KY Downs Preview Day w/ Louie, Dan, & Kevin

Kevin Kilroy (@TrustYourLuck) joins Dan & Louie in his usual spot on Friday. They focus on KY Downs Preview Day at Ellis Park, with three turf races ahead of next month's meet at KY Downs.

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Let's do something a little happier and we'll bring in our

guy. His name is Kevin Kilray is that

trust your luck on Twitter. You can find his stuff at first

gensports.com as well. And I, I got to say, Kevin, you

did a good job for us because Kevin, the other day, Dan wrote

a piece on the Jim Dandy last weekend and Irad's ride during

that race and then he took to Twitter and I could think of

nothing. It's just an interesting way to

choose how to spend your time, Kevin.

I try to, I try to stay away from any sort of kerfuffle

sweater and I don't. And I don't think it got it got

dirty out there. But it's just nice to nice to

put some different opinions of, you know, when everybody was

just just trashing Ira, I mean. He's the easy guy to hate.

But don't we love having these guys in our sport that that we

like to hate? You know, I mean, it's just sort

of a great part of so many sports and I think people forget

about that. And in horse racing sometimes

that, yeah, we might hate it, but that doesn't mean that he's

not one of the best. And obviously we can see that

with IRAD with all the mounts that he gets.

But yeah, that was fun to write about them.

Think about that piece, you know, that was tough.

Obviously we were looking at Saudi crown to get the win

there. But the Stewards, you know, that

was that was probably the worst situation where it just like,

seemed like such an obvious DQ textbook DQ.

What You know, how could this go any other way?

And then, boom, they leave them up.

It was a weird deal from from every angle it was.

It was villains on every side. Are we losing Kevin or I've got

one I think is worse and I want to ask you about this on a

Thursday last Thursday and and I I've got to tell you that I have

a personal interest in this because our friend Ed Musselman

gave a gave out a 20 to one shot as the as his bed of the day at

Saratoga and and Jose Ortiz. Comes out in the stretch and the

horse that I had in a pick four at 20 to one, his legs actually

went between the hind legs of Jose's horse and and they did

not disqualify. Everybody on the set at Fox was

saying, oh, this horse is coming down, this horse is the stewards

did not disqualify him. And then.

And then they gave Ortiz 3 days. How can you give a rider 3 days

and not disqualify the horse? That's it.

Yeah. He should get more than three

days. He's had a bunch of yeah, that

was a horrible situation. He had another one with the

swore. I think it was swore who was

coming for a clothes and it set up for that that Faraday horse,

that Chad Brown horse to get it up on the rail where Jose just

gives a left-hander and and cleans his horse to the right

and knocks swore right before the wire.

You know it's just so obvious, so blatant and that that one

cost me money, right. You know so and you get mad when

it costs you money even more. But but I do love these Ortiz

brothers. I mean they're competitors.

Every time I've talked to them they've been they've been nice

guys but just just in passing the right.

But they do they. To fire up the fan, which we

need more of, which is good because we want to be passionate

about this sport, Kevin Kilroy with us here on Isle and Louie

at Trust Your Luck on Twitter. We'll get in now into the

Kentucky Downs Preview Day at Ellis Park presented by our

friends at the Kentucky HBPA. Hey, through an agreement with

Kentucky Downs several $1,000,000 is transferred every

year in association with purse money to Ellis Park's purse

account. Additional money generated

through the Kentucky Downs HHR operations in Franklin and

Bowling Green go to Ellis Park in the form of Development Fund

person supplements. And so other than that Stephen

Park that Stephen Foster weekend at Ellis Park.

This is the richest weekend of the meet.

Three $200,000 stakes on Saturday, two $200,000 stakes on

Sunday, a $250,000 and $300,000 stakes as well on Sunday.

Winner of each stakes receives an automatic fees paid spot in

those races at Kentucky down. So we want to thank all of our

friends at the Kentucky HBPA for all of that.

The purses tomorrow. Dan, Are you ready?

Yes, 74,070 thousand, 74,070 thousand, 74,070 thousand,

200,200 thousand 200,000. That's at Ellis Park in August.

The pee patch. The old pee patch, Man.

How about that, Kevin? Nice infusion of money.

And with that, of course, comes better horses.

We go to race seven, part of that $3.

All turf. Pick three.

Do you like these kinds of wagers, Kevin?

I do, I do, I do, I do. I like a high base bet to it.

I think it, you know, weeds out all sorts of arbitrage out

there. All sorts of CA, W's, computers

who are putting their bets together and able to to use

their computer power to to tackle them all sorts of

different ways. So you got to have a strong

opinion, you got to be able to handicap and you need to get

paid on them. So I do like those.

All right. So this does start a $3 all turf

pick three. This will be my play this

weekend. Kevin and I'll have plays up at

first gensports.com that you can check out.

Five and a half furlongs here, $200,000 as I mentioned, this is

for Phillies and mayors 3 and up.

I'll go to you first, Kevin. We get base storming here at

8:00 to 5:00, horses over 4 this year.

Always tough in a turf Sprint to determine who's going to win.

Yeah, over 4 this year. I mean, of course, you're

running second to caravel. That brings up, you know.

Will will cause a lot of money to go to base Storm, but I think

this is a very short price. I don't think it's going to be 8

to 5 on base Storm. There's a lot of ways you can go

in here. The the two most likely winners

to me are #2, love and money. And then if you look on the

outside you got to quarry a comet.

Paolo Lobo winning 35%, Cerrito Beau with love and money winning

all over the country left and right and they both took a nice

step forward in that in their last races they they look live

and here for a price I think #4 linguistic 20 to one.

You can see the running line 2 back finished three quarter

links behind coffee maker who was ultra impressive yesterday

at Saratoga I think had a 97 buyer with that wed even though

it wasn't a stake race. So I think.

I think is one that I want to to to consider heavily.

We can get that sort of price to Dan.

What'd you land? Here I landed on one of the

horses that Kevin just mentioned, the 10 Quadria

comment. I you know, you're absolutely

right. If you look at the Bay Storm's

lines, she's been running against some awfully nice

Phillies. But having said that, she hadn't

won a race for a year. And I think they figured out

this. I I think they figured out this

Philly on the outside. I mean she had all of those

races on the Kitty litter up at turf paradise.

Excuse me, Turfway. Turfway.

But then the last time, the first time that not the first

time, but Joe Talamo took her off the pace and she closed like

a freight train. I I really like the 10 quandary

comment. There's a bunch of very live

horses in here including super munnings.

The seven hasn't been mentioned yet.

Chris Landeros in the irons for his fatherinlaw.

Ian Wilkes, 87 buyer last time out wins over the turf course.

They're going 5 1/2 furlongs in one and three and change.

Dan, they ran 5 furlongs in 57 and change.

How about that? So super fast last time out

could be a horse like that that jumps up.

I think a lot of horses have a serious shot here in that

Kentucky Downs preview Mint Ladies turf Sprint.

We go to Race 8. It is you.

Can give me an idea there though, Louis, We got to I got

to do a piece here on soninlaws writing for their fatherinlaws.

How does that work out? Is that a successful

combination? Right.

I could never write for my fatherinlaw, I'll tell you that.

I told you not to marry that idiot.

You're out of the will. All right, Kentucky Downs

preview is the Dueling Grounds Derby is race eight, $200,000.

Here we're going a mile and an eighth on the turf.

As I mentioned, it is a Derby, so it's for three-year olds.

And so we get to see some names in here, Dan, that we've seen

before. Wadsworth is the favorite here

at 8:00 to 5:00, I think a deserving favorite here.

Do you like him here enough to to kind of hold your nose and

single, or do you think there's some other place here?

Now I I think I, I I thought this was the of the three races

at Ellis. I thought this was the most wide

open. Now you know certainly Wadsworth

deserves to be the favorite. It's it's Godolphin.

It's Brad Cox and four on. But you know, if you look at the

speed figures in this race, this is a pretty, pretty closely

matched bunch. And so.

I'm going to because I'm only playing two horses in the in the

prior race. I'm going to, I'm going to

spread pretty good here. Which horses are you playing in

Race 7, then, Dan? Just so people know.

Oh. OK, I'm sorry.

It I'm, I'm going to use the three for Todd Fletcher and

Starlight Racing and I'm going to use the tall boy I like.

I like his shot. So this is race eight.

You're using hidden path. And and I like the horse on the

bottom. I think that's another Pletcher

horse. He's only made two starts in

this country coming from Maidan and I I give him a little

chance. James Graham always seems to

jump up and and win one somehow. So those are the horses I'm

using in addition, in addition to Watchworth.

Got it. Kevin, what's kind of your

philosophy here? Because Wadsworth is going to

get a bunch of money here. Those connections obviously

hasn't really done anything wrong.

His last two races between the race and the Caesars at

Horseshoe and then he comes back to the American Derby during

that Churchill part of the meet at Ellis, you would you use a

Wattsworth with other horses? Or if you think that he's

beatable, do you avoid using him in longer tickets?

Oh, if I think he's beatable, I just avoid them all together.

There's, there's, you know, unless.

Unless I have like if linguistic, if that was a single

for me, right. If I if I was just like putting

put it all in on that sort of 20 to one.

I might you know get defensive and use Wodsworth just to stay

alive because I want to realize that value I got from that first

leg. But, but in general, if if if

I'm going to use a short price favorite, then I'm going to I'm

just going to single that one and not not waste my money with

any of the other ones because. You know, the probability says

that if you like that horse and so there's the market, then

there's a good shot that that that horse is going to get it

done here outside of Wadworth, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

So I'm, I'm, I'm fading Wadsworth.

I think it's drawn poorly out here.

There's a ton of speed. I do like that 12 that Dan was

mentioning, mentioning Shirar half to Lady Eli, busy Caroline

as well. Lincoln Hwy. #5 seems live

Worthington could finally realize the potential act of

fool Larry Ravelli. But #7 Anglophile is the one

that I really want to to make my top pick.

Brian Lynch. Becky Cannon.

They've been they've been the team.

No, no, no. Offense to the Soninlaw there,

but Brian Lynch and Dec in Canada, they didn't get it done.

That was a good run. Last last out, step forward in a

nice way. I think we've got more to be

seen here and it says blinkers on on my DRF, but as far as I

know after a win you can't add or change equipment.

Do you guys have blinkers on on your on your PP's for #7 for for

Anglophile? I do, yeah.

Yeah. Am I am I wrong that you can't

change, make equipment change after a win?

Or is that? I I think you have to I I think

you have to get the Stewarts okay now I I think what you I

think what it is Kevin is that if the horse lose or lost the

last race you can make the changes and just tell the

Stewarts that's what you're doing but if if but I I don't

think you they can keep you from doing it but you have to get

there okay to do it. Okay, I was wondering about

that. Yeah, I think we'll get a good

price there. I think the pace is going to set

up. We've got a lot of a lot of

these three-year olds who should be forward and trying to take

him get to wire. So I think that was set up

nicely. Good trip there, Dickie Cannon.

He's just been riding like a like a maniac, doing it so well

on the turf specifically. All right, there you go.

We'll move on to the final race. On the card, we're talking Ellis

Park with Kevin Kilroy at Trust Your Luck on Twitter.

We're talking Kentucky Downs Preview Day three big stakes at

the end of the card, all part of a three dollar pick 3.

Kevin and I will have our picks up at First gensports.com in the

coming hours and so you can check those out as well.

Final race of the day is the preview for the Mid millions,

and there's an S on that race now Dan, because it used to be

$1,000,000 but it looks like they're inching closer to 2

million. Bucks for this race when we get

to Kentucky Downs 200K, the old one turn turf course down there

at Kentucky Downs. It's more of a Sprint.

Dan if you will, 3 year olds enough going to mile at at Ellis

Park so they'll start at the finish line there and end at the

finish line on their one mile turf course.

Kevin, we'll go to you first here a fun field here.

Some names that people probably know if they follow Hosiers in

this race. Great Fable is in this race, we

get 4 to Ventura as the favorite here for Jonathan Thomas, who

has a bunch of good runners in this race, has Flora Giroux

aboard to me. I think he's the class tier.

He's won back-to-back in at least a reasonably good company

both in Indiana and then he goes up to Canterbury and wins on

their big day. Where did you land in this one?

You know it's another field with that should have a lot of speed

especially these outside horses should be sending.

I like these inside horses in here in Minnesota ready coming

out for Neil Pesson, Trafalgar. I think it's interesting coming

late and then the big dreaming top pick in here is big

dreaming. Wayne Catalano's 6 year old

horse fully intact horse and he's a big big dude.

I always am a sucker for the Wayne Catalano, Frank Calabrese

combination they used to just to take care of business up in our.

Lington Park when I was young in my horse playing days and I

would just see these guys with these Italian last names coming

out and winning all the races. I thought it was pretty pretty

kick ass. So Big Dreaming is quite a, you

know a quality runner just hasn't always been able to keep

coming back on the afternoons. Has three wins out of four tries

at the assistance one win over Ellis Park and a nice bullet

workout. They're coming into this, so I

really like that one. And the Minnesota Ready just ran

a zero on 3rd graph and that was a speed favoring.

Today, so you know Ellis Park as we've talked about sometimes

that main tracking really carries speed, so you want to be

a little bit weary of that, but that's that's heads and tails

above the the rest of the field in terms of that third raft

figure. So I am also very interested in

Minnesota. Ready.

Yeah. Dan, where'd you land here?

You know what's interesting to me is that Floran Giroux is on

all three morning line favorites in this in this sequence and I

think we can beat all three of them.

I I my my topic is is Heaven St.?

He's coming out of New York first time in the Mike Maker

barn. I love Torres on him as a

jockey. I'm going to play a few other

horses in here, but I'm going to put Heaven St. on my ticket.

There you go. There are some cool stories to

in these races tomorrow. For example, I know he's trained

by Brad Cox, but going good in the first race that we talked

about in this sequence at race seven was bred for 7500 bucks

and he's closing in on 400K at lifetime earnings.

Yeah, that's that. That's Richard Klein's horse.

Yes, it is. Yeah.

Klein family and it's kind of a cool thing that we're starting

to see, especially on the turf side where we're getting more

and more of these kinds of horses where people haven't

quite given up on them and they get into these kinds of races.

And because the purses are going up and you know we have the

opportunities of things like like we mentioned with Kentucky

Downs, more chances to run in these races.

Again, Kevin is presented by our friends at the Kentucky HBPA

huge day and huge weekend at Ellis Park tomorrow and Sunday.

You get that Kentucky Downs Preview Day tomorrow and then

four stakes on Saturday including the Great three pucker

up for $300,000 on August 6th. Make sure you check those out.

And again, I cannot stress enough, Kevin and I are totally

in lockstep on this. That $3 base makes that pick

three really interesting. At the end of the card there, I

think I'd be remiss not to ask you who you were in the Whitney

is. Geez, you know, it's always hard

when you get emotional about these, these horses.

Cody's wish. But what a great opportunity to

take a swing against. What about Dale Romans Giant

game. I think that's a giant game.

Could be sneaky in there. Luis Faya's riding and it's got

some early speed. I think he stepped forward in a

good way once he started signing the front and he could could,

you know, just run them off their feet.

You know, I think Cody's Wish This is a is the best one turn

horse. But still the speed figures are

great. But I'm going to try to take a

swing against in the Giant game. Yeah, where are you on that one,

Dan? We'll get into it later.

But with a horse like Cody's wish, do you just trust the

class? Or do you look at his form and

think, man, he might just be better off at one turn?

Now I I trust the class. I I see no reason why this horse

shouldn't get. I mean, you look at this and.

You know the the the the horses that are in here against him

they they seem to me to be teaser they have a chance and

and they don't win and all due respect to Kevin you know Dale's

horses coming out of Prairie Meadows.

And Cody's wish won the Met Mile.

So I'm I'm going to say being by Curland out of a tappet mayor

the the mile and an eighth is no problem for Cody's wish.

Well, there you go. And don't be not.

Have to fall the tracks. Midwestern tracks come on Iowa

Prairie Meadows ain't live grand.

That's. The So so do I.

So do I. But I don't think anybody can

compare the Cornhusker to the Met Mile.

Not, not at all. I'm just joking.

I love sticking up. The small guys, well, he's Kevin

Gilroy. I have to tell you, Kevin, we're

at the Indiana Derby and it's, it's early.

And I look over and Dan every 25 minutes is getting up to walk

over by the bar. And I'm thinking, man, Dan's

hitting, he's hitting it early today and what I didn't realize

was he had to pick 5 going to Belmont.

Small, small ticket, Dan, how much was that ticket?

12 bucks. No, it was 20 something.

OK, 2020 something. Dollars.

And he's got charge. It singled in the Suburban and

the horse and the horse wins like like it.

Like there's not even a race going on And so dance plus like

500 before we even turn around. That's a 500 bucks.

Even a even a buying squirrel. Even a blind squirrel.

I think all gamblers listening will appreciate the the end of

this story, which was we got one of the people there, great staff

up at Horseshoe to change the TV.

So Belmont was on closer to our table, but Dan still got up for

the Suburban and walked to the spot because he wasn't going to

not stay to the same spot. You got to do that stuff, man.

All right, so, and trust your luck on Twitter.

He's right, of course, for us over at First Gen.

Kevin, is there a cooler spot than ours that you have a piece

at this weekend? No there's no cooler spot than

than than yours or hanging out with you guys at all.

But do look for myself also on in the money media.

I got to a nice betting strategy way of you know way of thinking

through how to go for a big score in the pick five up at

Saratoga contrarian thinking and just really trying to build for

the you know $100,000 type of ticket that will make your make

your year. So in the money media, you can

find that if you sign up for the emails, it'll come through

straight to your inbox. How about that?

All right, Well, he's Kevin Kilroy, First Gen.

Sports at Trust Your Luck on Twitter or X or whatever the

bleep it's called now. All right, Kevin, we appreciate

the time. Good luck tomorrow, man.

Good. Luck, Kevin.

Good hang with you. Talk to you later.

All right. Kevin Kilroy.

All right, buddy. All right.

K the Kentucky HBPA. We thank them.

Kentucky Downs Preview day tomorrow.

And then of course the pucker up on Sunday.

Great weekend of racing over at the pee patch.

And I'm you know what? I'm not able to call it pee

patch anymore. Man.

I I if if your smallest. If your smallest Dan, I'm, I'm

sorry, but if you have a day with 9 races and your smallest

purse is 70 grand, you're not the pee patch anymore.

Well, I, I don't know, look at the infield, look at the

infield, Louie, what's growing, what's growing.

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