Tampa Saturday | Sam F Davis | Ren Carothers

Very, very pleased to continue the horse racing conversation

with our friend Red Carruthers back on the program because

apparently she has no self esteem whatsoever.

Red, how are you this morning? What are you saying?

Quality content. Oh, you know, self esteem.

It's an honor. Hey, how are you?

Doing I've been great red. It's awesome to have you back.

She's at Tampa Bay Downs. You can find her at Red

Carruthers on the socials, Ren Carruthers and of course at

Tampa Bay Downs, FL on the socials for them.

Big day tomorrow. The Sam is tomorrow.

Are you joining Jason Beam and me as part of the army of

calling it the Sam? You know what, I always talk to

Davis, so I'm going to be contrarian.

I think I'm the contrarian here. I think people are going to

follow the Ren Carruthers. I don't like that at all.

All right, well, she's Ren Carruthers.

A quartet of steaks down at your place.

And it's turned into an interesting weekend, Ren, with

the four Derby preps now being pushed, You know, two of them

today, two of them tomorrow, you know, And frankly, I was very

happy to see. And I know, you know, you and I

went back and forth last month with with a cancellation, but

boy, the Davis filled up really nicely.

Nine horses. They had to be really happy down

there, huh? Yeah, of course.

I mean, I, I do think it probably runs through the

favors. It's, you know, it's still, it's

still a great field, you know, in terms of there's different

opportunities, I think in how you want to play it in the

exotics and not that, not that the favorite is unbeatable.

I I do think he looks very tough though.

There you go. All right, let's go.

Earlier on the card, though, a pair of stakes races in the

early pick 5. The Minaret is race 4.

This is the Philly and Mare Sprint on the card. 6 furlongs

on the dirt A. 100 and. 25 on the line here and Mystic Lake is

back. We've seen her at Tampa before.

2 for two on the track there, of course for Safi, Joseph Flavian

Pratt rides her for the first time.

And then of course, Miss Bucaro, who upset her last time at

Gulfstream Park in the sugar swirl.

Horse racing is the best names, doesn't it?

I mean, the dinner party, the sugar swirl, the the very one

all the great things. What who'd you land on in the

the Old Minaret? Well, you know, originally I

thought, well, Mystic Lake, she had an excuse.

She was coming in off a layoff. She, she got out there and, you

know, getting pace pressure and the horse who were inside, you

know, it looked like they made a little bit of contact as they

were heading to the top of the turn for home.

And the more I looked at was like, well, the horse she made

contact with had to check back. And that was Miss Buchero.

And Miss Buchero I've thought really had to overcome more

after she had her stride up set to then come back and and run

Mystic Lake down. I mean she cut the corner up the

inside when she got back into gear.

And again, Mystic Lake does have that excuse of it being her

first race back however, and Mystic Lake is 2 for two at

Tampa. So it sounds like I'm making

this argument for her. It does.

That being said, I I was just really impressed with Mr. Caro's

tenacity there to again, a lot of horses, once they have the

rhythm upset, it's hard for them to get back into gear.

They they get a little discouraged.

I like that she showed that grit and tenacity to come back on.

We have I rad back in to ride her.

Mystic Lake has the rail, so she should be able to get out there

on the lead. But I do like that the Miss

Buquero's who are outside and can press on the outside this

time and hopefully we don't see a little bit of a kerfuffle

again. So I went with Miss Buquero over

Mystic Lake this time because obviously Mystic Lake is going

to take a ton of action. I think most of them are going

to feel that she had that excuse of the layoff and it it she very

well could turn the tables and get her revenge.

But that's the way I see it. And then, I mean, if you're

going to play a trifecta, summer's coming from Mike

Deeney. I mean, she's run second in both

stars. She's had here this meet.

They were both at the optional 100 level and she finishes the

length and a quarter off a horse named Factor Bella in the First

off the bench. And that puts her right in the

mix with these horses. I mean, Factor Bella beat Miss

Bucchero in the Regret Stakes by three and a quarter lengths, and

she also got beat by Mystic Lake in the Liberty Bell.

So these horses fit. And Mike Deeney, you got to love

him. A Tampa regular.

What about the Lynn Rayrich train, 4 for four at Tampa?

Long gone, Sally? Is she a candidate for the

trifecta? I, you know, my thing was long

gone, Sally and she surprised me every time.

I just, this is a big step up. I mean, but then again, I

questioned her before. I mean, she won that 8:00 and

12:00. So for those who don't know what

an N2L means, it means 9 winners of two lifetime.

You're in for the claim. If you want to buy that horse

out of the race, she's in there for $8000, OK, And so she won

that race. I was like, OK, and then she

stepped right up the next class ladder ladder, taking the N3L9

winners a three lifetime. And she did that by 8 1/2

lengths. Very impressive, of course.

So then they throw her into optional competition where now

she is protected, she doesn't have to be in For sale and she

wins two more races at those optional levels.

So she's answered the call at every marker.

I just think this is a whole different animal here today.

Yeah, fair enough for. Tomorrow.

Yeah, no, you're good. I think the six for lungs will

fit her. If she is going to pull an upset

on this card, it will be at the six for long distance.

So interesting to see her tomorrow talking with Ren

Crothers down there at Tampa Bay Downs.

Hopefully your flight go okay yesterday.

I I can't imagine just the chaos of these airports lately.

It's just so bad you. Know I we flew Allegiant for the

first time because Bluegrass airport they have a direct

flight, but it only is on Thursdays down at Saint Pete's

and, and which is, you know, right down the road from from

Tampa. And they only, they only fly on

Thursdays, 2T it's two there and they only fly back on Sundays.

It was a great experience. Awesome.

Every every person with whom we dealt the whole way through from

the counter to check in to the flight crew to everybody.

They were fantastic. I really enjoyed.

It I love hearing at the Suncoast just race 5 closes the

early pick, 5 starts a middle pick four there, mile 40 on the

dirt track there. The Suncoast is a 20 point prep

for the Kentucky Oaks. We're not going to talk about

this week why the Florida Oaks is on the turf and not on the

dirt. We'll get to that at a different

time. But there's $125,000 on the line

here and we see Brad Cox bringing 1 up from from

Churchill Downs, 4th place finisher in the Golden Rod

throwing the blinkers on Life of Joy.

Is she the favorite here? No, I don't think so.

I, you know, I, I mean, she's the biggest competition to the

horse who I think will be the favorite and is the horse I

think going to win is zany. But I will say this.

So the Suncoast is a really exciting race for those who

don't know. I mean, we've seen some like

heavy hitters come through the Suncoast Lacara last year we had

power squeeze in 2024, the home team Bennett took it.

You know, Gerald Bennett took it with Dreaming of Snow in 2023

with Camacho board. And of course in 2022, Todd

Fletcher won the race with Nest and we know how goodness, I

mean, champion over 2.1 million in earnings and also Cohen by

Mike Ropoli, right? So zany same connections with

Pletcher Ropoli. She's one of two entered 4 Todd.

And I just think Zany is one of those horses where I got to give

a shout out also to John Green and Len Green.

They bred this horse DJ Sable, and they always have a mind to

bringing in that beautiful balance of stamina and

brilliance. And you have this with this

Philly. I mean, when you look at it, she

want her debut at Gallstream going 6 1/2 furlongs, took that

by 6 1/2 lengths. And when you look at the

pedigree, you're like, Oh my gosh, you would think she'd be a

little bit slow. She's no.

And then she's able to stretch that out there in the

demoiselles by 8 1/2 legs. Now, were these really tough

fields? No, but I'm not going to falter

for that because she basically was doing this on the front end

or just off before kicking on. So for me, it's it's telling me

that she herself is able to put forth these types of efforts.

And it's not really about the competition.

So yeah, I, I really like her a lot.

And you're right, the biggest competition again, is the Brad

Coxley. That is life of Joy Post 5

already Zany has 10 points to the Oaks already.

She has 12. And she, I mean, when she won

that debut by 14 minutes, record length at Horseshoe, of course,

you know, people took notice. And then she, you know, got

right on the road to the Oaks, scored the rags to riches there

at Churchill going the eight and half furlongs.

And you had the grumpy rabbit in second.

That's a good. That's a good.

Yeah. She had run third behind Percy's

Bar and Tommy Joe in the Alcibiades and then you know you

had Life of joy in the goldenrod there and she was favorite.

She had to come from double digit links.

If you had a horse up front that was let me count the way she was

just clipping along out there. She was 5 in front of the field

and you had Bello Ballerina who is the half sister.

I think it's half. I have to double check to pretty

Mischievous who won the Oaks for Brendan Walsh and she she was

sitting right back waiting to get first run at let me count

the weights when she finally backed up.

You had a tropa in there who rallied for 2nd and a tropa.

She went on to get beat just a half length in the silver bullet

day put up a 79 buyer figure for those who follow the figures and

you got life of joy coming in fresh.

So she has been in because better fields, OK, She's been in

a better company for sure. So when you look at her figures

are like, oh, her figures aren't quite as impressive as what Zany

did left out. Well, yeah, I mean, Zany's also

beating up on horses that weren't that great.

But like I said before, the fact that she's able to be forwardly

placed and putting forth those efforts and putting forth those

figures, that's why I don't care quite as much, right.

She is losing Irad to Zany, but she does get Pratt, so you know,

you don't have to hate that either.

So yeah, if you're looking, but those are your top two.

I will say that for those who want to maybe look to add some

big price underneath, I don't think the other pleasure Philly

should be ignored. Cadabra and I, I know I'm

talking a lot. Sorry to all your listeners.

No, What are you talking? This is why you have.

This is talk radio. You're supposed to talk.

No, you're good, right? This is great.

Keep going. I.

Don't know how many minutes you booked me for so I could keep.

700, keep going. All right, So I think she should

improve here, getting two turns on this track.

OK, our track got, you know, here's the thing I found our

track does. It's very kind of turfy type and

it's also very kind. And this is part of the reason

why I can't wait for a horse to start running at Belmont again,

because one of the Knights Eagles I've always loved, it's

horses who do well at Belmont over Big Sandy.

They do well at Tampa. I'm just saying.

I'm just saying. But anyway, this silly, she's

got some turpiness to her pedigree a bit, OK.

And especially. Yeah, Yeah.

And she and the pedigree also reads to me as two turns, OK.

She has shown speed in all three stars she's had.

They've all been sprints. She ran second to really good

Chilly and Lenny Lou in the slop on debut.

For those who don't know Lenny Lou, I mean, this is a really

good steak Chilly. She went on to win the Royal

Palm Juvenile. She ran third in the Queen Mary

at Royal Ascot. She won the Desert Victims.

She beat the boys in the Hollywood Beach.

Then she got beat just five lengths in the Juvenile Turf

Sprint. OK, Cadaver herself, she went on

to win a 5 furlong mean special weight at Belmont at the Big A.

That's not the same as Belmont, y'all, So I can't use my Big

Sandy connection there. However, you know she she won

that. Then she was a speed and a fade

off the layoff at Gulfstream going 6 1/2 furlongs.

The winner there. That's a nice horse.

Holland Dr. She finished fourth in the grade 3-4 gal out of

there. And then I know it was just a 35

claimer, but the 6th place runner, that was MO Hygiene.

She won a 35 claimer by three and three quarter lengths.

She put up a 72 fire figure out of that race.

So not bad from that perspective.

But the main thing with this silly is that I think she can be

better here. Second off the bench.

She's getting to stretch out on this surface.

Her mom could route on turf and synthetic.

And the family includes another notable horse in champion

Sovereign champion Cairo Consort.

So there's that turfiness that you see again in the genetics,

but there's certainly dirt in there as well.

Because this family also includes another horse that Todd

Pleasure actually trained in Awesome Maria, who was really

awesome. So I was just would not discount

her as being part of your exotics.

And she's sitting at there, you know, and I think she'll I think

unless people just see the name Pleasure and lay down money, I

think you'll still get like double digit odds on her.

So just saying. Just saying is Red Carruthers.

She's down there at Tampa Bay Downs.

Closer on the card is the Sam. She calls it the Davis.

She's wrong. It's a quarter million bucks.

It's a mile and a 16th. Ah, the dirt.

This is the Derby prep of the weekend down there at Tampa Bay.

A lot of great horses have won the Sam.

This is actually a very, very good predictor for future

success. Not necessarily Derby success,

but boy, a bunch of great horses have come out of here and we get

a bunch of horses in here that have are coming out of very good

performances in their previous races.

The favorite almost certainly will be Renegade.

That's Pletcher and Irad breaking from the 6th.

Confessional will draw the rail. What do you make of the rail

draw for a horse that has to go two turns for the first time?

Well, I mean it, it just depends.

I mean, if they have and it looks to me like he has, you

know, enough early speed to get out there and the rail itself

not be a big hitters. I will say really quickly before

I just truly tell, you know, make it look like you're to your

viewers as though I'm, you know, I love shock the Pelican, which

is race 10 real quick. Track me, I think could upset.

I think track mate could upset. There's a bit of speed.

I could see concrete glory and Silver Slugger, who, by the way,

I love silver. That horse is gutty as all get

out 1/8 of nine at Tampa Bay down.

Victor Martinez owns them. I mean, there's one Avila

strikes at like 30 something percent at Tampa.

That horse has a big shot to to win it for the home base.

But as far as like getting some good value, you know, and he's

41 in the morning line track made, I think 7:00 to 2:00 on

the morning line track made. I think the horse that could

take advantage if there's a pastel up front, some hook and

cooking, so to speak. But yeah, as far as the as far

as the the Davis. Race you're talking about now,

the Davis. Never heard of it.

Yeah, right. Yeah, I mean, why, why would we

just get a little more personal with this of the salmon, you

know, I mean, like I. Didn't call the F Keep going,

keep going. Yeah, truncate it down to the F

But let's talk about the SFB. I mean, I don't know, but yeah,

I got to. I got to recompose myself.

OK, Yeah. The thing, you know, I watched

Confessional because I kind of wanted to like him, you know, a

lot of essential quality, You know, you could maybe even throw

my essential quality did a lot of good running at Belmont, just

FYI. So you could maybe like use my

angle there a little bit with that.

But do I watch it? It is weird.

It's kind of like when you watch people, right?

And you can tell like if if another person has like a ton of

charisma or like when they walk in the room, you know?

Yeah. The Riz.

Yeah, exactly. He just looks like when I was

watching him run. ABS.

Absolutely. Of course.

Talented and he did have the blinkers on last out and I think

this was part of it. It got him a little like I the

way in which he was carrying himself was it looked a little

bit mechanical, whereas by comparison, and This is why

watching renegade. If if your viewers haven't had a

chance to watch any of his races, I highly recommend they

do so to kind of get an idea of why there's the hype.

This horse runs like not only like he understands his job, but

like he relishes his job. He like he wants to flip and rip

your heart out like it's it's it's it's really, really

impressive the way this horse gets out there.

The word that comes to mind is determinedly he does not want to

lose. And to the point where he's kind

of had to push himself out of trouble.

Like, you know, when he was running last out in New York, he

got out of the gate about 1/2 beat slow.

And then he because of that, he came out and he got into this

crunch with these other horses and he pushed his way through

that. And he still hadn't kind of

extricated himself from from having a stride a little bit

upset because there was another horse alongside him and in close

company as they were going into that first turn.

So the fact that he ran the race, he did, even though he

ended up finishing second to Paladin, who he had finished in

front of the race prior but was disqualified.

I I just thought it was such an impressive effort.

And this is a horse with a tremendous pedigree.

I mean, he's by into mischief. He's out of Grade 3 winner

Spices Nice by Hall of Famer Kerlin.

She herself is out of Grade 1 winner Dame Dorothy by

Bernardini. You know, spice is nice.

Dame Dorothy also trained by Todd, by the way, and you have a

Whitney winner there in the pedigree also with unaccounted

for. So I, I just, I just think this

horse looks like he's got the goods and he's freshened back up

And I it would be really cool because you know, Ripoli owns

this horse alongside with his breeders, Robin Lalana Lowe.

And to have bred a horse of this caliber, it's got to be that

feeling has to be one of those. I'm going to use the cliche

words, surreal. I mean this horse, I think is is

very talented. No, I I totally agree with you.

I would make the joke. Is this Ripoli's horse that will

scratch out of the Derby? I'm not going to do that, Ren.

That's not a nice thing to do. So I'm not going to do that on

this show today. That's not what we're doing

today at all. The the I can't believe there's

a buzz horse in the sand, but there is His name is the Puma

around here. We had a quarterback named Puma

pass. So this makes us very What do

you make of the Puma? He's got speed, but he's going

to have to, if he's going to want to use it.

He's going to, yeah, he's going to have Doctor Kapoor.

He's going to have Doctor Kapoor to, to tango with.

And so, you know, I, I just, I don't know, it's very rare when

you see horses, like I said with Renegade that just they, they

want to run you down. So I don't know, like, you know,

I just, I just have a feeling that it all just going to run

through him now. I, I don't fault anybody if they

want to look for better price opportunities, because how many

times do we see it where you think a horse is a lock and

they're absolutely not for whatever reason.

It's just, you know, a lot going back to talking about when

horses get into trouble or they're stride upset or this

happens or that happens, you have to a lot of them get

discouraged. They don't want to go on with it

or they, you know, they, they get mentally thrown out of the

game. So it's really rare when you see

a horse who's not only talented in terms of just the mechanics,

the physicality, but the mentality on top of it where

he's been through. Like, I mean, this horse, I feel

you could put him on a battlefield and he's going to,

he's going to, he's going to run his game, you know?

Do you know that's why they do You know why?

That's why they settled the West with donkeys instead of horses,

because donkeys would sense danger.

And horses are like, yeah, I'll go there.

I'm not kidding. That's why they did it, because

horses are like, yeah, sure, I'll go, yeah, OK.

Yeah, yeah, right. I mean, like, you know, we got

the Sergeant reckless thing going on, you know.

Oh, I mean, I don't know, like I said, I I don't, I don't like

picking Jock. I don't sure, but there's.

No, but if he's the best horse in the race, there's no reason

to miss the pick 5 because you decided to get cute about it.

I mean, right, I mean. Also, how do I not pick a horse?

Renegade. Ren Ren renegade.

I mean, come on, come. On people all right well we got

numerous texts during this segment texture first one

agreeing with your handicapping boom give me cadaver a second

off the bench like that and then texture Ren has joyful and happy

energy she's a delightful listen how about that Ren how about

that not talking too much I love.

That. We also did get a text.

We got a text from someone. Where is it?

Oh man, where did it go? And someone wrote in something

like that. Oh, there it is.

This has to be the absolute first time the sentence quote.

I'm sorry for talking so much has ever been said on this radio

station. I agree that the first I've ever

talk radio someone said I'm talking too much.

No, you're not. Her name is red car others at

red car others. And of course she's down there

at Tampa Bay. She'll be covering the Davis

sigh tomorrow. So make sure you check her out

on the track feed there. Jason beam on the calls.

They have a great operation down there.

A beautiful turf course, all the things.

Ren have a great day. Say hi to Barry Spears for me

and we'll talk to you soon. All right.

Thank you so much, Louis. You have a great one.

There you go, Renker. Others forgot to get her Super

Bowl pick. It's a bad job.

I mean, it's a bad job. I'll text her.

We'll get her in the pick that way.

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