haven't. We'd really appreciate the

follow there as well. And thanks to our friends out at

and and by the way, very personal.

You know, we are streaming on the Sporting Tribune's Twitter

page. Zach, I don't know if you've

seen the updated number, but Arash, who who runs it out

there, pointed out that there has now been more acreage burned

in LA than Manhattan. Yeah, it's brutal out there

right now. Brutal.

Right now, so many of our listeners are based in LA and

San Diego and the surrounding areas.

The hills are on fire. Hollywood signs.

Back and I would I would I would pretend that we can help or

whatever else, but hopefully if this was a distraction, that's

that's great and hopefully you're safe and your family's

safe and you know, there's some kind of remediation that happens

after this. But he's Zach.

I'm Louis. We'll be back next week.

I haven't even looked. I have no idea what races we'll

be talking about, but we'll be back next week here on the horse

racing Gap yard.