KY Racing Spotlight for 8/9/2024

Louie (@RadioLouie) welcome Trainer Bret Calhoun to the KY Racing Spotlight on ESPN Louisville.

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Just all kinds of great stuff over there.

The articles, the stories, just the photographs, the interviews.

Great, great job done by the folks over at the HBPA helping

you get to know the people that make racing go here in the

Commonwealth. We'll talk to one of those

people today. His name is Brett Calhoun, he's

a trainer. He's got a bunch of horses in

this weekend as part of Ellis Parks.

Big Sunday action, man. Just a huge.

Set of races this weekend including the Cowboy Jones, the

Ellis Park Derby, of course, the Debutante and the Oaks and man,

that's that groupie doll man he's all set up that late pick

six at Ellis Park for just a fantastic day of racing at.

The P patch some cooler temperatures that we're used to

in August, so should be a really, really fine day of

racing and one the horses all really appreciate getting a

little bit of a break from this really, really hot.

Heat that we've had here locally in the Ohio Valley.

But first, let's get to and, and look, we'll look at some of

those races to close this show. But first, let's get to what

happened last weekend as we talk more and more about Breeders'

Cup and and look, there are really two seasons nationally,

at least within horse racing. And the first one leads up to a

race here in town in the Kentucky Derby, and that's the

Derby trail, the Oaks trail almost secondarily.

And, and, and frankly, just looking at the numbers of all

the work I've done, you know, the last five years and doing

this, you put Derby on something people are going to listen.

You put Oaks on something less. It is what it is.

And so really leading into Derby and that Derby weekend, right,

all the turf races, whether it be, you know, that wood fur,

that that turf mile, the American turf, what have you,

the Oaks, the races on that day, the Churchill Downs, the La

Troy. And those.

Sorts of races really seem a lot like what?

Like the Breeders Cup six months later in November and that first

Friday, Saturday in November at Del Mar this year and we're

getting into those qualifying races, including in the Whitney

last week. We get Arthur's ride goes ahead

and gets a spot of the Beaters Breeders' Cup Classic.

Excuse me for trainer Belmont, who had never won the Whitney

before, which is always a little surprising when we hear a name

like Belmont at first time Whitney winner.

This is a horse we talked about last week on a lot of our shows

as one that might jump up and surprise.

Belmont's been doing exactly this this year.

He did it in the Ohio Derby and now he turns around and he does

it in a grade one in the Whitney at Saratoga.

And it made me wonder like, what are we looking at as far as this

division of the older dirt males?

Because we're going to see the return of Saudi Crown stateside

at Ellis Park this weekend in that Cowboy Jones.

And of course, Saudi Crown coming back on, ironically, for

running in the Arabian Peninsula was really, really great at the

end of last year. And he's going to come back this

this year, Like I said, race 5:00 on Sunday.

And you're going to look at this last couple of performances and

I think we forget he's right there with us.

But Tesoro, who bought, you know, and both of them getting

rundown by senior Abuscador in that Saudi Cup at $20 million

Race now, Saudi crown. I don't think it's an accident

that this horse is going to be running in Henderson.

I think they wanted a softer spot.

I think they wanted something a little bit easier first time

back. So often we watch horses come

back from those runs in the Arabian Peninsula and they're

just not ready. Whatever it is, that travel is

just so different. It's so demanding.

It takes so much out of them. As someone who's been to Europe

a couple of times, I could attest that flight, it takes you

a little bit to get your feet back under you once you're back

stateside. I'm sure horses are no are no

different. But he's back, of course.

He started the year winning the Louisiana, the Grade 3 after

running in the Breeders Cup Classic, a disappointing finish

in that Breeders' Cup Classic. Nobody frankly, was beating

White a barrio that day. But before that, of course, he

had won the Pennsylvania Derby in a good second in both the

Dwyer at Belmont and then of course in sloppy go in the Jim

Dandy behind a little horse named Forte last year.

Remember him? But Saudi crowds only run nine

times in his life. He's won almost $3,000,000.

It purses. He's the kind of horse that,

frankly, if you owned them, it's dream horse, horse of a

lifetime. Where does he rank as far as

we're concerned for this Breeders' Cup Classic field,

Arthur's ride, It's the best buyer of any horse in the

division this year, 111 at Saratoga.

Just gaudy buyers back-to-back. You have seen your booze.

Codore, who we just mentioned, won that Saudi Cup.

He's third in the Dubai World Cup.

Pet O'Brien will be his next race out in California.

And it's interesting to watch because in that Group 2's

National Treasure, who got, frankly, completely bested by

Arthur's ride and that Whitney. Are we going to blame the track

conditions that day? I'm not sure that that's the

best way to go. And then of course, we have to

talk about those horses that have run well at Churchill

Downs, whether it be a Kings Barnes who won the Stephen

Foster is a Pyrite who had won run well in the Pimlico Special

in one come back and run second in the.

Foster is that horse. Right there with this group, I

think he I think he can be. How good is Tappa Trice?

How good is white a barrio? How good is white a barrio?

I really don't know. The move back to Safi Joseph

Junior's barn, I simply don't know.

And then the wild card of all wild cards is someone that we

talked to on the show and Doug Collins and I asked him, hey,

Doug, are you going to run this horse in the Breeders Cup class?

He said, I don't know, we're going to keep picking our spots.

And he goes ahead and he wins again at Saratoga.

He runs a 109 speed figure. And at those longer distances,

frankly, there's just no catching him.

He's just better. He may be the.

Best dirt marathoner we've had the last. 50 years in North

America and I'm not exaggerating, but connects

shortened it up frankly and go the classic.

Distance at Ted Furlogs. It doesn't seem to be an issue

for him at all. For that son of Not this time.

Is that something that he can do?

Can he make that category, you know, that division, excuse me,

even more interesting in the Breeders Cup Classic?

I'm just not sure. And then you have the clouded

clouded. Three-year old class and we're

we're stuck asking ourselves how good is this class?

How good is a Dornick who wins the the Belmont wins the

Haskell? You love how he runs, you love

how he competes. But is he the kind of horse that

could jump up as a three-year old to win the Breeders Cup

Classic? He'll run in the traverse.

I think we'll know a lot. He wins the traverse.

I mean, goodness gracious, not only is he 3 year old of the

year, it's going to be pushing for Horse of the year.

How good is fierceness with those connections?

If he's healthy at all, he'll be there.

He should be got back on track in the gym, Daddy.

I don't think he looked perfect, but if he runs that race again

and the traverse frankly probably wins.

And Sierra Leone, My goodness, what do we even possibly do with

this horse? But that.

Division for those older horses doesn't seem too terribly strong

and it's why I think Saudi Crown returning this weekend on Sunday

at Ellis Park is such an interesting story.

If Arthur's ride could be so far the best in the Whitney, why

can't Saudi Crown become that next horse?

That next 4 year old that goes ahead, gets here, improves, runs

again once more before the the Classic and it's good to go in

November at Del Mar. Of course you could do that, but

we'll have to find out on Sunday when he does run in that Cowboy

Jones. The other big race of the

weekend, I thought that was most interesting was a Dare Manor.

She wins the Grade 1 Hirsch at Del Mar, where the Breeders Cup

will be. Gets a spot.

In that Breeders' Cup Distaff, and she did it frankly with ease

against a field with Silla in it.

Silla graded winner, had to race her way.

There's no excuses for Silla. She had everything she wanted

the entire way that a dare meritor went ahead and put her

away. So real question about who's at

the top of that division. I would put a dare manner

squarely within the top three. I think Silla, frankly, still a

top five kind of horse despite the fact that she hasn't run a

huge buyer number. Idiomatic is still idiomatic.

She's a gamer. She's great.

We saw her again in On Haskell Day in that Molly Pitcher.

She wins that race. She'll run in the personal

answer next, and I do wonder if we think it's idiomatic.

Adair Manor and everyone else in that group.

Is Zilla now a lesser than is randomized, able to turn it

around and do it again at a place that isn't Saratoga?

Can she ship to California and win that race?

I'm just not sure. But if idiomatic or a dare Manor

1 the Distaff, would we be surprised?

The answer is absolutely not. Of course not.

If idiomatic, you go ahead and do it again.

Goodness gracious. We're talking about her in a

very different way that we have in the past, but in that group.

Then comes Torpedo Anna and of course since we've been talking

on this show this summer, the decision is made that she'll be

running in the traverse and look, she's the best 3 year old

going right now. We'll talk about another one

that I think is interesting and is another one that will make

the Breeders Cup even more interesting in a second, but

it's Torpedo Anna that really holds the key to how good this

distaff field can be. I think it's worth mentioning

that you know her best buyers in 99.

She's yet to run a 100 buyer. I think some of the comparisons

to other three-year old fillies are a little premature, but to

be fair, I had Brad Cox on Rabo and Co a couple weeks ago and he

compared her to Monomoy Girl, or at least the best sense, he

said. That's high praise from a guy

who kind of knows what he's doing.

Huh, How good is this Philly? It's a great question.

I think we know she's really great.

She's dominant in the three-year old division.

I was on this air. I'm on, I'm on record.

I don't I would not run her in this traverse.

That's not what I would be doing.

I appreciate what Kenny Mcpeek is doing, making her available

to the public to visit, to see, to watch train, etcetera.

Being very public with this Philly, how he's you know how

he's training her. Heck on on Thursday morning, he

puts up a tweet. Hey, we saw the weather coming

and we decided to just move her her training up.

She was ready to go. I made the decision at 4:30 in

the morning, he said. Oh, Oh dear, listener, how many

times have you said I made the decision at 4:30 in the morning

and it was a good one? Probably not too often, but it's

not an interesting, unfortunately, it's not an

interesting group because I think we're really down to just

a few to turn dirt. You know, feeble.

Horses that could really sort of start to dominate and we're

stuck with and stuck with we're blessed with I should say

idiomatic a dare Manor maybe randomized Silla for sure in

that next group. And then however good Thorpedo

Anna is and I think so little of this three-year old group as be

as far as being way at the top of three-year old groups that

we're used to that if she wins the.

Traverse I still might not put. Her at the top of that Distaff

division. I think we'll.

Know everything we need to when we get to Del Mar and she runs

against those other Phillies and mares in the Distaff itself.

That's what we'll really know about Thorpedo Anna, but it was

the other three-year old that really caught my eye this past

weekend. Her name is Ways and Means and

she now has a one O 4 buyer this year running a Sprint race.

If you're interested, None of the dirt males that are three

years old this year have run a one O 4.

None of them. The highest on record right now

is Dornak. He ran A1O3 in the Haskell.

But we have Vava, who's also run a one O 3 as a sprinter here.

She's a grade one Sprint winner. She's hit the board her last

eight starts, just a really, really fantastic sprinter.

What if? It's Ways and Means that

actually not Thor Pedo Anna is the three-year old Philly who

wins the Breeders Cup race this year.

Would we be so surprised if she's the one who wins that

Philly and Mayor Dirt Sprint? I wouldn't be.

I don't think you would be either, but I think it's

something to watch. What if it is Ways and Means and

not Torpedo Anna? That ends up being the best of

the three-year old Phillies on dirt to this point?

It's Torpedo Anna's division to lose and it it's not close.

And I understand it might be over already, because when you

win the Oaks and you win the acorn, that's it.

Those are the races. Those are the two.

That we care about with three-year old Phillies, and

frankly we should. But what if it is Ways and Means

that comes up with another couple of good wins?

She now has two big wins in Saratoga, ships out to Del Mar

where she wins that race. What if she looks impressive

doing it? I just a chance that she ends up

being 3 old filly of the year. We're not there yet.

We'll get there. We got plenty.

Of time the rest of this year, but I just thought it was

interesting. It was interesting to watch her

run. I thought she looked really good

in the test and I think there are obvious spots where she can

get better and I think there are obvious spots where she will get

better. In the next segment we'll talk

like I mentioned with trader Brett Calhoun.

He's got several in this weekend at Ellis Park.

We'll talk about all of his starters there.

We'll leave it talk and you have to, you have to forgive a man

who gets to do this for a living, who gets to watch these

horses up close, who gets to follow them.

But man, I gushed a little on by my standards.

What a cool horse. Previously trained of course by

Brett Calhoun getting ready for his prodigy to start running and

and Brett sounded very excited about them as well.

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Interviews, videos, photos, great articles from around the

Commonwealth. And one of the people that helps

make the Commonwealth go in racing is trainer Brett Calhoun

joins us here on the show. Brad, good afternoon.

How are you doing today? Everything is great.

Good afternoon. It's great to have you.

You've trained. You trained one of my very

favorite horses of all time. We'll get into that later on,

but anytime I get a chance to talk with a trainer, I always

ask how the heck did you did you get into horse training?

Well, interesting, I wasn't born into the business necessarily I

I got interested in in horses as a a young kid just liked horses.

So when I was about 10-11 years old, kept begging my parents to

buy a horse. They were, they, we didn't have

para mutual wagering in the state of Texas at the time

growing up, but Arkansas and Louisiana.

So they used to be fans go to the horse races and I kept

begging them to buy a horse. So instead of just buying a

pony, they bought some racing quarter horses at the time.

And it just grew from there. And I, I stayed very enamored

with the sport and business and it's just, it just kind of grew

from there. It's, it's a strange thing to

get into if you're not from a horse racing family, is it not?

Because it's just the lifestyle and, and you know, the

connections and those kinds of things.

Who was your first? Who was the first person who who

really helped you get to a spot where you could be where you

thought, you know what, I'm actually going to make it.

Well, you know, I honestly, I think I did things kind of the

the wrong way. I wouldn't really advise it.

I I kind of did it self thought went advised by on my own.

I watched and studied a lot of top guys back then.

I started actually in Louisiana. A lot of top guys back there

were like Frankie Brothers, guys like that.

It was a lot of top trainers in that area back then that

commuted between Louisiana and Kentucky.

Bobby Barnett, Frankie Brothers, those guys right there.

I watched a lot and that's kind of how I took a lot of stuff

from them way back. You know, another, you know, we,

we were lucky we got talked to talk to Wade Catalano 2 weeks

ago after his three thousandth win.

Obviously you've been there already, that Louisiana thing.

What do you think it is about Louisiana?

And I'm not, I'm sort of just asking a general question 'cause

I'm not sure that there's a definitive answer about this.

But what is it about Louisiana that makes such good horse

people? Well, I, I heard that question

after Brian Hernandez the other day about the jockeys as well.

And you know, I, I really think that and Brian said this and I

kind of think that, you know, generally horse people and are,

are very tough people and very hard working.

I think, I mean, that's just the way it is.

You either work extremely hard and dive into it and work a long

hour, seven days a week, or you don't survive in it and you just

get dedicated to it. It becomes a way of life for

you. And, and I think, you know,

other people aren't quite used to that lifestyle.

Yeah. So in other words, you know the.

How people come. Up in Louisiana is a little more

made for horse racing than other parts of the country, I guess.

I'm thinking the work ethic from a young age, yeah.

OK, Yeah, interesting. All right, well, he's Brett

Calhoun. He's joining us here on the

Kentucky Racing Spotlight. We're presented by the Kentucky

HBPA. You've got a couple in this

weekend, but let's let's go on the way back machine you've

been. Look, you've trained.

You've trained a Breeders' Cup winner.

Great, great. You know, fortune for you that

that happened to be under the Twin Spires as well here across

the street at Churchill Downs. But by my standards, can we talk

about this horse? I'm totally going to hijack this

show because I love this horse. What a great what a great

freaking horse he was great two winner, of course, one of

several grade twos in his career.

Man, just talk about him, what he meant to you and do you think

he'll, you know, do do you think he'll go on?

Will he have progeny that are up to his standard, if you will?

Well, he was definitely one of my all time favorites as well.

He was only a grade 2 winner, but he was definitely a grade

one horse. Tremendous talent, probably the

best training horse as far as just training in the mornings

that I've ever had. He'd make the hair on the back

of your neck stand up, did things so impressively and so

easily in the mornings. I think he could achieved even

greater things. We we had a foot issue that

lingered on. We fought 1/4 crack with him

that Hanford him for a while. And other than that, he would

have been multiple grade one winner, I believe.

As far as his progeny, I'm very, very optimistic.

I've seen, you know, 5 to 10 babies of his and I was just

blown away and had tremendous hind leg on them and he really

had stamped them and some really good individuals, you know, the

sales. Just wrapped up at Saratoga and

I know in your job you have to sort of pay attention to those

things. You've also got runners all week

at Evangeline Downs. How much do you have to pay

attention? Do you feel to the sales

themselves? You know it's.

It's very, very important. I mean, who's buying and, and

what horse, what, what yearlings are are moving forward and, and

being very well received and who's not and who's under the

radar. And you know, because you know,

we have to, we buy on a budget pretty much since we're kind of

trying to buy on a budget and kind of come under the radar

with some of these horses. So it's very important for me to

watch the sales and look at a lot of different horses you

have. By my standards, he runs in the

2019 Kentucky Derby, and that's obviously an infamous Derby.

Now, I'll ask you about that part later, but what was it like

having him in the Derby in the starting gate?

What was that week like for Brett Calhoun?

Well, it's. Intense.

It was nerve wracking and even, like I said, to add little

intensity to it. You know, in this game, nothing

ever go ever goes just perfect. So we were dealing with a foot

and we had we had a core crack and we patched on it.

And so it was, you know, it made it even more nerve wracking.

But honestly, it was very nerve wracking because I really

thought we were alive. He was kind of the wise guy

horse going to that race and I really, really thought we had a

big chance. As you remember the the clouds

opened up and it became a unbelievable rain when we walked

over. That day felt like it was up to

my knees and I think between that and the foot just kind of

handled us a little bit. But it was a great week.

But it was a very nerve wracking week and even more so because I

really thought we had a chance, you know?

It's an interesting Derby for more than just the DQ of Maximum

Security, but I think the depth of that field is a little

underrated, frankly. Long range.

Toddy finishes 18th in that race.

You got Roadster in that field. Tax, Modi Express, Pacoma, all

of those horses finished behind you at 11th.

I mean, what a really looking back, what a deep Derby field

that was. Yeah, good.

Good group of horses and that makes it even more interesting

to to for me because the fact that I had a lot of confidence

going there. Oh, that's.

Fantastic. But the, the DQ does happen.

What goes on for you? Because I'm sure you're more

worried. Hey, how did my guy come out?

How's he feeling? Is he OK?

You know, because he's gone the longest distance he's ever run.

He's three years old, right? He's, he's been off for six

weeks between the Louisiana Derby and the, and the Kentucky

Derby. So you're, I'm, I'm sure laser

focused on by my standards, but how much of the, of the scuffle,

you know, the kerfuffle, if you will, around the DQ were you

aware of at the time? I was.

Pretty much oblivious to it until later on.

You know, like you said, I was pretty much focused on what was

going on with my horse. You know, obviously you start

seeing the replay, you start getting involved in watching

more and more and more of it. It wasn't until that time, so I

really started paying attention to it as far as the race being

run live, I was pretty much oblivious to what was going on

there. You.

Are, you know, a mainstay for sure on the Kentucky circuit and

run a ton of horses in Louisiana as well.

With the evolution of the, you know and you know, I, I think

there are a lot of people who want to immediately get down on

horse racing, especially as it moves away from the coasts and

seems to be establishing a, a more significant foothold in the

middle of the country, no more so than in the state of

Kentucky. How much are you enjoying the

Kentucky circuit as it's currently constructed?

You know, obviously we're at Ellis now.

We're going to go do that Kentucky Downs thing like we do

every year in a couple of weeks. Then obviously Churchill,

Keeneland, etcetera to back to Turfway in the winter.

How are you taking in the circuit?

Do you enjoy it? Is it challenging both?

What does Brett Calhoun say he takes the job.

Well. Kentucky is definitely the place

to be. Obviously, it's always been the

greatest breeding operation in the in the countries, not the

world. And now it is the best breeding

and racing. That is the very much very

positive part of it. I guess if there's any one

negative to take out of it, which is not is the competitive

nature of it. I mean, it's extremely

competitive. It's the best horses in the

country by Far East to West Coast, North and South field

sizes. I mean, you know, Saratoga,

Saratoga, King of King and they're all tough.

Don't get me wrong. Used to go to Saratoga before

the purse structure got what it is in Kentucky and those fields

were unbelievably chopping. Don't I'm not making a lot of

it. They're still very tough.

But if you look up and see how the horses from Kentucky are

doing up there, it just shows how competitive these races

become in Kentucky. Do you do you think the?

That that has affected the quality of of Saratoga, that

that it's just worth it for some of these horses to just stay at

Ellis because they're running for 71 and 74,000, that kind of

thing. Absolutely.

I think it's, it's two things. I think it's the fact that

there's enough money to stay around here and the expense of

going to Saratoga has gotten so astronomical that everybody's

going, you know, why do I go up there?

I can take one and run it up there if I need to.

I can ship and run. But no real reason to go up

there and stable anymore unless you're forced by a couple of

owners. And I think you're seeing that

more and more and more. And that's what I understand

that they're struggling on a daily basis to feel races there

do. You, you know, and we're seeing.

More of this we talked to Danny Gargan a couple times this year.

He's having a year that guy and, you know, we talked to him a

couple times and even he, you know, he is a Saratoga guy

through and through. And he has said multiple times

on this show and and on my my Daily Show, just he, he would be

an idiot not to have a string in Kentucky.

It's an interesting thing to hear, Brett.

I mean, you know, the folks to admit because, you know, you

know, I'm in my early 40s, people, you know, 20 years older

than me, let's say, who have really followed the sport.

They still think of, you know, Southern California and New York

as the main, you know, poles of North American racing.

But really this move to Kentucky, it's been interesting.

And to hear guys like Danny Gargan talk about it that way,

it caught me off guard a little bit.

Well. I think the proof is you, you

can't hardly find stabling anywhere in the state of

Kentucky. I mean, they've moved from every

other part of the country to come here and more of them

trying to come here. I, I'm going to, you're going to

see a lot more people move out of California soon.

I think they've all started experimenting with smaller

stables and I think they're going to start coming here with

more and more. I think some people are getting

tired of the overhead in New York and and the hassles of

staying in New York year round. So I think you're going to pick

up some of those people. So it's only going to get better

and better here before we. Get to your horses running this

coming weekend. You had Louisiana Jess when the

young futurity down at Evangeline this weekend and

Brian Hernandez junior gets to ride there.

And that's where the quotes you were talking about earlier in

this interview came from, where he was talking about, you know,

being a Louisiana kid, getting to do those things before we get

into the rest of your entries for the weekend down in Ellis

Park. As such, especially you did have

Louisiana Jess when the the futurity in the shine young at

Evangeline Downs. What does it mean to win with a

horse named Louisiana Jess with a Louisiana bass jockey?

You know, you mentioned Brian Hernandez, junior and those

those quotes about Louisiana about the the horse.

Culture of Louisiana what? Did it mean to win that futurity

this past weekend at Evangeline? It was a lot of.

Fun. We all went down there

interesting we when we broke his mate in there at Churchill.

I mentioned this race to Brian, but you know, he's got a lot

going on. And, and so I looked up the the

weekend of that race and it was a big prep race for Kentucky

Downs over at Ellis. So there's a lot of big races on

Saturday. So I didn't even bother to

discuss it with Brian any farther.

I just set up a local rider down there and I, I walk up to the

gap one morning, 5:30 first set and Brian's waiting on me.

He said, hey, I want to go ride that horse.

I'm like, OK. And I guess it was just a kind

of a bucket list thing for him. He liked the horse, obviously,

obviously a bucket list thing. So they all went down there and

they were fortunate enough to win.

The horse ran great and it was a lot of fun.

We'll get into your. Entries in a second.

You know, I had this moment, Brett, the the morning of Derby,

I'm doing ATV for LKY or something and Brian's there.

Of course he had won the Oaks and perfect ride on Torpedo Anna

and all that stuff. And that was really frankly

before we knew Thorpedo Anna was Thorpedo Anna, right?

Like, you know, she's, you know, backed it up a couple times, but

he was. So locked in man he was.

So locked in and shame on because I didn't, I didn't take

that as a cue that he was ready for back-to-back days.

Would you see that kind of stuff either for Kenny Mcpeak or Brian

winning the Oaks, winning the Derby, back-to-back days?

What goes through your mind? Phenomenal, I mean just

unbelievable achievement. I mean that's a that's a one in

a million situation happy for both of them.

It's just that's not something that happens every day, every

year, or once ever 100 years before we.

Talk the horses this week and we're talking with Brett Calhoun

by the way, trainer of one of my very favorite horses by my

standards. Got to talk about him a little

bit. That's a nice thing for me to a

little feather the. Cat for me.

You know, Mitch Morel, Jaime Torres, Christian Torres, Bryan

Hernandez Junior, these are the guys riding at Ellis Park right

now. And I think, you know, that's

kind of the giveaway in my mind too, not just which horses are

staying in Kentucky or coming to Kentucky that these guys see the

real opportunity. These are guys that are winning

riding titles or, you know, are on the tops of the list of

places like Oakland, other spots, you know, in a Christian

Torres or a Jaime Torres who wins the the Preakness this

year. And, and boy, that guy seems

he's he's on an absolute tear right now.

But just seeing these guys in that jockey colony and in Ellis,

for example, I think is a real testament to how good the the

circuit is right now. I, I agree, I think the purse

structure, you know, the number of horses, the field size gives

them a good selection of horses to ride.

I, I think it's difficult for some of the jocks in the

summertime, but you can tell it that the purse structure of that

really motivates them because they're running three days a

week. So they're kind of picking and

choosing and hunting other places to run during other parts

of the week. There's a lot of traveling

involved for them and and that group you just named, they're

all doing a lot of traveling, moving around, but that just

shows you the strength of for the purse structure at at Saint

Ellis Park for summer racing. Speaking of.

Purses a horse that is entered this weekend.

Who's won some nice ones is Mr. Wireless.

Mr. Wireless, of course, an Indiana Derby Grade 3 W Virginia

grade 3 winner has won the Schaefer Memorial.

Almost did it again this year. You've got him up in the Cowboy

Jones this weekend. How is he training?

How does he look? And what what are sort of your

expectations? I mean, is this is, is this a

race you expect to win? Well.

It's a very good race. I mean, they Ellis has done a

great job putting a great card together.

These are very competitive races.

This could easily be a, a several $100,000 race on another

card somewhere else when you get the likes of of a Saudi crown in

there. And, and the rest of the group

is very solid too. You know, we're trying to pick

the best spots for Mr. Wireless. He's a six year old gilding.

He doesn't have a lot to prove. We're just trying to keep him in

good form and and win races with him.

Obviously just came up a little tougher than I would have hoped.

I had the option of going to the Governor's Cup in West Virginia

and opted to stay home with him and stay local.

I do look for him to run a big race.

He ran really good last time. I really thought at any point

down the lane he was going to go by the horse that won it and he

just took your hat to injunction.

He dug in and stayed on that day.

We ran a winning race and just didn't win that day, but he's

come out of it good. Train forwardly for this race

and look for a big race out of him and just hopefully we get

lucky enough to come on top. You know, there's a solid, solid

group. Obviously study crown comes in

highly touted. You know, we're catching him off

a trip back from Saudi and and Dubai and maybe we maybe we have

a a little advantage over in this time.

Yeah, that little. Arabian Peninsula bump in your

favor. That would be OK, wouldn't it?

Lots of, I mean, that field is loaded with horses that people

will know the names of. So many of them, so many horses

that are either alums or winners of of regional derbies or

Kentucky derbies. I mean, just incredible group in

that field. The one mile shoot at Ellis, do

you treat it like A2 turn race or do you treat it like A1 turn

race with your horses? It does seem like it plays a

little bit more like two turns as opposed to one.

It doesn't seem like you get the crazy fractions a lot of time.

I still think obviously speed does well, but I don't think

it's just like running a one turn.

I do think it knocks the fractions down a little bit.

Trader Brad Calhoun with us on the same cards you will have

stilettos running and that'll be in the debutante.

So in the two year old stakes there for the Phillies in race

8. Tell us a little bit about her

well. Obviously she's pretty unproven

as a lot of them in there are. She's a a young developing

Philly. One race she has not.

We don't really know what she faced down there in Texas.

The rest of the fields face much tougher.

The good thing about what she did is she did it very

impressively. She did it without much effort

or being asked to do too much and all the speed figures came

back very good. So that gives some high hopes

for. We really liked her a lot.

We liked her a lot before her first race.

I guess the only negative is we don't really know exactly what

she is because she hasn't faced the caliber horses that are

going to be running in that race.

Yeah, 5. Furlongs, if people don't don't

know, we're moving up to seven here in this race.

And she broke her maiden net Lone Star by 16 3/4 legs on the

final count. Have you ever had another debut

winner of that kind of that kind of margin?

I sure. Can't remember I was going to

say. Man, you've won almost 4000

races. We're talking 16 legs, Brad.

I mean, that's unbelievable. It is and and like I said, the

way she did it, what was impressive, she was never asked

to do anything at any part of the race and was being eased up.

The last part of it. Betty Ree Wise, she shouldn't

have any problems stepping out the extra distance.

Matter of fact, I think you could help her.

Obviously she's got pretty good speed.

There's a lot of positives. She seems like she's on the

improve physically. She continues to grow up and go

the right direction, so we're optimistic going in.

We know it's a tall, tall order, but we we think she's up to it.

I. I mean, on paper, she looks as

good as anyone for sure. And you get you get Brian in the

in the saddle. So hopefully she runs her race

and you know, looks like she did it.

Lone Star. I don't know if she'll win this

one by 16 likes, but we'll see. Only one way to find out.

Yeah, you'll take it, I'm sure. The groupie doll is your is your

last horse in Hidden Connection. Another cool horse here in

Hidden Connection will be in race 10 again over that mile

turn in the two hole. Christian Torres gets the mount

here. What do you what do you think of

Christian Torres as a jock? What do you think his strength

is? Is he gonna get better?

Is he is he coming into his full professional form?

What would you say about him? Well, he's a great rider.

You know, I was around Christian a few years ago when he first

kind of came on the scene in Texas and he started doing very,

very well and that let him into Oak Lawn.

He's had a couple of tremendous safety record setting meets over

there, the last couple of winners and he's just gotten

better and better and better. He seems to ride a, you know, a

smart race all the time. He, you know, he just does

everything right, seems to, so you know, got a lot of

confidence in in him. He's a really good guy and a

really good rider and we have a lot of confidence in him.

Hidden connection. She's five years old, ran a good

third last out in at Indiana Grand at a horseshoe there, But

after running in the Shawnee, I thought she looked really good

in the double dog dare, running second to Raging Sea ahead of

Silla. By the way, who just went?

Up. Unbelievable.

Do you think she could recapture some of that double dog dare for

him this weekend? I sure hope.

So obviously she's she's five, she might not be quite as good

as she she once was. She still brings it.

I think her last race the pace might have got her a little bit.

She went pretty quick fractions. I think it might have got her a

little bit. I think a couple of years ago

she might have just kept on going.

But I think it did hinder a little bit.

Like you said, the devil dog there was impressive race.

You know, we she, she looks and is doing as good as as she ever

has. Even though she's a little

older, I don't think we'd still be running her if we didn't have

confidence in her. I think that any, any one of

these races at any given time, she could pop up and win one of

them all right. I'll get you out of here on this

and we've already talked about her, but I want to go back to

Stilettos. When is it with a 2 year old

that you feel like you you have a sense of that horse is going

to be great at 3IN other words, it, let's say Stilettos

continues to develop and she gets better, you know, and and

her breeding, like you mentioned, she's an upstart

daughter of upstart, you know, so it makes sense that she would

be able to stretch out, go more distance like you mentioned.

When you start thinking Oaks trail or something with a 2 year

old filly, when does that usually start?

Or is it purely a horse by horse basis?

Well, it's definitely a horse by horse basis.

I think when we start with them, obviously we have we try to have

some set mindset of what this horse is.

We try to let them take us there.

But you also have to put in the factors of pedigree, body style,

things like that. You you have those kind of

mindset as you go forward and then you let the horse take you

along and see how they're doing the mornings.

You know, some of them I hate use the term, but it's a, it's a

true term. Cheap speed.

They're they're shorter, shorter couple bodies.

They're quicker, fast, more mature, early, you know, you

kind of got in your mind they're, they're probably going

to be early and fast and not go on.

Then you have some of the longer, leggier individuals that

when they, they train, they just keep going and going and going.

You never seem to hit the bottom of them.

And that's when you start thinking about the bigger,

longer races. He's Brett Calhoun, last one.

I always ask trainers what's more important, your training or

having a great horse? A great horse, no doubt.

That's 100. Percent the same exact answer,

Brett. We really appreciate it.

Again, thank you for training by my standards so well.

I really enjoyed it so much. But we'll catch up down the

line. I'm sure I'll run into you at

Alice or at Kentucky Downs down the line.

But again, thanks for joining us here on the Kentucky Racing

Spotlight. All right.

Thank you. Appreciate it.

Thanks, Brett. It was.

Brett Calhoun, he's got three in this weekend, just on Sunday.

Big card there. We will have a preview show on

the Horse Racing Happy Hour Friday afternoon, 2:00 ahead of

those races. We will preview all five of the

stakes races on that day. Again, he's got Mr. Wireless in

the Cowboy Jones. He's got stilettos in the

Debutante and he's got hidden connection in the groupie doll.

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thing on the air as well man a pick six late in the card how

about this races five through 10 at Ellis park on Sunday, a huge

huge day of racing including that cowboy Jones and the Ellis

park Derby. Both of those will be run over

that mile course on the dirt there.

Like we we had a bunch of turf races last weekend, Saturday,

Sunday for Kentucky Dolls preview weekend, we're going to

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He's out on the West Coast. He'll help me.

He'll help me walk through all six of those races as well.

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Down there in. Henderson this weekend and like

you just heard from Brett Calhoun, he's got one in the

Cowboy Jones. It'll be race 5.

It'll start this pick six sequence, $150,000 of the Kitty.

We're going a mile, like I said, over that 1 1/2 Turner

essentially at Ellis Park. I asked him about that as well.

Mr. Wireless is in here. Very cool horse by the way.

Has won at some really, really cool spots in his career before

Churchill Downs over that one mile course.

He is 2 for three lifetime. He'll be in the two hole for

this race was the favorite last time in the shape from memorial

listed stakes up there at Indiana coming off about a

two-month layoff after the Churchill Downs.

The grade one that he ran in before that and and look didn't

have it that day. Injunction who's in this race as

well was simply just better. But this race will be about

Saudi crown. And let's be very clear about

something. If Saudi crown.

Runs to. 70% of his ability he wins this race.

And I'm not at all. Sure that it's especially close.

Now the good. News for a guy like Brad Cox.

Is he can, he can slide, he can go to his ownership group and

say, hey, I'm Brad Cox, we're running this horse at Ellis

Park. That's.

What we're doing and they go no problem, great, go run at Ellis

Park. But to also be fair, if this

were a West Coast horse and he were running in a grade.

Three, the purse would be $50,000 less, so it's not as

though he's putting the horse in a spot where there isn't a

decent paycheck. I mentioned it in the opening

segment of this show. Do we see the Saudi crown that

we saw, for example, in that Pennsylvania Derby where he gets

out? Front stays out front.

Or do we get some other version of him?

And I do wonder what we'll see on Saturday, on Sunday, excuse

me, will he be ready to go? My sense is this is not an

accidental placing by Brad Cox. I think he wants this horse to

win, get a little bit of confidence after losing the

Saudi Cup and being nowhere to be found in the good Dolphin

Mile, the Grade 2IN Medan. I think this horse really needs

the race. I think it needs to win a race.

He talked about this ahead of the Ohio.

Derby with catching Freedom? Will it be Saudi?

Crown that that bounces back. I say yes, it'll be a single to

stick kick off the pick six for me.

Injunction isn't here. As I mentioned the 8 horse.

Cool one in. Here as well.

Ray's Kane is in. Here ran in the Hanson last time

out at Churchill Downs ran third behind Caliostro and Tumba Rumba

a good third. Frankly, this horse has run four

times this year, a couple of thirds.

If you're filling out your exactus trifectas, make sure you

include the 10 Raising Kane in those tickets as well.

Race 6 is the Ellis Park Derby. We're going a mile again on the

dirt course there at Ellis Park, $275,000 in here.

Some horses that you've almost certainly heard a horse that was

right there was seized the Gray in the Pat Day mile in who day

will be the one horse here, Brian Hernandez on the ride for

a bunch of really good mouths on Sunday.

I think in this race you're going to have to grab a couple

to fill out your tickets. This does start the late pick

five as well. You know who day coming out of

that? Matt Wynn where he was favored.

Society man made everyone look really average that day.

But it's a reminder to seize the great preakness winner running

against him loses by a length and a half.

Society Man was qualified for the Kentucky Derby.

Finishes 2 and a. Quarter lengths by 2 1/2 lengths

behind him in that Matt win at Churchill Downs over a mile and

a 16th get to shorten up a little bit here and I think

that'll really help this horse who day one for two lifetime at

the distance does have an 86 speed figure from that Pat Day

mile. And what an optional claimer at

the distance before. I think Brian Hernandez will get

the job done for this horse. Does he win?

I don't know, but he'll get a fair ride from Brian in this one

for a trader, Tommy Drury. And then most wanted.

'S in the two hole here. Brad Cox puts his horse in after

2 for two lifetime start. A late bloomer didn't run his

maiden race until A7 furlonger in June at Churchill Downs.

This is already his third start, so we're third in.

The. Form cycle with Most Wanted

Floral Giroux gets the mount here.

Now he and Hude are both going to be jockeying for the front

position in this race. I think both of them are going

to try to get to the front. I think with that mile shoot,

especially when you're on the inside like they are, you don't

want to get stuck. There's no reason to get stuck

going into that first half turd. If you will at Ellis Park.

So I think both of them are going to want to go.

And of course that opens up the question, who's the late speed

in this race? And frankly, I don't really see

any outside of native land. But this is a really unknown

sort of horse ran in the Peter Pan in May the week before.

Between Excuse me? The Derby and the Preakness on

May 11th at Aqueduct was nowhere to be.

Found off the track. Under Junior Alvarado comes back

in the Marine on the synthetic for Riley Mott up in Toronto at

Woodbine. Not sure what they want to do

with this horse and I'm not sure they know what he wants to do

either, but he seems to be the only speed late in this race.

The only other one that I can see is on the outside for Safi

Joseph. Junior Luis SAE is in to ride

for the day. He's been really good of late at

Saratoga. Could he get Catalytic to seven

here? Who won the carry better?

Excuse me? He was second in the carry back

by a head behind Real Macho, last out at Gulfstream Park at 7

furlongs. Will the stretch out help him?

I think it will. I'll put the seven on top of my

handicapping here in Race 6, the Ellis Park Derby with Catalytic,

because I think the stretch out for this alum of this year's

Kentucky Derby could be just what he is looking for.

We go to the 7th race. Which is the juvenile.

So now we're getting into the two year old races.

Obviously the Saratoga special happening this weekend up there

at Saratoga. The juvenile and the debutante

are happening at back-to-back races, the 7th and 8th races at

at Ellis Park. We've got a pretty big favorite

in here, the 9 to 5. Owen Almighty, who just ran

broke his maiden at the end of June at Churchill Downs toward

the end of that meet 83 buyer on the on his debut wasn't first

right away but did make a move early early on and then really

cleared everyone at the quarter pole looked really.

Really good in the. Stretch really comfortable under

Jose Ortiz. Obviously Jose going to be

riding at Colonial this weekend. So Christian Torres picks up

them out here. In my mind, not that much of AA

move in any kind of direction. Moving to Christian Torres here,

who knows the course really well and has hit the board in 34 of

his 76 runs so far this year. Oh and almighty to me,

absolutely. And include in the 7th furlong

juvenile race 7 at Ellis Park. Other horses in here that are

interesting coming out of the Sanford at Saratoga stretching

from six to seven furlongs here will be 3 echoes.

This horse has already run in the Tremont, which is a list of

stakes at Saratoga. That was on Belmont weekend ran

back at in the middle of July and the Sanford.

This is a bit of a quick turn around four weeks, not a month,

but four weeks for Steve Asmussen here.

His son will come in and ride on this one.

I don't love the move from Flavian Pratt to his son, so I'm

going to leave 3 echoes out of this one and think that Owen

Almighty has a better shot in here.

Politically Correct is your Bashford Manor winner.

It is sitting at 3:00 to 1:00 for for trainer Chris Davis and

for Louis Ayes again. And so I'll be looking for Louis

Ayes to have a big day on this card.

So let's use the seven and the 4IN race 7 to keep our ticket

rolling. In race eight, we're looking at

the debutant, obviously the two year old race 4 Phillies,

another $175,000, seven for longer on the dirt here and a

bunch of fun Phillies in this field on the outside to get

Christian Torres for Brendan Walsh, a horse that just broke

her maiden in American Women at Ellis Park. 7 furlongs in a

minute. 24. The fractions in that race

reasonable 2245 one ten and then she finishes up in 124.

One, frankly for fun but had to do some work, was in the third

spot for much of the race, gets to the top of the stretch and

upon asking from Christian Torres, who keeps them out here,

was able to kick. Away and win that race.

By open lengths by 2 1/2. David Cohen's in on an

interesting horse here for Larry Ravelli, who is on an

unbelievable tear right now. Trading overall, I have to find

the statistic that Marcus Hirsch put out from the DRF about his

recent unbelievable run of, of, of success in the last couple of

the last couple of races. But I think it's, yeah, 24 runs,

14 winners in his last 24 runs. And that's where we see she's a

funky drummer. David Cohen coming in.

He's been riding at Up Prairie Meadows and Hawthorne with this

horse Brooker. Maiden up at.

Hawthorne by 4 1/2 in a four and a half for a long race stretches

out to 5 1/2 in the in the Prairie Gold.

Lassie at in the black type over there at Prairie Meadows.

Wins again by open legs, 2 1/4 lengths.

How good is her competition been?

I'm going to guess not great. And so coming into this race,

though, with the fractions that she's been running, if she can

get loose on the lead, I think she'll be fine.

But there are other horses in here that have just as much

speed as her. But I'm going to include she's a

funky drummer just because Larry Ravelli right now simply isn't

missing. You heard Brett Calhoun talk

about Stiletto. She's in here for Brian

Hernandez. Broke her maiden it long at a

Lone Star. Excuse me, another horse that

it's really difficult to know another Philly here, how good

she is, but she's a daughter of flatter, excuse me, of upstart.

And so look, this is a horse that won't have any trouble

going to the 7 furlong. She was pulling away at the end

in her maiden race has been training really, really well at

Churchill Downs as well. And so I think she's an absolute

include as well. And rich city girls in here.

The three horse for Larry Ravelli, the other Ravelli, if

you will, for her out of Corrales.

The two of them, of course, hit together at 28%.

I think we'd be crazy to leave her out.

Then another Philly that seemed to really like the Ellis Park

surface over the mud was Missus Worldwide.

The two 8:00 to 1:00 in the morning line we get James Graham

here, who I think is having a sneaky decent meet at Ellis

Park. Lots 2nd place finishes,

unfortunately for him. But he's hitting the board half

the time that he has a mount that could make a lot of money

for your trainer, and I think it'll keep getting him a lot of

mounts. At Ellis Park as.

Well, could Missus Worldwide actually improve her Spire

speed? Figure was actually faster at

Churchill on a fast go. She'll have fast go on Sunday.

Will she be better at Ellis Park?

That is TBD for sure. And then the autumn at Oaks is

race nine. We get into that one.

It is 7 furlongs on the dirt, $175,000 here.

You'll know a bunch of the names in here.

Kentucky Oaks alum Tarifa, she's the winner of the Fairgrounds

Oaks. She won the racial Alexandra

before that. She's in the one hole for Brad

Cox. I think she'll be your favorite.

I think she's a deserved favorite. 3 for four this year.

Her only losses in the Kentucky Oaks?

So this might be a. Shot where she comes a little

bit off the layoff a little bit of time here and this is an

angle for him that is usually very, very good.

He wins a third of his races going from route to Sprint and I

think Tarifa will pick up right where she was in that Florida,

excuse me, the Fairgrounds Oaks, the Grade 2 down at fairgrounds

in New Orleans under Flavian Pratt gets for Al Giroux here,

which makes me think that. They're going to be pressing.

For the lead with this horse I tried to put it away pretty

early on. It'll be interesting to see if

she could do exactly that morning line maker otherwise

doesn't think much of the rest of the field here so you're

gonna have to go price hunting in here.

Louis size is a board a horse that's one twice in her life and

that is a daughter. Palace Malice in Minx Palace

Summerhill Stables is the ownership group here.

Tried a mile at Churchill Downs. It was just a little bit too far

and you could tell last time. I'll try 6 1/2 furlongs and an

optional claimer against winners and goes ahead and she wins that

race by 4. This seems to be about the

distance she wants to go at 7 furlongs.

So I think the 6th makes Palace is an interesting entrant here

for a horse that I really enjoyed when he was running at

Palace Malice Boy, he just you could never count him out when

he was going. So one to look for in the Oaks

is makes Palace the 6th. I'll look for the one, the 2IN

fibber and the six here to be the ones to fill out my card on

there and then the groupie doll will close the card in race 10.

This is the greatest stakes on the card.

It's the Grade 3 go in a mile. This is for Phillies and mares 3

and up 175 K in the Kitty here as well.

Hidden connections in here. Taxed is in here.

Musical mischief is in here, man Jersey Pearl Magical Loot a

bunch of horses that you've probably a bunch of Phillies and

mares that you've seen before. So of course, hidden connection

he's been running a graded company all over the place goes

up to Indiana last time out and loses to both loved and take a

stand. She wasn't the favorite boy.

She was right there. Christian Torres gets them out

here as Brian Hernandez junior has decided to stay aboard

taxed. I think tax has a much

considerably better chance here at the mile distance.

It's two for four lifetime ran in that Fleur de lis over the

two turns, going a mile in an eighth in a Grade 2 and lost to

syllabi a length and a quarter. We hold that against anybody

these days because I certainly am not.

I think tax absolutely a deserved favorite on the morning

line in the final race. Musical Mischief comes in Here

ran well in that Alaire DuPont on the Preakness weekend at

Pimlico came back, won her next race in the mud at Churchill in

an optional claimer. This is part of that Mike

McCarthy. Barn east of the.

Rockies, and that's what she is. Edgar Morales picks up the mount

again for this horse that 1 / a mile and a 16th and should

absolutely, absolutely be a contender in the closer at Ellis

on Sunday. Well, I'm Louis Aruba.

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