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It's the horse racing happy hour on ESPN 680 and one O 5 Seven.

Here are your hosts Louie Rabeau and Mike Gandolfo.

All right. Let's go, baby.

We're here. Derby 150, we're all about it.

Mike, Endovo, Louie Repo. We're up at the top of the

luxury suites of 3/22 for the media.

Did you say repo? Repo.

OK, how about that? Holy, holy, he wins that he's

going to be on. I need Brooke Smith to win

today. Shirtless infield, running

around drinking out of trophies. Sierra Leone.

That would be unbelievable. You'll see a shirtless, long

haired older man. We are.

We're up here. We're ready to go.

It's getting a great day. We got ISIL coming on in 1/2

hour, half hour. We're going to have a Kentucky

agricultural commissioner coming on 11, Jonathan.

Schell Quick. One and and then the guy amaze.

Amaze man pick five every year. By the way, we're also going to

be stuffing some money in your pockets, giving you out some

great picks throughout the day, no question.

So hopefully you get. One for one on the single and

the pick three on the sheet. So you are gold book bets.com,

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Hey, these are layouts. This under card.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, fire dude.

Sometimes you see starts with the future.

Well, that's basically what it is.

And I think like this race, not the second race that's coming up

with the third race, more so the second race to get off a little

bit late, right. The third race, you see some

horses coming down. I'll stick into an allowance

company, sure, the horses coming up into the allowance company.

It's kind of, it's just. Kind of, yeah.

You see that intertwining of of horses either in maybe in

different directions of their career, or maybe they just need

to take a step back down, get their feet underneath them, get

that confidence back, something like that.

So Race 2's getting ready to go. Louie, who did you have in Race

2 that you said? Yeah.

We got the six on top to Silla and I I apologize 3:00 to 5:00

on the on the line here and and so people obviously agreeing

with me here got the four Steel Racer in second spot though.

So if you were looking for maybe a little bit more of a price,

maybe Steel Racer would be the horse that you want to play

here. But yeah, we got the six on top

here, Steel Racer Irad Ortiz and Jesus Esquivel.

The track is is rated as muddy right?

Now, of course, they scratched out.

But the this is the one mile race, one turn, one mile.

They use the shoot. It's it's going to be upgraded

here pretty soon I would think. Louie, no question is this

already looks as close to fast. As a piece.

So I think it's going to be about this, this brown hue the

rest of the day and I think we're going to have a really

fair day racing. I think so too.

In the first race, what we saw too, by the way, we saw first

for Brad Cox wins that made Special 8.

We're not surprised by that at all for Azaru, you know the the

Churchill Downs thing. But really what we saw was a

return to the form we saw earlier in the week, Mike, where

you were able to close, but boy, you didn't want to be too far

back, right? And so we're seeing that again

this morning. If we're back to the form we saw

earlier this week, I feel good about our picks and I feel good

about what we've said so far this week about the Derby and

the cards, frankly, the races on the other cards.

Now, the stakes races. Yesterday, though, you really

had to be up front. That is correct.

I think that's absolutely correct.

Jeff. Torpedo, Anna may have made you

really think, is it just fierce as a show today, right.

And now we're not going to have that seal track.

You know how this is sometimes that seal track beams out that

early speed, you're able to maintain it.

You just stay on the front like that.

I just wonder, you know, today, a little bit more fair, Fierce

says. Getting that distance for the

first time, whatever it might be, is one of those horses in

that final fraction, you know, top three, one of those that's

going to run them down. Of course, we'll be right here

talking. About torpedo Anis run

yesterday, that opening fraction Lily was sub 23 and she kept

that pace. They hit the top of the stretch.

She broke away. It was unbelievable.

Just watch so. So we watched too.

Part of that was we watched Brian Hernandez junior give a

master class on getting to the front, slowing the pace down so

that his horse can take a little bit of a breeder on the inside.

On the inside was able to slow it down into the 20 fives for

some of those fractions. And so our six year, our other

single in the pick three here is in the lead is going to start to

pull away a little bit as big as you would say eat some more.

So if you're not in yet folks, that's two for two today.

We had five odd top winners yesterday.

Gold book bets.com Already off to a banging start so far that's

fantastic. Yeah.

So the six there again we're looking at a stalker was up, was

up towards the front but not in the lead, got to the top stretch

in the in the middle lane was where that horse came from.

With that, oh, by the way, we had the cold trifecta in the

book. Boom, boom.

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you know, not have to pay out of pocket to go to Baltimore and

those kinds of. Things.

All right, let's talk about what else was impressive yesterday.

Sub 135 for the mile. Wow.

OK, so folks, we got a fast track today.

Let's be really clear. One sub 135 for the mile

goodness and that horse was geared down OK.

So we're we're looking at speed today folks.

Boy, that makes me really doubt some of those deeper closer.

So fierceness is looking like it could be.

It's a good. Spot for him today.

That's right. Yep.

We'll talk about a lot of those horses later.

Point on point. That's fast, dude.

He didn't touch him. What else?

Look at that. 16 Volt doesn't touch him.

What else did impressed you yesterday?

Idiomatic. Let's start out there when the

launch win. Great.

That's a great point to start. Great place to start.

We're set up this year, Mike. And here's what's cool.

Torpedo Anna ran a better figure on the track yesterday.

We're set up again. This show tells you over and

over, Fall in love with the Phillies over and over.

No question the Oaks, one of our very favorite races of the year,

leads into that distaff. In the fall, Torpedo Anna runs

faster than idiomatic yesterday, now idiomatic.

First off, the layoff yesterday. Fantastic.

They did everything they needed to do in the law.

Try end. So not going to hold that

against her at all. I think as she gets better this

year, I think Torpedo Anna, if she can keep that style, that

distaff could be absolute fire. Because how many other horses in

that oaks do we love? Five or six?

Oh yeah. Oh, that class is so good.

If they stay healthy, man, we could have a lot of fun this.

Summer. I mean, and we talked about it

too, that the Oaks really isn't the premier Philly race for

three-year olds, right? So you got the Acorn.

In five weeks, that's right. You have the Alabama in August

and like so, like the older females don't meet these

three-year olds really until we get to the Breeders.

That's exactly right. That's a great point by you.

They do head to Saratoga for that summer.

They run the test. They run it, you know, in that

Alabama and as you mentioned, the Violet of quarter Alabama,

for whatever the hell reason, they run it for a mile of the

quarter. Let's go.

And so, yeah, Thorpedo Anna that style.

Did you see anything about her yesterday that makes you think

she couldn't get another eighth of a mile?

No, she was. I saw, I saw Brian Hernandez

junior this morning and I said man that's a hell of a ride and

I I sometimes jockeys don't get credit for the on the lead races

and he did what what we talked about those quick fractions to

get the lead and be comfortable but then he got to the

Bachelors, he slowed it down man and that's knowing how to do

that. Having that intuition is why a

guy like Brian Hernandez Junior is just one of the very best.

All right, who else stood out to yesterday?

I don't know if we need to go through every race.

But yeah, you know, I had accidentally put away the other

past performances from yesterday.

I apologize for that. Give me two seconds here.

But. You know full of oaks say you

know our best pick yesterday was almost certainly in that tenth

race in the Edgewood. I went on top of dynamic

pricing. Oh my gosh.

Yeah, you hit that if you liked it more than the justify.

Yeah, so I I liked it a little bit more than hard to justify

who came in. It did a lot of the work in that

race, right? But that's an exciting thing

too. Here, Mike, we're getting these

these divisions in horse racing. If you're willing to step

outside of the three-year old Colts, if you're willing to pay

attention. We got a bunch of nice

three-year olds this year. And look, maybe this Derby

actually ends up being one of those where we look back and we

go man fierce, as was that horse or man, Sierra Leone was that

horse or, I don't know, catching freedom.

Whatever it is, maybe that horse is in that field.

Mike, it just doesn't feel like it right now.

And I think some years we do this and you know, it reminds

me. Yeah.

Right. Yeah, that's a really great

point too. Sometimes we meet him later in

the year, but in this case, you know, it's one of my favorite

lines from my colleague Judeiner at ESPN 680.

You know, he's talking to to Richard Pitino and and Richard's

going through about all the great things about the other

team and and and you know, true looks.

Adam says what you you got a good team too.

And he goes, well, yeah, everyone hates their own

players, right? And I think what happens is

sometimes we get in the bubble of watching these replays and we

pick the little, the little inconsistencies, we pick the

little problems and we forget, like you always like to point

out that we're really watching horses that are not even mature

yet. This is an incredible stage for

essentially high level middle school aged athletes that we're

talking about if we're talking about human sports.

And so I think sometimes we just get in our heads, oh, this horse

can't do this based on what, 5 races?

Let's be better? Well.

We're going to see a horse like that today with Zozos, right?

I mean, it's a great Derby, was in the Derby with Rich Strike

and he's. In the Churchill Downs, he's.

Unblade one, by the way, incredible career with zozos.

And and frankly I think one of those that you could probably

look at and think that's that's where I want to go skinny in my

ticket. Now we're not in our picks but

if you wanted to go skinny Zozos might be that guy he doesn't

well I had I had his horse second which is good that's

actually gun pilot was in that race as well.

Good to hear that from him yesterday are.

You getting some hand cabin? Oh, we absolutely.

Get into We're going to start. By the way, we're two for two

today, folks. Let's let's keep it going.

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All right. We're.

Going to start with the fourth race.

This is the Knicks. Go overnight stakes.

Louie, explain to people what an overnight stakes is.

Oh, OK. I don't know.

I thought we did know. I don't.

Know. Well, never mind that.

I think it's the one that fills with the horses that didn't get

into the other, or it's a stakes for horses that haven't won a

stakes recently. So this is not a great at stakes

race. By the way, I'm pulling up the

text line 437-9680, 502-437-9680 if you want to get in.

If you have questions, if you have a horse you like.

Hey Louis, what are we doing with this?

Just let us know. Go ahead.

One mile here on the dirt for the Knicks.

Go overnight, just like the race we just saw.

Who did you like in the 4th? Race.

Yeah. So the fourth race I went to

best actor. I'm a little chalky here 5 to 2.

Flavi and Pratt and Brad Cox. Of course they'll catch up on on

on catching steel later not catching steel.

Catching freedom later apologize.

And so I, I, you know I think that horse coming out of the New

Orleans classic getting back to a mile only having to go one

turn 3 for four in lifetime at the distance.

That one just makes sense to me. So we'll go with the six on top

in race for Oscar eclipses in this race as well.

The 11 on the outside we get. Jose Ortiz, We get Brian Lynch.

Jose Ortiz had the biggest upset in any of the stakes yesterday

on the turf. Brian Lynch has turned into a

fine fine dirt trainer in his career and making the move from

Australia to Kentucky. I think the two of them really

good comes out of that shirt that Sir Shackleton at 7

Furlongs, if you watch him in that race, went back and watched

that the other day, he's stalking the entire time and

makes his move at the very end. I think actually the added

distance will be really good for him.

A Son of Oscar performance. You know The funny thing?

We got Strava in this race and again, the same thing we thought

was a three-year old. This horse could elevate to be a

stud. And Strava, though, is the 88 to

1 coming off a win with Irad Ortiz.

At Oakland Park. And we watched, and we watched

horses come from Oakland yesterday.

One run well in the slop today. If you wanted a longer shot,

that's a great one. I read Ortiz at 8:00 to 1:00.

Take that all day. But Strava was a Grade 1

contender at least. Don't, don't think.

Never ever never won a A grade one.

But I wasn't that Grade 1 Malibu back in the day?

OK then the fifth race here, Louis, and we're going to just

get a couple raises out before we get to Issel.

Yeah, it's a little 1130, Yep. We got the Twin Spires Turf

Sprint. It is a 5 1/2 fur long.

First off, what do you think about the Turf force yesterday?

I thought it played totally fair.

I thought you could. You could close on it.

I thought you could. You could get out front and stay

out front like Jose did yesterday.

Handle the water OK. It handled the water fine.

It looks OK today. Look, is it is it going to be

good for four races a day, the whole meet?

Absolutely not. But I think for today's

purposes, if that's what you're asking about, I think we're

fine. I.

Think people just care about today?

That's. Right at.

The end of the day, right? 5 1/2 furlong Sprint here on the

dirt. And this is for three-year olds

and up. Who did you like?

In this man I went toward the outside.

The 10 big invasion is in here for Christophe Lamont has won

over the course before. It's coming out of a really nice

run at Gulfstream Park. Last out, ran 4th by 1 1/2

lengths. Really, really torrid pace and

closed into it. So this is a horse that I'm

looking to see if they'll be sitting about mid pack.

Something like that did run in the Breeders Cup turf Sprint

last year. Finished second.

We're all second off the layoff here, so I'm really depending on

that for moving in five to one here because of the connections.

Six for 11 lifetime at this distance with three finishes in

second place in sprints to be up there that often. 9 times out of

11 in turf races. I've said this a lot over the

last couple of days so I apologize for repetition, but in

turf races Mike, as long as a horse is there at the end, I

trust them to be there at the end again.

And this is a horse 9 times and eleven runs that has done

exactly that. Look for Mischief Magic.

The 8th Frankie Dettori is in. He's riding a lot for Charlie

Appleby today. I think.

I don't have to explain to a lot of people listening how good

Charlie Appleby is, but if you don't know who he is, he's a

trainer for the British Isles. He brings horses over for big,

big spots. Obviously he thinks his horse

has a spot here He ran in the Shaker town.

Last out is a four year old son of Exceed and Excel and

Australian bread. Actually it's interesting, but

ran really well in the Shaker town.

Second time in the United States, run after running in the

Arabian Peninsula. We talk about that on the show a

lot as well. Sometimes horses need a run back

in the States to get going. This is a horse that had never

run in the States before that now is run once at Keeneland.

Ran really well under Tyler. Another kind of closer though.

So interesting that I have two closers on top in this turf race

and we're going to go to four we.

Got somebody get engaged. Guy got engaged on the tracks.

Do we like that? Do we like that of?

Course. We do.

Oh, good man. I case you back to Megan.

That's true, actually. That was a it was a great.

That was a really nice day, actually.

That's a great. You.

Know did the damn thing, didn't he?

That's right. That's right.

Notorious is the four horse here four fifth motto.

Flavian Pratt gets the amount here. 19% coming off of a layoff

like this. Does hit at 16% of graded

stakes. Fill the model.

Very, very good at taking shots and hitting about 1/6 of the

time in turf races. Give me those three horses on

top of the. Way we're talking about some

serious turf sprinters. Oh my goodness.

Most stash is 20 to one in this field.

Dude, that's legit. This is a grade 2.

Yes. And I think, I think if you

wanted to spread here, I think it's not a bad, it's not a feel.

Like a grade 2 plus field. Yes, absolutely.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean this.

Is a big big? Charlie Appleby shipping for a

turf Sprint where the horse has to take a turn instead of just

going a straight line is is actually a sign.

You're totally right. That's a giveaway that he thinks

it's more than a great two. But we got.

Horses that ran that Breeders' Cup turf Sprint last year that's

a both notorious in big invasion, big invasion finishing

second in the Breeders Cup turf Sprint that was in San Anita

where Louis and I were there. We saw that.

We saw that live. There you go.

All right. You.

Want to go through a couple of Derby horses or what do you

want? To do, yeah, we can do that for

sure. I do want to talk about, you

know, some of these races with Thistle for sure, but you're

right, we should definitely start going through Derby.

Horses. All right.

We'll go through the Derby. Horses.

What we're going to do is we're just going to go one through 20.

We kind of go through the field, talk about what we like, what we

don't like, gives you an opportunity to kind of get your

plays together. We'll do a couple each segment.

We're going to have a tribute question each segment.

Like we said, Luke, Dan Thistle coming on at the at the at the

next segment here on the horse Racing happier.

I'm Mike Adolfo. He's Lou Rebeau and the Derby

this year is race 12. All right.

So we're going to start with the one horse which is Door Knock.

Door Knock has beaten Sierra Leone.

Door Knock has shown an amazing amount of talent.

He won the Remsen, which is the like.

Has the Remsen ever been talked about more than this year?

I talked about it this morning on WLKY.

The Remsen is never I I'm so impressed that we have so many

horses that were there in the fall that I mean.

December beginning. Man, it's just been crazy.

Well, what's wild is we have two races like that.

We have that Remsen that was in at Aqueduct like you mentioned

door knock domestic products obviously Sierra Leone there

again what I no one's talking about how ironic it is there one

and two in this race that they're right next to each other

after that finish in the Remsen. But then the the most stronghold

too, right now made in special weight which is not even.

That's exactly right. So stronghold, resilience, track

Phantom in the same race here at Churchill Downs.

It's interesting we tell people start watching these races

September, October, November. Watch those maiden, watch those

early 2 year old preps and sometimes you'll find a Derby

prep. I love it.

So door knock here. Louis Suez aboard here and and

what did you think about this is one of Gargan's horses?

We had Gargan on this week. You know, it's interesting.

I actually, just, I talked about this when I was on with Fred and

I said the interesting thing is and you know, we for years we

talked about Bob Baffert doing this.

He would just talk about the horse he wanted to talk about

Gargan kind of did that with us on Monday with society man.

Did you not feel that way? He talked about him way more.

He was really excited to get Frankie to Tory for that mount

for, for instance, door knock, though.

If you're going to be a speed horse and catch the 1:00, this

is the era to do it with the new gate, right?

Because he's not going to have to take that right turn or try

to beat horses. The other good news for him is

Sierra Leone Mystic Dan. They're not fast Breakers.

They're going to go back anyway and he gets to save ground.

By the time we get to the Derby, that's there's not going to be

any issue with the rail. He's going to be able to run up

there. If you wanted to use door knock

at all, this might be the year. It really might be.

I'm not going to, but I would understand the case for.

Him in that rim seat. Well, look, he's son of good

magic. All this kind of stuff, all

these guys have hit the board before.

It makes total sense that he, you know, his mom's My big brown

Pook was a serious source. Full brother to mage obviously

won the the won the Derby last year.

Yeah, if you're looking for a price, man, that horse

definitely makes sense. Yeah, And then once he's won,

that's what he's done. By the way, the story there too.

Sometimes it's sports. I think the stories happen and

we just assume it's coincidence. I think once in a while, like, I

like Danny Gargan, who didn't grow up very different than Brad

Cox right around the corner. This was his home track.

His dad was a jockey here, won the Oaks, won the Clark

Handicap. Sometimes it's personal for

those guys. Their focus is better, their

training is better. They notice little things.

Who knows what Thorna? I mean, I yeah, I can't be a

complete toss. No, not a horse that beat Sierra

Leone. Not, not right.

Not when we saw a horse get out front, stay out front yesterday.

And by the way, won the Fountain of Youth at Gulfstream.

And horses translate well from Gulfstream to here.

They just do. So no, there's a lot of

positives about him. All right, Sierra Leone is the 2

horse, Tyler Gafflion by the. Way someone's going to listen to

this show and be like, oh great, I got to bet all twenty horses.

That's not what I'm trying to do.

I'm just trying to make a case. Don't worry, don't.

Get wrong. Would we be shocked at door

Knock One? Absolutely not.

You know, are we given a big percentage chance of Door knock

winning? No.

It's like 4, yeah. Right four to six and is door

knock also one that you would say was either wins or misses

the. Board.

I think he misses the board. Yeah, he's not one you'd want to

complete, you know You wouldn't want to box, right?

But if you want to put him up top, you couldn't.

Unless somehow he's able to maintain and he gets past at the

end. But I think that horse is much

more likely to be fierceness this year.

In in his lifetime, six starts, three wins, two second places.

So that to that point that's that's when those two.

Those two show or two places. Is so we got someone playing

along with the book today as as texted in yes Sir.

Let's get this 9 ohm here. Catching freedom, my Derby pick

Louisiana Derby extremely impressive.

Some horses are just waiters and catching freedom is that horse

will be in a much spotter out of better spot out of the gate

today. Catching freedom you will find

out later. Is second in my Derby rankings

how about that. So I agree with the I agree with

the texture. I think it will be very, very

much part of the equation today. Door knocks.

Current odds? Well, we started off 20 to 1.

Can I guess? Yeah. 312121 Good job on the

Good job in the Morning Line. How about that?

Yeah. Alright, Sierra Leone is the 2

horse. I mean Sierra Leone comes in one

of the hottest horses out there people would say could have been

the Co favorite, gets that dreaded 2 spot.

People kind of forgot about him just a little bit 3:00 to 1:00

in the morning line. So you know, till the morning

line gave him a good, you know, they they lost the draw.

No question, they are the horse that lost the draw.

Yes, if Sierra Leone is going to, Sierra Leone's going to drop

to the back. That's everyone's coming to the

rail. You know, I talked to Chad Brown

at the draw and the only thing he said was a positive was

because of the two, he's able to save ground going to the first

turn. There's less distance to cover

and I don't, you know, in our heads, Do you really think of

the 17 as way different than the two as far as saving ground to

the first turn I? Don't.

But apparently it is a real thing.

And so I got to get over it, right?

It's one of those things where Louis was wrong, you know, one

of those things. And so I think in this case, he

said it was a couple clicks more closer to the rail than we

wanted to be. I think that's a reasonable take

and it's probably the right one. I think they rather be at 5 or

something, right? Well, it's interesting because

like if you look at the Oaks versus the Derby, it's probably

something that really got Leslie Rose yesterday, some of the 14,

but you got that extra distance down a stretch and the Derby is

not that. Big now you have to do more

work, right? But if you're going to get the

mile accord, you going to get the mile right.

And I think we're both in agreement on that.

So, yeah, Sierra Leone, it's. A bigger deal going on the.

Turn If that horse at some point is last in the Kentucky Derby,

do not be surprised and also do not freak out.

That is how he runs. You know he reminds me of you

ever started an old car that has the crank or seen it at least or

whatever and like it takes a little while and it kind of or

like you have to hit the choke on your lawn mower.

It's almost like the beginning of the race is hitting the choke

on the lawn mower and he catches up after that.

Sierra Leone Forest lifetime. Yes, I I mow my own grass

people. Yes, Mike's wife, Grope, mows

their grass. She does.

She does not. That bad you know, fits the mold

though. Louis has race as a 2 year old,

undefeated as a three-year old. One 100 point race if you're

looking at old school things. One of the slop 1 dry track, one

100 point race. Hits the final fraction theory.

I mean all this stuff. All the he checks, all the boxes

he's absolutely must include. The only thing that he doesn't

have really is that post position draw.

That too has been very difficult to win out of.

All right, let's do one more here.

We're going to talk about the three here, Mystic Dan before we

talk about Dan Thistle, Mystic Dan here, Kenny Mcpeake trying

to do something very rare, give that Oaks Derby double.

Not alive. Kind of root for.

It Brian Hernandez aboard. I mean, they could do the whole

thing, man. It's going to be could be pretty

awesome. They won this race, yet they won

the Oaks yesterday. Busy.

Dan's been getting a lot of buzz.

A lot of buzz. He's almost become the buzz

horse, is he not? He's pretty close.

I mean he's he's one of the, he's one of them for.

Sure. Can you pull up the odds again

because I'm fascinated by this. He runs a full 4 and 1/4 lengths

behind just Steel. He's down to 15 to one, started

out 20. To one, he's 15.

To one, what is just steel at? Just steel is at 26 to 1.

I don't understand that at all. I don't understand that at all.

And so I Mystic Dan to me. Can he win the Derby?

Yes. Because the last 16 Derby's for

the longest odds on the board have won the Derby.

Yes. Do I think he's going to?

No. Do I want to bet him above under

20 to one? Absolutely not.

How's that? That's probably the best way to

play it is that I do not want a piece of that horse for less

than 20 to 1. And so look, connections make

sense. We watched it happen yesterday.

Academy Peak knows what the hell he's doing.

It's fine to say this horse does run in the southwest.

What I like about him Five lengths off essentially lead.

That's a good position to be in. The Derby in that race makes

this run late runs up the the up the rail.

BHA by the way, now has two of the very best rides this year.

That Oaks ride is super underrated as I've already

mentioned 1700 times already in today's show.

But that ride with Mystic Dan up the rail to cut the corner there

in that Southwest was just as good.

And so I I think people were overly excited about him in the

mud. I think there were other mudders

here. I think this class actually is

good on dry end and wet, but in my mind here, Mystic Dan is not

a winner. The guitar.

Let me ask you a question though.

Hernandez is going to have to do it two totally different ways if

he's going to. Do this.

That's correct, I trust. Him did that play into at all?

Zero. No, I He's fully, fully capable

of doing both. I think Brian's wildly

underrated. The the trumpet is saying.

He's won a Breeders' Cup race. I mean the the it's time to put

Brian in the proper strata and it's it's above where we

thinking. He's definitely in the second

one at worst. They're getting ready to come on

the track here for Race 3. Let's do that real.

Quick we are. We're getting close to.

We get these scratches out for us real quick.

Race three had a bunch of scratches.

We're going to scratch the six, the 5-6 and seven in this race.

Louis, where do we land on the three here?

This is. I'm actually against the

favorite here. The 11 is a one to two.

We have them in the pick three so that's fine.

We got the nine on top here. 5 to 1 right now for Todd

Pletcher, one on 1st asking at Gulfstream Park. 88 speed figure

first time out. The reason people are jumping to

mind frame on the outside was a one O 3 speed figure.

First time OK but 2 to one on a horse that's only run once was

really uncomfortable for me. I ended up putting them third.

Love the connections here between Pletcher and we saw as

and and so I I have that horse on top here with the 9:00 we'll

see if we can get another on top.

Winner here mind frame shows up and and and proves like we we

looking at another a new stud kind of coming on the.

Well, Mind Frame's three years old, right?

Was Triple Crown nominated? And so interested to see if this

horse shows up because we're in the mile Shoot, right?

Right now we're going mile 16, Mile 16.

Hey, Mike, is the Belmont a mile and 1/2 this year?

No, it's not. Oh, it's not, is it at Belmont

this year? It's not.

Oh, where is it? And it's over 10 furlongs like

it is today. It's So are they setting this

horse up? Maybe not for the Belmont, but

maybe for the Haskell or the Traverse or the Pennsylvania

Derby. That's we try to tell people, I

love this part of the show, man, this might be a future

superstar. You're right.

But think about that. We got a horse debuted at 88,

and he's 15 points behind 103 on that.

So I went nine on top here. I got the One car 2 show in the

second spot. Is he running?

He is 11 to one right now. 12 to one.

That's what I got. 11 to one on the board though.

Yeah, right. Yeah.

One at Tampa. Love the kick on this horse.

Went back, watched this race as well.

Chad Brown goes sprinter out at 29%.

OK, so that's what I was really looking at here.

The two of them with between him and Javier Castellano hit at

27%. I will admit.

Look, it's more likely that the nine and the eleven wins here

than the one, but 11 to one is a really nice price.

Might be a good place bet here. I like the but again, Louis

trusts the nine as what he's going to get out of the Nine

more than he likes the 11. But the 11 would not be shocked

if he wins. Could be a rising star in horse

racing. That's what we got to watch.

It's under card, no question. All right, let's get to our

tribute question. We're going to get to our first

break. We're going to get this on the

line. We're going to do all that

stuff. Louis, what is our tribute?

Question. All right, so the largest margin

of victory in the Kentucky Derby is 8 lengths.

Four horses have done that, none of them since the end of the

Second World War. Can you name any of them?

We will start with that. Probably not.

All right, we will ask Danissel who was at all those derbies.

He was at all. Those, Yeah.

One of them was the the 1914 Derby, which Issel was 15 years

old for. There it is.

All right, we'll be right back. This is the horse racing happy

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Kentucky Derby 150. It's the Horse racing happy hour

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historic Kentucky Derby 150. And I we want to welcome in our

favorite 150 year old. His name is Dan Issel.

Good morning, Sir. How are things in Denver?

Things are great watching the horse racing FanDuel and

hopefully cashing a few tickets. There you go.

Hike. Yeah, man.

All right. Well, you were at Keeneland

recently. How did Keeneland treat Dan

Issel? Keeneland always treats Danis

little spectacular. I like that he got the picture

of Mark Pope, man. He darned right.

He got the picture of Mark Pope. Do you know you went viral on

Twitter about your handshake with Mark Pope?

Yeah, and I'm guessing it wasn't me.

I'm guessing it was Pope I. Don't know, man.

I don't know. I'll take big ass over Pope.

Let's do that. All right.

There you go. Well, he is.

Dan Thistle joins us here on the Horse Racing gappy hour on Derby

day. Race three is off here.

Dan, you know outside of the Derby, Is there a race on Derby

day that you always look forward to?

Well, sure, I always I love grass racing.

We might be, we might be seeing the best 3 year old in the

country in this third race at at Churchill right now.

This this Constitution cult is awesome.

Yeah. We were just talking about mind

frame, yeah. It's really good right now we.

Were thinking Dan, you know and just trying to figure out like

what his future trajectory might be.

Do you think he, you know, this is the kind of like a traverse,

maybe Pennsylvania Derby kind of horse?

Well I absolutely, I mean we'll we'll we'll have to see how he

progresses. But I mean, his first race was

spectacular and, you know, I, I don't know, what do you think

about the Belmont with this horse?

Well, especially since it's 10 furlongs at Saratoga, right?

Yeah, yeah. And so we'll, we'll have to see.

You know, I've seen a lot of maidens that were spectacular

for the time out that didn't get it done.

So we'll have to see what happened.

Well, I think he's about to win by about 20 here, so we talking

about this guy for a while. Holy.

Holy crap. Whoa.

He's. Jeez, OP.

Man, there we go. Well, the the first pick three

in the book is hit, but my I did not have him on top.

I was going to try to beat him today and that was a massive

mistake. So there you go, mind frame.

We might be. Pulling away that is, let's see,

123456. He won by 7.

So there you go. All right Dan Thistle with us

here how the horse racing happy hour that race is done.

You know Dan, every year this this Derby City distaff turns

into a nicer and nicer race. It is Race 6 today, the grade

one, 1,000,000 bucks here, Dan, they're they're lowering the

purses again here at Churchill Downs.

I really wish they would stop doing that.

Yeah, I was surprised what the that the race that Idiomatic won

yesterday was $1,000,000 purse too wasn't.

It for sure, yeah. You know what we didn't get to

ask you about yesterday? Thorpedo.

Anna wired a wire. And I was saying earlier in the

show, Dan, you know, sometimes jockeys don't get the credit for

getting the lead, slowing the pace down on the back and then,

you know, saving their horse or the stretch like Brian Hernandez

junior did yesterday. Yeah, yeah, I mean it was it was

some kind of impressive, I believe this idiot texted a

friend of mine who said that was the most over bet horse in the

oaks yesterday. She looked like she was one to

two coming down. This, Yeah.

You and I disagreed on the race, but we didn't agree.

We agreed that she wasn't going to win it, and then she just ran

away with it. So there you.

Go. She looks very impressive.

Very, very impressive. She actually ran a better number

than idiomatic. How about that, Dan?

But of course idiomatic. First off the bench there.

When you watch a horse, like idiomatic, you were there at

Santa Anita when she went to the distaff, you see her winning the

LA Troy. And yesterday, man, we say on

this show fall in love with the Phillies and mares because they

run longer. Idiomatic.

She's moving into that conversation.

Huh. Yeah, no question.

And you know, great, great. That judgment brought her back

for another year. They they could have easily

shipped her off to the to the breeding shed.

But good for them for keeping her in.

And I don't know Louis, she seems to you know whether she's

on the lead or Yep she showed yesterday she doesn't have to be

on the lead and and still ran a spectacular race.

So I'd I'd like to see her take on the boys at some point.

Wow. How about that?

Yeah. Dan Issel with us.

Yeah, she she's, I mean, synthetic slob dry dirt any and

she's wins. She's the winner.

It's unbelievable. Nine of her last 10 now.

Unreal. I think we got a better chance

though, seeing seeing Torpedo Anna take on the boys.

Maybe we'll talk about her going the Preakness.

Maybe. Yeah, that kind of got shot down

yesterday by Kenny Mcpeak, but 10 for a long Belmont?

I don't know why that's out of the question.

Would you try Thorpedo Anna there?

Would you scare toward the Acorn?

No, I I wouldn't. I might try.

You know, you've got Baffert, who's sitting there loaded for

the Freakness, and I wouldn't. There's no way I'd I'd run her

in the Belmont, but I'd I'd keep her in those.

I'd keep her in those grade ones, especially as a three-year

old. Now if you want to take on the

Colts, you know, do it. Do it next year.

But what? Why?

Why take them on now when you've got all these grade ones for

three-year old Phillies that are worth a lot of money?

Yeah, fair enough. Dan Nestle with us.

Of course. Here Horse racing happy hour.

Mike Andelfo next to me. I'm Louis Rebel.

Thanks for hanging out with us live section 322 here at

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Buddy. You and I get to used to get to

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To talk about race 6. Let's go to race 6.

Race 6 is what we're going to do 7 Furlong One Turn Sprint.

The Derby City Distaff Stakes presented by Kendall Jackson

Winery. Of course my favorite man, this

is a grade one and it's $1,000,000 purse for Phillies

and various 4 year olds and up. Dan, where did you land on this

one? You know, I I landed on the 10,

you know, I know that. Yeah, I know that Albastar beat

her last time, but that that first weekend at Keeneland it

was impossible to close from more than, you know, three or

four. There was one point where there

were three, like through the through the third weekend or

there were like three horses that that came from off the face

at the head of the stretch. Sierra Leone was one in the

Breeders Cup. I forget who the second one was

but our Philly Saint Benedict's prep was the third one.

And so I I think that I think she turns the tables.

I'll tell you, don't sleep on red carpet ready because she

absolutely loves Churchill and she's and she's going to be up

close. I think she's 3 for 3A lifetime

at Churchill. So you know, if you're doing, if

you're doing horizontal wagering, don't.

Don't leave her out. Yeah, Dan and I have the exact

same two horses. On top it's get out front, see

out front so far is Baba going to be able to?

You know you say that the first race was not it was, it was it

was stalk in the first race. But yes, getting out front is

totally OK. I think Baba is going to be

close enough. 2 lengths, that kind of thing.

Dan right about two lengths off that lead red carpet ready

though is ready to set the pace if she wants to.

And I agree with Dan, 3 for three lifetime is impossible to

overlook. You get Rusty Arnold here.

You get Luis Saez though that's an absolute must use as well.

Dan. My long shot in here is 3

witches on the inside. Flavia and Pratt.

Mike McCarthy did win that Santa Monica last out once in a while.

Dan. I just trust that California

speed and sometimes you know coming out of Santa Anita they

really do translate audit Churchill Downs.

You get 3 witches. Much shot here.

Because if you look at Keeneland now, I know Keeneland's

different than Churchill. There hasn't been enough, hasn't

been enough races. But at Keeneland, Louie the the

California horses did not perform very.

And so I I'm, I'm going to Chuck her in this race.

I have Elvis star third in that one did win the Madison as Dan

mentioned ahead of Volvo and red carpet ready.

But I I agree with Dan. I think the tables can be turned

here. I also do agree Red Carpet Ready

loves this course. All right, we did not answer our

trivia question. Oh, Dan, we asked.

You were at the 1940 nineteen, excuse me, 1914 Kentucky Derby.

Do you remember the winner of that race by 8 lengths?

I I don't. I remember the burger who was

exceptional that day and the and the mint juleps were very tasty.

There you go. I can't.

I can't. You know, I'm 75.

I can't recall the winner. There you go, Old Rosebud in

1914, Johnstown in 1939, and two horses everyone has heard of

World Away in 1941 and Assault in 1946.

All four of those horses won the Kentucky Derby by 8 lengths at

the time. Of course, the the race is being

running at a mile and 1/2 so that you had more chance to to

run away with the race. There you go.

Yeah, All right. Well, let's go to the 7th race.

There you go. The seventh race is we're going

to get on that turf course. It played like Louis said,

played very, very, very as the sun just shines down on.

What is that light? What is that?

Dan, do you know what this is? This, this sun thing?

We don't get that here very, very much the last two days.

Go ahead, Dan. I was just going to say the sun

has come out at Churchill. That's terrific.

That is horrific. Actually, yeah, we'll take a lot

of sun for like 3 hours here. Let's go.

The law. Are there supposed to be?

Is there supposed to be rain later on this afternoon?

Maybe it's going to be a pop up. It's it's like a hit miss.

They don't know. Very Derby.

Sort of like 20 minutes. It's a coin flip kind of deal.

They're not sure if it's going to hit here or not, so we'll

have to just kind of see. Yeah, So some sun right now

would be nice. Yeah, get this thing dried out a

little bit. You know, they're still calling

the track muddy, but it's it ain't muddy, it ain't muddy.

It's good at, good at worse. Closer, Closer to fast ham.

So the the the the seventh race is the one mile longing

Churchill Distaff Mile. It's a grade two 750,000 mile

purse. Again we will be doing a two

turn mile here on the turf. Louis, let's start with here.

Yeah, I landed on the the Honey Fox winner in Chile Flag Chad

and Irad can't beat them. Irad did me good yesterday so

I'm going to stick with them in this spot as well.

Does have late kick is probably going to have to do what they

what what she did in the in the honey fox here which is probably

about four legs off the lead going into that final turn make

the late kick after that so I'll go chili flag on top here.

The three of the six is Della Hay.

Think this horse is really interesting at 8:00 to 1:00.

It's the other Chad Brown. How often do we get burned by

the other Chad Brown? Pretty darn often Three straight

wins after getting necked out in its first race as a three-year

old last year in February. We took a ton of time off, ran

again in November, came back in a maiden special down there at

aqueducts. Runs over that course, goes down

to Gulfstream. Wins over that course.

Goes to the fairgrounds, wins over that course.

Makes me think that this horse can win here.

Three straight wins as well. And I love the 8 to 1 price.

Chad there, Dan. Yeah, I'm going to go with the

11 horse Capisce. That how you say it, you you

look at the Chad's numbers with these kinds of horses and look

who this Philly ran against. I mean, you look at her European

form spiral how you say it, Heredity, Nashua and all of

those Phillies would be, would be one to five in this spot.

So I'm going to take a chance on La Franco de Torre.

That's my third pick. It's almost like Dan and I are

just picking up where the other leaves off.

How about that? I mean you.

Scott taught both you all really well.

So we're going to move on then to the eighth race here, which

is the pat day mile. This is a race that we thought

was going to set up to be very, very strong.

I mean, it's not bad. It just didn't quite shake out

the way it gets. I thought it'd be.

I agree. This is a great two 600,000.

And by the way, I think it's a harbinger for the fact that the

Preakness field might be really good this year.

And we've talked about that for a couple of weeks.

I think a lot of those horses that we thought would be in the

pat day mile and just point to Baltimore.

Dan, who did you like in the PAT day?

I I I like Nash. You know you look down there.

He he didn't he didn't run very well on a sloppy track got beat

well. He only got beat a couple

lengths by Tuscan. Sky track Phantom was a phantom

early and fairgrounds and he and he ran close to that horse.

His last race I thought was was pretty good, so I'm going to go

with the 12 Nash. Nash is best speed figure by the

way was that. That's correct.

It is maiden win that blew all of us away.

We all thought, like we just saw with this last horse that he was

going to be the next thing, Dan, and obviously hasn't gone that

way. But maybe they find out with him

in a similar way. Gosh, who won the Indiana Derby

last year? I'm totally.

Yeah, yeah. But that Chad, you know, Chad or

excuse me, Brad Cox figured out that that was a horse that

wanted to go mile 16th and shorter.

Right. And so Nash might be that kind

of horse. Maybe we do see him in the end

of the Indiana Derby. That might be the Indiana Derby

horse for the Cox Barn this year.

I have top Connor on top here. Ran and broke his maiden in that

one turn mile shoot at Gulfstream Park to open his

career. Tried him in the Bluegrass.

Didn't run poorly only lost by 8 lengths but in his first time

going two turns. I think getting back to the mile

distance here will be really really positive for top Connor.

Other horses to fill out that spot.

Sees the Gray is the five, eight to one here I get Torres and you

get the coach. Here was another horse that

coming out of that Bluegrass before that though did win in a

mile and a 16th at Oak Lawn High level optional claimer tried him

in the Ruby. Ran 3rd so got some Derby points

there. Ran them back quickly in that

Bluegrass to try to get points at Keeneland.

Didn't like Keeneland? I you know, Dan, it's

interesting. The Phillies seem to be OK

moving dirt from Keeneland to Churchill, but we don't see that

on the cold side. Isn't that bizarre?

It it, it, it really is. And I again, it got fairer,

fairer as the as the meat went on.

But early on I mean you had if you weren't 1st at the head of

the stretch you would not win it.

So it was amazing, yeah. By the way, long shot, Long long

shot play on that Who day, The seven Brian Hernandez junior

aboard. He might just be in the zone

right now. That's a horse that's going to

be second off the layoff here already, one for one at

Churchill Downs over that mile course as well.

All right, we're going to go now.

Let's talk about a couple Derby horses.

Let's get into the Derby with Dan now, yes?

Right, we left off. We're going to go through.

Dan, I want to get your overall pick here, but eventually, but

we're going to just talk about the four, the five and the six

very quick, the four being catching Freedom, who of course

won the Louisiana Derby. Not a lot of knocks here.

I'll actually let Dan go first. Brad Cox is his guy.

Yeah, you know, I'd. I'd.

I'd like to see this, this Colt win.

The Albaugh family have put a lot of money in, but I but my

pick in the Derby is Forte. Did he drop the mic and leave?

That would be great. Oh man, What do you think of

this horse? Do you think he's got a shot

though? I want to.

I want to make fun of Mike some more.

Go ahead, go make fun. Four day.

Did I make it to the gate? We did.

We did eliminate Mage from our pick six ticket.

I knew it was coming up. He.

Made us go too wide against Cody's wish.

It was great. I know.

It's coming up. It's all right.

It's all right. You know what?

The fact that Dan Nelson's making fun of me.

Oh, that's a good moment, man. That's a good moment.

So. Do you think he's got a shot

today, Dan? Where would you put him like

like top five, top 10? Where do you have him for his as

far as having a shot to win here?

Yeah I I would put him. I would put him in the top five

you know the the the the race that he ran in the Louisiana

Derby. I thought something was wrong

with me. He dropped he dropped back to

dead last that that certainly isn't his running style.

I mean he's not going to be on the lead but he's usually mid

pack in in all of his races prior to that and the way that

he ran now you know the question is what did he beat.

I I don't I'm not a big honor Marie fan and Huskin gold.

I he didn't beat much there, but in only the 4th start of his

life he was within a length and a quarter of Sierra Leone who's

going to be second choice in the Derby.

So yeah, I'd. I'd put him in the top five

there. You.

Go. I agree.

I agree. He's a top five type of horse

for sure. By the way connections and and

if you look at this horse sometimes we talk about every

other types. I think he's got excuses for

every other. So when he runs, you know that

second time out in the optional claim, it's first time going two

turns that he wins in the Smarty Jones, he runs back at the Risen

star. It's sloppy and he only loses

by, like Dan mentioned, a couple of lengths there, you know.

And then he comes back in Louisiana.

Derby has a terrible start, has to go the furthest he's ever

gone his career and he wins. So Dan the the the biggest thing

about him for me is in the final fractions theory, he's way at

the top. He's like he's 2nd and he's

already run a mile in 360. He showed he can go the

distance. Yeah.

No, the the mile and quarter won't be a problem.

Yeah, there you go, I. Think it's top 10 for me.

I don't know who's top five. OK, there you go.

Yeah, I think we should toss them out our pick six.

Alright. I have not doing a pick 6.

That was the joke, right? The fifth horse is catalytic.

Jose Ortiz aboard Saffy. We had Saffy on the air a little

bit talking during. This week I wish he were a

little more talkative because he's fun.

He's fun. He's fun.

He gets. We're having fun with him.

I think that's probably right. The phone.

The phone makes it hard. For you, it does make it his.

Yeah, this horse came in second in his last two races and the

Florida Derby and an optional claiming race as well.

Really, he's only got 1 stakes race.

He's really lightly race. You know what's interesting

about him is I, Mike, if you think any other horse was in the

Florida Derby with fierceness, does do they beat fierceness?

Not that day, man. Not that day.

So what if we take fierceness out of that race and we just

have catalytic beating Grand MO the First, who also qualified

for the Derby? Do we think of him differently?

Obviously we do. Right.

A little bit maybe to 25 to 1 or 20.

Here's the case I'll make for him.

I don't think he wins. I want to be clear.

I don't think he hits the board. Here's the case I'll make,

though. He ran that back after three

weeks. He was sick.

They had to scratch him out of a race for a second race at

Gulfstream Park. They ship him to Tampa.

He wins off the layoff October to March.

He comes back and they and staff, he's like, he's in good

shape. Why don't we try the Florida

Derby? And he beats every horse in that

that field not named fierceness, OK.

It's kind of like when Flight Line won the Pacific Classic and

the other horses didn't know that he was in the race, right,

You know? And so I wonder.

In a different year, if we're talking about catalytic in a

really different way because it's still a 90 speed figure,

it's still those things. I just really wonder if if it's

that again, like I said, I do not expect him to do anything

today of of substance, but it's still Jose Ortiz and still he's

going to get a good ride, right, those sorts of things.

I just, I think he's a little early.

Again, if he's going to develop, it'll be Traverse, Pennsylvania

Derby that kind of year. What do you think, Dan?

I I think the only reason this. Horse is in the race is so his

connections can get a box for the 150th Derby.

I give this for absolutely no shot.

None Miss Bircham with some. More Dan.

I love it. Who?

What's? Worse that horse's chances in

the Derby or Mike's handicapping?

No, my handicapping is good. I actually agree with that.

I agree with that. There you go.

All right, let's move on to the six horse.

This is it's this. Particular day that he stinks.

The six horses just deal. This is a.

Justify the justifies have been unbelievable.

Right? So.

And we got a demand man. Dewayne Lucas here with Ken

Asmussen aboard. He's Asmussen.

That's a kid. Yeah, just steal here.

What do we think about Just steal, Dan.

Oh, go to Dan. Yeah, yeah.

Go. Dan.

Dan, you. Know.

I don't. I don't know.

That that last race, you know, if if Muth was in this race,

would he be the favorite or second or third at worst, I

don't think he's. The favorite, though?

Second or third. At worst, though, he's top.

Three. Yeah, I agree, Danny.

Top three and and. You know Wayne's horses?

He he runs them into shape. I mean, you know this, this

horse has made four starts already this year.

He's made eleven starts already in in his career.

If. If you.

Look at some of his other races, like The Rebel, the Southwest,

The The The Smarty, The Smarty Jones.

I don't think he'd give him much of a chance.

But then look at that last race. Where did that come from?

He only got beat 2 lengths by move, and he was 32 to 1.

So this would be a great story. I'd.

I'd love to see this octogenarian win who win the

Kentucky Derby with, you know, a kid that's just getting his

writing career started. But I'm.

I'm using five horses in my horizon that's and just steel is

not one of them. Got it.

Yeah. I think Dan's point about.

How well he ran in the Arkansas Derby isn't worth.

We shouldn't overlook it if if Mage can win the Derby running

well in the Florida Derby last year and is working toward being

better, that just Steel may have done exactly the same thing in

the Arkansas Derby this year. I'm I'm more nervous, Dan, about

trusting Keith Asmussen in a first Derby right at that age at

this stage. All those things.

I talked to him. He's a very nice guy like all

those things. But I just.

I wonder if the stage for some of these guys is just a little

bit too much and that's all I would push back on.

Obviously the coach knows I'm not worried about Lucas a good

guy really doing here like 0% son of justify.

Obviously all those connections make sense.

But no, I I'm with Dan here not a likely winner for me but I

think just steals in my top 10. How about that?

Yeah, I think he's in my top 10 most likely winners.

All right. The first stakes race is getting

ready to. Go again.

This is the Knicks. Knicks go overnight.

If you were listening to us earlier, we gave out the the you

gave the best actor. Is that correct?

Yeah, I have Best Actor and Oscar.

Eclipse 1/2 here, Dan in Race 4. Hate to make you flip back, but

do you have a pick for Race 4 for our listeners?

You know what I. Thought this was the most

competitive race on the card. Looks very fun and.

And I know. That best actor.

But look at the horses in this race that have to be on the lead

to run a good race. I mean, there is speed after

speed after speed horses in this race.

You know, obviously it's 7 to 5, Brad figures to win it.

But I thought. I thought this was the most

competitive race on the card and I spread deep on my pick five

ticket I. Like I'm I'm liking.

A little bit of a price here with the 8 horse Strava.

Let's see what happens. Interesting one if Dan's right

in, the pace falls. Apart out front look for

Dennington, the two possibly on to pick up the pieces here 8 to

1. Brian Hernandez, Junior OK, so

so Dan, you mentioned you had. Five horses that you're using?

Yeah. What are your?

Who are your 5 Derby? Horses.

My fight well. First of all, you know if

fierceness gets a clean trip and everything goes his way,

everybody else is running for second.

How do you how do you how do you trust the horse in a 20 horse

field that needs everything to go perfectly for him to win and

and so you know based on that I I use I use both of Cox's horses

I used Sierra Leone and my long shot is the other Chad brown

horse who domestic product won the.

Tampa Derby, yeah, yeah. Those are my horses lot.

Of. Lot of the best product talk,

Daniel. The final fractions.

He's the best. Horse standing The best late

kick of any Kentucky Derby starter.

How about that right? The horses are getting ready

and. Listening.

To people who were there, he might be training as well as any

horse coming in the I mean, he walked a couple days ago.

He walked off the track on his hind legs.

He's he's feeling good for sure. Imagine you you can't get.

Tyler So you have to downgrade to Irad, Ortiz Junior.

How about that? All right, fourth race horses

are coming. On the track, they just played

the the call to post. Louis, let's get to our trivia

question. Well, let's let's have a, let's

have Dan. A kind of, you know, walk us

through here, Derby 150. You were at Derby 100.

Yep. That's not a.

That's not a. That's not a joke.

Good. You really was?

No. No, he was.

He was really there. And so I it's it's certainly,

it's certainly cool that we get to be here for this one and we

get to talk to to Dan who was there for the 100th.

And oh, I get it, Yeah, yeah, for sure.

We'll we'll figure something out.

We'll get the out for something this year.

But you know just the Derby in general and you know we always

joke on this show with you, Dan. We have a great time about the

Churchill Keeneland rivalry. That doesn't actually exist or

whatever, but Derby Day itself, as far as, you know, just the

the calendar, the race card today and yesterday, you know,

kind of like being a Spring Breeders' Cup on the opposite

side of the schedule, you know, Do you, How much do you look

forward to these two days of racing?

Immensely. I you know, I've, I've said

before if you give me my choice of attending every sporting

event and I I don't know how many derbies I've been to.

But I know my first one was in 1968 when I was a junior at at

at UK and I'm going to guess I've been to 25 derbies maybe

more. And even even with that, if you

gave me my choice of any sporting event that I could

attend, Super Bowl, World Series, NBA championship, the

Masters, I would pick these two days to be at Churchill Downs.

There you go. He's Dan Thistle.

He's out there in Denver. Doing the darn thing.

Say hi to Sherry for us, buddy. We'll catch up soon.

OK, bud? All right.

Have a great day. Guys.

See you. Thanks, Sam.

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Didn't pay. Much.

But we're we're going to. Be in a pick though.

We didn't. Post it in time for it to.

Go off so we will post something for them later on in the card.

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