Los Alamitos Futurity | Jon Lindo

welcome in it is a Bob Baffert has all the starters edition for

horse racing happy hour lawyer Beau We are doing the low S

thing. We're doing the Southern

California thing this week, which means you get John Lindo.

He joins us from thoroughbred LA.

The LA is for Los Angeles. And John, how are you?

You're. Doing great.

Happy holidays and early. Happy holidays to you Louis.

How you doing? I'm doing great.

Yeah, it is. If you see the brick behind me,

you know it's below 35° out. Essentially, that is the

giveaway here in the great state of Kentucky.

Go ahead. Make us jealous.

You're wearing a sweater. But I imagine it's because it's,

like, 58° and you're just terrified of 58°.

Yeah. It dipped below 60 this morning,

so we thought the world was coming to an end.

So, you know, my wife has her winter coats out and everything

else. And then we're hunkered down now

waiting for the for the coal, coal snap to get over.

Oh man, I can't believe it. I'm, I'm very convinced, John,

that one of the reasons the California tracks show the

weather at the top is just to make people like me jealous in

other parts of the country, Right.

So like, hey, Golden Gate Fields, it's 64 and sunny and

it's January and it's like, how about you go to hell?

How about that? Yeah, That's that's.

The best Chamber of Commerce commercial we can have.

That's why before the Delmar satellite feed starts working,

they show that shot from across the street at the beach and

that, you know, people say I got to get out there and check this

out. Yeah, I shake my fist at you.

That's what I do here and here in the the cold state of of

Kentucky. But hey, you haven't been on in

a minute. I wanted to kind of pick your

brain about all things that have happened to Del Mar in the last

couple of months. Certainly includes the Breeders

Cup. You know, I know you have lots

of obligations as far as Breeders' Cup and where you've

got to be at working and those sorts of things.

But did you have a grand take away from either Friday or

Saturday or Breeders' Cup? I thought it was, you know, not

surprising that we saw form full races on the grass and not so

form full on the dirt. The three-year olds dominated

the classic. Anything take away?

Well, first of all, I thought overall, as far as the track was

very fair conditions, no, no biases on dirt, on turf.

I thought the best horses won for the most part.

There were, you know, some sad stories and you always get some

bad beats, but in general I thought it was a really well run

Breeders' Cup. That feels terrific.

Godolphin did their thing. You know, we, we, it was great

to see a few California horses get a Breeders' Cup victory,

including full Serrano after we got blank last year.

So, you know, that was important, I think, for the

Southern California horseman. We went from me watching Baffert

on Breeders' Cup Friday last year storming out of Santa Anita

to him having the top two of the juvenile in 12 months.

It was, it was a hell of a thing, John, I'll tell you.

But no, I agree with you, actually.

I I The fact that Sierra Leone won the classic with his running

style, with that short stretch, tells you everything you need to

know about that track. Went full Serrano a couple races

later, just gets out front, you know, with a, with a couple of

horses, does the stalking thing and wins his race.

So yeah, it was extraordinarily fair, especially on that dirt

horse. Absolutely.

You know, when you go too fast, they come back to you like they

did in the in the classic and and that's just how it should

be. You know, you just want fair

conditions because you're deciding champions and don't let

the track beat beat a horse, let the best horse win.

You know, we've been debating a little bit back and forth on

this show with different folks, different parts of the country,

the excitement of the horses that are coming back next year.

So I talked to, you know, Brian Hernandez Junior on Friday.

It's part of a local show we do here.

My version of Thoroughbred LA called it's the Kentucky Racing

Spotlight. I've actually got the shirt on

today. How about that?

And then you know about Thorpito, Anna being back,

Mystic Dan also coming back. I can't remember the time, last

time we had the Oaks and Derby winners coming back in the same

year. Obviously Fierceness, Sierra

Leone. Hopefully Fierceness is doing OK

with his little bit of a set back.

What's more likely in your mind, John, that we still see a ton of

three-year olds run off to the breeding shed, or that was a

blip and we're actually going to get a little bit more of what

we're seeing this year? I'm hoping we get a little bit

more of this where we do, you know, to me, it's OK.

You know, not every horse is going to be undefeated.

You don't have to be afraid of losing.

You get them dirty and you compete.

I mean, nobody was complaining with Seattle Slew, was getting

beat against horses like Xeller or you know, you get affirmed

out there fighting. It just builds a reputation that

they can withstand training over a long period of time, face the

best. And to me, those are the kind of

durable horses I want to breed to, you know, get my mirror in

the breeding shed and get to those horses that will bring you

some longevity also. Yeah, no, I the the longevity

part of it will be interesting to watch going forward because I

think there's a there's a tipping point with this, John,

especially the breeding side where, yes, you want the fastest

horse possible, what the hell good is it if you can't run,

right? I mean, if they're just so

fragile they can't even get on the track, what are you paying

for? Exactly, and in this day and age

with all the the vet protocols and everything else, there is so

much to to keep a horse from from a long career that you

really need a good sound horse to be able to do it.

The handle the field size both up at Delmar in the fall meet.

I remember talking to you after. I actually don't know what is

the earlier meet called at the end of the summer?

I really don't know. Yeah, at Delmar, we just call

that the summer meet. Perfect.

OK. The summer meet, I remember

talking to you right after that and you describe the racing is

essentially like C plus kind of B minus.

I feel like it got better with the Breeders Cup and then post

Breeders' Cup. Did you have the same sense?

Well, absolutely. And then you know, in the fall

too, there are less turf options around the country.

So we get some of those shippers coming in and and Chad Brown's

been a regular, Jonathan Thomas had a great meat coming out

here. You get Graham Motion,

Christophe Clement. So when those guys bring some of

their A listers out here, it makes for a lot of fun and and

we kind of see where the Southern California horses stack

up against those type of horses. Yeah.

And the the turf season, because I think one of the, you know,

when we talk about how circuits move forward, what they're gonna

be doing. Obviously at Kentucky, we have

our stuff essentially set with the historical racing in our 5

tracks and the different surfaces.

We're at Turfway right now doing the thing.

But in Southern California especially that that turf thing

really matters. And could you see moving forward

a even more emphasis on turf racing in Southern California?

Well, it just depends how how abused the turf courses get out

here. You know, at Santa Anita, we're

going to race for six months from from December to June and

basically every other race. I think the last couple of years

we've run more turf races than dirt races.

It's just a matter of how much you can take, which is why they

added the the flat 6 and 6 1/2 furlong shoot for the church

sprints of Santa needed to give the downhill a little break.

And if you start from different places, you don't wear it out as

much. But the weather will dictate

what we do. But we've seen a lot of the dirt

horses leave here and then we have trouble filling dirt races

in Southern California right now at certain levels.

So we are dependent on on turf racing right now in Southern

California. Yeah, and I don't see that as

any kind of negative. His name is John Linda Thurber

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But you should listen to Lindo. It's what it is.

What it is, people. All right.

I wish I had this contract, I wouldn't be here.

Yeah, no kidding. Even the deferred part of it,

yes. And so the field size is up

slightly about an extra horse every three races.

Is that a trend we can keep? We can see go from 7 seven to

maybe 8A race. I don't.

I honestly don't know. I think the winner is going to

be a little tougher for us. We're not going to get as many

ship forces coming in. We still have the grass at Santa

Anita, which is great, but we're not getting the participation

from horses coming from the East Coast just because of the purse

differentials that we that we do in the summertime.

So it's going to be difficult for us to to keep that going.

You know, Santa Anita will do what they can.

They do have a ship and win program there.

And we're also depending on the weather, you know what, in

California the rules are different.

We don't run on sloppy tracks out here and we don't train

after a day or two after the the track is sealed, we cannot train

the next day. So put you behind as far as

getting horses out there. So the weather will have a lot

to do with with what we are able to produce.

Real question just about the 'cause I didn't that's, that's

something I even I didn't know what with the logistics of that.

Is that one of, and I understand almost certainly long term it's

to card races on that surface. But is that part of the impetus

to put in a synthetic course at San Anita's that you can train

on it no matter what happens with the weather?

Yeah, that was important because when when they've they've now

made the the train tracks now to PITA.

And so that was the part when it did rain and the main track in

the morning was closed, the training track was also closed.

So now, right now the training track can be open and they have

discussed if all the races come off the turf on a race card one

day, they're thinking about running some races on that

training track during the afternoon if we have to.

Well, good, good. It's better than canceling the

cards. I'll, I'll say that for sure.

I, I, you know, with, so I'll give a, like a personal example

here in town, we had an issue with our, our Internet service

at the radio station where I work.

And we were able to do the broadcast and that kind of

stuff. And I got dozens of messages,

John, from people, Hey, I can't get the podcast what's going on?

And I would have to explain, Oh, the, but what I worry about is

if I do that for two or three days, are people going to go

find another podcast to listen to, another radio show to listen

to? And I think you can't.

I think it's better to just move to Tepita than not run your

races for a place like, especially a place like Southern

California. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

We're only running three days a week during the winter anyways.

You miss a day or two or let's say it rains on a Friday and we

can't train Saturday, you might lose the whole weekend and and

you know, that race doesn't come back for a month or two.

Now you have a horse sitting on the sideline for two months.

So it's important for the horsemen, it's important for,

for the racetrack, it's important to keep that, you

know, that whole product going. So we, again, the protocols out

here are pretty strict and, and, and I know some of the other

places around the country are catching up, but believe me,

we've kind of been the Guinea pigs for all this protocol.

We moved to Los Al for this meet.

I, I have no idea. I, I remember a couple of years

ago it made me smile. They ran the LA County meet

because it was 2020. I think in this time of year

everything got pushed, you know, all messed up and all kinds of

different changes, the minimums and the takeouts and stuff at

Los Al. What is your favorite bet at Los

Alamitos? Well, I'd like to raising the

minimum on the pick 4 to a dollar as opposed to $0.50.

I don't think the the tickets can be as much spray and pray as

you actually had handicap a little bit.

There's only one pick 5, so you have to do that in the 1st 5

races. But for me, I I think moving

that minimum to the dollar for the pick four, I will play more

pick fours at Los Al than I do otherwise.

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So there you go All right, Well, thanks for being here, John.

Let's go ahead and look at that late pick three out there at Los

Al on Saturday. Maiden special for Caliberrads

will be race 7 here going 6 furlongs.

That slight right turn. They had it before Kentucky

Downs. You understand me, people?

Los Al had it first that slight there over that 6 furlong

Sprint. This is for Cal Breads here.

You and I have talked about this before.

You apply the same sort of handicapping rules and sort of

rubric to the state bread races that you do to others.

You and I are here. I should check since I pulled

this up about an hour ago. OK, we are here doing this show

before the morning lines are out.

I actually enjoy this a bit more than other times.

How is how has the the change been with the new the new

morning lines? Have things settled in?

Have we pretty happy in Southern California?

Well, Ed Burghart, the long time track announcer at Los Alamitos,

he makes the morning lines at Los Al.

OK, OK. I didn't know if he was still.

Doing the firm, there's been no change here, and he's always

been very consistent out there, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. OK, there you go.

All right, so the state breads, they'll run in Race 7 here.

He's a 10 in here coming out of those 1000 yard races in the mix

company there at Los Al I think God Soul is really interesting

here as well coming out of Pleasanton.

Are we seeing horses translate well from Northern California

down South? Certain guys have done a good

job of making them fit. Andy Mathis, who trains Got

Soul, is one of those guys who's established himself.

He's won races at Del Mar during the summer, which is the

toughest meet in Southern California.

So he kind of knows what fits down here and and a horse like

that got Soul coming out of Pleasanton.

That's an open, open company maiden race.

So he's dropping into Cal breads here.

So it's a class drop and you know, you you I really like to

see if possible either a work over at Los Alamitos or proven

form that long stretches a lot different than what you see at

Delmar or other places and the turns a little bit tight.

So you know, it's, it's a different configuration once and

if you train there, you're used to it.

If you race there and you've shown you like it, you tend to

repeat that the, the main track is a little bit faster than you

would see at Santa Anita or Del Mar.

So they can skip over it a little bit too.

And you know, certain jockeys rider well, Thiago Pereira, you

know, who's kind of a, a, a top ten kind of guy, Del Mar, he's

the all time leading race winner at Los Alamitos.

You've got Edwin Malden out of there too, a guy that'll pop a

horse out of the gate and he'll, he'll pick his lane.

You got to go get him. So those are probably the two

main guys on a regular basis down there at Los Alamitos.

Nice. We also get Napid here in the

two hole for Antonio Garcia. I was going to ask you, it seems

to an observer like me who's just looking for the outside in

lots of dirt to turf. I think that the switching to

services happens as much in Southern California racing as

anywhere in North America, frankly.

It also seems to be a very effective angle at Los L like

you mentioned, they're able to skip over the surface.

Turf horses seem to not be encumbered very much by the low

cell surface. Am I right about that?

I agree with that. Yeah, again, I think this the

course is a little bit more like a turf course than it would be

the deep course at Santa Ania, the main track of Santa Ana

where they spin their wheels a little bit.

You can get over the top of this dirt course.

So and the other thing is if you don't run your turf horses at

Los Alamitos, you're sitting in the barn.

So I think turf forces get more opportunities at Los Alamitos.

And because of that, I think some of these guys find out,

hey, I can we can do this now. So it's it's a good opportunity

to try your turf horses over there.

You know, you're if you're not going to do it, you're just

going to sit feeding and paying bills.

Maybe get a use it like a workout and find out.

Maybe you've discovered I've got a a dirt horse too.

I think Nap's interesting in here.

I think James J Braddock, the first time starter for Steve

Nap, is really interesting in here just because of his

percentages with first time starters.

Did you land on someone on top here?

You know, I gave a little looked at glass of Jameson on the

outside, a first time starter for Pete Urton.

This is a horse by clubhouse ride on a She's a Milky Way.

He was a very precocious horse, just a real steady work tab.

You know, I saw the horses working on the synthetic at

Santa NIA. So this might be a grass horse

down the line, but from the outside, if he is a grass horse,

the dirt's not going to hit him in the face.

You can sit wide in this course and finish.

You know, he's interesting for Peter, who's not known for

firing first time out. Napa's going to run well.

But I I do think Godzal is probably the one to beat coming

out of that open race back in the Calbrits.

A horse like nap that's sitting in the two hole and I hate to go

back to these horses, but just for people that are looking

outside in that slight turn to the right before you make the

hard left turn, does that affect a horse in the one or two in a

six furlong sprinter? Do they have time to kind of and

look, I know it's Mario Gutierrez.

He's he's ridden there a billion times, I'm sure.

But you know, is there is it a little bit of an issue trying to

get off? Not not, you know, 1 hole in the

Derby bad. But you know, is it a, you know,

is there a little bit of a move out you have to make?

Yeah, it's not terrible, but if I had my as an owner, I would

rather draw outside. You're kind of forced because

there is that little elbow that you better come out of the

running if you have some speed. So nap will show speed.

He's got tactical speed and if he breaks, well, he can kind of

dictate where the race goes. In general, they have plenty of

time to move over your if you don't break, you don't

necessarily get shut up, but you don't want to get caught down in

there when you go into that turn because they kind of shuffle

from the outside back down to the inside.

Those horses on the inside take the worst of it.

The Los Al Futurity will be Race 8 starts, the late double here,

by the way, very playable, 20% take out on double S at Los Al.

If you wanted to try to hit the late double there, obviously 3

Bafferts in here, but it's a mile and a 16th on the dirt

course there. The grade 2 means $200,000 in

the Kitty. John Ugly Frank question here.

How long is this going to be a grade 2?

I mean, this was a grade one, what, four years ago?

Something like that. We've seen the field size around

this, lots of Baffert's in this race.

It's just a tough part of the calendar.

I think in between, you know, in between spots.

Does this keep the grade 2 for a while?

If it drops to a grade 3, what's the interest look like?

I, I think it's going to be a stop on the Derby trail no

matter what. But are we, are we at least

going to be able to keep that grade two kind of level?

You know, I think so, if only because of Bob Baffert.

You know, he, he's running horses in this race that go on

and do well next year in the three-year old races.

He's got a horse in here gaming that was second in the Breeders

Cup Juvenile. So you know, that's a great one

horse. This is a great two race.

He's going to be awful tough to beat in this spot.

I, you know, I think he got unlucky in the Breeders Cup

Juvenile and that the pace kind of changed when E Eastern Ave.

didn't break. So his stablemate made the lead

and that was a citizen bull. And you knew the Baffert horses

weren't going to hook up and bury each other on the front

end. So he ended up following a

stablemate and he just couldn't catch him.

But he's a horse that wants to run long.

Flavian Pratt is back out here to ride him.

He had them out before the Breeders Cup.

He rode Chancellor Mcpatrick and the Juvenile.

But Flavian Pratt is here for a reason.

This is a good horse that I know wants to run long.

He'll get better next year. And from the rail, if Pratt

wants to go and control the pace, I think he can do it.

His stablemate Getaway car #3 in the program is probably the

other main speed of the race. But once again, the Baffert

horses aren't going to kill each other off.

So I think whoever brakes better goes and the other one follows.

If you're trying to beat Bob Baffert in this race, take a

long look at #5 journalism. This is a horse that Michael

McCarthy had, and he really jumped forward going a route at

Delmar last time. He finished really well.

He's trained well out of that race and now it's a maiden, you

know, off a maiden when going into a Grade 2.

The Source has a lot of of ability.

He's a big, heavy horse. I think he'll only get bigger

and stronger and faster with racing.

So keep an eye win or lose on journalism here.

He's a horse that I think is going to make an impact in the

spring. All right, so let's play

everybody's favorite game. Bright Future.

What are my what are my terrible options here?

Sorry, my camera just turned off on me.

Future is bright if they have a chance to win this race, John

and no future if they have no chance to win the future any

obviously these horses can do whatever they want as 3 year

olds. I'm not I'm not predicting their

futures. We will start inside and work

our way out. Bob Baffert trains Gaming, who

you mentioned ran second in that Breeders' Cup Juvenile to

another Bob Baffert trainee in Citizen Bowl.

Citizen Bowl sitting atop the Kentucky Derby qualifying

standings at this point, future is bright.

No future for gaming. I have a feeling I know which

one. She sure is definitely bright

for for gaming. What what do you like about his

game? And is if you were, if you were

singling, is this it? If you're trying to make money

on the later part of the ticket, are we trying to beat him?

Is is he that horse? I, I am, I'm going to single

him. I just don't think I can beat

him in this race. I wish I could, but I think from

a pay standpoint and a class standpoint, he's kind of, he's

got a decided edge in this field.

All right, we move on to the second spot.

Mellencamp is in here a maiden so far, but does pick up Kamara

in the mount here, he and Bob Baffert actually hitting at a

very respectable 16% together their last 38 attempts.

Ran a second on debut at six furlongs.

Tried the mile last time at Del Mar and was part of the early

pace. Just couldn't hold on for this

race. Futures Brighter.

No future. No future.

Respectfully, I think he's the horse that was entered to make

this race go. You know, there was four horses.

I think Bob Baffert put this maiden in to make sure the race

went. I think that's probably right.

The SF Racing folks also have getaway car will be in the three

hole here for Bob Baffert, his main rider generally speaking in

Southern California. Juan Hernandez gets them out

here. Was aboard him in the British

Cup Juvenile. I thought frankly a good enough

4th for what this horse is last time out at Del Mar Future is

bright. No future in this one.

The future's bright for him. I'm just not sure what exactly

he's going to want to do. Even though he's by Curlin,

you'd think he'd run all day. He's not a big horse and you

know, he, he showed a lot of speech printing.

I'm not sure if he's just going to be a Miller, maybe a one term

mile kind of horse. I don't know about as the

distances get longer if it's going to help him or not.

But the future's bright. They just have to figure out

where it's going to be. Got it.

Yeah, mile and a 16th here. Just do you think it plays

because of that longer stretch? More like a mile and an eighth

for a horse like a like a 2 year old.

Yeah, I I think you, you better want a route if you're going to

get the mile and a 16th at Los Alamitos.

Yeah, I think that's a totally fair rank is just to his outside

or why not us. Doug O'Neill a three second

place finishes in five runs. No wins yet for rank.

This son of honor AP where'd you land on him?

Is future brighter? No future for this one.

For today, for for the low S fraternity, no future.

He's a maiden. He absolutely had a perfect trip

last time and blew the race. Journalism ran right by him.

You know, he's a horse that has ability.

He hasn't put it all together yet.

One day the future will be bright.

I think it might be a little dark on Saturday.

There you go. You mentioned journalism

earlier. Might be your longer shot.

Play of the Day eds line is not out yet.

What do you expect journalism to be on the morning line?

I'll go 7:00 to 2:00. I was going to say 7:00 to 2:00

or 4:00 to 1:00. I I think it features Bright on

this horse. He's, we haven't seen his best

yet. He's already shown the ability.

He's an $800,000 purchase, so obviously he looks the part.

And again, he's a big, strong, heavy horse that I think as he

gets more fit with racing, he's just going to get better.

So I if Bob Baffert gets beat in this race, and I don't think he

will, but if he does, this is probably the horse that has the

best chance to do it. Interesting breeding on him as

well with Mopatism as the mayor there.

You know, I I remember that name for sure.

I'm trying to pull up her career stats.

I just noticed that actually as part of the past performances

here, but the daughter of Uncle MO I'm trying.

To think she was trained by Doug O'Neill for for I.

Think she won all the No, she won the LA Canada.

I've forgotten that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was trying to remember what it was.

Yes, she's a great 2 winner. So yeah, that's a serious horse

on the outside if he can get it going.

And like you said it, that's the kind of horse that upsets the

apple cart for everybody. You know, whether the Pick 6 or

late double or whatever it might be is if journalism can get

there. Were you surprised to see

Umberto get the them out there after Gonzalez did such a good

job in the maiden win? No, that's, that's a positive

because Michael McCarthy kind of uses Raspoli on, on, on his, on

his a, you know, he's kind of his number one guy.

So he picks up them out here. That's that's a good sign.

Got it. The closer on Saturday is a

maiden 20. It's a mile there.

It is a mile course, by the way, at Los Altos, will start at the

finish line there. This is for open company but for

three-year olds and up. John, do you have a strong take

on the last race? Yeah, I have.

I have no clue. I would take, I would take a

stand against battle cruiser. He's had a number of chances.

He was an expensive horse that has just shown no interest in

winning at all. You know, maybe a a slight lean

to Aeromax. He's a horse that can route and

and blinkers off there I think might help him a little bit if

he just settles. I honestly don't have a strong

feeling in here though. This is one of those races I'm

I've watched tapes and I'm still confused.

So I, I, I would try to beat favorites and if you're going to

play something straight up, make sure you demand a price.

Yeah, I was going to say I think Aeromax is probably going to end

up being the favorite here, but that is a horse that adores 3rd

place and has figured out as my as my friend Dan Essel says, if

he finishes third, he gets the same food bucket he does.

If he as if he finishes first, well, he's John Lindo at John

Lindo, 60 on all the socials, Thoroughbred LAKLAA every

Saturday and Sunday, an hour on Saturday, 2 hours on Sunday.

Get in with them. As John said, if you're not

listening, you're not trying. John, we appreciate it very

much. Do you like this sort of basic

rule? And I we'll get you out of here

on this. The five horses in the low S

fraternity, it's going to be less points than you know, say

A7 horse race or something qualifying for the Kentucky

Derby. Is that a shot at Bob Bafford?

Is it an OK rule? Where's John falling?

All that? I think it's OK.

I mean, there should be an incentive and, and you know,

when you run against three or four horses, it's, it's not as

difficult to race. I, I don't have a problem with

that. The only thing that you're going

to do though, is you're going to get a guy with a lot of horses

like Bob Baffert to throw a, a horse or two or three in there

maybe that don't have any chance.

And it could just, you know, it, it could make things difficult

on the race. So there's good and bad to it.

I understand the reason for it. The incentive is to get there to

run. And believe me, we can use all

the horses you can get out here in California.

Come on and give it a shot. Well, there you go.

He's John Lindo, thoroughbred LA maybe you you feel it up for an

Eclipse Award kind of episode this year.

A little, little year in a yeah. Who can do that?

We're going to have some California guys getting getting

get some attention there. So yes.

And the most important thing is that the the jockey that used to

be here is going to win an Eclipse Award, and I'm looking

forward to that much though. Is he tied with Bailey or is he

won ahead now? Because I would, I would love it

if it's actually the fraternity that pushes him ahead.

That's why he's here. He's he's tied with Jerry Bailey

for greatest stakes wins in one year, 55.

This would set the new record. I'd love to see him do it in

Southern California. He's got Flavian Pratt's got a

lot of guys rooting for him. Future is bright.

His name is John Lynn, author Burt LA.

Thanks, John. All right, nicely, Best of luck.

Yeah, Happy holidays and Congrats.

By the way, we didn't do this. John had to.

We had to do this this morning because John's wife is a

superstar. We don't need to get into it,

but Congrats. Congrats to your lady.

That's also. It's good stuff, man.

Yeah, we've got an awards dinner tonight to go to.

So yeah, somebody's going to win an award in this house.

It's not going to be me. We know it's that happens here

too. Don't worry about it.

All right, John, I will see it, buddy.

Happy holidays. We'll catch up.

All right, good luck. All right, there you go, John

Lindo, how about that out there in Carlsbad in Southern

California helping us out here on the horse racing happy hour.

We appreciate him jumping in ahead of that Grade 2 Los

Alfraturity. We do say the future is bright

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to your house as well. There is the four stakes races

at Turfway Park on Saturday if you're interested in that.

I'll be talking to Tony Calo tomorrow.

Audra Bowenco at 1020 Danis will jump on at 11:00 and tell you

how he doesn't bet Turfway. We can do that as well, but I'll

be out there as well on Saturday.

If you are, go ahead and get a hold of the show at Horse Happy

Hour. If you would like to hang out on

Saturday up there in Florence, KY would love to see you and say

hi to you as well. But we will play the music and

we will get out of here on the December 12th edition of the

Horse Racing Happy Hour. I'm Lou Ramos, talk to you next

week.